Ronny’s Aberdeen-Salzburg dilemma

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Before the second leg against Maribor I went into detail about how important it was for Ronny Deila to rest his players.  He did, we lost to Inverness and players spent the bulk the Maribor game looking like strangers.

Since then players’ propensity to look strangers has increased, with the arrival of Stefan Scepovic, John Guidetti and Wakaso Mubarak, not to mention the anticipated return of Aleks Tonev.  Ronny has some serious decisions to make.

Does he flood the team with all this new blood, or allow them time to build match fitness and familiarity?  New blood is badly needed but so is team cohesion.

Any decision for Aberdeen will be made with the visit to Salzburg one week today in mind.  On paper, away to the top seed is our most difficult Europa League game, so we have to be ready.

My expectation is that three, if not all four, of the above will feature heavily on Saturday, which will inform Ronny ahead of his choices for Europe.

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  1. Phylis

     

     

    She was the leader of the tory party and had been since 1975 when she took over from Heath (who actually backed devolution in 1997 and did back devolution in 1979). maggie the destroyer allowed Alec douglas Home to go forthwith and multiply teh Nae sayers with promises of better proposals thatn that what devolution would offer. those better proposals were not detailed nor explained nor even formulated.

     

     

    MWD says AYE

  2. I know Stefan Scepovic is going to wear the number 12. Anyone know if he will have Stefan on the back of the jersey?

  3. can anyone tell me what lord livingstone,brian wilson and ian

     

    bankier bring to our club as directors.

     

    are they there because it suits dermot desmonds business

     

    interests as it did with john reid

     

    we laugh at the rankers but we are in the same boat if we

     

    wanted to change the board.

     

    our hands are tied.

     

    it does not matter how many of us ordinary supporters

     

    tick our little boxes at the agm it makes no difference

  4. moonbeams wd. – However Margaret thatcher’s party, The conservative party, did promise a new ‘better’ bill (sounds something like what david, nick and Ed are offerring) via a formal Conservative party leader going by the name of Alec Douglas-Home.

     

     

    That was about a decade prior to the 1979 referendum and before Mrs T. became Leader of the Opposition.

     

     

    Before the referendum Mrs Thatcher made her party’s position very clear – they did not support any form of devolution. Maggie stands accused of many things, but not being straightforward about her goals is a new one on me.

     

     

    This is what she said prior to the 1979 referendum:

     

     

    http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/103956

     

     

    A constitutional change on which there can be no going back; a change which may wreck the United Kingdom and will certainly alter Scotland’s position within it—such a matter has to be above “party”.

     

     

    That is why I ask that the Scottish people make full use of this chance to express their views on their future.

     

     

    They must vote freely, sinking their political differences, without ulterior motives and without care for party advantage either way.Speaking, then, not just as a party leader but as a native of Britain I should wish to say this to Scotland.

     

     

    Please let us stick together. We need each other now as much as we ever did.

     

    The United Kingdom as a whole is, and always will be, greater than the sum of its parts. Divided we are diminished, both individually and collectively.

     

     

    We have been through a bad patch as a country, and we are still not out of it.

     

     

    I refer not only to our economic difficulties. Look outwards. Look at the Far East, to the Middle-East today, to anywhere where Britain once held sway. And reflect that the world of 1979 is as dangerous and uncertain a place as ever in which to walk alone.

     

     

    Now we have been assured by those who brought this Act before Parliament and manoeuvred it through the House of Commons that it offers a stable and durable settlement.

     

     

    But it would not be stable and it could not endure.

     

     

    Seems she was right. (thumbsup)

  5. Horse tip lads , SORRY to interrupt but I have been told by my often reliable source to bet seal of approval in the 2.40 Doncaster currently standing at 7/2 fav , we’ll back to lurking for me, . PS would like to thank you all for the independence debate I have now made my mind up & it’s a big YES for me

  6. Pfayr.

     

     

    It’s an early start mind.

