Rosenborg went five years without winning the Norwegian title before Kare Ingebrigtsen turned things around. Under him, they were champions the last three seasons – back on the pertch. A mere two points off the pace, having scraped a win against Valur, he was sacked, just six days before his former team face Celtic.
It seems harsh. This is a club burdened by their Champions League history. Until 2004, when money replaced meritocracy, they held the record for the number of consecutive appearances in the group stage (8). But they never turned the lights off. They see clubs from other small nations reach the group stage of the Europa League and, to a lesser extent, the Champions League, and know they could do the same.
If they thought Ingebrigtsen’s team would have beaten Celtic he would still be in a job. Instead, they have thrown the dice in the hope of giving players an edge. The new interim boss’s only managerial gig in the last seven years was six weeks in charge of the Aruba national team. Since then he’s kicked around as a youth coach and been an assistant in Dubai. It’s a strange one.
Sacking a manager often leads to a short-term boost in results, which is all that is required for European qualification. Expect this tie to be competitive. That’s good, I prefer Celtic to play in games with a visible edge, than against unknowns with fire in their belly. Cool heads will be needed. On that subject, we’ll discuss Jozo later.
Newco, having successfully argued the SFA should refer the matter of Rangers’ eligibility for Uefa competition in 2011 to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), now request the SFA do not take the matter to CAS. It’s a kind of Newco logic; any victory in a storm.
They argue this procedural guidance establishes the complaint has no merit, whereas the SFA Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal did not address the complaint, only their competency to examine it.
The Judicial Panel ruled “the Notice of Complaint must be determined by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.” The word “must” has been overlooked by Newco. The SFA must act accordingly. Taking the whole thing to Lausanne will make sure we don’t need to go through another round of “Who are these people” type witch-hunts. I know what you are thinking, Dave King has been making friend with the SFA on a weekly basis for months now, surely they will do his bidding.
I’m not sure Dave’s that clever.
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MEA CULPA
I understand your reasoning. As many on here know,I have a considerable number of Hunnish and loyalist friends. Love them to bits,smashing people.
I’ve tried for years to explain,ah f…it,you gimme the silver bullets,naw. A bullet’s no use,its education they need.
Worked well so far.,eh?
Maybe a bullet up thur arse unless they go to school?
Feel sorry for Res12 guys who were strung along why was it left to fans to bring this up? celtic and others were robbed of millions of pounds
MARADOMINIC
Said similar to my kid sis about an hour ago.
ps we struggled to qualify for CL last year and are going into the games with no improved squad a ctually weaker due to Roberts and Armstrong gone and Lustig and Botayta at WC… These were known about and yet no one signed. And Boyata is mince anyway./.Should have been looking to improve squad
Starry
Far fetched perhaps
But less so than the story that our Board knew nothing and are keeping their powder dry
ThomtheTim
Thanks for the update.
Hard to understand why a Cork man who died so tragically young leaving a widow and children cannot motivate the HQ Committee into a conference call to do what needs to be done.
If the GAA stands for anything it has to be for the welfare of the community – all of it.
HH
At face value, as long as there is a huge demand for tickets for any game against Sevco, also for cup ties at Hampden, Celtic would be within their rights to think that the people who matter, i.e. the match going Celtic supporter is happy with the status quo.
As in any business, and football needs to be a business to survive, the only way to really gauge support for your product is the level of customer support.
Therefore, instead of a blanket boycott of Celtic, why not a refusal to buy tickets or attend a match, which supports the efforts of Sevco or the SFA?
ROBINBHOY
That many had the resolve of your family and friends…
marspapa on 20th July 2018 1:58 pm
Did Morgan get injured in training or was this in relation to an ongoing issue from St Mirren days, do you know?
HH
MARADOMINIC why bother about transfers if not interested in scottosh game, go figure.
Small minority pay 49 pounds for sevco game rest of us have it on our season books.
The board will always look at protecting the business as they see it, not rocket science its common sense.
For those that actually support celtic lets see how The next 6 weeks go before panicing about players in and out and europe.
On a side note, we did not know comperr would get injuried, we did not know boyata would be going to world cup and we did not know jozo was gonna be a f@#king dafty this weeks.
We may or may not get into c/l. I like to see us up against the best, i dont expect it.
HH
CONNAIRE12 @ 2.20 .
Yesterday’s Stage featured ” fans ” throwing liquids and firecrackers while others lit flares and smoke bombs . The competitors were cycling up a multiple hairpin mountain through coloured smoke . . Such stuff has to be stopped !
TOUR DE FRANCE 2018
https://youtu.be/N9u9NH9aZJ0
JOHN51 on 20TH JULY 2018 2:41 PM
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“If the GAA stands for anything it has to be for the welfare of the community – all of it.”
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Unfortunately, I don’t believe that is necessarily the case.
As an “outsider” or blow in, I am not steeped in the GAA tradition, therefore my views may be skewed.
At local level, devotees put in the mileage in working for their clubs and do good work in providing sporting activities for the youth.
Along with grants from Headquarters, they are tireless in fund raising in the community, often at the expense of other parish activities.
