News that Dundee United will vote against allocating a place in next season’s SPL to Sevco confirms what we suggested yesterday, that sentiment has swung against the notion. Motherwell’s innovative idea of allowing fans (who have already expressed overwhelming opposition to the idea) a vote is further evidence that even hard-pressed clubs are prepared to make financially difficult decisions. Suggestions that the Motherwell board should grow a pair and take responsibility themselves have some merit.
Stewart Milne has denied BBC reports that Aberdeen have decided to vote against but I expect this is a matter of due process more than any genuine indecision.
There was a feeling this morning that matters could be brought to a head sooner than 4 July if enough clubs publicly declared against Sevco. This would suit Charles Green’s company as they would be able to prepare offers to Rangers players (who they are able to sign) knowing where they are likely to end up. If they are forced to wait until 4 July, Sevco will not know what squad requirements they will need for next season before making a decision on what Rangers players to offer employment to.
More than SPL football, Sevco need clarity. A rush to declare against them might seem harsh but it would be enormously beneficial rather than being forced to wait a further 12 days.
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Barcabhoy on 22 June, 2012 at 12:23 said:……..
Lovely & fitting tribute to the beating heart of Aberdeen FC, Teddy Scott.
Guys like Teddy are more important than ANY player,.. or ANY manager.
You rightly point out that Celtic are blessed with two such characters in Danny & The Brush.
I join you in thanking these legends for their incredible service on & off the field of play over so many years. They are the very core of Celtic.
Rest in Peace, Teddy.
Good deeds do not require long statements; but when evil is done the whole art of oratory is employed as a screen for it.
Thucydides
Think this is more apt than Shakespeare in describing the position relating to Govan Dodgers.
Paul67 et al
I think it is fair to say that it is easier to form a company than it is to form a football club. Even so I am pretty sure that between us, we have enough knowledge, and ability to form the latter. Consider it done. Is there any good reason why the Scottish Football League should not admit us to Division 3?
James F. Hopefully what will happen wiil be more akin to a matter/anti matter encounter.
Annihilation!
Philvis
Or another way
Ignorance is no defence in law!
Euro 2012 –
Sicilian bookies offering
England 19/10
Italy 19/10.
Draw 21/10..
Very very hot —-way down south.
Enjoy The Silence
depechemodecsc
What impact, if any, is Lord Hodge’s investigation likely to have on Green’s purchase of the RFCIA assets (could it be overturned and the assets re-offered to the highest bidder?) and perhaps more importantly on the timing of various events on the coming weeks/months? Could it delay the 4 July vote? Or the TUPE transfer of those RFCIA employees willing to join Sevco 5088?
Auldheid
This is what Green, the Hoardes and the MSM want you, me and everyone to believe. That there is a rangers. Punishment PROVES there is a Rangers because it was Rangers that sinned, therefore a punished body is Rangers.
This is NOT what we want. We want sevco to be sevco and Rangers to have died, buried and staked in the Heart. It has died because its sins were to great to live.
Sevco MUST apply in the normal way to any vacancy in the SFL and compete with other interested parties.
If it cannot do that in time for next season then the place must go to another bidder and then sevco should wait for the next available opportunity.
In my view, following the rules COMPLETELY WITHOUT PUNISHMENT will kill them DEAD.
No SPL, no SFL will result ina BREAK and everyone will then know 100% that Rangers FC have DIED.
End of.
NO PUNISHMENT. JUST DEATH.
HH
Happy Birthday to the little magician Lubo Moravcik
Vmhan on 22 June, 2012 at 13:05 said:
Cheers.
The core idea is that subscribers to Celtic TV who can watch the games live, which means Overseas subscribers, pay a bit more than present and the excess is transferred into a holding account. Once that account has enough to pay for a bum on a seat for the season that seat is offered to a supporter who cannot pay to attend. There could be full rate SB seats and conscessionary rate seats. Celtic get income from an unsold seat now being paid for by a number of supporters and occupied by one or more depending on how many sign up..
It need not be the same supporter each home game and the administration of who gets it could be a responsibility the Kano Foundation take (to meet your cost point)
If you are in the UK you cannot watch the game live so it would not have the same argument for UK residents. Indeed if you already have an SB and subscribe to Celtic TV I would suggest you are already doing your bit.
What is needed is an appreciation that if you are watching Celtic games live the cost of putting that team on the park to watch has to be spread as evenly as possible over those watching.
˙˙ʇɐǝs ɐ ǝʞɐʇ ‘ᴚǝʇsɐɔuop ˙ʇxǝu ǝᴚ,noʎ ‘ʎᴚǝısoɥ ǝɥʇ oʇ ǝɯoɔןǝʍ ‘ןןǝqdɯɐɔ ˙pǝsoɥ ɔɟᴚ – z ʍoᴚ on 22 June, 2012 at 14:03 said:
This is exactly what I have being saying all the time.
