Ronny Deila is wasting his breath when trying to warn those who throw pyrotechnics that they damage Celtic’s reputation. That fact is already well established but is irrelevant to those for whom throwing pyrotechnics is part of their football experience.
There is a clash of culture here. ‘The Man’, whether that be Uefa or the Health & Safety Executive, forbids pyrotechnics at football, but the consequences are visited on Celtic, not those who bring the pyrotechnics. No one has been brave enough to put their name to the pyrotechnic culture and I suspect no one ever will.
The last 24 hours has been a huge success for this unclaimed culture; it managed to grab some of the little space alongside the David Bowie news on Radio 5Live this morning, and many other places, adding fuel to the fire, if you pardon the pun. Someone is glowing with an “I did that” sense of achievement, although, of course, he’d never say so openly. It will continue unless the consequences are moved away from Celtic.
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Bowie and rangers ripping
maybe. H.H.
Damn predictive text
And I’ve got a blooming virus in my android phone from the ads on here
Fit like?
Ulcyr
Happy new year Curly
Paul67
Fair enough no one has admitted to it, still nothing to stop the splinter groups who didn’t do it denying it? Oh dear what am I thinking here, it wouldent suit there agenda, that’s where we are right now, they’ve been well groomed I’ll tell you that, as I said I was lambasted in here a few years ago when I said we where creating a monster and don’t get sucked in, now look where we are?
What gets me is these wee neds all huge there faces behind there scarves,for a start that’s hunnish behaviour.
If you ready believe in setting off flares,and you really believe in what you are saying and singing why hide your face?
Silly wee boys trying to be rebels,it’s embarrassing, where are there da’same,older brothers to clip them round the ear and tell them to feckin behave.
HH
Good morning from a rather cool Florida beach coffee shop.
Professional performance yesterday. I hope all visitors from across the water enjoyed their ferry trip.
That pass by Scott Allan for the third goal was tasty. Pacy, diagonal ball into space for Griff to run onto. Simply sublime.
I see the BBC and Sky are comfortable in reporting unnamed twitter sources when accusing our support of sectarian singing, yet completely ignore the chairman of Morton who complained of missiles including a bottle being thrown from the Sevco support during their recent league game. This has all the hallmarks of a black ops propaganda ploy emanating from their dark arts dept. How many of those stories had been written last week just waiting on the scheduled tweet. You have to hand it to the goon who came up with the jobby in a bag story- a cert to spread like wildfire. Remember Sevcos support threw totties at us for years, more likely to cause injury than a smoke bomb, and also associated with a distasteful taunting perspective around the Irish holocaust. I dont remember any press mention of that. Remember lads, this all suits the agenda of those trying to shape us as bigoted as the current Sevco incarnation.
PAUL67
Good article,raising a very valid point. If they think it’s fine to do it,they should be big enough to claim the credit.
On a much more important point…
We were nearing the magic number,ffs!
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from caving in?
Do you ever feel already buried deep six feet under?
Screams but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there’s still a chance for you
‘Cause there’s a spark in you?
You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 12th of July
‘Cause, baby, you’re a firework
Come on, show ’em what you’re worth
Make ’em go, “Aah, aah, aah”
As you shoot across the sky-y-y
Baby, you’re a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make ’em go, “Aah, aah, aah”
You’re gonna leave ’em all in awe, awe, awe
You don’t have to feel like a wasted space
You’re original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow
Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it’s time you’ll know
You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 12th of July
‘Cause, baby, you’re a firework
Come on, show ’em what you’re worth
Make ’em go, “Aah, aah, aah”
As you shoot across the sky-y-y
Baby, you’re a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make ’em go, “Aah, aah, aah”
You’re gonna leave ’em all in awe, awe, awe
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It’s always been inside of you, you, you
And now it’s time to let it through-ough-ough
‘Cause, baby, you’re a firework
Come on, show ’em what you’re worth
Make ’em go, “Aah, aah, aah”
As you shoot across the sky-y-y
Baby, you’re a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make ’em go, “Aah, aah, aah”
You’re gonna leave ’em all in awe, awe, awe
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Afternoon Celts
Atrocious that kids would let off smoke bombs, flares, and bangers.
Bang out of order.
Also suits some more than others.
Yeah…Lets ignore the wholesale corruption, cheating, and talk about flares.
HH
td67,
When I started going to games with my Dad in the mid 60’s, there were people back then who used to through bottles and cans, usually from high up on the terracing and usually their missiles landed on fellow Celtic fans. Were those idiots groomed back then? I don’t think so but they certainly became a monster for a period of time. Education and changes to the law changed that behaviour.
And by the way, I would in no way condone anyone taking pyros to a game, having used the real thing at work in the past.