The association is in with the bricks since the foundation of the State.
I believe that they were a member of the Trinity which had virtually total control of the populace.
The other two were the Catholic Church and Fianna Fail. Both of which have seen their authority reduced to rubble.
The GAA is Last Man Standing.
Part of that control was the banning of “foreign sports” and any young lad caught plating football, or soccer, was ostracised , in a sporting capacity.
I live in a Gaeltacht area and I once asked our local National (Primary) school headmaster why he stopped running his school football team.
He said that the school would lose grants if he continued.
This was not too long ago, although I believe it is not so rigid now.
However, that is/was the reality of the foreign games ban.
They were afraid of the competition and that, for me, is the main reason why the Irish National team is so poor. The cream of sporting youth is trawled by the strength of the local GAA clubs, plus, years of traditional family allegiance.
BMCUW, thank you, for that, all support is most welcome.
Maradominic
Away and give me peace.You are not on here for ages,but the first sign of trouble,on like a shot.Spewing out the same old claptrap.Yours is not an opinion,beforeany of the do Gowers come on,its an anti everything Celtic diatribe.You don’t go to the games anymore according to you,but plenty of negatives to come on here and spout about.
Not to me.
https://twitter.com/siferry8/status/1020271695423262720?s=08
Barry Robson on WGS, very funny a few swerry words
TRADITIONALIST88 on 20TH JULY 2018 2:52 PM
marspapa on 20th July 2018 1:58 pm
Did Morgan get injured in training or was this in relation to an ongoing issue from St Mirren days, do you know?
HH
TRAD , sorry for the late reply , went out a wee walk with the wife .
I’m sure i read somewhere before that its been a niggling injury pre-move to Celtic and we’ve hooecully got rid of the problem with a wee clear up op …..affoot noo .
Catchye ??
https://twitter.com/BBCDouglasF/status/1020271976903036928?s=08
Met a Rosenborg supporter of my acquaintance in the pub over here last night.
Said there is bad blood in the dressing room, springing mainly from Bendtner not rating Ingebrigtsen. Behind-the-back whispering campaign and all that stuff.
While the guy is definitely not Owen Coyle’s granny, he was a drunk Norwegian bloke in a pub, so it might be a load of bollix, but I thought I would lob it in anyway.
Regarding the GAA, theres a lot of historically accepted ‘norms’ in Ireland that really shouldn’t have become the norm at all.
I have relatives in rural Ireland who couldn’t point to France or Spain on a map. In fact, theres a couple I’m not even sure could point to Ireland. A lot of people have never left the country!
The Brexit brigade and the OO dont have a monopoly on anti-foreigner and racist sentiment. A lot of progress has been made but outwith the big cities and among certain age groups there is an inwards looking mentality.
If any good comes of Brexit it will be that Ireland builds closer ties to the rest of Europe and there are examples of that happening already. Just wish the English voted themselves out and didnt have the ability to drag us with them.
HH
marspapa on 20th July 2018 3:30 pm
Cheers, shame that, but at least he should be back mid-August or thereabouts,
HH
Tell you one thing, Celtic Football Club, know how to string us, Celtic Supporters along,3 Strips,and all the other merchandise,they want us to buy,Yet our Supporters having been saying ,since last season,we need to add a centre half ,a right back,and possibly another winger,and what’s happened the usual nothing, Brendan Rodgers talks a good talk about the need for quality,in the team,well you know what go a tell Lawell and co to get the finger out,and sign these players you want,You weren’t slow in telling him about the need for a new pitch,and I know it’s early days,but come on , surely we can’t depend on this present team of Football players to get a good run in the Champions league,so Peter Lawell stop taking us for granted,do what’s right for our Club.
Timbhoy2 one last try, how much would you pay for Mcginn? Simple question simple answer. H H Hebcelt
I thought the whole scottish vote was the high water mark for fighting on CQN, and, so one of, if not the lowest, points in CQN’s history …..
sadly, I am afraid that when the whole Res. 12/ governance things comes to an end (with or without minor changes realized) the bloodletting that will be seen on here will make the last incident seem like child’s play …
hope I am wrong about that …
MIKE IN TORONTO
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I was asking you about Sevco’s legal team from your view as a lawyer, I’ve never believed Celtic knew nothing how could they and I don’t think they’ve ever said that have they??
I’ll leave you too your whataboutery..
HH
HEN1RIK on 20TH JULY 2018 12:56 PM
Twitter.
Here’s the document that says SFA/ *RFC won’t go to CAS …. https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/Clublicensing/02/04/25/58/2042558_DOWNLOAD.pd
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From a quick read the SFA did not undergo a compliance audit in season 2011/12 or 2012/13 so it cannot be used to say SFA complied. Not saying they didn’t but that document does not mean they did.
Nor is it clear from it if UEFA at any time carried out a specific audit on the application by RFC for a UEFA Licence in 2011.
