Yesterday’s result at Ibrox gave some welcome encouragement but it would be wrong to read too much into it. Rangers still have the kind of lead that would have Celtic thoroughly confident of a league win and, lest we forget, St Johnstone collected all three points from Celtic Park already this season.
The win at Inverness was much more important. The Highlanders are bottom of the league but that is a false position. Two points separate Hibs, Dunfermline, Aberdeen and Inverness, while Kilmarnock, who shipped six goals to Inverness at home two weeks ago, are only a further two points away. Even with 10 men Inverness remained well organised yesterday, don’t be surprised if they move ahead of the four teams above them in the weeks to come.
The league is remarkably tight from fourth place St Johnstone to bottom Inverness, where fewer points separate the teams than split Celtic and Rangers. Don’t, therefore, be surprised if points are dropped in the most unlikely places.
Treat yourself to Starting Tomorrow, by CQN Sponsors’ DMP. Our thanks to George and Gordon. Check out the band at their official site.
751 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- ...
- 18
- »
Paul67 et al
The fact that Celtic could bring on Commons, Ki and McCourt as second half substitutes shows that across the park we have some good options. Add the fact that Brown is still out, and Wanyama was in defence, well you get the picture. And we have got players who can win us matches. Last season we picked up only 43points in our first 19 matches, and yet we would need to win each of our next five SPL games to reach 44 this time round. That obviously will be our aim. I am always a bit wary of turning corners, (maybe it’s because I’ve got tunnel vision) but I will venture out this time, beating Motherwell and Inverness shows we can dig out results, maybe Dunfermline will find out that we can move up a gear or two.
Awe Naw
Do you think they might go after minty next……….on second thoughts
Awe Naw
Get me a case of red please. lol
I know one shouldnt try to profit from a mans misfortunes and that. Could you make that 2 cases please!!
Eyes Wide Open says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:44
I agree with your assessment about our overall play not just yesterday but generally over the season to-date.
Had the ICT player not been sent off it may have been different story. As I posted earlier we lack spark, we our midfield too often is not linking the play up with our strikers.
When you read Neil’s comments you have to wonder if he is watching the same game we are. I can only guess by making these public comments he is trying to instil some much needed confidence into the players.
We won ugly yesterday, so to speak but that is how leagues are won.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
I saw the Keevins piece at my folks today. The most inept piece of journalism I have ever had the misfortune to read.
A request was made to meet Eddie Smith, he point blank refused even though he is in charge at match days. His boss refused to meet the supporters groups about the issues they had. Corrigan was a third choice who chose to lay out the agenda in the press.
STOP FEEDING THESE PARASITES LIKE KEEVINS!
HH
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:51
No, your question is are rebel songs sung at GAA games.
If they’ve never been sung then the reasons you state (not suggest, state, like it’s a FACT) that they aren’t sung don’t stack up.
If you have sky i urge you to check out what Peter Cech is wearing on his head/face. What a state!
Glenbuck says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:57
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:35
How many saltires did you see ed Sevilla? You have a problem with tricolours too?
—–
Don’t rely on me mate ..check out any of the official fotos of the stadium during the game, there were plenty of saltires.
What have I said to indicate I would have anything agianst the tricolour? (I assume you refer to the Republic of Ireland version:O)
HH
M
Eyes Wide Open says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:44
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
2010 Never Again
I’ve no doubt Neil Lennon is doing nothing more than putting a positive slant on things.
With the injury list we have had to deal with….and an average age of the team in their early 20’s…..allied with getting kicked off the park with little or no protection from the MIB…..winning is what matters right now.
Performances will come when we have a settled side and the confidence factor rises.
At the St Pats Setanta cup game against linfield in 2008, there was pleanty of IRA stuff being sung that night, mind you it was in retaliation the the bile coming from the linfield support, it was good to see them having to run the gauntlet of the guards though.
Hall of fame.