     

     

    Sare heid csc

     

     

     

     

    Livibhoy and mwd,

     

     

    I’d sack the pairra ye for all the time spent on here;)

  7. My understanding…

     

     

    Ashley and Newcastle…

     

     

    Been trying to sell since 2008!

     

     

    3 years of profit but outstanding debt to Ashley of £129m.

     

     

    Onerous commercial contracts in favour of Ashley businesses.

     

     

    Can you imagine the queue of potential buyers????

     

     

    (PS…Ashley has stated that he wishes he’d never involved himself in football club ownership!)

  8. Funny thing

     

     

    I read the Mo Mowlam anecdote as being indicative of the depths to which politicians would sink to frighten people into voting for a particular party or cause.

     

     

    Can’t think of any such modern day examples.

  9. Geordie Munro

     

     

    You would think so but like I said earlier a lot of my time between 9-5 is spent preparing for test and projects are pulled. It’s a frustrating environment which would benefit a change of working hours. I’m on my summer leave just now tho;-)

     

     

    LB

  10. Tallybhoy

     

     

    BBC’s Gossip Column sayin he was MOTM against Italy?

     

     

    ……although they are quoting the Scottish Sun

  11. Philvisreturns .

     

     

    Ffs get aff the glue , Vidar Riseth was a class one diddy, couldn’t trap a bag o cement! !!

  12. moonbeams wd. – the promise of a new bill to remove the need for devolution was in the lead up to the 1979 general election for UK.

     

     

    You mean this, from the Conservative manifesto in 1979?

     

     

    We are committed to discussions about the future government of Scotland, and have put forward proposals for improved parliamentary control of administration in Wales.

     

     

    Hmmmm. (thumbsup)

     

     

    squire danaher – Yes. Can’t think of any politicians dishonestly posing as saviours of the NHS these days. :) (thumbsup)

  13. Hammond says UK will not be taking part in any airstrikes on Syria…………..well , not until after next Thursday……

  14. Alex Salmond international media conference speech

     

    Thu, 11/09/2014 – 11:45

     

    Alex Salmond speech to International Press Event – Thursday 11 September 2014

     

    CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY

     

     

    I want to start by welcoming each of you here this morning.

     

     

    It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to speak to an international media audience representing countries from all around the world.

     

     

    Since 1945, 142 countries have chosen independence.

     

     

    Not one has ever asked to give it up.

     

     

    It is therefore a great pleasure to meet so many journalists who instinctively understand the logic of independence.

     

     

    Scotland is on the cusp of making history. The eyes of the world are upon us.

     

     

    And what the world is seeing is an energized, articulate and peaceful debate.

     

     

    Scotland will vote Yes.

     

     

    Last minute, cobbled together promises from the No campaign which unravel on the slightest scrutiny won’t fool anyone- and neither will the blatant bullying and intimidation of Westminster government.

     

     

    A No campaign is in decline.

     

     

    In contrast, a Yes vote is the opportunity of a lifetime, an opportunity to build a fairer and more prosperous country.

     

     

    Today marks a moment in Scotland’s Home Rule journey.

     

     

    Today is exactly the 17th anniversary of Scotland voting Yes to restoring a Scottish Parliament in 1997.

     

     

    You have just heard from Canon Kenyon Wright – a man known to many as the ‘architect of devolution’ and hugely respected across the political divide.

     

     

    He was central in reclaiming a measure of home rule for Scotland in 1997. We all called him the Grand Canon.

     

     

    He, like so many others, is now convinced of the urgent need for Scotland to complete its journey to independence by voting ‘Yes’.

     

     

    In the last 17 years, Scotland has become a better country – removing tuition fees, abolishing care costs for the elderly, making prescriptions free, creating jobs and opportunities and defending the National Health Service.

     

     

    In creating a celebration of democracy it is Scotland’s people, Scotland’s communities – not the politicians – who are re-invigorating and transforming the entire political process.

