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I’ve read sanctimonious nonsense about how Celtic fans are enjoying these times, on how they should feel instead, and on how they will feel, one day.  I’ve also read what utterings our chief executive and manager should limit themselves to.

Our manager and directors have so far said very little on the subject of Rangers, only responding to direct questions or when you, the Celtic fans, were brought into the debate, without reference to any of us, by the First Minister.  Their response to Mr Salmond brought a swift and appropriate retraction.

It concerns me greatly that Scottish Premier League championships could have been won by a team playing improperly registered football players.  It would concern me even more if my concerns, your concerns, were not shared by the people charged with speaking on our behalf.  It is the responsibility of Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell to leave no Celtic supporter in any doubt that they will vigorously pursue our supporters’ historical and future interests.

Mark Hateley’s piece on today’s Daily Record betrays a lot of hurt.  He concedes this season’s title to Celtic, which he regards as “tainted”.

As someone suggested in the CQN comments section this week, “We don’t need your stinkin’ 10 point penalty”….. we have another 10 point lead in reserve.

Hately suggests you should have the “good grace” to move on as his club “attempts to battle for its very existence”, adding, “There is no need for the likes of Lennon and Peter Lawwell to continue to sink the boot in”.

We will move on once justice has been done and is seen to be done.  Anyone who suggests otherwise, that somehow justice, the maintenance of ethical standards in the game, or even legality, are not things football fans, managers or directors should concern themselves with, has perhaps headed too many footballs in his time.

The coup-de-grace from Hateley was “So let Celtic get on with celebrating their title – a title they somehow failed to win throughout the last three years of financial troubles”.  Does anyone believe Rangers would have won three leagues had they paid their tax instead of singing Jelavic, Lafferty, Davis, Edu, Naismith or Bougherra?

I think this guy is missing the point. If the First Tier Tribunal report confirms already-made allegations that Rangers improperly registered football players, this bling that Hateley is flashing in your face is ill-gotten.

The Celtic manager, directors and support, together with most others in Scottish football, have to ensure that Fifa rules on the registration of football players is not subverted.

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  2. Paul67

     

    ‘If the First Tier Tribunal report confirms already-made allegations that Rangers improperly registered football players, this bling that Hateley is flashing in your face is ill-gotten.

     

     

    The Celtic manager, directors and support, together with most others in Scottish football, have to ensure that Fifa rules on the registration of football players is not subverted.’

     

     

    Now I know what you meant by ‘uttering’

     

     

    Christmas every day…

     

     

    HH

  3. Winston Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish Bergkamp Thomas Burns Gemmell

     

     

    The cherry on my ice cream and jelly!

     

     

    (can you get green cherries?)

  4. Phil MacGiollaBhain ‏ @Pmacgiollabhain Reply Retweet Favorite · Open

     

    A hypothetical one for you legal types. If someone knowingly provides false documentation to a Tax Tribunal is that very naughty?

  5. optimistic little soldier on

    He’s the Motherwell Born Billionaire

     

    With googly eyes and quaffed hair

     

    He bought the huns for a pound

     

    Ran them into the ground

     

    Now FollowFollow.com’s going spare!

  6. Having just seen who wolves have appointed as manager (who?) it would be interesting to know just how far down the list Walter smith was. Good luck to the new guy, he may surprise a few but he’s gonna need a bit of good fortune.

     

     

    Looking forward to the game tomorrow, any one got any info on the fitness of the recent signings? Think it would be good to give a couple of them some game time seeing as the league is all but over

  7. Declan Is Neil Lennon 1888 Hates being 2nd on

    hector – am no a grass. all i am saying is you dont know who is listening on the blog. using a probationed word can land you in hot muck these days. i dont want to see any fellow tims in bother with the cops. thats all i am saying. also a wee word of advice. you hvae spelled please wrong. makes your post sound a bit daft as you hvae done it twice. we are talking about fitba here not gardeners

     

     

    hail hail

  8. long time lurker, i had saved this marked do not open until May but what the hell!!!

     

     

     

    1. By Mark Hateley on Oct 6, 11 06:27 AM in old firm

     

    GUY FAWKES NIGHT falls on a Saturday this year. But the real fireworks will begin the very next day.

     

    Remember, remember the sixth of November, folks, because it might just be the most important day in the fledgling careers of Neil Lennon and Alistair McCoist.As things stand, my old Ibrox team-mate can be satisfied with the start he has made to his first campaign in charge.He has suffered massive setbacks in Europe and the League Cup but has reacted well to these difficult situations and now, with the SPL going into shutdown for a while, he’s sitting pretty at the top of the table.

