Scot Gov minister cheap attack on Celtic fans


You know what happened.  Celtic fans celebrated our league win in the city centre on Saturday.  In contrast to the carnage that visited the city a year earlier, there were no serious incidents and, by Police Scotland’s own statement, there were only minor issues to deal with.  Forget the facts, that’s not the impression some people want to give the world about Celtic fans.

We can speculate that the Herald/Times journalist who yesterday wrote on Twitter, “Glasgow’s city centre has been left in a total state this morning. Broken glass, cans rubbish all over the place. It’s worse than my pics can show” was motivated to a specific end.

The four photos which accompanied his Tweet showed overwhelmingly tidy streets.  Streets that appear tidier than on any average Sunday morning.  As far as smear attempts go, this one was laughable.  If you cannot find photos of “rubbish all over the place”, don’t put photos up showing the opposite!

A year ago, Scottish Government minister, Patrick Harvie, criticised Newco fans for their trashing of Glasgow and received the kind of backlash you would expect.  Like a self-seeking politician, he was itching to show equivalence yesterday.

Responding to the laughable Tweet showing tidy streets, Harvie, declared, “I don’t care which football team wins anything, or whether someone else behaved worse last time or not. Trashing the city centre, and other behaviour I saw yesterday, is unacceptable. Show some respect for your city and the people you share it with.”

This was a deliberate attack on you and me by a government minister to satisfy his own ends.  Harvie and his cabal are not even ‘green’ in the political sense.  He publicly celebrated his First Minister buddy when she failed to call on the Westminster government to scrap the Cambo oil field.

Harvie even went after Greenpeace, when they had the temerity to criticise the Scottish First Minister, surely a unique moment in ‘green’ politics.  If he cannot convince Greenpeace of his green credentials, you have to wonder what his motivations are (note: it appears to be transgender politics).

A deliberate act of throwing Celtic fans reputation under the bus without any justification is appalling behaviour for a government that should always act impartially, not seek false equivalence.  Celtic fans will no longer sit back and be abused like this by a low-rent ideologue.

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  1. IniquitousIV on



    I wouldn’t bet on it. Started out with no points and no goals in 3 games, dead last, had lots of injuries, including KT, yet finishes fifth. Not too bad.

  2. Terrific performance by Eddie Howe at Newcastle.Transformed everything about the team.Arsenal,too easy beaten.KT might be off now.

  3. Turkeybhoy at 9:03



    We appear to agree on more than you think.



    CJ was indeed a very good CH before his injury.


    Ange chose a very good CH pairing this season.


    We have poor quality back up at CH.


    All agreed.



    I would disagree about whether Ange should come out in public to denounce stupid rumours that circulate in the media about any player. Ange has said nothing detrimental about CJ, that I’m aware of. I don’t think Ange needs to explain or justify his team selection. 🤷‍♂️



    Ange HAS stated that he prefers continuity in team selection at the CH position. In his 4-3-3 formation, Ange asks the midfield & forward players to exert more energy compared to his CH’s. So he seems to prefer to sub/rotate the players in the forward positions. Ange has stated this in the media.



    As regards to why Jullien doesn’t get a place on the bench; I believe Jullien explained this himself – in his recent interview – when he said the new manager seems to prefer to have CH cover on the bench by a player who also can cover centre midfield (referring to Bitton, I believe).


    This would suggest why Ange fills most of the bench with forward players if possible, and maybe only 1 CH. It sort of makes sense if Ange wants to use his 5 subs to replace the constantly running forward players. He wants forwards on the bench primarily.


    So, that may explain why Jullien has seen limited bench time. I think he’s bench on the bench mostly in games were 9 subs are permitted?



    Also, bear in mind that Starfelt and Carter-Vickers have had no serious injuries to contend with this season. If either was out injured for a lengthy spell, I’m sure we would have seen more of CJ (even if only on the bench more often).



    You seem very miffed with the unsubstantiated rumours about CJ. I tend to ignore them. I think Ange chooses to ignore them too, rather than give them credence by even discussing them in public. Who knows?




