Rhetorical magic from old Lumley-troubler

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Old Lumley-troubled used a classic rhetorical technique yesterday. Give your target audience lots of points to consider which you know they will agree with; build empathy, get heads nodding, fists banging on tables, then slip in the line you are trying to sell. As a piece of prose, you have to respect the statement. This guy, or his writer, has not only read the Greeks, he’s understood their importance.

If Sir David is right, Rangers issued no side contracts, all non-discretionary payments to players in connection to football were registered, if the redacted contract which appeared in The Sun in March was a piece of fiction, if the prima facie evidence presented by Duff and Phelps was an error, he and his soon to be liquidated former club have nothing to worry about.

Cicero CSC.

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  1. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    oh and forward their reply to company house for comment :o)

  2. Oh well nothing to see here then, so let’s move along,

     

     

    But why is Sir Murky, Ally and big Eck all talking about it…. IF there’s nothing to worry about, why not sit back and let the SPL make a fool of them themselves???

  3. @Obaoighill86 RT @RobbieSavage8: I’m going to glasgow next week!! please be signing for The Rangers. Twitter.

     

     

    Wtf.

     

     

    Weefra HH

  4. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Im sure these “loans”will be paid back to Minty, in Wonga type interest rates.

  5. lennon's passion on

    Newco sign Sandaza, Emilson and Kyle. Why are folk getting worked up about these 3 players they are not that good.  

  6. Was the Sun headline today:

     

     

    MURRAY DENIES CHEATING

     

     

    Or what it something subtely crafted, eg:

     

     

    WE WON ON MERIT

     

     

    curious cfc

  7. RalphWaldoEllison fights ALS on

    hamiltontim on 7 August, 2012 at 14:39 said:

     

    roy croppie

     

    Now all they need is Beattie.

     

    What’s the collective noun for a team full of crocks :-)

     

    ……..

     

     

    A crock of …oh wait it’s a family site

     

    HH

  8. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Saw the ole postie the day. Said he put his back out deliverin’ the ole side letters.

  9. NatKnow - "We welcome the paper-chase..." on

    I believe it was ole Marcus Tullius Cicero who coined the phrase “Nos sunt populus”, in his De Re Publica. Mibbe…

  10. Bloke109 on 7 August, 2012 at 14:57 said:

     

     

    lol, i should have started my contribution “according to wikpedia..” ;-)

  11. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 7 August, 2012 at 14:54 said:

     

     

    interesting. You obviously also think Arsene Wenger talks nonsense then, as he will only sign players according to certain characteristics – height, weight, speed etc. he looks for technically good players, but if they don’t fit his physical criteria, he doesn’t touch them. Apparently he has been criticised for ignoring some good players, who simply didn’t have the right physical attributes.

     

     

    Personally I would suggest that wenger knows a bit more about modern football than you do, but then again – maybe I’m wrong – maybe it is you who is the expert.

  12. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Bada Bong,

     

    they cant be signing for newclub then, I hear they are using the PDSA at cowcaddens now for medicals :oD)))

     

    savage spooted at cowcaddens is one I expect to see soon:o)

  13. NatKnow - "We welcome the paper-chase..." on

    Shouldn’t that read “What’s the collective noun for a team full of crooks”???

  14. David Murray has categorically denied the improper use of EBTs.

     

     

    He has also taken NASA to task for attempting to dupe us all with barmy notions of a spherical earth.

     

     

    Finally, he has re-emphasised that the Big Hoose must stay open, as it was formed from coal via the magic of King William of Orange and the Loch Ness Monster.

  15. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    I hear the mission to mars is an attempt to find a league they qualify to play in

  16. Antti Muurinen says HJK Helsinki are “the underdogs and all the pressure is on Celtic” …

     

     

    the ole mind games have had their day.

  17. why is kevan kyle a celtic supporter signing for them. and why has zandanza changed his mind .why are they being allowed to sign for them.

  18. Sorry Paul67, I have to disagree with the idea that there are any circumstances in any of this that remove Minty’s need to worry.

     

     

    OLDCO WIN THE TAX CASE – payments were non-contractual – Rangers therefore made non-contractual payments to players in breach of SPL rules.

     

     

    OLDCO LOSE THE TAX CASE – payments were contractual – Rangers therefore entered into a separate contract with players which was not disclosed in breach of the one contract rule and, separately, made payments to players outwith their contract in breach of the prohibition on payments outwith the registered contract.

     

     

    It seems clear that the payments to Rangers players were not detailed in their main contracts registered with the SFA/SPL. This would have led to the shortest First Tier Tribunal process in its fairly short history. It also seems fairly clear that the payments were not otherwise disclosed to the SFA/SPL as they would have been non-contractuial payments and action would presumably (stop laughing at the back) have been taken against them immediately following disclosure.

     

     

    There appears to have been an number of undisclosed payments to players by Oldco and there may also have been a number of second contracts entered into between Oldco and a number of their players. If this is indeed the case, and it is difficult to see otherwise, then there is a breach of SPL rules and the charges must proceed now.

     

     

    If allegations of cheating have no foundation then Edinburgh Castle has no foundation. If Rangers could afford to pay these players (including tax) there was no need for the EBT scheme. It follows, that they couldn’t afford those players and accordingly skipped paying tax in order to fund their employment. But for the EBT scheme Rangers would have fielded a vastly weakened team over the past 12 years.

     

     

    Craiginho

     

    The prosecution rests CSC

  19. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 7 August, 2012 at 15:23 said:

     

     

     

    I hear the mission to mars is an attempt to find a league they qualify to play in

     

     

    ————-

     

     

    Even if they don’t quality, BFDJ would still take them to win it.

  20. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    The Govan Galacticos are gatherin’ strength, and an impressive collection of MRI scans.

  21. Hamiltontim.

     

     

    Thanks for that.

     

    Just got my computer fixed,it wasn’t the computer that was broken,it my telephone line.£60 to get the imaginery problems solved on the computer,and £75 to get the house re-wired with telephone lines,problems solved .

  22. Sevco plan.

     

     

    Generate interest by signing SPL standard players.

     

     

    Conduct a share issue.

     

     

    Pocket a few million and then disappear over the horizon.

     

     

    The new owners of ‘The rangers’ then left with a club that is paying out SPL expenses whilst generating Third Division income.

     

     

    Green & Whyte sip more champagne and laugh loudly at the stupid huns…

  23. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 7 August, 2012 at 15:21 said:

     

     

    Are you serious? Trophy haul or not – the guy is paid millions of pounds to look after one of the richest football clubs in the world, and has kept his job for years….. and you are suggesting that some punter on CelticQuickNews knows more than him???

     

     

    Laughable.

  24. The Auchenhowie All Stars have approached several members of the cast of Casualty to see if they are interested in joining their medical team.

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