New manager of New York City, Ronny Delia, knows how to land a big job. He won a miracle Norwegian title with Stromsgodset and won two Scottish Premierships and a League Cup in his two years at Celtic. Since then, he has managed Valerenga, where he has not achieved anything notable.
He first came to Celtic’s attention as a potential assistant manager before being offered the top job. He delivered the obligatory titles at Celtic, and got unlucky in a few cup competitions, but conceding a late goal at home to Maribor, a debacle against Legia Warsaw before finally losing out to Malmo for a Champions League place cast a shadow over his time here.
There’s lots about the business model of the MLS I don’t get, but the move from having David Villa being managed by Patrick Vieira in 2018, to Ronny managing Gary Mackay-Steven in 2020 looks like a club beginning to live within its means.
New York are owned by City Football Group, the parent company of Manchester City, who Ronny knew prior to his appointment at Celtic.
Ronny is a clever man, he will be a better manager now than he was when he arrived in Glasgow in 2014. If he does well in New York, there’s a good chance he will end up somewhere in the Manchester City coaching setup.
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https://youtu.be/YUodpKVWK2E
I’m probably in a minority of one but I would sign both Cosgrove and McKenna from Aberdeen. This would give us the height and physicality we require to compete against Sevco. I would also move Kris Ajer into midfield to bulk it up. This would strengthen us in defence, midfield and attack. The two Aberdeen players know what is required to beat Sevco and McKenna gives Morelos problems. We would also be able to defend corners and set pieces better and present a greater threat to our opponents at the other end of the pitch.
The Hands – good post. On the whole we are still looking to buy players for under 4-5 million, considerably less most of the time, and yet we hope/expect these players to transform our team into euro contenders.
No manager since MoN has been allowed to go out and secure the players he really wants. There was a sound business argument as to why he was allowed to spend and also why it was not repeated.
All we can say is that we have a very good track record in signing players cheap who we can sell on for a substantial profit. Neil will go through his own BR-like frustrations when OE gets sold in the summer and he’ll get a fraction of the fee to replace him. Just like with KT. If that sale comes on the back of losing the league I think he will leave.
We have two very good players on loan at the moment who would normally be out of our reach. We have been told Ely is available for a reasonable fee and FF should be too. If we signed both of them then chances are we will be told that is most of the budget gone for next summer.
No easy answers, we know our managers work with one hand tied behind their backs. Assembling a team to win the SPL is not enough to satisfy their ambitions.
THE HANDS CANT HIT WHAT THE EYES CANT SEE on 8TH JANUARY 2020 1:57 PM
I don’t think Ronny’s era was too bad for recruitment. There were hits and misses just like any club.
Armstrong, Gordon, Denayer, Guidetti, Boyata, Christie, Simunovic, Christie & Roberts were all players with potential.
I think the problem was with the Ronny era was Ronny. Players didn’t play to their full potential. Even guys who played well like Armstrong & Tierney managed to go up a couple levels under a better coach.
RE: Boyata
The decision to turn down the bid wasn’t a mistake at the time. It was late in the window and we would have been left short.
However, it was clear 12 months before Boyata wanted to go. It was clearer 6 months before when we opted to replace him with Compper and Hendry. That was BR’s choice.
Compper was signed on Bundesliga wages.
RE: Brendan Rodgers
He sours relationships wherever he goes. That’s his modus operandi. Here’s a quote from a member of the Liverpool board after Rodgers continued to blame bad signings on the board:
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/brendan-rodgers-leicester-elite-level-coach-manager-champions-league-celtic-liverpool
At least one of his bosses at Anfield was “fighting the urge to call up and tear him a new asshole”, according to one internal missive, after fingers had been pointed at “the money men” over failed signings.
Just this season:
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/brendan-rodgers-leicester-liverpool-suggests-he-wasnt-sufficiently-backed-transfer-market
“At Liverpool of course we were very good going forward, you have to ask did I have the players to defend how we’d want to defend? I think now at Liverpool they obviously invest a lot of money to get those types of players in.”
Brendan Rodgers’ football department at Celtic oversaw a period of unprofessionalism. We chased players out our reach, botched the signings we made and started to regress.
He was a good coach and managed to improve the underperforming Ronny Deila players massively. The Dembele signing (recommended by the John Park team) was inspired. John McGinn would have been inspired and the deal didn’t collapse due to BR. He’s gone now and transfer business has picked up. Neil Lennon says he expects 1 or 2 signings this week.