With other clubs, such as Gretna, Airdrie, Third Lanark, there was a BREAK. The illusion of continuity was broken.
It’s all about PERCEPTION. And we know the MSM/LL if nothing else are very good at managing the establishment ( now former) clubs perception.
A BREAK will mean REALITY can finally be ACCEPTED. Even by the pathologically in denial hun hordes.
It will happen.
Has no one noticed the last paragraph of Lord HawHawHodges statement wherein he says that he doesn’t want the zombies out of administration until he’s conducted and concluded the enquiry into the duffers possible conflict of interest?
Can this buffer be serious?
He’s the one who gave the nod & wink to the duffers in the first place.
What is he afraid of? Can HMRC stop him from pulling this cunning stunt?
I smell a rat…a very big one, in wig and ermine.
Auld Neil Lennon heid on 22 June, 2012 at 13:41 said:
I’ve felt that same reaction after certain OF games. I’m sure I unwittingly scared my kids during some games in the 80s. I didn’t like how I was beginning to behave and some of the thoughts circulating in my head. I also had to make a conscious decision to take a step back and bite my tongue.
I’m glad that I won’t see an OF game for a long while and hopefully not ever again. I can live very happily without it and feel a lot better for it.
It has emerged direct debits are being paid into accounts held by the soon-to-be-liquidated ‘oldco’ Rangers after the club’s new owners failed to make the necessary banking arrangements.
Rangers chief executive Charles Green said the funds were ring-fenced in a secure account, but the required legal process is only in the early stages and could take four to six weeks, meaning fans’ money is not being held securely for the newco club’s use.
Blantrye Tim
Cheers for the info
HH
Philvis @ 13:48,
Fairly & Squarely must be a popular saying amongst Foriegn English speakers, as many Ex-Gers seem to use it.
Either that or words are being put in their mouth.
That being the case you would’ve thought the journo would have the good grace to explain the definition.
MWD
If you’re around, my battery died. Just in case you text back and thought that I was ignoring your sorry ass!!
miki67
They were going to be in admin for a further 5-7 weeks. Lord Haw-Haw wants the report within 3 weeks. I cannot see how he could interfere now liquidation has been declared and there are signed contracts with Green.
€15,000 raised, plus a €5,000 donation for the Merkle Banner.
Bidder from Barcelona, I think.
Auldheid,
Happy Birthday, young fella’.
Around 1968 -72, I stopped going to games against them. The atmosphere was vile and, like you, I didn’t like what it did to me.
Long before that, I stopped talking football to any of them and, indeed to most supporters of other clubs.
I found that,even talking to “neutrals”, it wasn’t long before their anti-Celtic views would emerge.
Incidentally, there was one club’s supporters whom I could generally talk football with. Aberdeen.
The cheeky “Angela Merkel thinks we’re at work” flag which turned into a Twitter sensation has been auctioned off to raise money for good causes.
Iris R&D and Glendun Group won with a joint bid of 15,800 euros.
It will be split between the Children’s Medical and Research Foundation in Dublin and the Oscar Appeal, set up to help provide treatment for Oscar Knox, a Belfast boy with a rare disease.
The flag was auctioned off on Friday morning on RTE 2FM’s Ryan Tubridy show.
Dublin pub Copper Face Jacks lost the auction but still donated 5,000 euros to the cause.
The flag grabbed headlines around the world, becoming the most read story on the BBC News site for three days and making appearances in a number of Irish newspapers, on US television and on the front page of Germany’s Bild newspaper.
The friends behind the flag, Gerry Nolan, Richie Tuohy, Richie Leahy, Eoin Cantwell and Eoin O’Brien were taken by surprise at the speed their internet meme went viral.
“It’s funny because we were just a few lads who got a flag made and went on the beer,” Richie Tuohy said.
“We knew we wanted to make a flag and hoped our friends at home might be able to spot it during the games but we couldn’t believe the popularity of the flag.”
Oscar made his own flag in hospital “my ma thinks I’ll be in bed early.” Stephen Knox came across the flag on Twitter while staying in hospital with his three-year-old son, Oscar, who was being treated for neuroblastoma, a rare disease which mainly affects children.
Oscar had been allowed to stay up late to watch the Ireland Euro 2012 game with his daddy so they decided to make their own flag and send a picture to the boys.
His flag “my ma thinks I’ll be in bed early” became another instant hit online.
The Merkel Lads, as they have become known, were so touched by the picture they decided to auction their flag on RTÉ to raise money for the toddler.
The boys arrived back in Dublin on Wednesday evening and drove from the airport straight up to Mallusk to meet Oscar and see each others’ flags as well play a bit of football.
Oscar was delighted with the meeting referring to the Limerick lads as “his new best friends.”