     

    He’s more than a quarter of the way through his first campaign and has already opened up a 10-point gap on his nemesis from across the city. Alistair could not have wished to be better placed at the moment.The question now is where do we go from here? And every time I look at the next raft of fixtures my mind races forward to November 6 at Fir Park because by then the whole direction of this year’s title fight will have become a lot clearer.Motherwell away. This might be the game that makes or breaks the rest of Celtic’s season – and, for that matter, Lennon’s reputation as a manager.By the time this one is over I suggest we’ll either have a genuine two-way battle for supremacy or Lennon will be facing up to the kind of crisis which even Old Firm managers of far greater experience generally find very difficult to survive.Yes, there are games to be played before then. Rangers start back with St Mirren at home and also face difficult trips to Pittodrie and Tynecastle later this month. Then, on bonfire night, they entertain Dundee United.I predict right now that Rangers will take 12 points from these four games. I’d even go as far as to say I wouldn’t be surprised if they even rattled off another four clean sheets because right now they have one of the best defensive records in all of European football.They might not be playing as expansively as Alistair would like at the moment – it’s almost coming in fits and starts – but we know these Rangers players can find another couple of gears.And when they do, as has been proved in the past, they are capable of doing teams by five or six goals.To that end, I think Rangers will be looking forward to the next few games.McCoist will see these fixtures as a chance for his side to really start to build some serious momentum and get back towards top form.But for Lennon? I’m not sure if he’ll be relishing the prospect or dreading it. He will spend the next few days worried sick about the level of performances he has been getting from his side.Lennon has been in charge for over a year but he’ll have to ask himself what has he learned about his players in that time? Because they are tripping up thanks to the same old failings and that does not reflect well on the man at the top. Whatever he has learned during his time in charge he is not using it to his team’s advantage. It’s a manager’s job to correct the faults as you find them and to take the good parts and make them better. But Celtic’s boss appears to be doing neither.His players lack fight, spirit and cohesion, his defence is a disaster zone and in Daniel Majstorovic he has a player who simply cannot be trusted to take any kind of personal responsibility.For anything.Every time he makes a mistake and it costs his side a goal the big Swede can be found shouting and bawling at his team-mates and trying to blame them for his blunder. That tells you everything about the guy’s character and I’ve seen more than enough.If I were Lennon, I’d chase him out.Donkey But there is every chance Majstorovic will be back in the thick of it when Celtic resume at Kilmarnock and if he is, then I’m not sure Lennon will get out of Rugby Park with a win.The 10-point gap could quickly become a 12 or 13-point deficit and the pressure will crank up accordingly.But if Lennon has the good sense to drop this dead donkey then I can see Celtic edging it in Ayrshire and then going on a bit of a run.I’d certainly fancy them to win their next two matches after Killie at home to Aberdeen and Hibs.The question then is, what happens when they head to Motherwell on November 6? And what if Stuart McCall’s side – in second place right now – are still up there in the mix when Lennon and his players come to town? The nightmare scenario for Celtic would be leaving Fir Park not only as a beaten side but also trailing Motherwell in third place with Rangers disappearing over the horizon, having opened up a gap of between 13 to 16 points.I’m not sure Lennon could survive something as brutal as that.But, by the same token, if Celtic go to Motherwell and churn out a third or fourth consecutive win then it’s very much a case of game on.Even if they have not cut the gap they will still have sent out a message that they are through the worst of it and that their manager has them back on track and ready to go the distance again.Yes, remember, remember the sixth of November. On that day all of Scottish football can light the blue and green touch paper and stand well back.

     

    As told to Keith Jackson

  9. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    cavansam \o/ says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 12:14

     

     

    Minty, Bain, Mc Intyre, Johnston, Smith, Whyte …. all wanted Rangers 1873 to go into liquidation. Taxman is then stuffed. Newco allows them to at least keep Ibrox and Murray Park and Sir David does not have to face any tax evasion charges. Whyte as always made more of the opportunity that was already presented to him, that became clearer when he dismissed Bain for extravagant spending … in an attempt to steer hun FC onto the iceberg. Even clearer when Bain wanted his wage and pronto like …. along with McIntyre

     

     

    Hail Hail

  10. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    soup of the day @ ibrokes :

     

     

    administrone.

     

     

    if it comes too chunky, you can ask to have it liquidated.

