Yesterday’s result at Ibrox gave some welcome encouragement but it would be wrong to read too much into it. Rangers still have the kind of lead that would have Celtic thoroughly confident of a league win and, lest we forget, St Johnstone collected all three points from Celtic Park already this season.
The win at Inverness was much more important. The Highlanders are bottom of the league but that is a false position. Two points separate Hibs, Dunfermline, Aberdeen and Inverness, while Kilmarnock, who shipped six goals to Inverness at home two weeks ago, are only a further two points away. Even with 10 men Inverness remained well organised yesterday, don’t be surprised if they move ahead of the four teams above them in the weeks to come.
The league is remarkably tight from fourth place St Johnstone to bottom Inverness, where fewer points separate the teams than split Celtic and Rangers. Don’t, therefore, be surprised if points are dropped in the most unlikely places.
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Hall of fame
I counted 24 Rangers to 19 Celtic out of the 78.
Derek Johnstone is in there ???;;;;
Celtic fans can fly the Saltire if they wish to. I’m proud to. Flying a Saltire does no mean you are pro SFA etc or any of that garbage.
There is more to Scotland than just Football & Politics.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:30
There’s still no need to sing rebel songs to celebrate our Irish heritage.
If it’s about, “Recognising the emancipation of the Irish people from nearly a millenium of tyranny…” then actually, the English state was never in control of more than a fraction of the country (The Pale) until the beginning of the 17th Century. Your sums are about 700 years out.
And if that’s really the case, why aren’t we singing songs about Daniel O’Connell (The Liberator) or Charles Stewart Parnell (The Uncrowned King of Ireland), who both did at least as much to emancipate the Irish people from tyranny as the IRA? Why aren’t we singing songs about Arthur Griffith? Douglas Hyde? WB Yeats?
I also wonder why Republic of Ireland fans, who support the Republic of Ireland rather than Celtic, don’t feel the need to celebrate the emancipation of the Irish people from about 300 years of tyranny at their games?
“Come let me hear ye tell
How you slandered the great Parnell”
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:43
Maybe it’s because Celtic fans are uniquely stupid and ignorant?
Why can’t we all be just like you? (That’s what you really think, isn’t it? Go on, admit it.)
One
Serge (10) Tommy Burns says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:39
‘Celtic fans can fly the Saltire if they wish to’
The fact that so few chose to do so is significant though, don’t you think?
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1. whitedoghunch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:38
Biiiiiiig JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOe
how’s the toe
The toe is fine apart from the fcuk afffffffff bandage the bird put on it.
Going back in the morning………………………… so should be mobile after that.
BigJoeWiththeHugebndagedToe
dallasnomore says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:39
my apologies, seriously not trying to skew what you were saying. just trying to understand and a little clearer now. thanks.
HH
M
I expect the sectairian fa are getting as many huns as possible into the hall of fame in the coming months, cause they wont be able to profer any names from any pheonix club, cant be old enoght to have server scottish football :oD
And you wont hear many for people who helped destroy a club, surely :o)
Eyes Wide Open: 20 November, 2011 at 16:35
“Yes mate, the only question was to ask if you thought (or think) or come close to thinking Lennon needed to be replaced.”
No. I haven’t at any point wanted him replaced.
I didn’t want Lenny to get the job initially because I don’t think it should be a position for a first-time manager, but once the decision was made I accepted what comes with that and have tried to be realistic about where we stand as a team.
Lenny is a manager still learning the ropes and as such he will make mistakes – that simply goes with the territory. Last season he achieved more than I expected, as I felt it would take him a year to bed in. I have been encouraged with his efforts so far, and while this season has been patchy it is easy to forget he has been without key personnel like Izaguirre and Commons, and has not had a settled defence available either through injuries or suspensions, while other players have simply lost form.
But we are just over a quarter of the way through the season, and our title rivals have a first-time manager who so far has enjoyed a sterling start in the league, but will certainly make his own mistakes as the season advances. When the pressure builds during the run-in I think Lenny’s experience from last season will weigh heavily in our favour.
Ulysses,
thanks. Appreciate that.
Cheers.
Ernie,
I asked the bhoy to stop counting. There were thousands and they show up really well against the tricolour backdrop. ;-)
HH
Any links to yesterday’s game.
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:34
It’s not helpful to anyone, because it’s not a clear cut distinction, unless you define the terms very clearly.
Sorry, but that’s just a cop-out. I suspect it is unhelpful to your argument, because it muddies the waters and enables you to claim Brother Walfrid was a Republican.
Brother Walfrid and the other founding fathers of our club were motivated more by Catholicism than Irish nationalism, far less Republicanism. They chose the name, “Celtic,” to build bridges with the native Scots, and doing anything which leads to unnecessary division with our neighbours (and singing rebel songs certainly is unecessary and creates division) would go against everything Brother Walfrid stood for.
Republicanism has, and had, nothing to do with the formation of Celtic Football Club. Faith Of Our Fathers has more claim to be intrinsic to Celtic’s identity than Boys of the Old Brigade.
