And release! Ronny Deila had to go and a few minutes ago, Celtic confirmed that he will leave at the end of the season. I’ve bitten my tongue on this online for months, as I once before suggested we sack a manager here (April 2008) and very quickly regretted it, but as anyone I’ve spoken to privately will tell you, it’s been clear we were on the wrong track since our Champions League exit in August.
The news broke in Norway that he was leaving a few days ago, which forced everyone’s hands to make an announcement now, but I’m glad he’s going to be with us to see the league title won. It doesn’t matter who the competition is, winning the league means lots to many of us, and we’re about to part company with only the second manager in our history not to lose a league title.
For that, he will always be welcome. It would have been absurd to sack a manager two games away from winning the league.
Ronny arrived with a plan for playing football which was cruelly exposed as inadequate in Warsaw, as Legia picked us off. That was acceptable, but the plan never changed. Neither did the results in Europe. We went down to Maribor and Malmo in the same manner.
I’d never heard of Ronny before his appointment but I backed the decision at the time, as he fitted the profile of manager I wanted: not a reject from England, someone who had overachieved with a club in Europe, a student of the game. The remit was right but the candidate was wrong. I still want someone to fit that remit, as opposed to an unemployed manager who has been through the English circuit.
While I would have made the same appointment, the board take responsibility for managerial appointments, good and bad, and they got this one wrong and deserve criticism.
You will note among the appropriate criticism that one journalist, banned from Celtic Park for nearly two years for lying, has used Celtic’s current vulnerability to swing his toe-capped boots.
This is Operation Destabilise Celtic, it’s an alternative strategy to apologising for lying about Celtic, or not lying about Celtic again. It has the hallmarks of an organised PR campaign. You know the script.
Ronny, all the very best and thanks for the Roar. Go win the league with some style.
976 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- 8
- 9
- ...
- 26
- »
It is the right decision to announce the parting of the ways with Deila now.
Unless with somehow fail to win the league ………then it will have been a disasterous decision.
TET
Maribor have done it twice in the last few seasons, once at our expense. I’ve no doubt we’ll make the group stages but I’d guess like Maribor would see themselves as a Europa team. I think realistically we are a Europa team with the chance of being the outlyer from time to time into the champions league. Hope that makes sense.
Difficult to comprehend the posts which have a go at PAUL67s take on affairs.
He has tried very hard not to blame anyone-that point is for another day,perhaps,or for anyone else to make-and pull the support together. That is an approach which I would find difficult to have put into words,but Paul has steered the ship somewhat adroitly here.
Yes,I know where I lay the blame,but it is not the time for it.
We have a league to win.
Hot off the Uruguayan press! (Googled)
Another Títere for green of Celtic Glasgow
Of all the sensation moving continents, Jose Maria Títere, to be new knighted life guard of Celtic green catholics football in Glasgow of Scotland. The fantastic opportunity to be one of the losing team coach classic old company will be yours. He will be supported by the young genius Simon Donnelly on the bench and Bobby Petta, the Dutch master of the bands. Green Catholic team will have to pay the clause of 100,000,000 pesos biscuit factory equipment. The Catholic coach will have to beat his old rival and immoral enemy, the Rangers Protestant Glasgow, to keep the generation of domination of Scottish football while winning several matches in Europe without any real budget but can not choose the right players with special abilities for such epic, irrational but with big cojones challenge.
I’ve just read the Celtic press statement. Bankier talking about honesty and integrity. He doesn’t even know what they are.
Lawwell thanking the support. Stick it where the sun doesn’t shine you hypocritical liar.
NEGANON2 on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:23 PM
Despite everything we have a chance to move on. But if we let this corrupt leeching board survive we sign Celtics death warrant.
but we’re dead already?
what are you going to do to save us all from this second death. whats your plan outside of lots of words?
I’ve not posted in a while.
Ronny has to go. However, if we get Moyes then there is every chance that the next time we play Sevco they will dominate possession.
Hearts dominated possession when we beat them 3-1 at Celtic Park recently.
Sevco play a style where the players play close together and constantly move into different zones to offer options. It makes passing easier. However, they found it very difficult to create anything against us because we limited their space in the final third.
When we won possession and attacked we looked like scoring goals, indeed, we had 33 shots to their 9 (of the 9 only 3 bothered our goalie).
Play that game 10 times and we win 9 IMO, indeed, they never got beyond us once after Erik came on.
Talk of domination only works if you put more emphasie on possession. Most people would rather see shots on goal – see Bayern demolishing Barca for example.
Moyes style is usually more direct, the players are further away from each other, therefore, every chance Sevco would dominate against a Moyes team. Indeed, Brentford under Warburton did it to bigger teams in the Championship.
If you watch the game again you see that we should have won the game on Sunday, plenty goalscoring opportunites and they had little.
Getting passed around is nothing new to us, Ajax did it, Qarabag did it….
Its not always about who has the better players, it’s about where the players are on the pitch.