  4. CJ — Not quite getting all the luv.



    He played a good bit of the NL inspired 20/21 shambles.


    He was no stand out keeping a troubled team together in stormy waters.


    Looked as lost as most of the rest of the team.



    On edge all the time looking shaky — never ever looking like the senior pro we needed..


    SD was another who looked as if he was spending too much time with his X-Box.



    If CJ manages to settle down and play to his strengths then he will have more years at the top.


    If he has lost his focus and his desire then he will join the JS’s and FB’s of our recent past.



    Consequently if he moves on it will be interesting to see what kind of CJ turns up at his next club?

  5. The 17 year old kid playing for Blackpool who has told the world he is Gay,good on him.


    Have to say though,he is the oldest 17 year old I have ever seen.

  6. Call me Gerry,



    We do have one big disagreement,and this is my big problem.


    The way things have been going,I, personally think that Ange should now come out and comment on Julliens future with the club.You just have to look on here to see the rumours,innuendo,circling about.Doing no one any favors.Jullienn,maybe looking for a new club,ourselves trying to sell him.


    Like everyone else,if we get in better,I will be delighted,like every other position.

  7. On Leaving Celtic Park on Saturday, and there was still people mingling on the pitch


    I met friends outside the shop, got photos around the champions signs etc


    My family and friends proceeded to walk along the front of the executive car park


    (Players and family use this car park)



    The gates were still closed as still to many people around


    Siting right in front of the gates, 1st car awaiting to get out


    Chris Jullien, in his big black GLC Mercedes’



    Must have been desperate to get away from his fellow players celebrating


    He knew what would be planned for that day, and an early kick off


    Maybe just me 🤔


    Good riddance to him

  8. quadrophenian on

    Thanks for sharing this poignant piece from BRTH – lovely stuff.



    BOGNORBHOY on 16TH MAY 2022 2:16 PM


    lifted from etims…







    And I leave you with this, a summary of Saturday lifted shamelesssly from Sentinel Celts, written by Brogan Rogan Trevino…. which I think sums our club and our support up beautifully…despite what those nasty reporters say….





    Romeo Erwin Marius Castelen has seen a few things in football. The former Dutch International has taken to the field for clubs such as Feyenoord, Hamburg and the Western Sydney Wanderers amongst others and yesterday he found himself and the beautiful suit he was wearing seated next to an equally stylish Italian ….and my sister.







    “Who is the beautiful, stylish and very charismatic man sitting next to me?” my sister asked.







    “I’m your fucking brother!” I told the recently retired halfwit sister before catching on that she actually didn’t mean me!







    Meanwhile, the beautiful Romeo was oblivious to this idiotic exchange as he was too busy filming the crowd, the stadium and muttering “unbelievable” to himself over and over again!







    Despite hanging up his boots a good few years ago, Romeo looks as if he could still play but these days he has to content himself with being an agent and his beautiful grin got even wider when his latest client scored with an overhead kick.







    “Unbelievable” Romeo said yet again and not long after he and his beautiful suit were doing the huddle as if it was the most natural thing in the world!







    Immediately in front of me an older man and his pony tailed wife were also filming while sporting smiles wider than the Sahara desert. These were the parents of João Pedro Neves Filipe and both wore shirts which simply said “Jota” on the back. They too huddled as if there would be no tomorrow!







    I have often said that strange things happen at Celtic Park and that for some it is a place where they find their soul, their sense of being, and that inner thing that takes you through life.







    Nir Bitton cried while giving an interview this week, Tom Rogic couldn’t walk from the centre of the pitch to the dug out without crying yesterday and in the stands thousands of us found that we had to inexplicably wipe something from our eyes.







    The beautiful Romeo saw this first hand and stood with his mouth open before saying “unbelievable” for about the sixty fifty time.







    Yesterday I saw several strange things at Celtic Park. Wee things, on the face of it, casual and unremarkable things, but things which, I believe, are hugely important and significant.







    I watched as each and every player and member of the Celtic coaching staff eagerly grasped the outstretched hand of the club CEO and exchanged not only warm words but a significant hug from the man at the top of the club. I had never seen that happen before.







