The organising committee of the proposed Joint Russian and Ukrainian championship have confirmed that the Russian Premier League have voted in favour of the proposal. The matter will now go to the Russian Association and the corresponding authorities in Ukraine.
Valery Gazzaev, president of Russian club, Alania Vladikavkaz, told reporters, “Innovation is never easy, even the World Cup and European Championships had doubters in the game. The English, who founded the game, were sceptical about such championships.
“We have had the same doubts about our project but in football, a policy of integration is now necessary. Look at the European Championship in 2020, which will be held across 13 countries.
“Given the economic crisis in Europe few territories can afford to maintain a competitive team. If we draw a combined championship with Russia and Ukraine we will improve entertainment, as well as football and financial stability.
“Half of Russian clubs are unprofitable (a considerably lower portion than UK clubs), 70% are subsidised by governmental budgets, this is wrong. A Joint League will enable teams to earn money to pay their own way.
“We want to create a strong league which will compete with the best in Europe.
“The plan is to hold the first joint championship in 2015-16. Teams will compete in European competitions under their national flags. The national quotas for participation in the tournament will remain the same, so if ranking does not change, Russia and Ukraine will be represented in the Champions League by six teams.
“Our proposal is fully consistent with Uefa strategy. Uefa understand that, under the current league structures, Financial Fair Plan will weaken our clubs. A combined championship gives us a solution.
“Part of the budget for the new league will come from the sale of media rights. The remaining amount will be generated from sponsors. It’s not just about Gazprom, other major Russian, Ukrainian and international companies will be involved (no mention of Flamingo Land yet).”
Make no mistake, this project’s viability is underwritten by political and financial muscle. Gazprom are a huge player in world energy markets, as well as European football sponsorship, while politicians in Moscow and Kiev see football as a ‘political football’.
They have the money and backers to ensure this slips through Uefa, creating an important blueprint in the process. Note specifically that Champions League spots will be retained by each nation, a hugely important point for integration elsewhere.
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canamalar
Im raging at the way you have been treated, clearly you have touched the same raw nerve I did when i wrote to PL on this, they want to ignore it hope it goes away and distract the support by focusing on the CL, keep going at it , we are no more having a say in the club now as we did under the Whytes and Kellys.
Summa, brilliant post this morning, not only a fantastic player, but a gentleman I was priviledged to meet.
Bma
“BlackHawk Down!
…somewhere in Glasgow’s East End…………..
Now I think we have a blueprint for a British Premier League, two Divisions with say six teams from Scotland.
It could be implemented at the end of the season the demoted Clubs from the Barclays Premier are replaced from the two top English Champions league clubs and the top Scottish Club.
The British Premiership Division Two Will be made up of the three demoted the 2nd – 6th placed Teams from the SPL and the 3rd to 12th placed English champions League clubs.
Voila!!!
They could even restructure the Welsh Clubs and bring their UCL place into the BPL.
letsgetitonCSC
Hail Hail
Ghuys, I was not the one who had to take this, your sympathy and thanks need to go to Morissey23rd.
Ultimately, it is for the National Associations, via their FIFA mandate, to foster and promote the game in their jurisdiction as they see fit. If the Russian and Ukrainian (or any other group of) FAs elect to create a top league between them, it’s essentially their call.
UEFA’s beef is in ensuring cross-border competition doesn’t impact on their own trans-European monopoly.
Their practical challenge though is to facilitate a bulwark to the strength of England and Germany, Italy and Spain, without providing the big boys with a licence to create their own competitions.
It would be rather difficult for UEFA to prevent for example Barca and Real from joining up with the top Italian and French teams if the Russians and Ukrainians (or indeed Dutch and Belgians) had set a valid precedent.
A few folk may recall from some time ago the idea of the “Espanyolification” of Rangers. These days, the talk in Spain is of the “SPLification” of La Liga, where only two teams now have the resources to win. (News of the demise of Celtic’s sole competitor notwithstanding)
Be interesting to watch as matters develop (or not).
SOAL,
Is that where all those lovely wee rabbits are skinned
11:12 on 27 September, 2013
Saint Stivs
01:38 on 27 September, 2013
canamalar prays Oscar can do it again
01:22 on
27 September, 2013
St….,
ps.
yours is now a strategic fight, your raising a flag against a ruling class.
you won enough to take the motion forward, and huge admiration to Morrisey for making it happen.
but now, take a step back, get off the blogs, other than making a statement, dont get involved with the bawbags, take a step back , and get prepared for the motion, no more late night comments or blows with the hard of understanding.
box clever, no more sparring, dont give the opposition any ammo.
i like your fight and arguments at other times , but now its time to focus.
keep it lit.
longer game in in play
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Canamalar,
There is nothing that could be added to the advice that St. Stivs has given you in the post above.