     

     

    The participation, the enthusiasm, the meetings, the discussions, the debate has been remarkable.

     

     

    It has been a process of national empowerment.

     

     

    As a country we have re-discovered national self-confidence.

     

     

    As a nation, we are finding our voice.

     

     

    Our message to the people of Scotland is this – for the first time in Scottish history, on the 18th September we, the people, hold our destiny in our own hands.

     

     

    We shall not wake up on the 19th of September having given it away.

     

     

    We shall wake up knowing that we did the right thing.

     

     

    Wake up to a lifetime of feeling confident in ourselves and in our country.

     

     

    We have no intention of allowing the Westminster elite tell us we are not capable of making a success of this wealthy country.

     

     

    A country with a higher GDP per head than the UK, France and Japan.

     

     

    With the strongest of foundations on which to build a better, fairer society.

     

     

    More top universities per head than any other country.

     

     

    A world-class food and drink industry, advanced manufacturing, creative industries and extraordinary energy reserves and potential.

     

     

    That is an extraordinary starting point for any new nation.

     

     

    But what matters most is what we do with that wealth – how we share it, how we invest it, how we use it.

     

     

    The issue as we enter the last week of this campaign is not therefore whether Scotland is wealthy enough to be an independent country.

     

     

    The great issue is why so many people don’t benefit from that wealth.

     

     

    And the most fundamental point of all is this:

     

     

    A Yes vote next Thursday is not the end of something. It is the beginning of something special.

     

     

    We will succeed not only because of our wealth of natural resources – as important they are.

     

     

    We will succeed only if we maintain and build on the energy, the participation and the involvement we have seen in this campaign.

     

     

    I want to use the energy and the confidence we feel to carry Scotland to greater heights in the months and years beyond September 18.

     

     

    The sense of purpose coursing through Scottish life is unmistakable.

     

     

    For the first time ever, Scots believe that this can happen and will happen.

     

     

    With that sense of belief, of confidence, of opportunity – we can get to work making our lives and those of our families immeasurably better.

     

     

    We shall not go back to accepting a country where a million live in poverty.

     

     

    To a country where people feel their views don’t count and they get a Government they didn’t elect.

     

     

    Where we spend billions on Trident but say we don’t have enough for childcare.

     

     

    Where the massive potential and talent of so many Scots is wasted.

     

     

    Where decisions are made remotely and against the settled will of the Scottish people.

     

     

    We’re not going back to all that.

     

     

    For many people, the answer to the question of whether Scotland should be an independent country has often been “Yes, but.”

     

     

    Now that we have the opportunity of a lifetime to put Scotland’s future in Scotland’s hands, more and more people are no longer saying “Yes, but”.

     

     

    They’re saying, “Yes because.”

     

     

    Yes because we will have the job-creating powers we need to build a more prosperous country.

     

     

    Yes because we will have control over our budget to protect our NHS.

     

     

    Yes because we must use all the talents of the people of Scotland.

     

     

    A Yes vote is about building something better.

     

     

    It is the growing acceptance across every community in Scotland that no-one – absolutely no-one – is better placed to govern Scotland than the people who live and work here.

     

     

    No one cares more.

     

     

    No one understands the needs and aspirations of the people more.

     

     

    No-one will ever do a better job.

     

     

    And once that central proposition is accepted, a Yes vote becomes irresistible.

     

     

    Not because we will inherit the day after independence a land of milk and honey.

     

     

    Not because Scotland has a special or privileged position in the world.

     

     

    And not because we are better than anyone else – but because we are no worse.

     

     

    Because there will be big challenges.

     

     

    What we win on the 18th September is the chance to do better, to take control, to make our own mistakes and mould our own successes.

     

     

    The reason Scotland will vote Yes is because the majority of Scots look around and know that we can do better.

     

     

    The first thing Scots will gain is a guarantee that the UKIP/Tory referendum which threatens to take us out of the EU – the greatest single risk to Scottish jobs and prosperity – will be off the table.