Dusting down, literally my Bowie albums, or CD’s to be truthful to get them on my iTunes library, don’t know why they are not there already really. His early seventies stuff was brilliant, some weird stuff in the eighties but a great loss to the music industry, strange how the death of a person you never met can affect you.
The flares at the footy need to stop, full stop. I remember at Hampden a couple of years ago in the final sitting in the South Stand upper near the corner of the Celtic end nearly choking and I was far away from those smoke “bombs”, god knows what anybody nearby went through and anybody with asthma would have been in deep shit.
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ibleedgreenandwhite1
It’s not the big brothers you need look to, they are just kids, and they are being groomed, organised , they’r not supporters, it’s just a bunch of kids drunk and in a gang being ran by grown ups, and don’t kid yourself they are not kids, Celtic supporters my arse, no one steps up to claim it or refute it, then they are all in it together, unless as I say someone grows a set?
Disgraceful Policing for travelling fans who subjected to multiple stop and searches on way to Stranraer yet nothing from anyone in authority at our club mentions it. Flares smoke bombs gies peace ffs
And another thing.
If you all want to moan about fans.
The GB are like cherubs in comparison to that hun mob…..as you will see next season.
But leave the hun mob alone…..and attack our own supporters, aye right.
Dont do the hun meeja’s job for them ffs.
What about the black propaganda the Scoddish meeja are engaged in….every fecking day.
HH
Come to think of it, young MacGregors pass for Griff’s first goal was tasty an awe.
And the big Mhan took his heider well tae.
Ach, I just enjoy and celebrate every goal.
A Hun “Riptide”:
Riptide caught in a riptide
Torn between two loves the old and the new
Riptide lost in a riptide
Where will it take me what shall I do?
My heart is tossed on a sea of emotion
One love offers romance the other devotion
The new love is calling the old love is pleading
I’m caught in a riptide what shall I do?
NATKNOW 1221
The BBC are stating that it is a sectarian song – which sect are being oppressed or abused by it? Answer is – none. It’s a political song refering to an event that is about to be celebrated across Ireland and the world.
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Correct,mate. The OBaF Act has put us back a century by criminalising songs of remembrance and commemoration of days past and a history to be proud of.
All to ‘even things up’,ably abetted by an ever-eager police force who have largely lost the confidence of the public.
I live in hope that the same public will someday soon lose confidence in those who passed this disgraceful legislation in the first place. Hopefully before I head home.
JinkyRedStar –
Happy New Year right back at you too. How’s tricks? How is the golf coming on? Was Santa good to you? How was Hogmanay? Add other questions / amswers as required . . .
Just found this link, and was wondering if I could forgive this ref for any “honest mistakes”?
http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/world-s-hottest-referee-claudia-romani-poses-in-nothing-but-ac-milan-shirt-on-instagram
Lyruc
Well said Paul.
Here’s mine on the same subject. Most readers have been in agreement.
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2016/01/10/elephant-gun-at-stair-park/
There was a time if I remember correctly, and KevJ can confirm this, that the Tim Massive would police our own overly ned-like behavior.
Time to round on these roasters with bangers and sort them out ourselves.
Yesterday’s fog inducing demonstration is a reflection on where society is in general.
The root causes are too many and diverse for my ageing grey cells to compute.
No aspect of society is immune from the breakdown of respect..for others and self.
However, it appears to manifest itself as everyone being the arbitrator of their own standard of behaviour, with self appointed “rights” to which they feel entitled.
Every law has to be “challenged”, which translates to every law is there to be broken.
It can be seen even on CQN, where once there was an understood code of behaviour, that everyone respected.
Now, we have posters, who probably think they are being ultra smart and “edgy”, indulging themselves with inappropriate comments, probably, like the Flareites, as an attention seeking exercise and likewise operating under the mask of anonymity.
So, whose “fault” is all this breakdown of civility?
I don’t pretend to know the answer, but in the case of those who bring trouble to the club, it should start with monitoring the ticket allocation.
As it is now unsafe to self police, as was reported earlier, then the ultimate measure would be for the club to refuse to handle away tickets.
If home clubs wanted to sell directly to Celtic fans, then by all means; but let them also be responsible on who receives them.
Drastic? Perhaps, but better than being at the mercy of unaccountable kid on anarchists.
When’s the draw for the Scottish cup 5th round ?
Paul67,
Could it not be possible to find those who erected that screen to protect the idiots throwing the flares? If not, their intimidation is very serious.
