Yesterday’s result at Ibrox gave some welcome encouragement but it would be wrong to read too much into it. Rangers still have the kind of lead that would have Celtic thoroughly confident of a league win and, lest we forget, St Johnstone collected all three points from Celtic Park already this season.
The win at Inverness was much more important. The Highlanders are bottom of the league but that is a false position. Two points separate Hibs, Dunfermline, Aberdeen and Inverness, while Kilmarnock, who shipped six goals to Inverness at home two weeks ago, are only a further two points away. Even with 10 men Inverness remained well organised yesterday, don’t be surprised if they move ahead of the four teams above them in the weeks to come.
The league is remarkably tight from fourth place St Johnstone to bottom Inverness, where fewer points separate the teams than split Celtic and Rangers. Don’t, therefore, be surprised if points are dropped in the most unlikely places.
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Gordon J…,
“only around £3.5M would have been added to the defence budget.”
How much do Celtic owe ??
I’d say that £3.5M could have been the difference to any of the soldiers in active duty ??
Do you think there migh be more to add to that figure ??
Just a quick word on the Rangers fouls per booking stat from yesterday. It’s a bit of a weird premise to base anything on. A team can make 15 fouls in a game and if none of them are serious it’s possible none of the players are booked (providing they’re evenly spread around the team). Conversely, if 4 serious fouls are committed, it can lead to 4 yellows.
Let’s keep it sane, people.
I have it on good authority that Quintessentially British’s unpaid taxes had been ring fenced in advance by wee Brenda’s Government and were going to be used to pay for badly needed Education and Adult Literacy services.
Sadly the failure of Quintessentially British FC to pay its taxes has not resulted in a reduction of that organization’s risibly hypocritical desire to wave the flag of the very nation it has failed to pay tax to. Hypocritical chancers.
pintaguinness
1. Lisbon Lions picture signed by all the team.
three-way tie for second
2. Signed Henrik/Lubo/BBJ* pictures
* the Hartson picture is a cracker. BBJ jumping towards the Celtic fans after scoring the only goal at Ibrokes on 4th October 2003. Some of you might be in the picture!
Thank you Ernie Lynch, you have inspired me. I’ll be there on Wednesday night with my Saltire.
Vmhan♣ who Supports Neil Lennon says:
20 November, 2011 at 18:09
Hear Hear… 216 goals in 331 appearances – 2 in every 3 games
RIP James Quinn 1878-1945
canamalar,
I wasn’t aware Celtic owed any tax?
saltires en sevilla says:
20 November, 2011 at 19:28
pintaguinness says:
20 November, 2011 at 19:23
Guys
Changing the subject to make things a bit lighter? What’s your 2 most cherished Celtic posessions?
a wee celtic music box bought in the 60’s.billy mcneil on the lid with a cup (euro) i think, open up the lid and it plays the grand ol’ team
a great collection of badges dating to the 50’s
Ulyssis..,
implication that Celic are exclusively Catholic
Oh and you know why Sammi seen more of the ball than Hooper yesterday, cause he’s much better than Hooper :o)
Gordon j…,
are you selecting which questions to answer :o)
no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi )
Any pictures?
ernie lynch says:
20 November, 2011 at 17:34
Not sure where my copy of the McNee book is, but I’m sure he’s clearer on the origins of the name.
Also see Wilson, page 14. I’m too lazy to type the whole page out but here’s a short excerpt:
A few months later, the name, ‘Celtic,’ was adopted for the new football club, with Brother Walfrid prominent in advocating it. This was consistent with the fact that he had previously organised teams under the name, ‘Columba,’ which evoked the common religious inheritance of Scotland and Ireland. The Catholic Irish had been naming teams for the previous fifteen or twenty years, and Celtic never appears to have risen as a suggestion – Hibernians, Harp, Erin, Shamrock and Emerald were the popular choices. Even as late as August 1887, an Irish select team played Partick Thistle at Whiteinch under the name of Western Hibernians… But over the next few months, the argument in favour of, ‘Celtic,’ was won. For those who wished to build bridges between the Scots and the Irish, it was perfect.
