It was as though large parts of Scotland’s media, and many Rangers fans, had decided enough was enough after Saturday’s game. Sectarian singing was reported and roundly condemned, although, inexplicably, BBC Sportscene flippantly suggested disagreeable refereeing could be a cause. It was, however, Nil By Mouth from the government on tackling this peculiar fabric of society.
A Scottish government spokesman was unable to even acknowledge Saturday’s events, giving the Sunday Herald a completely neutral comment: “We deplore sectarian or bigoted chanting at any grounds or from any fans in Scotland.”
By his own admission, Alex Salmond is busy “arguing” with HMRC and campaigning to secure Rangers’ unique place in the fabric of Scottish society – despite openly being in breach of Fifa rules which could see Celtic kicked out of the Champions League and Scotland unable to compete in the World Cup qualifiers. It would have cost him nothing to fall in line with everyone else and make it clear this behaviour is not what he is fighting for.
Issues like this are why we need a First Minister, Alex. If you have decided to go Nil By Mouth, you’re betraying the very fabric you should be cultivating. No one wants to live in a Scotland that looks like this.
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Hail Hail
more and more stuff coming out all the time, sfa and spl must be complicit in all these lies. i think everything will lead back to them. in terms of registration errors or over sights ; ) blind eyes being turned and european money being paid out when the taxes weren’t being paid. regan has played it down and never condemned der hun which is very strange indeed for a man who is all about honesty and transparency. i think the wee man has joined the ranks as an honery(ahem) member of the (billy) boys club.again gordon smith has not opened his mouth through all this. gutless man and hopeing everyone forgets about him. I think hes a link in the chain. missing link??lol
klv
Celtic Champions 2012
More reality TV shows for follow followers of the Foe Malign:
The Apprentice (Boys)
Living in the Past
One Man and His Dog (following the exploits of the ‘crowd’ in seasons 2013-14 onwards)
Or, for the U.S.-based follow followers:
Cheaters
The Real Orange County
FF
rangerstaxcase says:
20/02/2012 at 12:24 am
When someone takes a walk on the wrong side of the law, they no longer have any reason to not stay there. Therefore, there is every reason to believe that those who ran Rangers will have done much more wrong too, but I do not have much information on that.
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May as well be hvng for a sheep as a (succulent) lamb.
Partizan says:
20 February, 2012 at 09:59
‘Like Carlos Tevez without the looks….’
I’ve changed it slightly but you may well have quote of the day there Silver City :-)))))))
Another multiple article day beckons.
Paul you didn’t miss the target yet again !
My mate was at the game and said best atmoisphere apart from celtic games and then they started the bigoted guff and he said to me, maybe we deserve to die and to rid if all this guff. he was gutted. a time for unity and support and all they could do was sing about killing catholics. He was scunnered on sat and right disheartened at FT. just though i’d share that with u guys. a different point of view and all that.
KLV
the real orange county. cracker folly folly.lol
KLV
Hail Hail
Paul et al
I had a dream. The same as Dr King.
Well……
Admittedly, I don’t have the same interest in civil rights in America. I’m more apathetic than activist, more functionary than visionary, more lackadaisical than leader. Apart from that though……
I dreamt of how best to help our poor relations. I’m charitable that way.
How best to market the post liquidation Newco? I have the answer.
It should be called;
“I Can’t Believe It’s Not Rangers”
and the strapline;
“With the same amount of vile sectarianism, toxic, racist bile and mindless thuggery, but with MASSIVELY REDUCED levels of cash!!”
Should I contact their marketing department (otherwise referred to as the janny) do you think?
Wouldn’t want them to miss out.
Cheers
Yogi
Has anyone asked Kenny McAskill for a quote on the atmosphere?
they never done themselves any favours on sat, that shows how stupid they are. The only way out of this is some kind of agreement built on sentiment and they answer that with hatred. i think they lost some media and nutural support with their behaviour on sat.