    The hug exchanged between Nicholson and the man from Australia lasted only fractionally longer than the lengthy hug exchanged with the club captain and it was very clear that there is a significant relationship between the three.







    I never witnessed anything like that during the Lawwell years.







    I watched the entire coaching staff gather for a photograph with the trophy and here again it was obvious that this was a group who were a team amongst themselves and who were more than content with whatever it is that Celtic brings to the inner soul. I had never seen that before.







    Yet I also saw a forlorn Christopher Julien walk around the pitch – a man alone, divorced from any smiling group – while taking pictures in such a way that you just know he will never experience days like yesterday again.







    His demeanour was in stark contrast to all around him and you could sense the sadness which seemed to seep from his every pour. Maybe he has a regret or two to overcome?







    As I watched him Mark Crosas came to mind. The Spanish player didn’t stay at Celtic Park for too long, yet recently he stated that his time in the hoops changed his life forever as the club and all it means, on the pitch and off, grabbed his soul and never let go.







    Hopefully, Chris Julien, will feel that way too one day.







    At full time, a young man to my right pulled out his phone and dialled a number which would make another phone ring some 3,400 miles away. The caller had come from downtown Burbank Los Angeles just to see Celtic lift the trophy. He usually jumps into his car at around 4:00am and drives for 40 minutes to a pub to see home games and is normally joined by another 150 or so Celtic fans.







    This time though his call was to London Ontario and when the call was answered he could barely hear his 91 year old grandfather at the end of the line. The old man had been watching the game somehow or other and had taken in the vibe within the stadium where he used to be a ballboy back in the 1940’s!







    Imagine that! A grown man from LA calling “Gramps” in Canada on speed dial to celebrate the exploits of an Australian, some Japanese, a Greek and various others in the east end of Glasgow.







    It was a call that crossed oceans and generations.







    Unbelievable – as Romeo would say!







    Most of us have never come close to playing for Celtic or participating on the pitch in any way.







    Yet for us too, the club, the ground and all it means has invaded our souls and will never let go. Somewhere above, Fraser points out that Celtic is more than a club, more than a sporting body, or a company, or a group of players or anything like that.







    It is something I can’t quite find the words to describe.







    But sitting with friend and stranger alike yesterday I came away with the feeling that we all belonged – no matter where we were from or what age you were or whatever your background was.







    Several times I wiped away a tear as I watched people exchange hugs, smiles, handshakes and words of affection and appreciation. This is what it means to be Celtic I thought – and I stood there and I believed. I will always believe.







    And I think even Romeo now believes!

  9. quadrophenian on

    TURKEYBHOY from a while back…



    ‘My fear,and should be everyone else’s,is that CCV walks,and we are left scrabbling around for a top class CH,that we cannot afford,unless we get lucky.


    Jullien every right to be angry,he was a senior member of our squad.’






    That Big Chris is or was a good player is not in dispute by the majority of fans on here.


    But take your quote above and apply it to Tony Ralston, who watched Frimpong, Gamboa and Toljan swan in and marginalise him. Did Tony publicly seethe, agitate and bitch to meeja about his puzzlement at being picked…? Same for young Welshy…


    IMO, big Chris seems to have an entitled ego issue that makes it more about him than it is about being a team player. Would love to see him recover and improve on his old form and dispose either Cam or Carl on that basis alone. In AngeWorld, it’s not about being a billy bigbaws; it’s about supporting the common good.


    CJ may just believe he’s too uncommonly good not to play.


    Let’s hope he plays his way back into Ange’s favour or generates us a decent transfer fee soon.



  10. Those supposedly ‘in the know’ who spread the tripe about John Kennedy & Gavin Strachan, have been put firmly back in their box by Ange. It is a lie and it always was.



    These are, most likely, the same ‘usual suspects’ who peddle the “Celtic are ‘hand in glove’ with Ibrox”, and Dermot, Peter Lawwell, and “the board suits are the enemy of Celtic” fairy tales.



    They know almost everything they is not true – so why do they say it? Simply because they want it to be true – it is essential to their agenda.