How about Celtic FC’s Social Mission statement on the official website:
http://www.celticfc.net/corporate_socialmission
History
Celtic Football Club was founded in 1888. Its principal founder was a Marist Brother named Walfrid. The Club had two principal aims: The first aim was to raise funds to provide food for the poor of the East End of Glasgow, an area of the City that was greatly impoverished and had a high rate of infant mortality. Within the East End was a large Irish community and friction was growing between the native Glaswegians and the new influx of Irish. Brother Walfrid saw the need for social integration and his vision was a football club that Scottish and Irish, Protestants and Catholics alike could support. A new football club would be a vehicle to bring the communities together and this was the second aim. The Marist brother sought for the Club to have both a Scottish and Irish identity and hence, the Club’s name “Celtic” came about, representing a bridge of cultures across the Irish Sea.
I can’t at this moment in time provide you with a primary source which explicitly states that a purpose of the club is to provide a means of building bridges between the Irish and native Scots, but there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest it was.
On the other hand, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Republicanism was in any way part Celtic Football Club, at any time in our history.
How about this circular, released by the club in January 1888:
Or how about the circular released by the club in January 1888?
Celtic Football and Athletic Club
Celtic Park, Parkhead
(Corner of Dalmarnock and Janefield Streets)
Patrons
His Grace the Archbishop of Glasgow and the Clergy of St Mary’s, Sacred Heart and St Michael’s Missions, and the principal Catholic laymen of the East End.
The above club was formed in November 1887, by a number of the Catholics of the East End of the city.
The main object is to supply the East End conferences of the St Vincent de Paul Society with funds for the maintenance of the ‘Dinner Tables’ of our needy children in the Missions of St Mary’s, Sacred Heart and St Michael’s. Many cases of sheer poverty are left unaided through lack of means. It is therefore with this principal object that we have set afloat the ‘Celtic’ and we invite you as one of our ever-ready friends to assist in putting our new Park in proper working order for the coming football season.
We have already several of the leading Catholic football players of the West of Scotland on our membership list. They have most thoughtfully offered to assist in the good work.
We are fully aware that the ‘elite’ of football players belong to this City and suburbs, and we know that from there we can select a team which will be able to do credit to the Catholics of the West of Scotland as the Hibernians have been doing in the East. Again there is also the desire to have a large recreation ground where our Catholic young men will be able to enjoy the various sports which will build them up physically, and we feel sure we will have many supporters with us in this laudable object.
No suggestion whatsoever that Republicanism was anything to do with the founding of the club. What is very explicit, is that the new club was Catholic in character. I’ll return to a point I made earlier – singing Catholic hymns at Celtic Park would be far more in keeping with the spirit of the club, than singing rebel songs. Of course, some would say that would be far too exclusive. Unlike rebel songs????
Obviously have no idea how good our latest recruit is, or could turn out to be, although Arsenal apparently saw something positive in a then young teenager.
2 primary concerns, in light of the current “initiatives” from our admirers in authority (politicians and polis alike) :
What will Celtic be charged with when they print his name on the back of his shirt? Racism or bigotry? Or should they play it safe and just call him Andre?
What if he plays well enough to attract the admiration of the always inventive GB who chant their praise of the Blackman? Will we have a referendum to bring back hanging or what?
Just personal musings which suddenly don’t seem so daft in light of the current trend by those in power to either choose to interpret the law as they see fit or create new ones to fit their purpose.
Still a proud Scot, for lots of historical reasons. Even more relieved that I left so many years ago and can distance myself from the shameful place it has become. Not excusing how it was, but the comments on here indicate it has become even worse and the deterioration is accelerating.
Well they couldn’t beat me then and they can’t beat you now. For whatever reason they seem to feel the need to win a battle, their problem is they don’t have an enemy, so they try to make one up. Let them fight shadows, get on with your lives, be successful and look forward to seeing yesterday’s men in the rear-view mirror, ‘cos that time is coming.
Cheers
Alex
Just seen this from another Celtic site.
Tomorrows papers are reporting the cowardly attack on Stokes house where his girlfriend was alone in the house they smashed the front windows while singing God save the queen and other hate songs. Wonder how the papers will report it ? they will no doubt not comment on the hate chants by the attackers lets see how the Police deal with this
A wee plastic figure of Henrik given to me by a fellow CQN’er and a wee book of Celtic trivia
Wanyama & Stokes rightly got the plaudits for their performance but a word of praise for big Fraser a very good save 1st half, this was the kind of shot he was slow getting down to last season.
Wee Gordon S was brill yesterday even more enjoyable was the look on Hatelys face as if to say “FFS he knows what he is talking about please dont ask me to comment after him”
bamboo says:
20 November, 2011 at 18:36
Thanks for that. I haven’t been reading through the comments a lot recently, so I’m glad to hear that.
