“Sell Out Saturday, show everyone the SPL doesn’t need the Old Firm to thrive”. Discuss.
You have to admire the Aberdeen fans, and fans of every other club in the league, even Kilmarnock fans, who are clearly infuriated by the actions of their chairman. For perhaps the first time in history they have stood up to their clubs and football administrators and effected real and genuine change in our game.
Aberdeen fans produced this Sell-out Saturday graphic, urging people to “show everyone the SPL doesn’t need the Old Firm to thrive”. By ‘Old Firm’ I am sure they don’t mean the cash-cow rivalry Celtic had with Rangers, they mean without Rangers, and without Celtic too.
For every other club in the SPL, Celtic are now their most precious visiting brand. For fans of every other club in the SPL, Celtic are a competitive irrelevance. This season our income is likely to be greater than that of every other club in the league. We pay superstar wages while, for the most part, they pay real world footballers real world compensation.
In short, the SPL doesn’t need the SPL to thrive. The clubs may (or may not) believe they need Celtic to pay bills, but recent events have demonstrated that might not be the case.
There is another problem to consider. If the SPL keeps Celtic, in a decade or so they will have Newco-Rangers, and the whole dysfunctional business will start all over again. Kick Celtic out now and Newco-Rangers will never materialise in the manner it would if Celtic remained.
SPL fan power has one more club to sort out.
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Oldtim67
Couldn’t have been that good a night then :-)
Hopefully catch up next time you’re in town.
WeefratheTim on 22 July, 2012 at 13:57 said:
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Go to bottom left and click Scottish PL
Weefra HH
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Thank you Weefra, a wee panic there after a text fae ORC (now sorted) AGAIN :))
with the words,
Go to bottom left and click Scottish PL.:)))
A go home and away and a was at st mirren 4-0 tiny Mowbray last game a was embarrassed at that performance no doubt,embarrassed being a Celtic supporter never !
Lionsroar67
If none of them have pace then you cant.
HH
Why is Craig Whytes latest business venture that important it gets front page headlines and a two page spread?
To warn potential customers or rewrite history so that CW alone is responsible for all Rangers ills.
Is it Sir David Murray alone who is being protected or a whole class strata of Sirs and Lords who do not wish any focus placed on their actions?
The delayed FTT behind a veil of secrecy.
The stench is starting to rise.
Some songs can say it all. <o)))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=9oWNs7-n7Uo&NR=1
13.59
There = Their. Common mistake on here.
Lenny said was an experiment like its 1st time he’s tried it were we not using that formation sometimes last year am sure near end of season !
so….. the sevco mob are only ASSOCIATE members of the SFL. not FULL members for another four years…..
getting a riddy is nothing to be embarressed about…
Auld Heid
Agreed.
Good old fashioned ‘message-managment’ by the MSM………Whyteys a convenient patsy………
…re – the busted flush……………I’d imagine he’s worried about stripped ‘titles’ as well……………..bogus gong needs to go the same way of the tainted championships…….Period.
Tony Watt man of the match against Airdrie: no surprise there then! He would be more effective with both ankles strapped together than Darryl Murphy and Mo Bangura combined! Just my opinion!
HH!!
EuroChamps67
Seen any Octopus?
I see the comments section is back in the SM, but only for Celtic’s friendly, and all bhun comments ……LLLLOOOOLLLL
Hamiltontim.
We enjoyed our day out, BT decided to go home and watch the Celtic Game ,Lennybhoy & I stayed on for a couple of drinks, in the Irish pub in Dundas lane,can never remember the name of the bar.
Thought Mo looked sharp when he came on
Gonnae miss this, not!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=rmowVWW-oH0&feature=endscreen
Why the hell were we playing ardrie ?
oldtim67
Don’t know it.
Lennybhoy is conspicuous by his absence, I think your experience has left the youngster trailing!
Canamalar.
We thought you may have been in Glasgow and BT tried to get you on the phone,but you were in foreign parts,catch up for a drink the next time your home.I’ll be at the Norwich & Inter Milan games,then the first game of the season at Celtic Park.
Hamiltontim.
