When you have a potential loss to the tax payer of £75m, allegations of tax irregularities, political interference, alleged sporting malfeasance and stand of the brink of the largest corporate failure in Scottish history (discounting the bailed-out RBS) the profile of the story rises above the blogs and regular Scottish media.
Alex Thomson, chief correspondent for Channel 4 News, a man who reports from war zones, interviews prime ministers and presidents, decided to look into how the SFA were handling the current crisis in Scottish football. Yesterday he blogged on the subject, raising many of the questions we have asked in recent months.
On Twitter this morning he reported his experience in trying to get some sense out of the SFA, this is what he said:
“SFA say President Campbell Ogilvie is ‘distancing himself from the current Rangers investigation’ but did not explain how.
“Campbell Ogilvie ‘did not know’ about EBT contract when he was Rangers FC secretary?
“When we asked why not – that was his job – SFA said they didn’t know.
“SFA say their President and fmr Ranger secretary Campbell Ogilvie will not be interviewed by c4news about what he knew…
“SFA say their President Campbell Ogilvie ‘has no plans to stand aside from his job pending current Rangers probes…
“Interesting SFA have just accused me of ‘lying’, ‘pig-headedness’ and then put the phone down mid-conversation….
“all because I put their own statement back to them that Campbell Ogilvie denied knowing about EBTs at Rangers…
“And suggested there might be a perceived conflict of interest in his current position until the investigations are complete”
Three weeks ago we suggested that Ogilvie’s position as SFA president was untenable, saying “The association cannot have a president embroiled in a tax evasion scam which, even before a verdict has been decided, has already caused untold harm to his former club and the reputation Scottish football.”
The SFA have been able to dismiss pleas for sporting integrity and ethical standards from the blogsphere while the mainstream media have either chased the hapless fall-guy, Craig Whyte, or refused to take the Improper Registration of Rangers players seriously.
SFA chief executive, Stewart Regan, was flushed out his slumber by Mr Thomson’s comments this morning, Tweeting to the reporter, “Please could you confirm who you have spoken to. thank you.”
Stewart, if you really need to ask that question, you’re in more trouble than I thought. There are several thousand CQN’ers who could help answer that one.
Campbell Ogilvie and the SFA cannot hide from the facts of this crisis. He is president of the SFA and both he and the association must acknowledge there is work to do. We can only hope Uefa finally decide to take a look.
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Still lurking….
Still watching…
Still waiting…
Keep faith.
Awe Naw, Have you ever heard of a website called Expat shield? It is for VPN access whilst out of the UK. The catch is that it is free but with Ads (I use IAPS for VPN thats costs aroun $100 per year). Just wondering if you has heard about it (or anyone else for that matter). I was looking to download it but the free part is sticking in my head
How do you make a donation to this ‘Fighting Fund’ is Aunt Sally and the Cardigan going to accost me in Sauchiehall Street with blue bibs on, asking me to support ‘The peeeeepppuuulll’.
greenmaestro
Note how the bouncing of Craig Whyte out of the picture is not mentioned. MMhhhhhhhhhhhhh…
Now that is because Craig Whyte is VERY MUCH STILL in the picture and with Murray , Ticketus and D&P knowledge.
They are lying to the gullible mob yet again !!! No shame
And of course the daft ugly rotten mob will be sucked in yet again such is Animal instinct
I reckon animal instinct is far more an appropriate discussion than cognitive dissonance or categorical imperatives.
Much much easier to witness
Hail Hail
Auldheid.
I won’t pretend to be an expert on protestantism, but being brought up in that environment and having lived with a Catholic partner (twice!) I can honestly say there’s no obvious difference.
I’ve always felt the similarities far outweigh the differences, but, then that’s another discussion.
Either way, apologies go a long way in most Western cultures, and are inherent in some Eastern cultures the ommission of an apology would be staggering. So, I think we’re entitled to wonder who, when and where this apology is coming from. And from a more objective perspective; how can those associated with Rangers not recognise the potential gain an apology, contrition, and possibly offering to accept some dire penalties might offer them. If they offer to have their arm cut off, might we not react by saying it’s ok, we’ll just take a hand… The more they fight this, the worse it is likely to get.
