If you want to criticise Celtic for taking a January holiday while the country suffers and you have been stuck at home for 10 months, go for it, there’s acres of space below. The football bubble is difficult to reconcile when people are currently falling ill and dying in such numbers, the optics are poor; Celtic, really?
But if you are responsible for setting the rules of the football bubble, like the Scottish Government are, you are responsible for what is permitted within that bubble.
If you gave specific permission for Celtic’s trip to Dubai, like the Scottish Government did, you and you alone have no right to issue PR statements of condemnation.
This contrasts with the Scottish Government’s congratulatory comments for Newco after punishing their players who broke bubble rules, a marked contrast to their reaction after Celtic punished Boli Bolingoli.
I get that this Government is a world leader at PR, that their leader appears to spend much of her day preparing and delivering her message of PR brilliance and that they effortlessly dig into Celtic without self-awareness.
And I know this is a lot easier than their day job, like deciding whether to send infected patients to care homes or not, running an education system, controlling a police force who witness sectarian crime without concern, and ensuring NHS hospitals do not have to issue statements of regret after poor cleaning-related deaths.
All this magnificent PR keeps eyes away from how that day job is being performed. Scotland has a death rate higher than all but six countries in the world, including countries run by incompetent fools, like the rest of the UK – who we continue to shadow for inexplicable reasons – and the US.
Your government wants people to talk about Celtic, not look at the death count. The former is embarrassing and the latter is worse only in Peru, Belgium, Italy and three former Yugoslav countries. I am not part of this cult.
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Cosycornerbhoy! 😂! Actually was on way home from work! Quiet so finished early! Cheers
WISHAW TIM
When we’re allowed to socialise eventually, it will be much needed .
oooh can imagine the hangover just now .
Regarding the FM and her anti-Celtic stance , she might be left with egg on her face as the SFA are not taking her requests any further.
As for vaccines and the amount getting done , they are all liars so nothing would surprise me
P8DDY on 6TH JANUARY 2021 11:46 AM
I would be wary of using the evidence of Glasgow to draw conclusions about poverty and mortality rates as there seems to be a consensus that there are factors other than deprivation involved, ‘the Glasgow effect’.
I would agree that the SNP did not invent poverty.
I would though question what measures they have taken to alleviate it.
Furthermore I would suggest that the only political party that has ever done anything to alleviate poverty has been the Labour Party, for all its faults.
Some here were calling for Mick McCarthy as possible replacement for Lenny.
I think Mick is a decent enough Manager,
Well Mick went to Apoel Nicosia & has been sacked this morning after 9 games in charge, they lost last 4 games,
Changing Manager midstream doesn’t always give you the results you want.
new article posted.
MARSPAPA! Can’t wait for a day out ! But beginning to think we will never get out of this ! I know they are all liars, but they should be held to account, especially when we are all losing liberty, jobs being lost schools closed, but every day she gives her party political broadcasts! FFs get the vaccine moving surely it has to be a priority now ! Take care big fella!
ERNIE LYNCH…
I would be wary of using the evidence of Glasgow to draw conclusions about poverty and mortality rates as there seems to be a consensus that there are factors other than deprivation involved, ‘the Glasgow effect’.
You may have a point – causation doesn’t equal correlation. However – the ‘Glasgow effect’ is pretty much entirely made up of drivers and definitions of poverty: low income, poor environmental situation (for example: land/air pollution), poor housing, low access to healthcare, poor diet.
All of these things have happened, historically, under Labour’s historic watch.
I would though question what measures they have taken to alleviate it.
And I would agree with you – but that deviates from why I took Paul67 to task. Paul67’s point was nakedly political and pointed the finger at the SNP for Covid mortality. The SNP haven’t been in power long enough to address the historic issues (not that I particularly expect they will BTW).
The worst thing about Covid is the cynical politicking – the notion that people try to profit off the back of 10’s of thousands of deaths is shameful – especially when it’s done in such an opaque and sneaky way as Paul67 engineered. And it’s not like he doesn’t have form for this.