    What next – connecting Peter Lawwell to the corruption and cover-up of the £250m & counting farce in Holyrood & Port Glasgow?

  11. ernie lynch on 16th May 2022 6:54 pm



    SCULLYBHOY on 16TH MAY 2022 6:24 PM





    ‘When is a Unionist not a Unionist in the context of the UK?’






    Now answer the question without insulting those who might happen to disagree with you, or do you want the discussion over / penalty shoot out before the game / before any debate takes place?

  12. JHB on 16th May 2022 11:48 pm



    They know almost everything they is not true – so why do they say it? Simply because they want it to be true – it is essential to their agenda.






    Freudian slip there?



    Scrap the protocol CSC

  13. So the question must be asked – what was our “Messiah” Dominic doing when Peter Lawwell was phoning Ange? I don’t know, probably no one outside the Celtic Park ‘inner sactum’ does….so the next question must be – why was he hailed by some as the Messiah? I think any reasonable person with a clear mind will probably be able to make a good guess.

  14. Jimmybeĺsworms



    Was he not awaiting an existential crisis.


    Just so you craven unionist scum could pursue your ancient narrative of child abuse.


    Your a handy shill,


    Spenser was honest in his spitting racism 500 year ago,and laughably you think your being snide



    Unionist narrative invention/inference “messiah”



    Box a false narrative in,then ask a question based on that false narrative,as tho that narrative or inference has any truth.



    (check out 1st question ange fri presser)



    Tams unwritten narratives and inferences,innuendo and conjecture,speculating wildly


    All ably backed by unsourced links.



    We know what your interested in vermin.


    And it’s not the betterment of Celtic.

  15. QUADROPHENIAN @ 11:16 PM,



    Great piece from BRT&H…



    JHB @ 1:48 AM,



    Well as you are a bit late to the party you can be forgiven for looking so naive.



    To say Peter Lawwell has “form” on this would be a huge understatement. Just ask the Res12 ghuys, the Celtic Underground or look at the way Alison McConnell was utilised during the Brendan Rodgers’ departure.



    There are a multitude of examples of PL leading folk up the garden path.



    Ask yourself this – why did this story of events around AP come to light now?



    Also what was Dominic McKay doing when PL was on the phone to Ange?



    Now look at some facts:-



    The Neil Lennon and Eddie Howe farce came under PL’s watch, Ange’s recruitment came under DMcK’s



    DD makes the decision about managers, he has done since the turn of the century, he has left it to the CEO on some occasions – Tony Mowbray, Lenny and Ronny Delia to be precise – DD made the Ange call, like he did with MO’N and BR



    Ange and DMcK, in quick order, under difficult circumstances, managed to turn around PL’s failure, our best summer transfer window in living memory



    It is said that Mark Lawwell was the one who put Ange forward over three years ago…



    Why then if PL was so certain about Ange (whose been desperate to come to Europe) did it take three years of disaster and a managerial vacuum to bring him in



    What was the conversation between Lawwell and Lawwell junior…



    Listen dad, we’ve got this great manager at City Group, he’s outstanding, we rate him very highly, why don’t you come and poach him from us…



    Doesn’t add up does it?



    Don’t believe the hype



    Hail Hail

  16. fourstonecoppi on

    So if the currents win on wed night it eclipses ‘The Lions’?????? according to the chip papers


    Boyd was better than Henrik????????according to the chip papers.



    Dearie dearie me!




  17. Tom McLaughlin on



    DD made the Ange call.





    Mark Lawwell brought Ange to PL’s attention in 2018. PL kept an eye on Ange’s progress.



    When Howe walked away, PL phoned Ange and introduced the idea of him potentially moving to Celtic. Ange was enthusiastic.



    PL spoke to DD. They had a shortlist of candidates. DD phoned Ange and afterwards he told PL to forget the other candidates.



    Yes, DD had the final say, but it was PL who initiated Ange’s move to Paradise.


    This has been well documented recently.

  18. TOM MCLAUGHLIN @ 7:49 AM,



    A couple a things…



    I don’t believe any of the Lawwell hype and for good reason.