Are you going to any of those next two friendlies at Celtic Park, they’re on the ST.
new article posted.
oldtim67
Only the Norwich game is on the season book, I’ve had to buy a ticket for Inter Milan.
Yes I’ll be at both mate.
Ive never saw this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXYUidGwfn4&feature=related
Hamiltontim.
I got both on the book?
Awe Naw @ 13.25
Why did the club place such importance on winning pre season frendlies under MON ?
Do you think it might have been part of our charm offensive to get into the EPL and prove we were good enough to compete? i.e. There was something in it for the club over and above normal fitness involved in warm up games. That EPL door is currently closed to us, though lower English leagues may not be, but the Div.1 or 2 clubs won’t pay any attention to our results against Ajax in weighing up the merits of our move.
Or maybe it was exclusive to Martin O’ Neill. In which case we should have seen a procession of competitive wins by Aston Villa in recent seasons- did that actually happen? I checked the Sunderland website just now and, even though they have played one pre-season fixture they do not even list the result. That is how important it is to them and MON.
Or maybe we mistook the chicken for the egg. Did a club official say “we don’t do friendlies” or was it a fan’s view? If so, I reckon we must have had triumphant pre-seasons through the 80s and 90s but, scratch my memory banks, all I recall is that 5:1 humping by Arsenal at CP. We bought Martin Hayes on the strength of that so I am not for drawing too many lessons there.
I have never taken pre season frendlies seriously since WGS turned Celtic into Alan Shearers testimonial bitch.
Boo Hoo. We let Shearer take a free penalty. Even the Newcastle fans knew that was a circus act but they would have respected us not one bit more or one bit less if it had not happened. The people that care about these things suffer from the Scottish cringe and imagine that everyone is laughing at them. The English teams and their fans will take that superior attitude towards our clubs, whether we are actually bad or good. They took that view towards our great club in the 60s and early 70s and they still held it for our club in the 90s. They did not discriminate between night and day.
I find the Celtic fans who cringe the most are those who expect Celtic to live their lives for them. Celtic must be good to show that I am good. Celtic must be strong so that I can feel strong. If Celtic fail therefore, they have let such persons down and embarrassed them. Now I have had a few triumphs in my life and a lot of failures. Celtic were not responsible for any of them; I won’t let them take the credit nor blame. When I find foreign fans praising my club it is usually for one of two things. either they remember our great teams of 66 to 74 or they remember our fans singing and dancing, the very thing the miserabilists were deriding in our support last night. When Norwich fans were gushing in their praise of our club at the Drury testimonial, they were not gushing about what happened on the park.
Yesterday was the worst performance since Big Tony got gubbed by St Mirren.
An arguable proposition but I doubt you would get 10% agreement from fellow Celts. We have lost to Ross County and Kilmarnock in important games since then. I think our 2nd half collapse in the 4:2 game at Ibrox last season or the 3:1 loss to that defunct team at CP the year before were bad too. The St. Mirren game was 4 breakaways anyway. Kilmarnock made more chances against us in the 3:3 draw last year. We have lots of candidates for worst defeats; I doubt many will rank a pre-season performance in their top 10, once this recent memory has passed.
I dont think we can make the jump up in time for Helsinki never mind the next round.
Again, an arguable proposition. We may or we may not, but win draw or get humped vs. Ajax gives you few indicators of how we will do with a more ready squad playing competitive football rather than warm up football. If you are wrong about the Helsinki result, will it mean that all of the above arguments fall and Ajax will no longer be an embarrassing result? The answer you are likely to give is “No!”.
Similarly, If I am wrong and we lose to HJK (and we might because our MON squad almost did 12 years ago) it won’t make me any more inclined to see the Ajax result as embarrassing, for exactly the same reasons.
Final Point. The club does not “encourage” fans to go to see the pre-season games in Germany and Holland. It is the fans who insist on going when they can and good luck to them. But they made their own decisions. Nobody promised them a win or a great performance; the wise ones new what they were buying into and they are not crying about it.
I couldn’t bear seeing the post count stuck forever at 899.
It’s like being a fingernail short of winning an Olympic swimming gold.
900 seems so much more of an accomplishment.