Eyes Wide Open
“he (NL) made a comment about watching a big game during the mon years on CelticTV (before it closed down) and couldnt believe the difference in quality. He then said it was only then he realised just how far a gap there was in quality between then and at that point.”
I would be careful to draw a distinction on what Neil was referring to as the “quality” on display that he noted. I believe he was referring to the quality of player that we could buy then (Lennon, Hartson, Sutton) and the 3 great players MON inherited from previous managerial spends (Larsson, Petrov & Moravcik) rather than the quality of play, which may be implied in your post.
We all know the reasons why we cannot operate as we did in that brief period of time. When the likes of Jordan Henderson and Connor Wickham cost £18m and £8m respectively, the chance of picking up a 3rd choice striker from a top EPL team or a starting midfielder from a mid-table EPL team for £6m are long gone.
We have to shop in different markets. Lenny has done well to identify the likes of Izzy, Wanyama and Kayal and has two great Bosmans in Ledley and Matthews but shopping in that market does increase the risk that, along the way, you will sign some players who are not up to the standard too (Cha??, Daryl Murphy, Bangura??)
The Saltire to me, means the abhorrent SNP. Enough said…HH
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:47
I apologise for coming across as more intelligent than you are comfortable with.
did not see the match yesterday but see looking back that WGS, as ever, played a blinder standing up for us.
My sons and my brother told me he was a wee naughty and kept referring to Celtic as “we” or “us” and that he was brilliant especially with a poke your finger in the eye comment
Won’t do Gordon; this will get your ESPN invites stopped but I know you’ll always get a great reception at CP. You’ve earned that right.
Thanks to a those who have sent me a private message on FB and by email about my news this afternoon.
For anyone else I have been re-selected as a candidate in next May’s Council election in the East End of Glasgow. I can see me hagving less time to spend on my CQN addiction!!!!!!
StMichaelsbhoy2,
answer me one question
Do you condemn rangers for witholding resources critical to the british govt in protecting british soldiers in active service ??
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:54
‘They chose the name, “Celtic,” to build bridges with the native Scots, and doing anything which leads to unnecessary division with our neighbours’
I’d be genuinely interested to know why you believe that to be the case.
saltires en sevilla says:
at 16:49
I’m a pushover for a twittered apology.
You win!
It’s not the songs they hate it’s us they hate
2 goals for Gallagher Leicester, Was he at Blackburn for years?
St.John.Doyle..
keep fighting the good fight…
KTF
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:56
I condemn them for not paying their taxes. As far as equipment for the forces is concerned, I really don’t think the amounts they with-held would have made much difference to the defence budget. I do take great delight in taunting the Orcs I know about it, right enough.
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:05
Don’t rely on me mate ..check out any of the official fotos of the stadium during the game, there were plenty of saltires.
What have I said to indicate I would have anything agianst the tricolour? (I assume you refer to the Republic of Ireland version:O)
I mind you spat the dummy oot and changed yer name in past in support of our “Scottishness” or in protest against our Irishness. I have since looked for aw the saltires en sevilla and could only find a haundfae – no that I have a problem with the saltire, my national flag – just with accuracy and those who have a problem with Celtic’s Irishness. Why are you no “tricolours en sevilla” if you are so interested in the majority.
blantyretim says:
20 November, 2011 at 17:00
St.John.Doyle..
keep fighting the good fight…
KTF
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All of us in the Celtic family will have a lot of battles in the coming months my council election will be minor in comparison.
StMichaelsbhoy2
I have read some pish on here but to suggest the founders of our club went about touching the forelock to our Protestant oppressors takes the biscuit…
StMichaelsBhoy2: 20 November, 2011 at 17:01
Still, they put on a good poppy display wi’ the cards an aw that…
pregnant mason
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What’s wrong with a saltire.
Now the Lion rampant, that’s a different kettle O fish.
The royal standard of Robert the Bruce…………
BigSaltireFlyingJoe
StMichaelsboy2,
Upwards of £50M can buy a lot of boots and flack jacktes, bullet proof vests,
I never asked for qualification or mitigation, just culpibility.
StMichaelsBhoy2
Excellent posts my friend. Your style of writing and reasoned argument are indeed first class.
Always a pleasure to read your points of view.
HH
EC67
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:57
That quotation in full: “They chose the name, “Celtic,” to build bridges with the native Scots, and doing anything which leads to unnecessary division with our neighbours (and singing rebel songs certainly is unecessary and creates division) would go against everything Brother Walfrid stood for.”
Try reading The Story of Celtic by Gerald McNee, Celtic: A Century With Honour by Brian Wilson, or <Dreams and Songs to Sing by Tom Campbell and Pat Woods.
I’m sure I won’t need to point you in the direction of the appropriate chapters.
Not a lot of saltires on show here.
Though it was nice to see the painting of the Last Supper again.
I remember the guy buying that in Stuttgart. He said it was for his mammy. I wonder if she ever got to put it up on her wall?
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Fans+in+Seville+Pics
St.John.Doyle says:
20 November, 2011 at 16:56
Don’t know who you really are or what your politics are but good luck you for standing up for you believe in and being counted.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!