Furthermore I would suggest that the only political party that has ever done anything to alleviate poverty has been the Labour Party, for all its faults.
Increasing inequality and privatisations would suggest otherwise. For example, Labour privatising IT in Glasgow, in Edinburgh and in the Borders doesn’t strike me as a party trying to reduce poverty. Nor does the many and varied nepotism schemes employed by Labour – for example in Coatbridge and Airdrie. I’d suggest that Labour in Scotland have been a force for evil – enjoying the fruits of, and promoting, sectarianism and inequality.
Maybe things were different back in the day, but ultimately, Labour have done little to address the core issues around inequality and poverty – the drop in Child poverty during the Blair years is to be lauded, but it was little more than window dressing – because it didn’t tackle the structural issues, and income inequality rose under their watch. The average worker in the UK has increased their productivity by more than 200% since the 70’s, yet in that time there has been a constant drip drip drip erosion of unions and workers rights. And at the same time earnings at that level have stagnated whilst earnings at boardroom level have sky rocketed.
In the 80’s 7% of the people controlled 87% of the wealth. That figure has gotten worse, not better. Shamefully, the wealthiest 5 families in the UK have more money than the bottom 20% of the population. 5 families with more money than the poorest 13million. It’s appalling. And ALL parties have failed in that regard. Each and every one. Debating who’s best is like two bald men fighting over a comb.
The overarching discussion here with you would be awesome in any social situation btw…. it’s an interesting and nuanced debate. Also probably a shouty one! ;)
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Haven’t read all the posts but it seems like TET & James Forrest are in BIG discussions with all and sundry. Lots of hits, good for Paul67’s blog. Thank you Paul67, James and TET
Now for the Dubai trip. How many of our Celtiic players been under pressure for 4 years to continue winning trophies evey time and not allowed ONE defeat in that time. That is pressure!
Well done bhoys enjoy your pint you deserve it, come back refreshed, fit and rairing to go put some pressure on the currants.
Celtic getting pelters for going to Dubai for training, can you guys around Dunblane get some photos of Andy Murray training before he goes to Australia to show what we should be doing.
Have The Rangers International plc complained about one of their players being blatently manhandled by one of the SFA officials yet, maybe I missed that in the SMSM ;-))
SPIKEYSAULDMAN on 6TH JANUARY 2021 10:20 AM
“like The Exiled Tim I’m wondering/questioning/NOT DISSING what this vaccine is all about”
SPIKEYSAULDMAN I think the Exiled Tim went beyond questoning and wondering. These two states are always worth nursing but bad science has no place in our responses.
“it doesnt make you immune” – in the vast majority of cases it will. But there will be a few where it will not. Vaccine scientists admit that.
“you can possibly catch it a second time” – you can’t catch it a second time if the vaccine has done it’s job on you.
“you can pass it on even when vaccinated” – vaccine scientists admit that likelihood and mask wearing should not be abandoned immediately after being vaccinated. Normality can only resume with herd immunity, i.e. when enough people have been vaccinated.
“its being claimed that it may stop you getting severe covid – if not covid” – the vaccine will stop the virus replicating and you will not suffer from the results of that -mild or severe covid.
Of course everyone can raise questions about the efficacy of the vaccine based on the speed of its development and the involvement of big pharma and their distrust of politicians. But they should also consider 1. Its development has involved companies who are not part of big pharma, 2. scientific cooperation reached unprecedented levels, 3. governments put in huge amounts of money, 4. we still have a functioning (if not ideal) democratic system and governments can be kicked out if we think they’ve not done a good job.
Most things in medicine involve a cost–benefit analysis and include some degree of uncertainty but ultimately you have to make a choice. I was diagnosed with cancer 6 years ago. I sought conventional treatment. It wasn’t pleasant and success was never guaranteed. But here I am posting on CQN and mostly enjoying it if not our season so far.