    If you are going to comment on my posts – and thanks for doing so – maybe you could read them first, I’ve alrwady addressed the issues you raise in it.



    Maybe you could also read your’s while your at it…



    DD phoned Ange and afterwards he told PL to forget the other candidates.



    What does that mean?



    It means DD made the decision… Right






    So not wrong



    Have a good one



    Hail Hail

  19. Tom McLaughlin on




    You don’t believe the PL hype.



    So according to you, PL told lies when he said his son told him about Ange in 2018 and that after the Howe deal collapsed, he told the board and DD about Ange. He told these lies, sure in the knowledge that nobody would contradict him and expose his lies.



    Did he put a gun to several heads and warn them what would happen if they spilled the beans?



    How does that work?

  20. Tom McLaughlin on

    DD always makes the final decision on managers, but it was PL who brought Ange to the table.

  21. TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 17TH MAY 2022 8:08 AM



    Peter Lawwell doesn’t tell lies.



    Just ask any of the Res 12 guys.

  22. A prominent poster on here ,and a man in the know.


    Told me ,very early in the process that PL thought Eddie Howe was stringing us along.


    That he had dead eyes when he was shown videos of Celtic beating Barca ,and the home support .



    This was months before Eddie shat on us.



    PL ,from a very early stage was looking at alternatives.


    Anje ,being one of them.




  23. SCULLYBHOY on 16TH MAY 2022 11:48 PM



    ‘When is a Unionist not a Unionist in the context of the UK?’














    Now answer the question









    A good starting point would be to consider when, and in what context, the word ‘Unionist’ entered the political lexicon in the UK. And what it meant. It was a specific term of art.



    I won’t insult you by answering those questions for you.



    You have access to the internet, so you can research the issue by yourself.



    Let me know what you find out and then we can discuss the matter further, hopefully on a more informed and constuctive basis than at present.

  24. Personally I think CCV next season will end up playing in the Premiership,Celtic can’t afford what some teams are preferred to pay him ,Players like him come on loan to clubs like Celtic very seldom they sign permanently,to me that’s the case with CCV ,Newcastle,West Ham ,Leicester,will sign him ,money talks.

  25. TINYTIM @ 8:19 AM,



    I’m not disputing that, I heard Ange’s name come up several times before in relation to the Celtic position, an outsider yes, but it was banded about.



    Ange acknowledges it himself when discussing his ambition to get to Europe.



    However he stated he thought in May 2021 that he was going to AEK Athens.



    That fell through around the same time as the Eddie Howe to Celtic move fell through.



    Ange was then approached by his London agent in connection to the Celtic job.



    If he was the fall back position, then not being aware of Celtic’s interest and ready to take the AEK Athens job does not sound like the greatest fall back position.



    I could well believe that PL knew of Ange in 2018.



    The fact remains it was a quick series of serendipitous events at the beginning of June 2021 that brought him to Celtic – not considered pre-planning by our Board.



    Hope all’s good…



    Hail Hail

  26. CALL ME GERRY on 16TH MAY 2022 10:02 PM



    A fine post.



    ERNIE LYNCH on 17TH MAY 2022 8:16 AM



    Not such a fine post ( and PLEASE don`t come back asking if I thought PL lied re Res 12).

  27. TOM MCLAUGHLIN @ 8:08 AM,



    Please see my reply to TinyTim.



    What is true and what is hype who knows, but asked yourself this, if Ange had bombed and was out by Christmas, do you think you’d be reading this PL account of Ange coming to Celtic?



    Read Ange’s account, it is much more real.



    Remember Lenny’s career at Celtic was dead in the water by Christmas 2020 – what transpired between that time and Ange coming in on the middle of June 2021 was an absolute shambles and no amount of revisionism will change that.



    Remember Ange didn’t even have a licence to work in Scotland.



    It was all knee jerk after thought and unlike Ronny Delia we seem to have got a way with it this time.



    Don’t believe the hype



    Hail Hail

  28. ERNIE,



    I’ve been reading your debate about Unionism and Boris and The EU…



    My thought were what was the Irish Republician, Democrat American President making of it.



    Hail Hail