Mick
Im sure they will say Anthony Stokes brought it on himself.
Well that`s what people said about Neil Lennon.
Celtic player fails to pay window-cleaner!
I’d say this is the start of the campaign again to pressure Celtic and it’s players thereby help rankers.
The way the legal system has admonished the huns in the last few weeks is it surprising?
Paddy Gallagher
Footballers house attacks innocent members of the public.
:)
20 November, 2011 at 19:57
That was a copy & paste from the other website, though did smile when I read back
“while singing God save the queen and other hate songs”
Regarding the Data recently released; I’ll bet the vast majority of these “Anti-Protestant” crimes have been
the result of Person A calling Person B, an Orange or Hun so and so. Now, I’m not debating the validity of either
of these terms to be illegal/legal/Offensive, but “Anti-Protestant”? Please!
When the Scottish Police, or Government, advise on the measures that will be undertaking to tackle the scourge
which is the Orange Order; then I will accept the Country’s leading figures, determination to eradicate
Sectarianism. Until this point arrives, I most certainly won’t be accepting Lectures from either of these two cowardly
organisations, on said subject.
seanbhoy69 says:
20 November, 2011 at 20:08
As this is the second such attack, I would hope both player and club have stepped up security and have CCTV evidence.
Based on the fact that we can receive a custodial sentance for singing, this crime might carry a deportation order.
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 19:57
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Nice post, cheers
Most cherished Celtic possession.
Celtic season ticket.
Widowed 1996.
No chance of a season ticket 1997 but a friend let the tic know my circumstances and ticket popped through in the mail.
Hail hail!
He’s Irish and deserves it -Daily Mail.
Is this Campbell at work?
Árd Macha
Paddy Gallagher
Being the polite young Bhoy that I am I will refrain from saying what I really feel regarding people like that.
ulysses mcghee says:
20 November, 2011 at 19:36
Absolutely correct. Indeed, with the Catholic Church, there would be no Celtic Football Club.
It always amazes me to see/hear Celtic fans deny our Catholic roots, then in the same breath claim Republicanism is somehow intrinsic to our club’s identity.
And that being too Catholic would turn non-Catholics away from the club, but these same non-Catholics will somehow not be put off by a mistaken association with Republicanism!
FWIW, just read back and i was surprised how many Saltires were in the stadium in Seville,non plussed either way TBH.
The No 13 shorts at 19.05
Glad to see that someone has seen beyond the acceptable songs debate smokescreen that has been raging on here for days- its no coincidence that the sudden increase in Polis action against us occurs as the SNP are trying to push through their “even it up” legislation. I see the current Polis, political and press actions as part of a wider campaign, similar to the demonising of things like speeding and smoking tax free cigs as they justify the new laws by showing how terrible we, or rather a part of us (the GB) really are (in their eyes) and how they need new laws to put us Timmy’s in our place. If it wasnt the songs it would be something else like the wearing of the green or for being too handsome to be one of them. Dont let them divide us
Come on you bhoys in green
Mick, and so it goes on.
The recurring theme here is, if you are successful at Celtic, especially if you’re Irish, you risk attack. The bigots have taken over the asylum.
If you are Celtic stock with the best intentions and desires for our club, I don’t give a flying * about your/his/her religion.
Correction to my post at 20.17
Without the Catholic Church, there would be no Celtic Football Club.
Can someone please clarify, is it a crime to be Irish, Catholic and/or a supporter of Celtic?
O Paddy dear, and did ye hear the news that’s goin’ round?
The shamrock is by law forbid to grow on Irish ground!
No more Saint Patrick’s Day we’ll keep, his color can’t be seen
For there’s a cruel law ag’in the Wearin’ o’ the Green.”
I met with Napper Tandy, and he took me by the hand
And he said, “How’s poor old Ireland, and how does she stand?”
“She’s the most distressful country that ever yet was seen
For they’re hanging men and women there for the Wearin’ o’ the Green.”
“So if the color we must wear be England’s cruel red
Let it remind us of the blood that Irishmen have shed
And pull the shamrock from your hat, and throw it on the sod
But never fear, ’twill take root there, though underfoot ’tis trod.
When laws can stop the blades of grass from growin’ as they grow
And when the leaves in summer-time their color dare not show
Then I will change the color too I wear in my caubeen
But till that day, please God, I’ll stick to the Wearin’ o’ the Green.
Paddy G,
amen… er, I mean… me anaw