Joining Butcher in the hall of fame is another Rangers player from many
years ago called Robert Smyth McColl. He played in the early part of the 1900’s. He scored 13 goals from 13 games with Scotland.
Who are these two and what contribution to Scottish football
i like what gordon strachan said yesterday on ESPN about trying to gain 2 points on rangers every month
Why would Celtic fans in Scotland chose to sing rebel songs when GAA fans in Ireland don’t?
Maybe it’s because one set of fans is in Scotland and another in Ireland.
Maybe fans at a GAA game don’t feel they have to fight to maintain their cultural identity in a hostile setting?
And if you have two sets of supporters with a broadly similar outlook on the national question, like you’d have at a GAA game, why would you sing songs that would fail to differentiate between you.
Cant believe the invisible man kicked the ball once yesterday and becomes the greatest thing to grace the Celtic jersey.
Sammi played a blinder again yesterday, MOTM easy, but nothing form the usual, the guy has hardly put a foot wrong since getting a regular spot, does any one kown the win/loose stats for him starting ??
Paddy McCourt came on after the invisible man, thought I saw Paddy making a blinding defensive intervention, IMO far more important/impressive than any forward run he made, but for one pass, the invisible man is living up to that name.
We have a winning team and formation, obviously I dont agree with all the selections but, favorites should earn their place in the team, dont make the same mistake as lsat seaon stick to the winning team only replace through injury, there’ll be enough of that anyway.
Paddy is better than Ki
Sammi is world class
hail hail
I enjoy a good rebel song myself, but I hate hearing them sung at Celtic Park.
There are, in particular, two, “justifications,” for them that really annoy me:
1) It’s about celebrating our Irish heritage
2) Republicanism is part of Celtic’s history.
First, Republicanism is a political ideology, and you don’t have to be a Republican to be Irish. Indeed, I suspect most Irish people are not. So if anyone wants to celebrate Celtic’s Irish heritage at games (and I’m all for that, believe me), there is no need to sing rebel songs to do it. We could sing Delanay’s Donkey to celebrate our Irish heritage, but I don’t think that is, “hard,” enough for most of the rebel singers, although I suspect the people who feign outrage at the rebel songs would be similarly apoplectic to hear it. The difference would be, they would show themselves up for the bigots they are if they complained.
Second, Republicanism never was at any time relevant to Celtic Football Club. The Republican movement was moribund in the 1880’s, and any of our clubs founders who had strong political opinions were more than likely nationalists who supported the cause of Home Rule. I resent being told that I am somehow less of a Celtic supporter for not being a Republican, or not wanting to sing rebel songs at Celtic Park.
Having said all that, when I hear of 17 year olds being locked up and police officers reporting the club for, “illicit,” and, “offensive,” singing, I feel inclined to shout from the rooftops that there is nothing wrong with rebel songs and we should be allowed to sing them if we want.
We’re not going to get anything more than a slap on the wrist from UEFA (if that), and there won’t be any punishment from the SPL because their own precedent means clubs who have tried to eradicate verboten songs can’t be punished for it. But really, the whole thing is bad for the reputation of the club and an unnecessary distraction from the real business of winning back the league title. Let’s save the rebel songs for the bus.
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:05
—–
‘Don’t rely on me mate ..check out any of the official fotos of the stadium during the game, there were plenty of saltires.’
There were hardly any saltires on display.
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:03
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:51
No, your question is are rebel songs sung at GAA games.
If they’ve never been sung then the reasons you state (not suggest, state, like it’s a FACT) that they aren’t sung don’t stack up
—-
No Ernie, I was asking the question (of an Irishman?) as I don’t know the answer.
I have only attended a few ROI games in Dublin and two GAA games. Those songs were not sung then. Of course that does not mean they are not sung. There have been a few requests on the subject in recent weeks, with only replies stating that they are not sung. Unless I have missed the responses that explain that they sung …I don’t see every post.
I would have thought a good Irishman like yourself would have already known the answer? (I missed your reply to Mort a few weeks back ..but we all know you live somewhere in the Emerald Isle..right?)