For sure, there is a good book or 20 to be written about how all this has unfolded.
The ‘walking away brown brogues’ fund.
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Hail Hail
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I see the “Fighting Fund” is up and running. A rangers supporting (sensible) pal mentioned it to me. Hopefully they will be taking donations or contributions via Paypal. That way when they shout “We are the Paypal” it will at last make sense.
Philvis said @ 14:22
“Rangers are the Daleks of Scottish football.”
My grandson is a big fan of Harry Potter and when my wife asked him “What’s a Dementor”. The wee fellow replied “It is something that takes away your happiness”. I think that’s a better description of RFCIA.
FJIW on 13 March, 2012 at 16:10 said:
I remember the John Gordon (from Newport on Tay) game well. Does anyone remember him calling Big Billy over to him. When the big man reached Gordon he towered above him with his chest puffed out and frightened the cr*p out of him. The Rangers eh! Cheats then and cheats now.
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I think you’re confusing the two games. Billy towered over Andrew Waddell at Celtic Park Other game involving Gordon was at Ibrox. I’m sure Big Jock was manager and that the Celtic players refused to restart the game after the goal but someone from the club came out to them and ordered them to get on with the game.
Paul, keep them running. Ignorance of the law is no excuse and neither is ‘uncertainty’.
While they are on the run,could someone find out what compensation S.F.A. got for Walter who was under contract to them when he went to Rangers. I understand that they did not even ask for anything.
Re-Post from earlier-
Whilst there appears to be the lull before the storm, a call out to Bhoys and Ghirls in the Swindon and Thames Valley hinterland.
There is an ‘Evening with John Hartson’ charity supper at Swindon Town FC on Thursday 22nd March 7pm. Supper, comedian and auction all for a fantastic £15.
All proceeds to the Great Western Hospital Breast Cancer Centre.
Please contact me for tickets by leaving a post for Paul67, who will forward you my email.
HH
Celtfish
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 13 March, 2012 at 16:33 said:
Thanks for that..very interesting site
Aw Naw
Am loving this, and you know this will be spun up as great news on the news and radio all night. I mean what could posibly stand in the way of the Blue Nits now.
MBB – he’s out the window, the SFA say he can’t run a club so he’ll be easy to handle.
Hector – Will be falling over himself to do a deal. 0.0001p in the pound at best, and the fighting fund will likely stretch to the £35 pound needed to cover that, if not the pension fund’ll hardly notice that amount escaped.
It’s all looking rosey, er.. bluey or something anyway.
http://celticfanzone.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/anysparechingemister.jpg
” enny munny furra fightin fund?”
Not Celtic, Not rangers but interesting reading I thought.
Portugal’s Professional Football League (LPFP) has approved the entry of two additional teams to widen the Premier League to 18 clubs and its president said it would challenge the current TV rights bargaining model in European courts.
“The league’s council of [club] presidents approved an expansion of the competition to 18 clubs in the 2012/13 season,” the LPFP said in a statement late on Monday.
The expansion would be achieved by allowing the bottom two teams this season to avoid relegation.
The decision, which provoked a heated exchange between club delegates, still needs to be ratified by the Portuguese Football Federation and Portugal’s National Sports Council. Some of the clubs which voted against the proposal said they would challenge the measure.
The LPFP also delegated president Mario Figueiredo with the task of preparing a complaint to the European Union about the current TV rights bargaining model that privileges bigger clubs.
“This was an historic day, we managed to gather support for a structural question and an eventual complaint to end the monopoly of TV rights,” Figueiredo said.
He wants the LPFP to be the single negotiator of TV rights for all of the Portuguese Premier League instead of the current model whereby TV contracts are negotiated on a club-by-club basis.
I understand the fightingfunders are encouraging people not to use the paypal route because it will cost about £4 to process each transaction and this would be lost to the cause……..