Meanwhile SFA from the SFA
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 8TH JANUARY 2020 2:23 PM
Plenty on here agree with you, plenty disagree. They are both capable of playing for us in my opinion, certainly in the SPL, but would be considered by others as a couple of carthorses.
I would like to see Ajer playing in the middle too, at least to see if it is still his preferred position, but it isn’t going to happen is it? Too much time has been invested trying to convert him into a CH. He still makes mistakes that is for sure, but age is still on his side if the rough edges can be ironed out.
19 year old jeremie Frimpong:
“We were upset, but in football you win some, you lose some.
“There is nothing we can do about that now, so we have just got to look forward and keep going.
“Of course, it was very upsetting to get beaten by Rangers (sic), but we just have to look forward to the next game now.”
McNut @ 1:20
I more or less agree with all you said in that post.
MARADOMINIC on 8TH JANUARY 2020 2:08 PM
PS you can pay a decent player on PLs £2m bonus..
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£40k a week
Would be a top earner
The appointment of Ronnie
A mistake.
Obvious to some of us ……WITS and PFAyr ……..early in his tenure .
Two years to make the change.
imho Two mistakes by the Board .
The appointment .
Taking too long to make the change.
Belatedly recognised and rectified with the appointment of Brendan .
I see the feelers have been put out that Eddy is available. He won’t be sold in this window and that will be made to look like a victory. He will likely be sold in the summer though i suspect. The Board will be looking to limit the damage of lost UCL revenue etc if things to go pear shaped between now and May.
DeniaBhoy
Thanks for the reply. You’re probably right about Ajer but I’ve said before that he was never a centre back. What I like about the idea of McKenna, Cosgrove and Ajer reverting to his natural position is that we wouldn’t be outmuscled by Sevco in the way that we’ve been over the last two seasons. We’d have real height and AGGRESSION (:-)) in the team and a real threat at set pieces. Cosgrove scored 20 goals before Christmas including a Hartson/Sutton type header against us at Celtic Park. We haven’t had a striker who can do this for 15 years. Ajer would add much needed height to the midfield. He could be given much more licence to rampage forward on his mazy runs, causing chaos amongst our opponents and disrupting their press. I would love to see Cosgrove and Edouard against Sevco’s central defenders. McKenna would add a bit of the nastiness that Julien and Ajer lack at the back. To me it’s a no brainer. Buying guys from the continent at this time of the season can be a lottery. Most of us know what McKenna and Cosgrove can do for us. They would help ensure we win NIAR.
Some revisionism and spin in today’s blog. Ronny was a good guy but he should never have been anywhere near the position of Celtic Manager. It is a damning indictment of the PLC Board that he was able to bluff his way into the top job.
macjay
was it yourself who posted Bloomberg China/Europe article, would you be kind enough to do so again
thanks if possible
Link
Re : Ronny Deila
A likeable character, however was way out of his depth. It was a low risk appointment at a time when there was absolutely zero competition in the Scottish top-flight division.
It is weird how time can sometimes change perceptions.
I wish Ronny all the best, but remember all too well, struggling against likes of Molde, Legia Warsaw to name a few. And playing in Europe with top-tier closed.
He has received a lot of goodwill from the Celtic family, and fair play for that.
But time seems to have healed a lot of the scars that were inflicted during his time at the helm
I still love Ronny.
TECHWTECS
8TH JANUARY 2020 2:08 PM
I didn’t criticise performance & tactics – I addressed responsibilities.
Yes of course there are times when the CEO & board are responsible, but there are also times when football management and players must take responsibility.
We must get away from the mindset that says when things are going well it’s all about the players, manager & coaches, but when we falter, it’s down to PL & the board.
The board decides that PL is worth £x plus incentives. If he meets, or, exceeds those targets, which I’m sure will be football & financial, then he deserves his pay.
It could well be that it would take 3/4 people to replace him – he may, due to his contacts and expertise, be responsible for 40% of the club’s income. We don’t know.
What we do know is that his time in charge has been the second-most successful time, football-wise, in the club’s 132 year history. Celtic is now the most financially successful sporting entity in Scottish history.
That is quite a record. Will whoever replaces him, on a salary of say £250k/year, which is what some on here think PL should be paid, emulate his record?
Why are we putting forward players and management to speak to the SMSM during the winter break?
Celtic staff should only speak to them when contractually obliged.
David 17,
Eddy will be sold,if Eddy wants to go.No ones fault.Instead we should be complimenting PL for putting us in a position to make 21 million in profit.That’s how it works,or am I wrong?.
Not the foggiest why some come on here slaughtering PLs salary.You get paid for results.He gets paid.Is that too hard to take in?.He does not award himself the money.No time for the vitriol on here against PL on a daily basis.Even Res 12,is not down to him.He has bosses.Its not rocket science.
