The arrival of Matthew Sean O‘Riley (surely, nominative determinism at work), our fifth signing of the window, looks like another incredible bit of business by Celtic. Like Moussa Dembele, he signed senior forms with Fulham as a 16-year-old. Whereas Moussa experienced regular first team football in his third season there, Matt found opportunities rare, so declined a three year contract in 2020 and left the club.
That contract offered the then 19-year-old financial security. Instead, he went looking for first team football elsewhere and was without a club for six months. He spent the time training with MK Dons, whom he eventually joined in January last year.
This is a remarkable example of singlemindedness, I cannot recall anyone else in the game going without money in the hope that they better their long-term prospects. At the time he would have been asked, “What if you get injured?” It was a risk that had a significant probability of not paying off.
I love this attitude. Matt will enjoy life at Celtic, but be clear, he is here because we have made him a career enhancing offer – not a career ceiling. Like so many before him, he will want it all in the EPL one day, which is actually a good thing.
MK Dons fans and EFL analysis rave about his abilities. He has been a star there and was destined to go higher soon. Dons confirmed we relieved them of his services due to a buy-out clause (I expect the same is true of this month’s Japanese imports), reportedly £1.5m.
Michael Nicholson is playing a blinder in his first transfer window.
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The “constructive talks” line is total b*llsh*t
Fairy tale made up and pushed by Sevco’s biggest media supporter – Sly Sports.
Assiduously pushed by faithful toadies at the Bigoted Broadcasting Corporation.
Sevco sent a letter – true
Sevco picked up the phone to the SFA and spoke to someone about the fact they sent a letter – probably true
That’s it.
Thin gruel presented as venison roast for hard of thinking imbeciles who swallow anything.
They can’t spin positive transfer stories, zero ingredients in the larder.
Only option available? A slice of spin that
… the SFA pick up the phone obediently when the might Sevco call …
sprinkled with a garnish of Catholic bashing
creators, peddlers, believers?
Absolutely pathetic behaviour all round.
Snake oil for the 21st century.
Bada
Hot Smoked,
Many thanks for the replies
Hagis injury could probably cost them,30-40 million.
Ha ha ha ha ha,hee hee hee hee ho ho ho.
Stop it,my fekin Ribs won’t take it.
Great wee tribute to Meat Loaf on Beeb4, from his days in Dallas to the Rocky Horror Picture Show in LA, (Whatever Happened to Saturday Night) and on to Bat Out of Hell, a bona fide Musical if I ever did hear one.
God Rest the Big Man
RIP Michael Lee
Tav goat his pen……………….?
:))))))))))))
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Yet another one from The Minty Park Conveyor Belt…..up to £30 million now
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 21ST JANUARY 2022 9:00 PM
The “constructive talks” line is total b*llsh*t
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That – and everything else you mention – totally agree.
Fabulous post (saved me from typing the same thing)
HH :-)))))))
BGFC
Not a Joke.
There was a crazy incident in Carlow today,
Two guys brought the body of a relative into local Post Office, propped him up at the Counter & tried to collect his pension,
When the woman behind the counter started to query them, they panicked, dropped the Body & ran off.
CCV not picked for USA.
Who picked the USA squad,Joe Biden.
Great news for us.
Huns send a complaint to the US Embassy
Corkcelt- tell me that’s not true….
From the last article:
We could really blow them out of the water if we did this, not just for our games, but their games including all the retrospective red cards.
Zombie Club officially complain to SFA about Clancy. You couldn’t make it up. This is when we should be submitting the most egregious of the ‘honest mistakes’ over the years.
Coming soon from a club from the south side side of the river Clyde.
https://youtu.be/WmiXjoknHDA
Brian
Gary Hooper with Wellington Phoenix winner today, and it looks as if Moussa got the winner at Lyon ( 2 minutes to go ).
Better prediction than ‘Mystic Meg’ please listen to the lyrics (thumbs up thing)
https://youtu.be/7zzLU1ato2w
Brian
Betis, in 3rd place in race for CL qualification, go 7 points clear of Atletico Madrid in 4th. We scored 5 goals against a really good team. ( Let’s forget the goals against for now 😊 ). It’s something to build on.
Last one,
Nite all, Tony Rome, this is your shift :)
Makes me chuckle, off to ‘ma cot
A bit of Cheech and Chong and I don’t smoke.