Mowbray domniated possession with West Brom in the EPL but lost games.
If you want a manager to play them at their own game then look at Rodgers.
Bobby I am firmly of the view that cqn is part of the problem at cp. it too has become arrogant, complacent and lazy.
NEGANON2 on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:23 PM
where do i sign up? time for action
I am in full support in the way the board has managed our financial policy over the last decade. It is understandable given our position in world football and the league in which we play. Sometimes though, like now, that policy should be adjusted.
I am not advocating we go into multi millions of pounds of debt but we need to raise our level of ambition somewhat, specifically in regards to our next management appointment. My fear is that the board will just repeat the failure of the last two years if we do not invest adequately.
We have all now witnessed the gamble of bringing in a manager on the cheap. We have been lucky that we have had no competition in the SPL to challenge us for the last two titles, thankfully.
Now is the time for our board to raise the stakes, especially with that shower gaining promotion. If they appoint the likes of Lennon, Keane, Strachan etc it will signal that there truly is no ambition at board level. We should be in a position to invest on success due to the boards financial management this last decade. Now is the time to appoint a proven, quality manager, no more gambles, no more projects. Lets get this right this time.
NEGANON2 on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:29 PM
Bobby I am firmly of the view that cqn is part of the problem at cp. it too has become arrogant, complacent and lazy.
you aren’t part of the solution though are you?
Celtic40me I have no idea if Celtic can get out of the corruption it has participated in. And tell me, apart from supporting that corruption what have you done?
Guernica
I don’t know if the possession thing is overrated but then I’m scarred from the rope-a-dope defeats Tommy Burns used to suffer at the hands of the huns in the 90s….
Big Wavy
I suppose it does, but we are not that far short imo, all that needs to happen is get there and not waste the income it brings.
I think it’s been proven that the scatter gun approach disny work, reinvest the money on better players, aye as ever it’s a gamble, but it’s less of a gamble, it’s something that the money men should be well aware of.
HH
ANGELGABRIEL
RD
might make a statement and play some youngsters. DALGLISH did that. Virtually all disappeared without trace.
If our youth are good enough,it will be a first for a long time,and I pray it is so. But playing them out of spite is not the answer.
Might stop the boo-bhoys,mind. For ten minutes at least.
Celtic40me you really are a silly boy aren’t you. Still supporting Lawwell and attempting to justify the unjustifiable.
Your track record speaks for itself.
Bigchips
You stats ignore the quality of oppposition or lack of that each manager faced domestically and indeed the European failures and successes of each manager.
I would suggest both important factors when comparing and contrasting the managers you list in question
HH
CRC
NEGANON2 on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:30 PM
Celtic40me I have no idea if Celtic can get out of the corruption it has participated in. And tell me, apart from supporting that corruption what have you done?
not good enough. i don’t foresee the death of my club like you do. if i did i wouldn’t be sitting back waiting for someone else to act
its been ten years of the same story on here with you. all mouth and no trousers, telling us all about how awfully the club is run, how the fans are being short changed and how we must do something about it. no action from you though. not a thing.
if you’re as sure of yourself as you seem to be but you sit back and do nothing about it then you’re as much of the problem as paul is
NEGANON2 on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:33 PM
Celtic40me you really are a silly boy aren’t you. Still supporting Lawwell and attempting to justify the unjustifiable.
ad hominem attacks and nasty words. hypocrite and liar
Why release this statement now?
One can only imagine it is for no other reason but to protect Peter Lawell.
Hopefully this statement is swiftly followed by one from Sunderland confirming the signing of Lawwell.
GUERNICA on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:28 PM
I enjoyed your assessment particularly the different approaches adopted.
All sounded quite logical.
I see the board are all walking on two legs and drinking with the other farmers.
TET
Can’t argue with that. My biggest head scratcher in all of this has been the scouting department – they’d be fired in any other line of work for wasting valuable resources. Our sustainability means we must keep replenishing against a backdrop that our players will go to bigger leagues if the platform in the ECL provides it (as in Victor). Massively important to keep the assembly line going at home and through scouting.
HH
Glad to see Ronnie’s decision has led to a focus on the team instead of the managers position
It has certainly stopped all the bickering on here…
Brendan Rogers is a good shout but Malky Mackay more likely…
Worst possible outcome is JC given the top job,,,stuff of nightmares…
I’m not worrying about thems, they were rotten…any competent manager with the backing of their players will put them back in their 4 year old box
As a matter of interest has anyone checked in with Kristofer Ajer today ??
He still up for coming ?
:)
Exiled Tim
I agree with your CL point. Celtic should be able to put up better performances against teams like Maribor an Malmo. I’m not for one moment suggesting we have a right to beat teams in the CL qualifiers but the way we went out was with a whimper and that’s not a good thing. I plan to roar as loud as possible on the final day of the season, thank Ronnie D and wish him good luck.
NEGANON
I’ve posted here since early 2009. I think you were here long before me.