Before the usual suspects start rattling on,I don’t give a toss for PL,or the Board,but if you asked who is doing the best job,I would go for PL every time.Pick the correct wrongdoers.
By the way,the reason we lost a game is not down to PL.If that were true,then the last 8 years must be down to him.That’s the way it works,right.
WHITEDOGHUNCH on 8TH JANUARY 2020 3:06 PM
This one ?
DENIABHOY on 7TH JANUARY 2020 3:51 PM
Macjay1 –
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-china-business-in-europe/
Ronny Deila.
I was a never a fan .Seemed a nice man but simply not up to the job he’d somehow been appointed to .View cast in stone after the shambles away To Legia Warsaw . .So bad it felt like Artmedia . . Could easily have been 6 or 7 . A game which featured the debut for the lumbering tottie that was Berget -who, of course , went on to score for Malmo v Celtic
Of course Ronny wasn’t ready for the Celtic job . We targeted him as assistant to Lenny who downed tools and Ronny fell in to Neil’s shoes.
MCNUT on 8TH JANUARY 2020 3:10 PM
We must get away from the mindset that says when things are going well it’s all about the players, manager & coaches, but when we falter, it’s down to PL & the board
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Know where you’re coming from but a bit of flawed reasoning IMO.
As Celtic supporters we primarily support the team on the pitch and want it to succeed. In that regard the most important guy at the club is the first team manager. When things are going well, he is the one praised because he is the organiser of the team and brought many of the the players, motivates them etc.
Naturally, the manager is selected by those above him so when we falter questions are asked of those who recruited him.
But I say flawed reasoning because when things falter the manager generally gets a public lashing from the support before we turn our ire on the board! Likewise the board do get praise where it is due, for example with the excellent financial results and ambitious appointment of Rodgers, and criticism where it can possibly do more (eg. in the transfer market) to support the manager.
Lets not forget when Lenny was being appointed for the 2nd time everyone got stick from significant percentage of the support who didnt want Neil Lennon as manager again to the board for the apparent lack of a normal recruitment process for the managers position.
So all in all although we may not be privvy to all the intricate details behind the scenes the end result are there for all to see from each function in the club – the board on who they recruited in the dugout and on the pitch, and the manager for the results achieved and trophies delivered.
To reach our potential we need it all working well in tandem. With this in mind its easy to see why the huns, whilst a threat this season, will not be a threat over the medium-long term.
HH
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 8TH JANUARY 2020 3:03 PM
Plus one from me.
Can’t see any of it happening though, if we had any interest in Cosgrove it would have been leaked by now and we wouldn’t pay the asking fee for McKenna last year.
NL yesterday admitting than we may have to change our tactics and personnel for
sevco games.
Firstly , why is he saying this to the press and secondly , the majority of our fans could have
told him this after the first 20mins of the cup final.
In the throes of defeat
50 years ago this year, in 1970, I rememember the silence in the housing scheme on the night Celtic played Feyenoord in the European Cup Final. The game started well, Tommy Gemmell put us ahead, commentator Arthur Montford said it could be Lisbon all over again but it wasn’t feeling like a vintage performance and the klaxon horns were drowning out the Celtic support. They equalised, George Connelly was finally brought on but the dye seemed to have been cast and despite Evan Williams’ efforts the Cup slipped away when we lost a goal in extra time. After the final whistle we kids went out and played a game ourselves but with a heavy heart. Along with the 1973 Scottish Cup Final that defeat still stings. In both cases the feeling of “how could we have lost that game” was on such a huge scale that I was bamboozled for forty something years. But not now. First of all a diehard fan doesn’t pay much attention to opposing players, he pays his money to see his team. If they win he sings to the heavens if they lose he disses them good. So those Celtic defeats always had me looking at what Stein did wrong or mistakes from our side. Feyenoord’s disappearance from competitive European football a few years later only seemed to affirm that it had been Celtic having an off day. I looked at both Archie McPherson’s and Bob Crampsey’s books on Jock Stein to see if they had any explanations and I found that neither mentioned that Ernst Happel was the Feyenoord Manager. The man who cut his teeth at of all places Rapid Vienna was possibly the best post war manager in Europe, even managing Holland to the World Cup Final in his long illustrious career. That was why they won and he was one of the first coaches to set up his stall 4-4-2, which suits modern football. Paradoxically, knowing why we lost has now made it easier to deal with. Mystery resolved. Up until now the name Ernst Happel only meant to me the name of the stadium where Spain won the Eurocopa in 2008 with a great new style of play. Typically there is no Jock Stein stadium in Scotland and we are deprived about knowing about the legendary Austrian Ernst Happel . I also know why Celtic lost the 1973 Cup Final. Rangers had been reaching our standards in Europe in 1972 especially with their defeat of Bayern Munich so the following season they were a strong capable outfit who I now see with hindsight believed in themselves and they had a manager who had introduced the word “character” into football parlance to great effect. No Cosgrove for me by the way. Sign Odsonne on a five-year. Eddy is the only person who should be putting other centre forwards in their places. No football club in the world is greater than Celtic I humbly believe.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
che che
ST TAMS on 8TH JANUARY 2020 4:05 PM
I have always felt Neil talks too much in the press.