There was a claim by Regan in a letter of Sept 2011 to an enquirer after Sherrif Officers called where he said
” Whilst I cannot be any more specific regarding any individual case, I can point out that our licensing system does undergo rigorous quality control checks. The system is ISO9001 registered and was recently audited by UEFA directly. Whilst the UEFA audit referred to decisions for last season. I can highlight that no material variances have been identified in the processes or the decisions that have been taken for clubs. ”
In it he is pointing out that the system/procedures were up to a particular quality standard but not that the specific 2011 application from RFC was. In fact he says the UEFA audit referred to decisions for 2010/2011.
Just one of his little disingenousities.
Commperr is always injured Jozo is injury prone. We knew there was a chance of Boyata going to world cup..Knew he was going 2 moths ago. Wont play Hendry at centre half Plays him ahead or Ralston and Gamboa at right back. And mo cover for KT is is targeted every game to try to severely injure him
I’m probably missing something here, but I am happy that the Huns’ 2011 cheating, aided and abetted by the SFA, will now be going to CAS.
The alternative, as far as I understand it, would have been the SFA investigating itself, and we all know how that song goes.
The SFA would firebomb their own offices before indicting the Huns for cheating, not least because of their own complicity in that cheating. So they have unsurprisingly passed the toxic parcel to Lausanne as if it contained a grenade with the pin out (which in many ways, it does).
The Glib and Shameless Liar’s one true talent is filibustering and kicking nasty stuff into long, tangled grass, and I think this is his strategy in lobbying the SFA to refer this to CAS. Gives him a little more wriggle room.
Subsequently lobbying the SFA NOT to refer this to CAS is part of the same strategy, not to mention being a symptom of a God complex that would alarm God Himself.
But how can this be regarded as a victory for King?
So long as the terms of reference of the CAS investigation are not dictated from Edmiston Road, or South Africa, isn’t this just really good news?
Or am I just being dumb/naive?
Lyon are in the Champions League this season, seems strange they want Dedryk Boyata when the CQN ‘experts’ have him as an escape goat.
Real head scratcher, that one CSC
Greenbillingsley
In some respects, you are not wrong… if things were on the level
but, for some of us, the starting assumption is that the SFA has no real interest in doing anything of any substance … so, really, the only question is how this charade plays out ….
will the SFa even pursue this with the CoA? I’m not convinced…. victory for the zombies
but if they do, they would put in a half-assed effort to ensure a pre-ordained result … (and who is going to hold them to account if they dont do so?) ) then there will be a finding by the CoA in favour of the zombies that will be dragged up from here to eternity …
‘their’ papers have pretty much already told us what the likely outcomes may be ….
this way, when the inevitable decision in favour of the zombies comes out, the league and everyone involved can say ‘well, it wasn’t our decision … time to move on…’
the zombies would rather not have to go through with it (probalbly cant afford their lawyers), but the zombies are desperate for a win (so they can justify their bs to their fans)….
either way, I suspect that we are seeing the end game .. the dying embers of whatever vestige of integrity there was in the scottish game.
We dismiss transfer speculation regarding our players as nonsense when there is no real supporting evidence, be it Tierney, Dembele, Rogic etc.
A real head scratcher how when it suits we’ll believe the unfounded rumours though!
Its in the Sun it must be true CSC
BSR
I suspect Lyon aren’t interested. Newspaper nonsense.
It would seem that the CAS announcement – and the predictable anti board biased reaction it would have – has had a very hun friendly effect. It has distracted our attention away from the fact that Sevco are probably running an insolvent company now.
Also – When did parents stop being parents. If Celtic release 3 strips that’s called choice. If you can afford one – tell you kid to choose their favourite. If you can afford three get them three but you would be spoiling the poor souls!!
Res 12 was a motion to Celtic AGM. Its intention was to expose the SFA on not applying the rules in granting a UEFA License in 2011/12. I assume what is being referred to the CAS. Rangers defence is that the 5 way agreement gives them immunity
Now if CAS does look at this deal it may expose the corruption. However, 3 of the parties no longer exist and only SFA and Sevco remain.
What should have happened is an enquiry into the whole thing. Tax evasion, non payment, registration, dual contracts, 5 way agreement and the subsequent cover ups.
Instead, we have this half assed enquiry which will likely find that the deid organisations were to blame.
SFA and Sevco will at best get a slap on the wrists.
SFA are corrupt and Sevco are cheats but this case will no longer produce any punishment.
The governing bodies, courts will not lift a finger against them. They are protected.
Sad the game is bent and always has been.
With our squad being stretched particularly in the CH position for a couple of reasons we cannot sell Boyata, even if he is not going to resign, we need him for this campaign as it does not look any new CHs are on the verge of signing.
i doubt there is nothing that Dedrick could do to appease or win over some fans thats the nature of the game. ive given up debating with those with entrenched minds. We are guilty of favouring certain types of players, so im sure he’s not losing sleep over the abuse he gets from his own “supporters”.
Im more concerned that we havent got a decent partnership available for next week, not that our next opponents worry me, but i would feel more secure if i had 100% confidence in our propsed CB pairing next week.
i doubt there is anything
Iblamemyeducation CSC
BSR
We didn’t sign Denayer.
But it disnae matter,
Cause we signed Bhoyata.