KLV
Paul 67
To me the reporting of this is the responsibility of the the match commander, his equivalent at CP had no difficulty in reporting Celtic to UEFA and he or she should initiate the reporting of this from Saturday, however it may tell us more about the Police attitude to both clubs when it comes to these issues.
The government wanted Celtic done and they achieved it the rest of the time they will sit back and say one is as bad as the other, neither do I want to live in a Scotland full of predjudice that goes unchallenged by the people whose job it is to do this.
A bleak grey curtain has been drawn over North Ayrshire this morning.
And it’s raining quite a bit too.
Well said, Paul.
To be fair to them they did quieten down later.
I came through Buchanan Street underground station around 5:30 on Saturday and a whole trainfull of them pulled into the other platform. I can report that there was no sectarian singing at all. In fact they all just sat in stony silence looking out of the windows, presumably contemplating the future. Or lack of it.
Charlie Mulgrew named in the Scotland squad,,,,,poor beggar what did he do to deserve that?????
Hail hail :D
Oglach
long time ago, my wife’s (then girlfriend) friend was going out with a guy from Northern Ireland. Eugene was his name. He and I met socially, and I took him to the Hun game at Ibroke. Unfortunately, I only had tickets for the orcs end but we went in anyway. We were taking some abuse naturally, and this was still 30 mins to k.o. To be honest, it was getting a bit hairy. Anyhow, eventually the police intervened and escorted us out and re-sited us in the good ghuys end.
We won 2-0, (I am almost certain) and I remember Murdo McLeod scored one, but my memory is bad. I don’t recall the 2nd. Must have been about 79/80 season. I reckon had we still been in the wrong end, we’d have got a fast track to the nearest hospital.
Anyhow, as we left the ground, we came under attack from a hail of bottles. I remember thinking Eugene will think I am some sort of a headcase, bringing him to this. Anyway, safely back in the pub and he starts telling me all about his team, Cliftonville, and the bitter enemy Linfield. I realised then that the game he had just been to was a rather mild tempered affair!
I often wonder how he is doing. I lost touch when he separated from his girlfriend.
I have a philosophy in life and its very simple and we all know it “never back the bad guy” i wonder if some of these LL are starting to think this way. u cant excuse everything they do. Traynor has been an example of this again he gets the hammer out in his column and your call on sat, he want moonbeams brought into it now.
KLV
as ever well said Paul67
My MSP is deploying the usual political tactic when dealing with awkward questions
…by not answering them!
I can only assume from their lack of condemnation that this is “part of the fabric of the Scottish nation” that the First Minister is so keen to save.
Excellent article.
Pat Fenlon
We complained for years that Rangers (and Linfield) wouldnt employ catholics and when they do we brand those catholics who played for them as traitors/huns/judas etc
Maurice Johnston was a different case,because he led Celtic to beleive that he would sign for them and then changed at the last minuted leaving Celtic public humiliated by the whole thing
But that apart a footballer is surely perfectly entitled to sign for whatever club he wishes
Those who label Pat Fenlon a hun because he played for Linfield are absolutely no better than the bigots who inhabit ibrox.
Pat Fenlon is a Celtic supporter,Pat Fenlon played for Linfield
They are 2 facts,they maybe 2 facts that are hard to reconcile for many Belfast Tims but they are facts all the same.
Get over lads
Paul – a wonderful article. Spot on….again!
I’ve been one of only a few voices in our supporters club over the years to say that I hoped we never had to play them again. More and more are coming round to that way of thinking. I actually went further and said I wished we could play in any other league in the world than the morally and financially bereft backwater of the SPL.
Our Club is run magnificently (tin hat on re transfers!) with a strategy that has been carefully planned to ensure our survival and future growth. If only the SPL, the SFA and Scotland in general could come close to matching that leadership.
They don’t have the intelligence which is fair enough. Far more damningly, they don’t have the will. Let them rot.
Thanks for everything. Hail! Hail!
Kittoch
I am impressed.
Salut! Salut!
unew mike, felt let down by that non-committal statement.
dessybhoy, indeed.
jhilday, cheers.