I was a mineshafter before the term was invented,had critiqued PL long before I posted here. And for pretty much the same reasons as I have since.
You have too,and I respect that.
Now,I’ll be perfectly honest with you here. I respect and admire your viewpoint. I largely agree with it,in fact. I know exactly where you are coming from with your criticism of the way that Celtic are being run-into the ground,IMO,in order to facilitate a false competition.
But…
There’s a wee difference,bud. I still go into every matchday with hope in my heart. And I bet you do too.
The difference is,my hope is for a Celtic victory. A Celtic victory which which will not only contradict,but vanquish,my fears.
You seem to hope for a Celtic defeat which will validate your opinion.
See? You want to be right. I want to be wrong.
Get back to supporting Celtic,mate. And don’t give me the shite that Celtic left you,I’ve heard that from apologists and propagandists for far too long.
…I am due to bump into Malky Mackay at the school gates in about 90 minutes.
That is clearly a) not a slanderous thing to say or b) reason for gossip…..
I’ll check him out for an ‘off the record’ insight……
Italiabhoy at 1.19, fair point. I wonder whether Ronny thought he wouldn’t get the job if he didn’t accept Collins and Kennedy, so acquiesced on that basis. But you’re right in that he should have been strong enough to say ‘You want me? Here are my terms.’
I just re-read Clive Woodward’s book ‘Winning’ and the chapter on him accepting the England rugby head coach job is very instructive on this point. If only Ronny had done the same he may have had a fighting chance. We’ll never know.
Farewell Ronny, I believe you joined with the best intentions and looked to take the team forward, playing in a more modern footballing style. Closer to the Celtic-way that we have had for some years.
In my view the early signs I saw of Ronny’s’ teams were encouraging. We seemed to be playing with more purpose, but alas it didn’t last. Managers in Scotland quickly worked out how to play Celtic, you failed to adapt and the rest is history.
I think going for Ronny was a bold and ambitious move by the board and I hope we look to do the same again. I wouldn’t go back to Lenny. He decided he didn’t want to be at Celtic and he choose to leave. We should respect his wishes.
I have never rated Moyes as a top manager, his teams typically win less than half the games they play. His teams can beat the lesser clubs but typically fail when they meet better opposition.
Whoever Celtic bring in I hope the fans get behind the new manager and the team listen and respond.
BMCUWP.
KT would never have had a proper chance if Izzy didn’t go backwards , if Mulgrew was fit or if Blackett wasn’t crap.
Give them game time, then judge.
Plenty from Lennoxtown playing at a good level. Supplement the 1st team squad with youth. Aim higher when buying.
One thing guaranteed. Energy & commitment
Both missing recently.
DJ67SUPPORTSTHERESIGNATIONOFLAWWELLDESMONDDEILA&THETORYWHORES
Why release this statement now?
Season ticket renewal coming up.
“Honest, we promise it will be somebody big, somebody good, honest. No kiddin’. But we need you to back us, buy your Season Books. We can’t do it without you. We are all in it together. We need you fans. The new manager needs you. You wouldn’t let him down, let the club down.”
Well said Peter. That should do it. They’ll buy that one.
Lawwell must go!
Snake Plissken
Good comprehensive post. Much of what I’ve been saying myself since Sunday.
Paul, as is very often the case, I agree with most of what you say. To me however, it has been clear since July 2014, we were. The theory at the time was admiral but Stevie Wonder could see that poor old Ronny was way out of his depth and would never make it. He was simply in awe of the place and couldn’t cope. Was never going to either.
Another one who doesent exactly exhaust the alphabet, priceless .
DECLAN THE GREAT on 20TH APRIL 2016 12:32 PM
Tony D must be pumping PL with the shite that comes out his mouth.
Feck off and do us all a favour ya geriatric old prick
EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 20TH APRIL 2016 1:12 PM
I can understand where you are coming from. BUT an honourable man like Ronny deserves to walk away with another league title to add to his CV. It would be unfair in the extreme if with 90% of the season complete, we denied him that.
Ronny has fallen upon his sword, but our highly paid bottlers that masquerade as Celtic players have it all to play for If they have any pride in themselves, never mind the club.
RD’s decision inevitable, but nevertheless not our supporters finest moment.
HH.
PS : contrary to many opinions we are still a BIG name if the coverage in the media outlets is a guide. We must now act like a BIG club.
Big Wavy
Think I’ll go to Tenants at 4 and ask wee Lenny the same. 8)
Big Wavy
Aye the scouts haven’t been at the top of their game, but the past couple of coaches have taken the blame for their shortcomings, allowed Park and Pedro to wriggle off the hook.
We will see what the next few months bring and where we are headed.
HH
……………………..
TGCW
We have no divine right to anything, but we have had a clear run the past few seasons, we should imo have taken more of an advantage of the situ, we didn’t, we are in transition now, the huns are in our league next season, the honest mistakes will ramp up, I dread to think what will happen if we don;t get this sorted.
HH