     

     

    I believe – unlike Mr Cameron – in the rights of citizens to enjoy the protection of things like the European Convention of Human Rights. That is guaranteed in an independent Scotland.

     

     

    I believe in the rights and protections given to workers across Scotland by the European Union, in the need for collective action on climate change and in the solidarity of nations standing together in the face of conflict.

     

     

    I believe – unlike Mr Cameron – in positive engagement with the rest of the Europe rather than public schoolboy politics and island isolationism.

     

     

    With independence the EU therefore gains a positive force for international co-operation.

     

     

    Because this referendum is simply the start of a new chapter for Scotland in the world.

     

     

    A nation of 5 million Scots doesn’t need the largest and most expensive arsenal of nuclear weapons in Europe in order to be influential – but it does need a government more committed to our global partners, to the United Nations, to fighting poverty and disease abroad with the same passion we will fight it at home.

     

     

    Scotland is ready to join the family of independent nations on equal terms.

     

     

    Ladies and gentlemen,

     

     

    This campaign isn’t about the SNP, the Tory Party, me, David Cameron or any individual – it’s about who we trust must to govern our country.

     

     

    The last two weeks have been the most momentous in Scottish political history.

     

     

    The Yes vote has multiplied, momentum on the ground has crystallised into commitment from undecided voters and many of those who previously were No, have realized the historic opportunity before us and have changed.

     

     

    The story of the last weeks – as Anum Qaisar explained earlier – has been of many thousands of traditional Labour supporters realizing that a Yes vote is their best prospect of building a socially just Scotland

     

     

    Of families deciding that the future of their children is best secured in an independent country where we can make our own choices for childcare, jobs and welfare.

     

     

    Of pensioners recognizing their pensions are totally secure with independence and knowing they are free to gift to their grandchildren the greatest legacy of all – opportunity.

     

     

    And when the No campaign was asked for a vision of a future for Scotland what did they offer?

     

     

    No more than a rehash of policies announced months ago, ignored by the voters then and now as meaningless and incoherent.

     

     

    No guarantee of any specific powers to be devolved – simply a timetable to have a consultation.

     

     

    The truth is we have been here before. In 1979 Scotland was told ‘Vote No’ and more powers would be devolved.

     

     

    Instead we got Margaret Thatcher, deindustrialisation and the Poll Tax – the most unfair taxation system of all time.

     

     

    Scotland will not be conned again- this time we all know that only a Yes vote delivers real opportunity.

     

     

    I am convinced that the vision of a positive future for Scotland which has been taken to all parts of the country in energising conversation by the most impressive grassroots campaign this country has ever seen, it is winning the hearts and minds of the people.

     

     

    We have approached this campaign with humility and by respecting the will of the people.

     

     

    The will of the people a week from today will be to restore to this rich, ancient nation the opportunity once again to take its responsible place in the community of nations.

     

     

    This is it – the moment to believe, the moment to win.

  15. moonbeams wd. – thanks, but I’m correct in every possible sense. There was no promise from the Tories during the 1979 referendum. They said they were agin devolution and they meant it. (thumbsup)

     

     

    el maestro – he trapped Claudio Reyna. (thumbsup)

  16. monteblanco

     

     

    “Some people trivialize it saying it’s only a daft wee cross in a daft wee box. But when you walk to the polling station you will be carrying a heavy load all the way to the polling station.

     

    It is the burden of hope as opposed to those who carry the burden of fear. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong?

     

     

    I am with you mate, I chose hope every time.”

     

     

     

     

    Really??

     

     

    Who trivialised it as daft?

     

     

    That’s right- no one did, but it reads better if you add it in.