So should we all be making a £1 donation via paypal? This would result in a net loss of £3?
Stupidhuns
HH
KOJO 1835
Yer a rascal,so ye are….
greenmaestro
Whyte may be out of the SFA picture but he is well embedded into the legal structure. HE IS RANGERS BIGGEST SHAREHOLDER
Paul Murray is more out of the picture than Craig Whyte.
Paul Murray has far more blood on his hands as far as the SFA should be concerned.
They all have so little that even when they bandy together they dont have enough…….when I see Joe Ledley I go outta my head and ?
Hail Hail
ASonOfDan on 13 March, 2012 at 16:41 said:
Is one of the clubs going in Celtic? Or will the Dutch league expand to 20?
I don’t think PayPal charges for gisfts/ donations.
Maybe they have to be a registered charity or something else ligit; like registered to pay their taxes.
IMO the reason that Murray /MSM /DuffnDuffer are trying to air brush CW from the ragers is because they need the hordes to dig down the back of their sofas again and they know there is no chance of them falling for that gig when the MBB is first in line for a divvy .
SDM tried that one before and was left with 50m worth of egg on his face ,it makes no sense to buy ragers before the BTC bill comes in and I believe that was never the plan ,os what has changed their mind .
1. being demoted to Div3 …..too many cohorts for that to happen
2. just to say WE TRIED …..before the inevitable happens
3. have they realised that Hector is going to keep them hanging on till April 6th ,when new rules come into force for HMRC to go after the newco for oldco’s debt .
hail hail
90 something per cent of this site is now fixated by Rangers and gives little interest in our own team.
I wonder if posters are Celtic supporters or Rangers haters.
Greenmaestro
Maybe the £4 goes to an overseas non-tax account ;-)
HH
Aberdeen fans the Dons Trust take strong stand on Ragers Newco, tonight on Sportsound
* makes clear I would never listen to BBC anything *
RIP Jimmy Johnstone – the greatest Celt ever
Murray said: “We may not need all of the working capital set aside as you would hopefully have season ticket money coming in about the start of May.”
I thought we had already established four years worth of season tickets have been sold off. Is that not why Ticketus are involved in talks with Murray in the first place?
Stephenpollock
Very true
I tick both boxes :>)
RIP JINKY
jude2005 is Neil Lennon, 16:14
Patience my man, patience. The wheels are slowly turning and they are heading to one great big jelly and ice cream beano
stephenpollock on 13 March, 2012 at 16:49 said:
“I wonder if posters are Celtic supporters or Rangers haters.”
When you work it out be sure to let us know.
Dougie McDonald and Hugh Dallas never had any plans to step down – either.
Can the Admin sell rangers even if Whyte doesn’t want to sell??
The Blue Knights bid just looks like the same way Whyte got control, use Ticketus money upfront, then get the fans to buy shares.
Steinreignedsupreme on 13 March, 2012 at 16:54 said:
Murray said: “We may not need all of the working capital set aside as you would hopefully have season ticket money coming in about the start of May.”
This gets funnier by the minute. So now not only can they buy the club, pay off all the debts and get it back onto a sound financial footing, they will actually have money left over too!!
Deluded just doesn’t even begin to describe the sheer financial illiteracy of it all.
stephenpollock
Do not underestimate what is going on over Ibrokes way ,if it’s proven that that lot have been cheating the rest of Scottish football for nearly two decades then
IMO we would be doing our club a disservice to allow their antics to be swept under the carpet .It has to be reported on at every opportunity ,as we, the Celtic fans are the only ones that will shine a light on what they are up to .
Maybe then you can watch and discuss our team actually playing in a game that is not rigged in favour of one team .
hail hail
stephenpollock – It’s natural to have a healthy interest in the actions of your competitors or rivals. But really, hate is a very strong word. I mean, it’s not as if we’re singing about being up to our knees in their blood, is it.
gerry
No.
Whyte & D&P are just buying time until the FTT decision.
3 more weeks of this and then the public beheading
Hail Hail