HH
M
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:14
they were there …a few more than you would like?
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:13
‘Second, Republicanism never was at any time relevant to Celtic Football Club. The Republican movement was moribund in the 1880′s, and any of our clubs founders who had strong political opinions were more than likely nationalists who supported the cause of Home Rule. I resent being told that I am somehow less of a Celtic supporter for not being a Republican, or not wanting to sing rebel songs at Celtic Park.’
Drawing a distinction between Irish Nationalism and Irish Republicanism isn’t particularly helpful in this context.
bring back the picture of ally Mcoist
That video is dated and crap.
The music sounds like a Dx7 playing itself.
Truelly awful.
c’mon the hoops
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:17
‘they were there …a few more than you would like?’
There were very very few saltires.
We all know that.
Just enter ‘Celtic in Seville’ into Google images.
There’s no point even trying to argue about it.
Paul
One swallow does not a summer make, but (BUT) – I definitely feel that Mr McCoist might actually be looking back over his shoulder for the first time. That niggling self doubt that can make cyclists etc have a peek back at the pack.
Gordon Strachan was so on the money yesterday.
It’s a big if with our present team but IF we can take all 6 points of the next 2 games then Alastair will be checking the hunting pack behind him…
Big big win yesterday – credit to the football players.
U
There were hundreds of Saltires on display at the UEFA cup final.
HH
Hall of fame 2011 inductees.
Given the meeja coverage this week you would think big Butcher was the only inductee. Not a bit of it.
2011 Inductees
Paddy Crerand (1939- ) – Football Player
Ronnie Simpson (1930-2004) – Football Player
Terry Butcher (1958- ) – Football Player
RS McColl (1876-1959) – Football Player
Hugh McIlvanney (1934- ) – Sports Journalist
Well done Father, Paddy and a real journalist Hugh.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:28
‘There were hundreds of Saltires on display at the UEFA cup final.’
Are there any photos showing ‘hundreds’ of saltires?
SeMichaesboy2,
“There are, in particular, two, “justifications,” for them that really annoy me:
1) It’s about celebrating our Irish heritage
2) Republicanism is part of Celtic’s history.!
Try
1) It’s about celebrating our Irish heritage
2) Recognising the emancipation of the Irish people from nearly a millenium of tyranny is part of that heritage.
Then you might understand some peoples reasoning behind their argument.
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:21
Drawing a distinction between Irish Nationalism and Irish Republicanism isn’t particularly helpful in this context.
Not helpful to whom?
I thought Tom English and Jim Traynor were very weak in their Celtic attacks last night on the BBC. They were poorly prepared and actually sounded tired, in my opinion. Who cares? Not me. I only listened to it because I was in the car and hoped for some complaining huns.
But, I was curious about the low key. English couldn’t even be bothered diguising the fact that he had only seen the red card incident live from the press box and had not seen a replay, but still spent the next hour saying it was a disgraceful/deplorable etc decision. A sharper English would have made it his business to see a replay, to check what all the fake fuss was about or, of course, just said that he had seen it a couple of times and after detailed analysis had concluded that the referee, Samaras, Celtic fans and Celtic FC are a disgrace.
Swansea Bhoy’s reference yesterday to a letter to the press from Willie Maley in 1906 confirms that the anti-Celtic editorial policy has been there from the very beginning of our football. Maybe it’s energy comes and goes, I don’t know. But, I have to say that I think that the likes of Traynor and English, Keevins and the rest are really struggling to hurt us right now. One reason that may be blindingly obvious to all and just now dawning on me, is that they are really toiling with how to play it when they have to write, maybe this year or more likely in 2012, that David Murray, hero to them all, has caused a financial annihilation of Rangers FC.
But another reason is, even more obviously, this great website and how it has totally and utterly taken the wind out of so many old media sails.