     

     

    What was being “trivialised” (ridiculed would have been the word I chose) was the tendency to self praise that portrays, to itself, the Yes vote as Brave, Proud, Patriotic, Community Minded, Thinking of our Children’s future, etc; etc;

     

     

    And adds to that either an explicit statement of condemnation or an implicit suggestion of a No vote as feart, aligned with the OO, Siding with the Tories and huns and big business, Status Quo-ites, and insufficiently qualified to be good Tims, Scots or , even Irish.

     

     

    This kind of Braveheart meets Brigadoon rhetoric does a grave injustice to grown up thinking. It certainly does a grave dis-service to fellow Celts. You may imagine that, amongst you and yours, there is high unanimity on the benefits of Independence and that you have had to face up to relentless propaganda about job losses and other worrying trends.

     

     

    But you’ve not had to face up to being called a Hun, an Orangeman, or a Paisleyite. But some of the Brave boys on your side have been dishing that out. I don’t consider myself brave to face that down anymore than I would to face down name-calling anywhere. You just laugh at it and talk with the grown-ups.

     

     

    Self praise is no praise at all. The trouble with claiming all the virtues for your side is that some of us have met some of you. You are as much a collection of ordinary and extra-ordinary people as exist anywhere. You have just lost a wee bit of perspective due to election fever.

     

     

    God, this is tiresome.

  17. See all these really long posts and re-posts of articles about the referendum the’ve worn out the scroller thingy on my mouse.

     

     

    So what’s the protocol for expenses here? Do I just get the new mouse and submit a form to Paul67 for sign off?

     

     

    Off to Pets at Home for a new one…

  18. Davidopoulos

     

    14:13 on

     

    11 September, 2014

     

     

    You need a chit signed by SydneyTim and Kojo. In ink, no photocopies.

  19. Vespacide

     

     

    14:09 on 11 September, 2014

     

     

    ‘Alex Salmond international media conference speech’

     

     

     

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    Who?

  20. I was one of those who thought it was a good move to rest the team and allow them to focus on training and preperation before the Maribor match after pumping Dundee Utd. It became apparent though that the team was not comfortable or fully blended so for me the more matches together the better.

     

     

    The international break has maybe allowed Deila to tweak his plans slightly and get the players on the training pitch (those who aren’t away on international duty – how many is that?) but for me the lack of games isn’t helpful in terms of European preparation.

  21. I once watched Vidar Riseth play a wild cross field pass across the pitch at McDairmid that McAnespie headered into the net. I would have hooked him and sent him on his way there and then!

     

     

    LB

  22. weeminger

     

     

    14:15 on 11 September, 2014

     

     

    Davidopoulos

     

    14:13 on

     

    11 September, 2014

     

     

    You need a chit signed by SydneyTim and Kojo. In ink, no photocopies.

     

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    Bloody bureaucracy in this place…

     

     

    Ah well, suppose it keeps bums on seats…

  23. Bada Bing!!

     

     

    13:39 on 11 September, 2014

     

     

    Robert Young, Primal Scream RIP

     

     

     

    Sad news. RIP Dungo

  24. margaret mcgill

     

     

    01:35 on 11 September, 2014

     

     

    Auldheid

     

     

    01:28 on 11 September, 2014

     

    Trust me. I know.

     

    ———-

     

     

    If you know why we’re you asking questions and making accusations of waffledom?

     

     

    I mean if you are privy to some piece of information we are not why not share it?

     

     

    Since you are so keen for information why not reciprocate and tell us why we should trust you?

     

     

    On the other hand if you are reading into what you understand to be going on and have concluded from that Celtic are simply playing a delaying game here is a shokeroonee for you, the idea never crossed our mind. Aye right! It’s been a constant companion through the process.

     

     

    There is a very significant barrier to completion, one that has slowed down the process from the beginning and it still remains.

     

     

    But as I said there is some hard work going on to get around it and if it pays off then nothing can stop the truth coming out.

     

     

    In fact I would say the consequences of that truth would more help make Scottish football better in all respects, socially, morally and fair competitively that the PLC would welcome it.

     

     

    Unless you know they are all villains of course.

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