     

     

    PC67

  11. HECTOR - Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Eating Jelly & Ice Cream. on

    Neil will be asked in today’s press conference about Hatefuds remarks.

     

     

    Any Q’s should be rebuffed with hilarity and laughter and a “next question please muppets?” retort.

     

     

    MWD

  12. The Gate In The Wood – Episode 28

     

     

     

    Lured by the prospect of some quality love time with blouse-bursting bank beauty, Boynita, WG finds himself entrapped and facing the First Degree in Lodge Novo, Kilmarnock.

     

     

     

    RWM: Divest the candidate of all secular clothing – yes, even the Arsenal boxer shorts with the unsightly stain on the rear.

     

     

    Dougal Stuart: Task completed, Your Supreme Raider of Tabernacles.

     

     

    RWM: Divest the candidate of all metal including his Claddagh ring, Celtic crest pendant, cannon earring and that nipple thingy.

     

     

    Curry McMichael: Task completed, Your Ultimate Geometric Wizard of Translucent Carrots.

     

     

    RWM: Hoodwink the candidate.

     

     

    DS: The candidate has been thrust into darkness, Your Most Worthy Collector of Speckled Pebbles.

     

     

    RWM: Bind the candidate. Make his stay short.

     

     

    CMcM: The candidate has been bound with the fraternal ties of The Craft. He is neither barefoot nor slipshod, his breast is bared, his noose is fixed.

     

     

    RWM: Lead the candidate to the Northeast corner of The temple.

     

     

    WG: Is that where The Green Brigade sit ?

     

     

    RWM: The candidate will maintain silence until questioned and will pay due respect to the dignified rite of initiation.

     

     

    Tyler: The candidate is at Point North East of The Temple and awaits interrogation.

     

     

    RWM: Winston Bergkamp Gemmell, do you come here of your own free will and as a free man ?

     

     

    WG: Of course Ah don’t and yis better no huv chinged the tune on ma mobile phone.

     

     

    RWM: I’ll take that as a ‘Yes’. Secondly, Winston Bergkamp Gemmell, what do you seek ?

     

     

    WG: Three-In-A-Row as a minimum

     

     

    RWM: No Mr Gemmell, you seek LIGHT. Your persistent failure to comply with this august rite of initiation to the First Degree of Entered Apprentice leaves me with no option but to employ a proxy. As befits an orderly and presently formed Lodge I now seek a proxy for Mr Gemmell. Said Brother may not be Gemmell’s proposer or seconder. Who will come to the aid of this blind and bound cowan-in-distress ?

     

     

    Voice: I will, worshipful Master.

     

     

    RWM: Identify yourself, Brother.

     

     

    Voice: It is I, Bwother Fergus Awexanderson, being of good standing in Wodge Twafford, Wancashire 1968. I wiwwingwy vowunteer to be the pwoxy.

     

     

    WG: Good God in Govan !

  13. If the Huns did get docked points for every ineligible player (3-0) defeat or whatever, and finished each season last with 0-ish points.

     

     

    Would they then be due compo to all the teams they finished above during these seasons? Obviously there would be hee haw chance of seeing a penny, but they must be due us some cash given that they would have pocketed the financial rewards for finishing 1st, 2nd or 3rd during this period?

     

     

    BF

  14. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    cavansam \o/ says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 12:14

     

     

    What happens now ?

     

     

    Well according to the smart lads on here … possibly years of legal wrangling

     

     

    with hun fc plc, Ibrox, Murray park in Limbo

     

     

    Hail Hail

  15. Paul another excellent article which speaks for all celtic fans We dont need no stinkin ten points……..we pay our taxes and PAYE we dont do financial doping at celtic Integrity is what we ask for and a level playing field for all Hail Hail

  16. Taking of trunchcoats, the other day ,I saw a dodgy looking

     

    guy in a trunchcoat following a female member of staff,up the aisles

     

    of the local Asda.

  17. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    philvisreturns says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 11:59

     

     

    When you mentioned muppet and Walter, I was thinking you were talking about somebody else, until you mentioned being brought up by humans :-)

     

     

    Declan-keep spelling and telling it the way it is.

     

     

    Bhoys- How is the helpahun fund coming along. Have we got it over £10m yet?

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  18. HECTOR - Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Eating Jelly & Ice Cream. on

    Decy

     

     

    Fanks fur that. I’m so happy that you are looking out for our bodily fluids running freely.

     

     

    Fanks to for the spell check. I wouldn’t like to be cumin acrossed wae that daft germ.

