Rugby refereeing leaving football in wake

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Honestly, see these rugby types complaining about a referee, don’t they know these things even themselves out over the season? What’s that? You mean the maths suggest that random events don’t even themselves out with small sample sizes, such as cup ties (sample of 1) and games against rivals (same of 4)?

The ‘even themselves out’ brigade could do with some remedial maths, it’s statistical hokum.

Within 24 hours of a mistake World Rugby called it so. No ‘referees’ union’ stonewalling, no defending the indefensible, no conspiracy to hide a lie, no tolerance of unacceptable standards, no fans left wondering why their game was misaligned with the rules. Without delay, World Rugby set the record straight, there is literally nothing more to see here.

Compare and contrast with our own sport in Scotland. The ‘referees’ union’ is alive and well, indefensible decisions are excused by a myriad of excuses, unacceptable standards have been tolerated for decades, instead of an explanation, fans are left with a vacuum into which they attempt to construct reason (which is very unhelpful). And although a referee quickly declared his own lie, the culture of the SFA was such that it was not declared beyond the Association until after a whistle-blower made sure it was known. Fifa is not the only football organisation bedevilled by a culture of cronyism.

Scottish football is under no pressure from above to improve. Fifa and Uefa thrive in the culture which has recently been revealed – largely by US prosecutors and journalists, some of whom have been whistling in the wind for 30 years. This percolates down to national associations, who are filled with office holders, appointed by the same patronage culture which allowed Michel Platini pocket 2m Swiss francs from Sep Blatter’s Fifa.

Nor is there sufficient pressure on the SFA from member clubs, apart from Celtic and one or two others, who are viewed as pariahs by some at Hampden, for the persistent flow of DVD-enclosed performance complaints.

It’s not easy being a referee; good ones are invaluable. They will continue to make mistakes at all levels, in all sports, but it should be easy to have an open culture which recognises the interests of the paying spectators. Just as World Rugby does. Protecting referees with a wall of silence is, in fact, not protecting them at all.

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  1. ‘GG

     

     

    The ‘stooge’ was the one who,correctly, gave the second Arsenal goal tonight when the ref couldn’t tell if the ball had gone over the line.

     

     

    Exception to the rule, right enough.

  2. ‘GG on 20th October 2015 10:39 pm

     

     

    Tontine Tim

     

     

     

     

    I took umbrage at your use of Christian Fundamentalism.

     

     

     

     

    True Christianity is fundamentalist in practise.

     

     

     

     

    I didn’t mean to be insulting or awaken Petec.

     

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    Don’t you be worrying about that, I’m defo off to bed.

     

     

    I just happened to be online looking at things as I waited on certain things.

     

     

    Blind Faith is stupid.

     

     

    Everyone should realise that I Believe we are definitely in the End Times – triggered when Israel was Reborn, I’m not telling anyone else to believe that, I Believe that to be the start of a generational process.

     

     

    Never Forget that God created Everyone, Left, Right, Communist, Capitalist, Kojo, Paul67, Paul McStay, Jimmy, My Sister Co. That is the Truth.

     

     

    Everyone was Born into Sin.

  3. beatbhoy

     

    The use of Instant Replay would negate the need for the extra officials.

     

    BTW that’s the first time I have ever seen one make a decision.

  4. ‘GG on 20th October 2015 11:08 pm

     

     

    Petec

     

     

     

     

    Faith is based on complete trust without the need for definitive proof.

     

    ……………

     

     

    Definitely.

  5. ‘GG

     

     

    I did say he was the exception to the rule.

     

     

    CL should at the very least have EPL-type goal line technology as a start to using the available technology to get big decisions right.

  6. ‘GG on 20th October 2015 11:08 pm

     

     

     

    Petec

     

     

     

     

    Faith is based on complete trust without the need for definitive proof.

     

     

    *the oulder I get I now see life differently. I still believe in the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of saints, the Resurrection of the Body and Life Everlasting. I am a Secular Franciscan and believe that we are not the only ones who will enter the Gates of Heaven.

     

     

    Love thy neighbour and stop looking at blowing up those who are not like us whether colour, culture or creed.

  7. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Thought for the day.

     

     

    If you approach something thinking it can’t be done,it usually doesn’t.

  8. “Faith is based on complete trust without the need for definitive proof.”

     

     

    Sounds like Sevconians and Glibby’s war-chest.

     

     

  9. Tontine Tim on 20th October 2015 11:15 pm

     

     

    ‘GG on 20th October 2015 11:08 pm

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Petec

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Faith is based on complete trust without the need for definitive proof.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    *the oulder I get I now see life differently. I still believe in the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of saints, the Resurrection of the Body and Life Everlasting. I am a Secular Franciscan and believe that we are not the only ones who will enter the Gates of Heaven.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Love thy neighbour and stop looking at blowing up those who are not like us whether colour, culture or creed.