Better prediction than ‘Mystic Meg’ please listen to the lyrics (thumbs up thing)
https://youtu.be/7zzLU1ato2w
Brian
HH
Brian
Please don’t drink and type
Brian
Unfortunately Bada, it is true.
Corkcelt- tell me that’s not true……..oh dear
cork celt
Ok it’s a tribute to Meat Loaf night…..
Was he a dead ringer?
For Ange
https://youtu.be/fJULtwL5zfY
Nite
Brian
Turkeybhoy on 21st January 2022 9:46 pm
CCV not picked for USA.
Who picked the USA squad,Joe Biden.
Great news for us.
Huns send a complaint to the US Embassy
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Is this official? or sarcasm about newco behaving like spoilt newco does?
If it is, then this is Tremendous news for Celtic. The USA must have some unbelievable CH’s is all I’m saying – if he isnae called up this time he will be a USA mainstay soon.
CCV is right up there in the Intelligent fitba players out there. Get him signed up Celtic. He is an excellent player.
It’s Friday Night.
Perhaps the best ever youtube dropped on CQN?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ZKQfp7D6U
Lubo & the Lions & so much mair.
Well, why not, Mrs BB will give me earache ‘ra ‘morra.
https://youtu.be/3XTBBRnevns
https://youtu.be/97o48Qqvz6I
https://youtu.be/yYvkICbTZIQ
Nite
HH
Brian
Bada
Fraid so
https://twitter.com/Ard_Macha/status/1484653668335038465?t=3yxjYgclCIzrYgBKUwfAtw&s=19
HH
Simple Minds on BBC 4
Loved this wan 2! (pass&move easygroove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plhcTycP9QE
The Panoramic view is on the Wall.
Incredible Celtic.
Sad news today – hearing that meat loaf died – in his honour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3sxru2xBq8&ab_channel=musicofmeatloaf
HH
LostAndFoundCSC
WEE BGFC
SFtBs @ 2:49 PM,
The definition of sectarian is there, an adjective, why do you chose to not understand it and misrepresent it?
You go off on dozens of tangents why?
Why won’t you stick to the point? It is either because you don’t understand the debate and you are flapping in the breeze.
Or you do understand the debate and know that my assertion is correct and you are throwing in dozens of red herrings to confuse.
So let me get back to the point in question rebel songs are sectarian – period.
You mention…
THEBHOYWITHMCGRAININHISSIDE @ 12:29 PM,
As if it’s some piece of incontrovertible evidence, it is not it’s IIRC anecdotal narrative with made up conclusions – it’s almost as poor as your argument.
For a start a major part of my argument is that we are not talking about things that are necessarily illegal.
I specifically made the point that Orange Walks were sectarian but weren’t illegal.
So for a start his whole premise doesn’t wash.
Yet let’s do this anyway, he states…
Donald Findlay QC took an appeal to the High Court over convictions re the singing of the Billy boys. To determine whether the singing was an example of sectarianism the Court implemented an objective 2 stage test: (btw it’s a long time since I read this so please forgive my clunky paraphrasing)
1) was the song about a relevant section of the community? – the Court found that yes the the term Fenian referred to the Catholic/ Irish Catholic section of the community; and
2) was their evidence that this section of the community was being treated as inferior- here the Court found that the words “up to out knees in Fenian blood, surrender or you’ll die” was evidence of one section of the community treating the Catholic community as inferior, telling them to do as they were told or face the consequences.
Clunky paraphrasing is the least of the problems there.
Firstly and to be fair I only had a quick search but he seems to be referring to a Court case that was referring to the famine song and not the Billy Boys.
Next point, number one, yes, as well as singing the famine song the person in question shouted “fenian bastards”, which the Court determined referred to Irish Catholics
And the court had found him guilty on racist and religious grounds.
Race and Religion and protected characteristics under the 2010 Equality Act, most people know that. Nowhere in the act does it state sectarianism.
The guy was convicted of “breach of the peace, with the racial and religious aggravations.”
Therefore, sectarianism is the belief that 1 section of the community, its customs, beliefs and pratices, is inherently inferior to that of another section of the community.
Furthermore, it is the belief that an individual from that section of the community can have their measure taken simply through membership of that section of the community, the customs they follow, the beliefs they hold and the practices they observe.
Sectarianism denies that individual their humanity. It means that where they come from will always be seen as more important that who they are. That is to say the content of their character.