It was not your ‘bull in a china shop’ routine that got you the support that you have been
given.
DIPLOMACY is not a dirty word.
Don’t snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Good Luck.
PS…Just seen the report of theCeltic Park cold shoulder.
Again,..DO NOTHING.
The resolution will not GO AWAY.
Celtic MUST deal with their shareholders submission.
Don’t play into their hands IF they are being disruptive.
Be still…….. They cannot ignore their own supports’ legitimate concerns
It is OUR club.
Canamalar – with the level of shareholder support you have, do the board have to include the resolution in the AGM if they can’t find any legal grounds for excluding it?
T4
Canamalar
1st real crack in the dam walls mate, the advice is good, take a step back and let the pressure build.
Well done you.
Guys
3 Premium tickets available for Tuesday night. Seated together in Jock Stein with access to lounges, free programme pies etc.
Looking to pass on for FACE VALUE of £100 each. Ideally sell as 3 to minimise logistics of handover etc.
Bought as part of 3 match package but late customer call off means I have availability.
Hoping I can avoid stub hub!
Kilbowie Kelt
PS…Just seen the report of theCeltic Park cold shoulder.
Again,..DO NOTHING.
The resolution will not GO AWAY.
Celtic MUST deal with their shareholders submission.
Don’t play into their hands IF they are being disruptive.
Be still…….. They cannot ignore their own supports’ legitimate concerns
It is OUR club.
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Thank you for that
Ying and Yang: Celtic,Me and the Scottish League Cup
During my weekly, weekend-walk with my Granda (mid 90’s) around the lost villages between Airdrie and Plains he came out with it. The phrase I thought of on Tuesday night; the phrase that sums up everything I’ve experienced since my first game: Celtic v Airdrie 1975 Cup Final till my latest, our exit from the League Cup at the hands or should that be the feet of Morton.
I’d been walking those roads and field with him since I was a toddler. This was my Celtic University, it was all he talked about. I listened intently and questioned when I could. McGrory, Stein, Tully, Peacock, Murdoch (his favourite), Lennox and Jinky. It was magical but as this was the 90’s, I often felt a tinge of jealousy and resentment that my current heroes wouldn’t be remembered with the same reverence…apart from the Maestro of course.
It was the week after Raith Rovers.
Old Paddy said and I paraphrase: “You made the right choice supporting Celtic-as if I had a choice-but you need to know there will be real highs and real lows…” It was only a week after Raith Rovers this particular low was still eating away.
I’ve often thought of his wise words and I wondered what he’d be saying this week. Firstly it would be enjoy the good times; then it would be that we are Champions and Barcelona et al are due to visit; he’d have a devilish dig at the turbulence in Govan and then he tell me that he told me so. This is the Celtic way and the League Cup encompasses this for me.
I wasn’t around in 1957, my parents got my year of birth perfectly aligned with Celtic folklore, but Paddy spoke about that final with a warmth that must have matched the sun beating down in Hampden on that famous day. We actually defeated Partick Thistle the year before after a reply but nobody remembers that Thistle League Cup Final. Rangers made us pay for our legendary win with numerous victories over us in League Cup Finals. I’ve experienced horrible days at Hampden as they collect the first trophy of the season and end hope yet again of a treble.
My ’57 moment was a much narrower victory. 2-1 to us with Champagne Charlie and Murdo firing us to a much deserved victory. Jim Bett scored for them ensuring a tortuous, nervous finale but we won. We were drowned by the torrential rain and our songs of celebration drifted into the Mt. Florida air as the blue battalions belted out their bigotry, aided and abetted by their roof. More defeats from them would follow though and it seemed this was a cup we just didn’t want to win.
We could find a way to lose we hadn’t thought of before. As I sat in the back row of the ‘Broomloan’ in 1994 watching my hero walk towards the penalty spot, I knew he was going to miss, I hurriedly tried to make the exit. Paddy’s word echoed in my ears.
We’d return to the same venue under Wim and destroy Dundee Utd with a swashbuckling performance led by our Swedish hero. Ying and Yang.
These are personal memories and don’t incorporate all the league cup matches I’ve attended. We’ve played in 29 League Cup finals, winning 14 and losing 15. Ying and Yang.
Of course Paddy was right, supporting Celtic was the ‘right choice’ and the good times for this happy clapper always outweigh the bad but the League Cup has had a real go at balancing things.
Well done Morton.
Hail Hail
Afternoon all,
Just popping in to say (feel like KevJ here):
Looking forward to tomorrow – BMCUW puts a lot of effort into this new occurence, not just by organising, but also on the day, making sure everyone has been introduced. A victim of his own good nature :))
So hoping he has a great day !