As Swansea Bhoy’s Maley letter said:
“We have lived against it (and I think done fairly well) for 18 years, and feel quite easy in mind as to their ability to harm us or even worry us.”
Beautifully put Mr Maley, it still applies in 2011. Good luck with 1905/06 title run-in with Hearts! I know you can do it.
Ernie,
I have one on my wall my son is still counting he is at 321 at the moment. You couldn’t have been there and not noticed unless you were blind drunk. ;-)
HH
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:31
It’s not helpful to anyone, because it’s not a clear cut distinction, unless you define the terms very clearly.
Would you describe the Manchester Martyrs as Nationalists or Republicans?
Steinreignedsupreme says:
20 November, 2011 at 15:58
Yes mate, the only question was to ask if you thought (or think) or come close to thinking Lennon needed to be replaced.
Imatim
If I was confident that was the case I would sleep a little easier at night.
Im not sure if this is relevant but while NL was development squad coach, he made a comment about watching a big game during the mon years on CelticTV (before it closed down) and couldnt believe the difference in quality. He then said it was only then he realised just how far a gap there was in quality between then and at that point.
The reason I say this is because it took him to watch a game during the MON years to be reminded – its in our dreams and nightmares every single week.
Maybe he has lost that perspective again?
What do you reckon – is it possible?
Abbot @ 16.32
Lovely post – made me smile – made me proud – again…
U
Ernie
If you remember. I changed my name to Saltires en Sevlla as a reminder to you when you log onto CQN that Celtic are a Scottish club with proud Irish origins. I always have a wee chuckle when I think of you reading that every day.
There are many fotos showing Celtic fans with saltires in the stadium that night, that is not in doubt.
You can re-draft your version of history all day long..it will not change a thing.
Anyway, what’s becoming really interesting ….your continued reluctance to declare where you are in Ireland? ….Go on..you know you want to…if not the town or county what about the the province?
HH
M
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:32
I suspect that will have been a painting by numbers version issued by the SNP you’ve got on your wall.
Google images is your friend.
Probably more stars and stripes than saltires.
Liverpooooooooooooooooooooooool………1
chelskey…………………………………………0
at the dridge
BigJoesayingYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Biiiiiiig JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOe
how’s the toe
Ernie
Son is at 457 and not even half way through the poster.
HH
saltires en sevilla says:
15.35
“If I undertsand you correctly. You think there is no difference between a group of (I am assuming) ‘like-minded’ people singing rebel/ira/provo songs in a bar in Donegal and the same group going into Celtic Park and singing the same songs.”
You don’t understand me correctly, and you deliberately misinterpret what I say.
I said there is nothing wrong, in principle, with rebel songs, whether at Celtic Park or in Letterkenny. In practical terms, I would like Celtic fans to be aware of the sensitivities of their fellow supporters and refrain from sectarian or offensive chants and songs, and overtly politicising our club. By the same token, many of our supporters who have been victims of British Army atrocities in Ireland might be offended by the poppy facism that our club has become part of. Where is the respect there?
Amhrán na bhFiann is played at all GAA matches, Athenry is a regular favourite and I heard On One the One Road given a lusty rendition at the Aviva on Tuesday night in the RoI game v Estonia. Are they being offensive to those who died?
Is your real objection to the songs, that they’re not sung by ‘real’ Irishmen such as Neil Lennon?
You miss the point about whether or not rebel songs are sung at sporting occasions in Ireland. People in the 26 counties are not part of a larger Irish diaspora. They don’t feel the need to celebrate their identity in the same way as those Irish, and of Irish descent, who are abroad. Maybe if Scotland allowed the same degree of tolerance towards the Irish as every other country in the world we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
“The Italians, Polish, Indian, Pakistani -What about the Scots with no Irish origin? The Italians, Polish, Indian, Pakistani etc, etc…what about them?”
I have personal experience with lots of people from these nationalities. I haven’t hidden my politics or background, and my Republicanism has without exception, been received positively. As it happens, these same people are much less receptive to the Poppy excesses.