ANTIPODEAN RED on 11TH JANUARY 2016 12:47 PM
Yes I remember those games, I was in my mid teams, where they groomed, well actually they where kinda, I would stand at the Celtic end and a fight would break out, and right away you knew who it was, certain gangs had there territory in those days, Govan Team, Cumbie, Maryhill Fleet, Garnghad, Shamrock, Carlton, from all over, and like the ones today, half of them couldent give you the starting line up,.
I’m being serious here right now this is where we are heading, but in a very different way, this is politically driven and we all know who by, so ignore it, and we are in trouble , it needs nipped in the bud, and the sooner the better.
ROBINBHOY
In the 80s,my mates and I would meet some right good Hibs fans when we played at Easter Road. Take turns about which end we stood in,enjoy the game together.
One time,Hibs section along the pitch next to the Celtic end,some eejit threw a CS canister into our part of the ground.
People were choking,crying,the whole lot,and finally ran on to the pitch to get clear of it. My mates were about to do the same till I told them to get up to the top of the terrace.
The gas settled at ground level.
Carnage,that was. The game finished about 6pm!
Idiocy is nothing new,mate. But that was an isolated incident,even in a bad time. The current trend is becoming the norm.
Whether we are more culpable than others is irrelevant,it has to be stopped.
Great result.
Pity about the flares, the genius Bowie, SFA and SPFL corruption, global warming, Isis, North Korean H bomb, Middle East conflicts, terrible weather, my golf course being closed and the first favourite getting beat at Wolverhampton.
Great pass by Scott Allan.
Eurochamps67
PerspectiveCSC
Paul 67, my friends in Celtic,
I thought we had a good game yesterday, competent, professional and winning. We even experimented slightly.
But what are we talking about———- again. Talk about own goals. We knew there would be people looking for a “tit for tat” opportunity. And boy did we oblige.
I always complement and encourage fans who make the effort to physically get off their backsides and go to watch our team. But I have read the reports, more relevant ones from our own outlets like E- tims and CQN.
I have read the posts citing hooliganism, Hunnish and intimidatory behaviour.
I would suggest that these ” supporters” are doing more to drive ordinary supporters and their families away than any board decisions. Like the supporter in Turkey mentioned in the last article. Would you want to subject your family to this. No doubt the perpetrators were on drugs or drunk. That just makes it worse.
I took my young daughter to Parkhead in the new stadium because it was safe. She was a mascot there and was recognised by many family and friends. She loved the night, until the going home part. Drunk groups of Celtic supporters on the train shouting abuse at each other and trying to fight.
Guess what she has remembered.
I think this behaviour is not the norm, although I did witness it again after a recent Euro game. Self policing can only work if the supporters are not on drink or drugs. To engage them, you must be willing to hit out and defend yourself. That is the reality.
Paul 67 states that the consequences must be moved away from Celtic. In other words it’s society’ s problem.
God help us then,as we know what Scottish society is like.
Hail, hail
Smokescreen right enough.
A timely wee incident.
A diversion for some.
But it wont mask the mismanagement of the PLC.
And their attempt at playing the old firm bigot card.
If anyone thinks a few smoke bombs and flares are bad…..Wait till next season, you are in for a huge shock.
The violence and bigotry of the old firm will be unleashed with a fury.
Wait till people are maimed, scarred, and worse…..because certain people have no fecking principles at all.
Feck the violence and bigotry eh…..as long as you can get yourself a huge bonus.
Smoke Bombs and Flares…..aye right you are.
HH
MattewL. Tonight I believe around ten past six. H.H.
EUROCHAMPS67
Still backing favourites wi THEBARCAMOLE heading back?
Year of Living Dangerously….
Paul67
Most Celtic fans know that green pyrotechnics are a smokescreen, it’s high time they stopped even if only to allow SMSM to try an equalise fan behaviour in some other way, as the fireworks prove they ran out of chances.
The green man
Your still taking away the fact that a no no was done by OUR fans ( not Chelsea supporters) to ignore it and divert it to the Huns does nothing, absolutely nothing, we all get tarred because as you say, certain people have no principles at all. And that’s the GB.
Matthewl1888
Surely you mean “what is the date of Celtic’s away trip to Tynecastle????”
;)
GREENPINATA
I’m sorry to hear about your daughters experience. Not by any means a pleasant memory.
It’s difficult,because we’re on here criticising fellow fans. The vast vast vast majority I’ve met over my 48 years of attending Parkhead and various away grounds have been magic. A delight.
But there has also been the occasional recourse to a minor scuffle due to,frankly,hunnish behaviour.
And as you say,it seems to be increasingly prevalent. I mentioned the lack of respect in a phone call to my Dad earlier,btw. Not necessarily respect for me,you,him. But for what these halfwits purport to represent.
But maybe as you say it is a wider problem. Doesn’t mean we have to cough for it.