Zimmerman – are you going to make it?
Right, that’s me.
Off oot…
KK,
Thanks for the reminder, and St Stives is bang on the money, I knew he was but a bevied jack and danny is a fool for himself, need to screw the bobbin time, there’s lots of twists n turns to come, I’m actually surprised there was not a strategy already in place to deal with us, seems a bit rough on Morissey to be turned away like that, I mean it costs nothing to be civil especially when it’s your own bread and butter your dealing with.
canamalar
Apols, what happened with Morissey?
Knowing the effort Morissey23rd put in and also his love for the club,
turning him away for asking questions on behalf of shareholders is a sad day.
time to take stock.
Bhoys any clues as to where the meet is tomorrow. Is it a venue frequented by CRC? I can make the game and an hour after.
I’d also like to purchase a CQN badge if they are available tomorrow.
midfield maestro:
mate I’ll take the other two tickets off you. Obviously they’re not for me but do you live in Glasgow to effect payment?
roy croppie
Do you ever check your email?
PS Great story about Granda
HH
roy croppie – good post about the LC. Our record in the LC finals just re-affirms my dislike of Hampden!
The bhoys are starting off in the London Road CSC to watch the game and then moving on from there.
T4
lymmbhoy
I will now mate :))
HH
roy croppie
I believe it’s kicking off in the Celtic Supporters Club in London Rd, where the game will be watched and strong drink taken.
Thereafter Bar67.
tommytwiststommyturns supporting Wee Oscar
Thanks mate.
HH
If Celtic decide to announce the AGM on a date less than six weeks from when I handed in the resolutions, the can try and use this as an excuse for not accepting the resolution.
They did try and refuse to take them from me on Tuesday. I insisted on being given a receipt, which I was eventually given, although I refused to take it until it was dated correctly. It was originally dated for Wednesday.
I spoke to the lawyer for Celtic who is dealing with this issue on Wednesday. He said we may have missed the six week deadline as the AGM may be on the 3rd of November. Not only would that be wrong as it would be within the six weeks but I doubt the AGM would be on a Sunday.
He told me he would call me back yesterday but as you know from Canamalars post. That did not happen and it seems we are being blackballed.
roy croppie
12:27 on 27 September, 2013
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Lovely post.Your Granda knew a thing or two.
Thank you.
tttt,
I’m a newbie to all this so no sure what grounds they can use to reject, I’ve asked around and taken a few legal opinions and suggestions who think there is no real legal grounds for rejection. So we’ll just have to wait and see.
I’ve already predicted they will simply call the AGM early and that’s grounds under time limitations but they know we’ll simply come back at them next year, obviously to me anyway, anyone supporting this will have no problem resigning a redrafted resolution if it needs done, and getting it in for Christmass so in plenty of time for the next one.
As I say it’s now the waiting game
Modern country with an excessively bloated top league, continuing to bring in huge revenue from Sky and from increasing overseas tv rights is rubbish.
roy – forgot to say that CRC will be travelling back down from Elgin tomorrow, so he might not be meeting up until later in the afternoon.
Not sure if he’s got any badges left, although I seem to recall him saying something about producing a new batch?!
HH
TTTT
So a night out that starts before a midday kick off
* looks at the floor and shakes head *
Philbhoy/Kilbowie Kelt
Thanks guys.
HH
morrissey the 23rd
What about a meeting for all shareholders who backed the resolution ( all those who can make it)
to see what we do next .
We need to stand together on this and not leave it to just yourself and Canamalar .
Thanks for you efforts so far .
HH
nearly wet myself
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/club-news/item/5165-flamingo-land-sponsors-dj
canamalar 12:42
Give me an email address and I will give you a contact that knows football AGM legals inside-out.
Not promising he will get involved – but he might give you some pointers.
H!H!
I did say to the Celtic’s lawyer that the six week rule did not mean it could not be included in the AGM and it would reflect badly on Celtic to their support and share-holders if this was used to prevent the resolution being tabled. He agreed on principle that Celtic could accommodate it but that was not a decision he could make. That would be up to the board.
He promised call me back but as you now know. That did not happened. Although security were told not to allow me to return.
morrissey the 23rd
12:40 on 27 September, 2013,
How did you’re job interview!
Canamalar
Disgraceful what has happened to Morrisey at Celtic Park
Please please give me the details on how to buy shares, how many & what type – Visa card is at the ready !!!!!!! If I’m too late this time it will do for the next time
I’ll then give you whatever details you need and you can work away.
FourGreenFields supports Wee Oscar @ 12:47
A plan of action will be formed at tomorrows day oot.