     

     

    MWD

  19. i dithered with the whole “would it put rangers more in the grubber if motherwell win tomorrow?” question…

     

     

    then i realised…

     

     

    rangers won’t be around in may…

     

     

    motherwell would finish above them anyway…

     

     

    even if motherwell finish third, rangers won’t get a european licence as they’ll be in admin or deid come rangers’ fools day in april, and…

     

     

    what sort of eejit wants his team to lose?

     

     

    so..

     

     

    stuff the mothers tomorrow celtic. 4-0 will do nicely.

  20. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    Paul67

     

     

    I worked in the newspaper industry for a few, most enjoyable years, in my youth.

     

     

    I remember in those days their were footballers who “wrote” columns in the weekend editions.

     

     

    I can also remember that they used to phone into the office before papers hit the streets to find out what their article was about!

     

     

    Now, some of these guys were numpties and couldn’t string two sensible words together at the best of times.

     

     

    The point I am making is that I believe that practice continues and that it is actually the newspapers views that are being published.

     

     

    They just use a diddy to pin the article to and have him/her claim it’s their view.

     

     

    And the diddies are queuing up to to get their next 30 seconds of fame.

     

     

    Hell mend them.

  21. Just back from a wee visit to RTC anyone seen phil Macs Tweet or whatever you call them at 12.07 a hypothetical Hmmmmmm

     

    HAIL HAIL

  22. Paul67: “The coup-de-grace from Hateley was… Does anyone believe Rangers would have won three leagues had they paid their tax instead of singing [sic] Jelavic, Lafferty, Davis, Edu, Naismith or Bougherra?

     

     

    I think this guy is missing the point. If the First Tier Tribunal report confirms already-made allegations that Rangers improperly registered football players, this bling that Hateley is flashing in your face is ill-gotten.”

     

     

    I think this guy is missing an even bigger point…

     

     

    Had Rangers been transacting all their player signings and paying those in an entirely transparent, legal and ethical way, would Hateley (Gascoigne, Laudrup, De Boer, etc.) have ever signed for them and helped them to their (tainted) 9 in a row?

     

     

    I know the reports have been suggesting that Rangers’ financial irregularities took place between 2001 and 2010, but does anyone believe that they could really afford guys like that on the income from Scottish football?

  23. Paul 67

     

     

    Spot on –

     

     

    Lazy, arrogant double-standards from the red-neck good ‘ole boys of scottish football.

     

    Hell mend them.

  24. Mark Hately,,

     

    Better to close your mouth,and have the world think you a fool,

     

    than to open it and confirm the fact.

  25. Declan Is Neil Lennon 1888 Hates being 2nd says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 12:04

     

    you guys also need to realise that the word hun is probationed now. you cant call somebody a hun anymore you never know who is listening to this blog so be careful what you say.

     

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    No it is not – more B/S. more Hunnish crap.

  26. ArranmoreBhoyLXV11 on

    The joyous observation re Hateley is the amount of pain he s in.. Fantastic .. Did he not return to Rangers? Ergo he’s played and had many contracts there!!

     

     

    I’d keep a low profile if in his shoes..

     

     

    HMRC may ask some questions.

     

     

    HH

  27. Apologies, but it is always good to read Declan, the Seer’s Seer.

     

     

     

     

     

    tomtheleedstim says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 12:00

     

     

    I’m crestfallen (not crest broken like the huns) that no-one got my gag about Mud.

     

    I thought it was hilarious.

     

     

    IguessyouhadtobethereCSC

     

    share

     

     

    *******

     

     

    Throw it in again and see if some of it sticks this time.

     

    share

  28. philhoopylogue-thebighouseofpain on

    Yon Charles Patterson On Sky is either one of they very smiley people or a happy Tim or both. Every time he’s reporting on the huns demise he looks like he’s gonna burst out laughing. Very enjoyable tv.

  29. BlantyreKev - Parcel=> on

    So the £4m ring fenced by HMRC was set against the Ticketus VAT debt and not the wee tax case.

     

     

    Hmmmm. Why would that be? It can only be about debt recovery.

     

     

    Anyone smelling a personal liability claim on the ex directors?

     

     

    Had the wee tax case debt been extinguished it could no longer be pursued. If Rangers go pop the Ticketus deal vat would fall as bad, and Ticketus will rightly reclaim it. I imagine the chance of recovery from Whyte will have been assessed as slightly less than nil.

     

     

    There has to be a reason they have set it against the Ticketus VAT and not the wee tax case, this is the most plausible as I can think at the moment.

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