Timaloy…
me too.
To his credit, he’s a straight talker but imo way too open with our sleekit meeja.
Ultimately, they will crucify him.
Brings it all on himself
RIMTIMTIM
I went to the Celtic v Feyenoord Final..
The better team won .En route to the Final they beat the tournament favorites -Milan .They had a fabulously good midfield featuring the wonderful Van Hanegem..Wim Jansen played very well too..
All of the journalists that are out at the training camp I assume have been invited? Would be rude not to talk to them, no? Lenny knows the game and knows how each and every one of them will spin his words.
Although incredibly difficult for us to believe, both Celtic and TRFC must feel that it is better to be in the news than not in it.
SIEMPRE CELTIC @15:35
Can’t take issue with what you say, except, there’s always an except, without it they’d be no discussion.
You say:
“With this in mind its easy to see why the huns, whilst a threat this season, will not be a threat over the medium-long term”
If the Ibrox club win the title this season, it will be transformative for them. The phrase will be that “a sleeping giant has awoken”. They will be ‘top dog’ and certain things may happen.
The reputation as a loss-making entity will be quashed overnight. The future prospects will be ‘talked up’, with CL money front & centre of projections.
Those who have ‘pumped in’ c£50m, converted to equity over the last few years, have only two ways of getting it back – 1) drip-fed over a period of years, if the good times really are back. 2) Sell their shares, or, part of them to incoming investors. I think the latter is the most likely.
So we could be faced with a rejuvenated ‘Rangers’, taken over by investors with ‘deep pockets’.
There is definite talk and support for ‘cross-border leagues from both FIFA and UEFA – an example being a Benelux League featuring teams from Belgium & The Netherlands. In time some kind of proposal will reach Scotland, I don’t know what the set-up would be, but assume it will be a big step up on what we now have – we will leave the likes of Ross Co, ICT, Hamilton, Livingston….etc in the wake.
I’m sure that any offer would entail Celtic & ‘Rangers’ as a package.
This season is seminal for us and those down Ibrox way. ‘Rangers’ are all in this season – if they don’t win the title, they could implode, if they do win the title…..see above.
SOT
I was there too – the game still hurts – we were poor that night compared with the semis against Leeds – I’m sure big Yogi missed a one on one early in extra time.
Re talking to the meeja.
I think Martin did it well. Said a lot, told thum very little.
Just reading that Uber Celtic fan Brendan Rogers is preparing a bid of £30million for OE.
Ah well it was good to see you Eddie. PL will not knock back that kind of dough.
So we will sign a project or 2-3 million striker and get rid of Eddie, that my friends is how this transfer window will play out.
All my opinion of course.
We will be linked with loads of players but sign a couple of projects.
Still no condemnation of Sevco or Alistair J from our glorious custodians???
Nah didnae think so.
D. :)
Assorted comments lately on playing Kris Ajer in midfield.
I think Johan Mjallby was the last ‘big guy’ I saw playing central midfield in top level football. He didn’t last long there and found his métier at centre half.
The game in the middle of the pitch is played on the deck, and the core requirement is nimbleness. Sleight of foot, light of touch, quick – both reflexes and acceleration – are the first base attributes for CM in the modern game. It’s very unusual to get those attributes in a ‘big guy’, and at 6’4″ and >13 stone, Kris is a pretty big unit.
You do get tall guys in there – Busquets for instance – but only if they’ve got the prerequisite nimbleness, and that doesn’t tend to come in a frame that’s 3 stones heavier than the typical for that position.
There are always exceptions, of course, Vieira is a good example, and Wanyama closer to home, but like all exceptions, they’re pretty unusual.
If you want to ruin his career, play big Kris in the middle of the park. I’d rather he learned the game at centre half and became a class performer there.
TBB
wise words as always no Chris Sutton is he