     

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    My Granda had the best Garden ever, Granda died a good while after Grandma. No Kerr has the house now, and the Garden. I guess the orientation for Capitalising on things isn’t in this Family.

     

     

    It won’t stop me criticising Pope Francis for getting into bed with Wall Street and this Green Pantheism Agenda.

     

     

    That First Commandment it is Crucial.

  10. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    TONYDONNELLY67 on 20TH OCTOBER 2015 12:30 PM

     

     

    So the living wage is on hand again, I’v yet to see someone who works at Celtic Park to take the lead on this!

     

     

    Who is the spokesperson up front sitting down with Celtic negotiating this LW request?

     

     

    Anyone know, would I be going out on a limb saying it isn’t a worker?

     

     

    I don’t know I’m just asking?

     

     

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    Did this get an answer?

     

     

    Anyone?

  11. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    !!BADA BING!!

     

     

    It’s not mine, but a good question that deserves a response from someone who is promoting this “living wage” for the agenda of the AGM.

     

     

    The silence is deafening!

  12. Tontine Tim

     

    I just wish I had the same commitment to practicing the tenets of faith.

     

    I do believe we won’t be the only ones in heaven.

     

    But we will be the only ones to daily watch a generational select Celtic side beat the Rangers 7-1 every day in a wee green corner. ;-)

     

    I assume everyone knows the story of the old Wee Free minister who goes up to the pearly gates?

     

    Peter welcomes him and says that the system, CQN based, is getting an urgent OS update to clear the pop ups, and they can’t allocate his wee bungalow until they get back online.

     

    Peter gives him a bike and invites him to take a wee tour of heaven and report back in a few hours.

     

    On his return, Peter asks the pastor, how he liked heaven.

     

    “Oh I had a wonderful time,” he said.

     

    “I met my old bible tutor from Glasgow University, I even caught a glimpse of Moses and John Knox.”

     

    “Great” said Peter. “Now before I get an Angel to take you to your wee but n ben, do you have any questions?”

     

    “Yes I do. I was cycling all afternoon and there was a great wall which never got any closer no matter how much I cycled towards it. I could faintly hear cheering, singing and great joy coming over the wall. I wondered just what it was.”

     

    ‘Oh” Peter said. “We built that for the Catholics.”

     

    “It’s to make them think they are the only ones who made it.”

  13. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    Alan Muirgate……..

     

     

    This is the opinion of JohnJames on his website…………

     

     

    “Perhaps I did not make this clear enough. This is not a forum for discussing CFC. I introduced the topic to discuss a means of playing Europa Cup football next year.

     

     

    However it’s obvious to everyone that Alan Muir is a CFC hater and will always go out of his way to undermine them.

     

     

    So CFC supporters will just have to get used to it.

     

     

    There’s a career as an after dinner speaker for referees who did not award CFC a penalty during their tenure in the game.

     

     

    When we play you next season, should Muir referee, I guarantee we will prevail.”

     

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    Who do you think he is?

     

     

    Is his surname Dallas?

  14. Give them the Living Wage….then take away their tax credits….

     

     

     

    Unfortunately most of the poor Fookas who deserve the living wage also deserve the tax credits

     

     

     

    Credit where credit is due……

     

     

     

    Lots of the tax credits go to people who have never paid tax in their lives…..

     

     

     

    Utopian socialism is ermmmmmm……Utopia….until the ermmmmm socialists run out of other people’s money….

     

     

     

    Socialism is dead in Scotland…..has been since socialism was ‘invented’

     

     

    It never really existed……

     

     

     

    Masonic backwater regardless of which party governs….

     

     

     

    Always will be……….Wish Celtic could break out of there and stop being taught to be cautious by the Brotherhood on their board.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  15. ‘GG on 21st October 2015 12:18 am Oh” Peter said. “We built that for the Catholics.”

     

     

    “It’s to make them think they are the only ones who made it.”

     

     

    *unfortunately that’s what we were taught.

  16. John James is Alistair ‘the nod’ Johnstone…..

     

     

    Absolutely convinced….

     

     

    Hell hath no fury like someone scorned by a Glib and Shameless Liar from Castlemilk.

  17. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Off to Los Gigantes in the morn. See u Bhoys Heilan Paddys on Thursday nite??

     

     

     

    H H

  18. Tontine Tim….

     

     

    Peter said ‘We built that for Catholics’?

     

     

    Lol

     

     

    Reading some of the posts on here on a Sunday before ,during , and after Mass….I think Paul67 inadvertently did the same.