Barrach, Big Nan, thanks.
kevinlasvegas from previous thread
HaHaHa!
Actually I think our man Craig is trying to get on Extreme Makeover, especially now as the huns have left a message on his castle gate.
Time to dig a bigger moat Craig!
:-)
It was, however, Nil By Mouth from the government on tackling this peculiar fabric of society.
Could the fabric of Scotland be the same stuff they make
orange sashes from ?
Paul
Perhaps in referring to the ‘fabric of society’, our First Minister may have had the expression ‘life’s rich tapestry’ in mind: suggesting that bad experiences are merely part of life which must be accepted since they cannot be avoided …
That said, regardless of what he may or may not have intended to say, if he fails to condemn the sectarian singing at Ibrokes, perhaps it is because he is hoping for der Hun to fold before he has the chance to do so.
Otherwise he should henceforth be renamed ‘Alex Chickened’ …
FF
Once again the evidence is there for everyone to hear or read,
unfortunately once again the silence from those in authority is deafening, this is becoming an all too commonly used tactic, when it suits.
They may never give us the answers we seek,
that in itself should not stop us from continually asking the questions.
The cynic in me says that the First Minister himself is far too busy to comment on this latest episode of shame in the annals of a club steeped in shame, he has more pressing matters to contend with,
tomorrow is after all……..
pancake tuesday.
dessybhoy says:
20 February, 2012 at 10:06
Paul 67
To me the reporting of this is the responsibility of the the match commander, his equivalent at CP had no difficulty in reporting Celtic to UEFA and he or she should initiate the reporting of this from Saturday, however it may tell us more about the Police attitude to both clubs when it comes to these issues.
The government wanted Celtic done and they achieved it the rest of the time they will sit back and say one is as bad as the other, neither do I want to live in a Scotland full of predjudice that goes unchallenged by the people whose job it is to do this.
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Perhaps I am being somewhat paranoid but I believe that the police commander reporting Celtic to the SFA and UEFA was part of a concerted effort by the SNP and Police to ensure that their “Even up the numbers” bill was pushed through the Scots parliament. I would be very surprised if any mention of the singing of ‘illegal’ songs at the ‘sectarian fest’ at Ibroke is made in the Police commanders report. Who knows he may have even been tapping his feet in time to the ‘cultural & historical ditties’ being sang by the fabric of Scots society.
voguepunter
pmsl
I think that their behaviour was entirely predictable and although it was reported it has been with some caveats.
I was at our game yesterday with my son and his pal, it is the best atmosphere at an away game since Seville and the beach balls, guys I spoke to who attend every away game agreed.
While they were up to their knees in bold we were covered in jelly and ice cream and if you think that’s because of the situation you are partly correct, remember last season on the last day, they were up 3 at Kilmarnock and were still up to their knees and we had lost the league after ten minutes, but we were singing about out team, Lenny, mjallby, and Celtic greats and there is the difference.
No to newco.
Folly Folly says:
20 February, 2012 at 09:58
More reality TV shows for follow followers of the Foe Malign:
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‘Huns under the hammer’
‘the secret billionaire’
‘the Killing’
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Paul 1st comment was direct paste from RTC I too felt he could have said more but in the light of my recent review of Traynors prose I was amused by the post script above. As for my second comment I forgot to add well done at the start hail hail
What is the Stars says:
20 February, 2012 at 10:11
Bang on.
maybe someone could clarify,
what should we term some of the “rangers” supporters who past and present have worn the hoops?
Do they remain “huns?”
Age is definitely affecting my memory, so apologies if i am on the wrong track here, but i seem to recall that Neil Lennon said a few years back that he would have played for the dark side if they had asked him in his younger days?
I dont understand why anyone of a Celtic or a catholic persuasion would sign for them. That said, I know quite a few boys from my own youth football club who are as staunch Celtic supporters as i was at their age but who signed pro-youth with TFOD – without exception, they are all good, intelligent, well-balanced boys. Maybe it’s me that has the problem rather than them?