No it is NOT, discrimination and prejudice is what we are talking about here and anti Protestant discrimination and prejudice will be treated in the exact same way.
EQUALITY ACT!!!
Yes you can see the phrase sectarian prejudice reported in legal cases (although no such phrase is explicit in law) but it is not because sectarianism is illegal, it is because prejudice is illegal.
What people will be charged with is Racial and Religious discrimination and prejudice.
The fact is just as abuses that are seen as sectarian prejudice, can be prosecuted under the 2010 Equality Act. The Human Rights Act may uphold “people’s enjoyment of rights and freedoms” to express their sectarian identity.
Hail Hail
Ange is being allowed to run the Club?
We have a Belter different from the rest.
Those annoyed @ those Leaving early?
The Time getting away frae Springfield Road has been ridiculous for ages now.
Me & Aidan left 3 minutes before the Final whistle so we could get back to his abode to play a lot of Pool.
We got stuck in the Springfield Road Jam that is usually associated with those that stay to the End to Praise our players,
It’s usually a 50 Minute difference.
And it was.
Chairbhoy
You mention…
THEBHOYWITHMCGRAININHISSIDE @ 12:29 PM,
As if it’s some piece of incontrovertible evidence
I presented it as another muddying factor in attempting to pin down the slippery term “Sectarianism”; I never made any other claim for it. I also mentioned your introduction of Republican and Nationalist tendencies in WoS as a further example of muddying what was an already unclear and unhelpful definition, and that point remains unaddressed.
Therefore, sectarianism is the belief that 1 section of the community, its customs, beliefs and pratices, is inherently inferior to that of another section of the community.
And my point is that this applies to sexism, racism, castes and class distinctions, political identity and even schisms within theisms too. The belief that one side of an argument is wrong, inherently carries the inference that, on this issue, they have inferior knowledge or inferior beliefs. You believe I have insufficient understanding of the issues you command, so by your definition, you may be behaving in a sectarian fashion to me. That’s how mad it becomes when taken to basics. You have disagreed with me on a number of issues so it could be seen as a pattern. (Don’t worry- that’s not how I see it; for me it is just debate and the only difference we show in this debate is that I tend to leave it to others to decide who has made the better case, rather than declare myself the winner).
Yes you can see the phrase sectarian prejudice reported in legal cases (although no such phrase is explicit in law) but it is not because sectarianism is illegal, it is because prejudice is illegal.
What people will be charged with is Racial and Religious discrimination and prejudice.
And there is where we get to the nub. The definition of sectarianism isn’t used in legal charges and the reason for that is that it is not robust enough a term with which to prosecute. Racial and Religious discrimination and prejudice provides a more solid and fertile ground.
Sectarianism is defined badly, where it is attempted at all. It is too slippery to be able to nail down what it is precisely. And it s too ambiguous to be able to provide clear cut distinctions between what is sectarian and what is merely prejudiced or bigoted or Race Hate or Religious Oneupmanship.
It may serve as a patronising term to scale bigotries, such as in asserting that WoS bigotry is some lower form of rivalry than England v Scotland or Spurs v Arsenal, or Shia vs Sunni, or Wee Frees v CoS, or Anglicans v CoE, or Non Zionist Jews v Zionist Jews, or Men v Women, or Gammons v Generation Z, or Apple v Microsoft, Republicans v Democrats, SNP v Labour or Labour v Tories.
I have said horrible things about various components of those divides. Others have spoken even more harshly, diminishing the humanity of some Tories and Republicans. But even though the views expressed there may be even more damning than anything I have said about Huns or bluenoses or Rangers fans, your definition would limit itself only to the prejudices and bigotry on display for perceived WoS matters. Everything else gets a bye or a different categorisation.
We are not prosecuting anyone for Sectarianism because we cannot prosecute for Sectarianism. it s not on the statute books because it cannot bear the weight of a precise and convincing legal definition. Some academics can invoke it as an analytical tool but I haven’t seen it produce any convincing insights into behaviour, just self exculpatory hand wringing.
I’m off to bed now and I have a family meet up tomorrow so I won’t be able to continue this debate for a while. I am not sure I have anything further to add either.
SNP arsehole tries to block a Catholic school teacher, a granny, from voting at 2019 General Election.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJn31asXMAAe9GR?format=jpg&name=900×900
What next?…..terrorising women as their coming out of mass?