     

     

    Catholic Quick News

     

     

    Communion Quick News

     

     

    OR

     

     

    Celtic Quick News?

     

     

     

    All inclusive Quick News would have appealed more to my hero Jock Stein

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    CelticFCAllinclusive

  19. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    RUDICANTFAIL on 21ST OCTOBER 2015 12:49 AM

     

     

    John James is Alistair ‘the nod’ Johnstone…..

     

     

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    Ah, you mean this guy……………..

     

     

    “FORMER Rangers chairman Alistair Johnston has cautioned that the directors in waiting may be opening a Pandora’s Box when they finally enter the Ibrox portals after the latest manoeuvring by Mike Ashley and his nominated representatives on the board.

     

     

    On another remarkable day in the incredible story of Rangers, Dave King announced that the battle for control was over and the war had been won only for the Ashley camp to fire two more unexpected volleys.

     

     

    King claimed he had achieved “a landslide victory” in terms of support for all of his resolutions which will remove the remaining directors – chief executive Derek Llambias and finance director Barry Leach – and replace them with himself, Paul Murray and John Gilligan.”

     

     

    You could be spot-on!

  20. I’m totally speechless.

     

    Blue Jays have been hammered, hammered I say, boy.

     

    KC won the vital, aren’t they all, game 4 in Toronto 14-2

     

    They now lead the ALCS 3-1.

     

    Mets are in Chicago where the score is 1-1 at the top of the 2nd.

     

    Mets lead the NLCS 2-0 after the first two games in Queens.

  21. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    ‘GG,

     

     

    KC = Kris Commons, right?

     

     

    NLCS = Neil Lennon’s Celtic Supporters, right?

     

     

    What’s to be speechless about?

     

     

    :~)

     

    HH

  22. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    BRTH, I tried to donate to your “Sleep over” effort but got bombed out twice.

     

     

    I have a twenty with your name on it. I,ll get it to you on Sunday.

     

     

    Hope you make your target.

  23. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    BGX, I read your post regarding suporters buying full SB’s and not attending when the hun visit.

     

     

    Can I just say I could not give a shit about your opinion of what I do with my money.

     

     

    fanx and HH

  24. It’s almost lights out time in Chicago as it starts to rain on the Cubs parade.

     

    They are down 5-2 to the Mets bottom of the 9th.

     

    Daniel Murphy hits another homer tonight. 5 straight so far.

     

    2 down one left for the Cubs.

     

    And the New York Mets win 5-2 to lead 3-0 in the best of 7 series.

     

    Queens erupts.

  25. Neil Lennon & McCartney

     

    KC. Knights of Columba

     

    NLCS. Night Laddies Celtic Supporters

     

     

    Good night and be safe out there.

  26. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Peter, 11pm….20th

     

     

    That was awfully nice of God to create us all into sin ……

  27. NEIL LENNON & MCCARTNEY on 21ST OCTOBER 2015 12:17 AM

     

    !!BADA BING!!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    It’s not mine, but a good question that deserves a response from someone who is promoting this “living wage” for the agenda of the AGM.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The silence is deafening!

     

     

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    Bang, crash and a big bad wallop!

     

     

    Just breaking the silence :-)

     

     

    Personally, I’ve spoken to in excess of 30 people employed at Parkhead over the past 18 months all of whom weren’t receiving a Living Wage.

     

     

    There is no Union available to join for those employed at the club or the agencies which supply workers to Celtic. It would take a mighty brave person to stand up to those in charge at Celtic and demand more money.

     

     

    In my own opinion it is a disgrace that our club, with its founding principles, isn’t an accredited LW employer.

     

     

    Please bang on the head any nonsense idea that this is about a few troublemakers attempting to stir up a hornet’s nest for the sake of it. This is about trying to force a Plc board to do the decent and right thing.

     

     

    The 10,000 Celtic supporters who signed the petition would agree.

  28. Good morning friends from a dark, damp, drizzly and slightly blowey East Kilbride.

     

     

    Wan mair sleep….

  29. CQN almost working on iPhone. Just need to x the Turkish Airlines advert and hey presto here I am.

     

     

    Annoying.

  30. Supersutton

     

     

    Yes but when I try to X Turkish Airlines it takes to their YouTube ad anyway!!

     

     

    Annoying indeed and making it far harder to pop into cqn.

     

     

    Jobo’s right – as ever – late autumn has arrived. Seems as though all the leaves fell overnight. Always a worry on a dark morning in case of lurking toleys!

     

     

    A bit like life really.

     

     

    Intrigued and respectfully concerned about tomorrow night’s game against stars of the group thus far.

     

     

    HH jamesgang