Glendun and Iris R&D intend to donate the Merkel Flag back to Oscar
Down with this sort of thing!
Thunder rumblin’ over the East End. Can only assume Lenny’s back at work.
ASonOfDan on 22 June, 2012 at 14:16 said:
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Thank you. Paranoia meter out of the red zone.
HH!
Bada Bing
Some more apt DM songs
Question of Time
Suffer Well
Policy of (un)Truth
Condemnation
Barrel of a Gun
Wrong
Stripped(of titles)
Leave in Silence
Here is the (big) House
Depechemode csc
All this talk about disliking the other mob making us as bad as the other mob … dear oh dear. I have written some bad things about them over the years, and I figure that I can respond to how I feel about that with a song.
Take it away ladies ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHH8bfPhusM&feature=related
The Lizard King on 22 June, 2012 at 12:34 said:
greenjedi on 22 June, 2012 at 11:49 said:
“Financially Celtic would make a lot more money with the new club in the SPL and we have all seen the evidence that the bottom line is their king.”
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Greenjedi (from last thread) – may I ask what are your estimates that would illustrate this to be likely true?
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Been at lunch, sorry forthe delayin replying.
I believe that to be true for the followin reasons.
1. Even if a new club is allowed into the SPl, they will not be able to compete with us so we are as close to be guaranteed a crack at the CL every year, even more so than now.
2. There would be a better TV deal, better TV deal means more money
3. Better sponsorship deals
4. A guaranteed sell out of at least one game a season (mibbie 2 if they couldfinish top 6)
Now all of those mean more money and the PLC are always telling us every income stream is prized.
Now however I want the huns new co deid, I don’t even want them in Division 3. I want them to be nothing more than a lingering bad smell. However I cannot say hand on heart the board do, could anyone?
What are the basic requirements for a football club to gain admission to the SFL?
Does the three year audited accounts condition apply?
If so, then Nuclub can not meet the basic criteria for top class football.
˙˙˙˙ʇɐǝs ɐ ǝʞɐʇ ‘ᴚǝʇsɐɔuop ˙ʇxǝu ǝᴚ,noʎ ‘ʎᴚǝısoɥ ǝɥʇ oʇ ǝɯoɔןǝʍ ‘ןןǝqdɯɐɔ ˙pǝsoɥ ɔɟᴚ – z ʍoᴚ on 22 June, 2012 at 14:03 said:
I would agree that the illusion of continuity is important and I’m just waiting for the players to say “So long and thanks for the fish” to break it.
My point though is that the conditions I set out would most probably be viewed and certainly portrayed by MSM as fitting and in arguing against them we become the villains.
However, reality, as ever, marches to the beat of its own drum and its not a lambeg.
thomthethim CQN (genuine) Badge Wearer on 22 June, 2012 at 14:25 said:
Yup it is part of the National Club Licensing finance criteria.
But unlike licensing for the SPL an exception case does not have to be made to UEFA so they might get one if they can demonstrate a credible business case.
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/bin-succulent-lamb-humble-pie-rangers/1975
greenjedi on 22 June, 2012 at 14:25 said:
There will be reduced ticket sales if Newco start in the SPL.
If they were to start in an SPL2 there would still be anger, but faced with giving up support altogether less supporters are likely to walk away than if its an SPL start point.
Its not that there will or will not a be a cost to Celtic, it is will the cost be manageable?
I could provide clarity and direction for Sevco but I’d get banned from the site.
U
Earlier I posted reservations about those club chairmen who are apparently coming out against newco.
If I am wrong, and on the 4th of July they put their money where their mouths currently are; it could fairly described as one of the greatest examples in history of shits deserting a drowning rat.
Excuse the mild crudity.
Big G on 22 June, 2012 at 14:38 said
Am liking the Dons fan’s suggestion about how exactl;y their Chairman ought to behave at the meeting:
“Wearing a t-shirt, holding a sign and sporting a cap all with the word ‘NO’ written on it, the Aberdeen chairman should walk in denying it is a nice day, saying no, he didn’t ‘have a good journey’ and declining any offer of refreshment. At the start of the meeting, before the prelims are over with, Stewart Milne should stand up and shout ‘No’ across the table. He should repeat this mantra all the way to the car like a very poor 2 Unlimited tribute act and should not stop until he is safely out of Glasgow and up the M9. Just for the avoidance of doubt, ye ken?”
Yep punish the old huns for cheating strip them of their tainted titles.
Tell Sevco thank you for your enquiry to join the SPL but the rules mean you have to join the sfl and work ur way up through legitmate success.
Best of luck old chap but don’t let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
could someone explain the joke on here about hateley’s ” like a new signing” come from. who was he talking about. i was out of town for a while and missed it.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 22 June, 2012 at 14:23 said:
Its as OK not to be ready as it is to be ready.