SFA error in law

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The SFA have made an error in interpreting their laws.  They refuse to discipline Calum Butcher as the rules do not allow them to switch a punishment retrospectively.  This is correct, but the rules do allow retrospective action which the referee has not seen.

Craig Thomson saw the Butcher-van Dijk incident inasmuch as he was looking at the players, but didn’t see it well enough to call an infringement.  SFA rules permit retrospective action under these circumstances.

The matter becomes theoretically more complicated by the involvement of the assistant referee, Graham Chambers.  Chambers also saw the incident inasmuch as he was also looking at the players, but he didn’t have a clear understanding of what happened either.  He couldn’t even identify the Dundee United player involved.
The rules on retrospective action do not require a referee to be looking in the opposite direction before the Disciplinary Panel become involved.  A ref can see the incident but not see if sufficiently well to correctly report what happened.  This is the basis under which Nadir Ciftci has been asked to attend the Panel.

Both referees on Sunday saw the incident.  Neither saw it well enough to bear witness to the actions of the two Dundee United players involved.  SFA laws allow both to be examined retrospectively.

Aiden Connolly, at the very least, has a case to answer for diving in the box.  Should the SFA ban Virgil van Dijk while turning a blind eye to Connolly and incorrectly interpreting their own rules on Butcher, and almighty row will kick off on the competency of those who govern our game.

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  1. mike in toronto on

    Lurkin

     

     

    she is at a conference in Arizona at the moment, and doesn’t get back home until 6 am on Sunday, so, will see how she does … but I think she would enjoy it.

     

     

    She is actually going to a conference in Aberdeen in May, and wants me to tag along … she actually suggested going to see a game at Celtic Park …. so, that might work …

  2. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Steinreignedsupreme 14:36

     

    I still remember the recent rumour on RM is that Dave King was desperate to pump in £30m to Sevco.

     

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    King himself said last year:

     

    I have lost £20m in Rangers already and I’m happy to lose another £30m because I love the team.

     

    Now he’s saying £20m, but he’ll only put in half…….

  3. kikinthenakas on

    What channel is the game on on Sunday?

     

    Over in Costa Del Sol at the mo

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

  4. !!Bada Bing!! on

    what is the stars-good man ,i sent tips on to a few bhoys,Moon Racer in the last to come :)

  5. mike in toronto on

    GlassTwoThirdsFull

     

     

    15:15 on 11 March, 2015

     

     

    Steinreignedsupreme 14:36

     

    I still remember the recent rumour on RM is that Dave King was desperate to pump in £30m to Sevco.

     

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    King himself said last year:

     

    I have lost £20m in Rangers already and I’m happy to lose another £30m because I love the team.

     

    Now he’s saying £20m, but he’ll only put in half…….

     

     

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    SteinReigned

     

     

    I think you must have misheard … I think what he said was ‘he was going to pump them for about $30 million…. hey, everyone since DM has… why not me?’

  6. Careful With That Tax, Moonbeams on

    tonydonnelly67

     

    15:10 on 11 March, 2015

     

    All I’m saying is.. I’m sceptical about his motives ..

     

    Cheating officials have never been high on his list

     

    of priorities before.

     

    Even when John Reid was there?

     

     

     

     

    What’s doctor death got to do with anything ? We’re talking about Lawwell .. No ?

     

     

    In his day, the emphasis was more on how supposedly damaging the green brigade were to the club.

  7. South Of Tunis on

    mike in toronto @ 15 02.

     

     

    I reached that saturated stultified state a long time ago..

     

     

    PTFC pal reports on a Blue Nose at his work going to the game last night ( first time in ages).Asked what it was like – Blue Nose replied that he was surprised that there were no vultures in the sky.

  8. Not to be pedantic, but during the first half there where two off sides I thought to my self, hmmmmmm I’d like to see that again in the replay that they show when they are off side against Celtic, I didn’t get to see them……….

  9. MIT,

     

     

    see what happens wen your on this blog…..she feels left out of a wee corner of yur life…..definitely both go to a game at Paradise in May…..hopefully a full house roaring ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

  10. careful with that tax, moonbeams

     

    Ahhhhhhhh, now your showing your hand, your just anti board, ah well you have some friends here, my point about MRJohn Ried was, did therefs not go on strike then, and PL was in charge?

  11. Scottish match officials are upset with the avalanche of flak that has come their way this season.

     

    BBC Scotland has learned that officials are concerned that their integrity is constantly being questioned by some clubs and individuals.

     

    And there are increasing fears among referees over personal safety as a result of public criticism.

     

    The decision to take strike action was reached at a referees’ union meeting held on Sunday afternoon, with unanimous backing.

     

     

    MY SPORT: DEBATE

     

    Give your reaction to this story

     

    There are six Scottish Premier League games scheduled for next weekend. There is also a full card in the Scottish Football League.

     

    The ALBA Challenge Cup final between Queen of the South and Ross County at McDiarmid Park is under threat, as are any Scottish Cup replays.

     

    “Referees are at the end of their tether, and it’s not just how it’s impacting on them but it’s the impact it’s all having on their families and business lives,” former referee Kenny Clark told BBC Scotland.

     

    “Businesses in which referees are employed are being targeted by fans sending hate emails to employers saying things like, ‘why are you employing this guy?'”

     

    Celtic have voiced concerns about refereeing standards this season and last and BBC Scotland has also learned that the Glasgow club would welcome the strike.

     

    It is understood Celtic hope that it could lead to a wider independent investigation and want Uefa to intervene in what they think is a refereeing crisis.

     

     

    Paatelainen has sympathy for refs

     

     

    On Thursday, Celtic chairman John Reid called for the resignation of referee Dougie McDonald, saying “his position is completely untenable” after he was warned by the Scottish Football Association for lying about his reasons for overturning a penalty award.

     

    In the wake of McDonald’s admission of deception, SFA chief executive Stewart Regan has promised an overhaul of how referees are disciplined.

     

    Celtic manager Neil Lennon was critical of the McDonald episode and has since questioned refereeing decisions after defeats to Rangers and Hearts.

     

    And Celtic striker Gary Hooper caused a storm when he said the thought referees “want” to give decisions against his team because they are one of the world’s big clubs.

     

    Politicians have also been getting in on the act, with SNP sport spokesman Pete Wishart calling for referees to be forced to declare which team they support.

     

    Clark is in no doubt that it is the pressure from Celtic that has led to the strike action.

     

    “John Reid put the tin lid on it in terms of the meeting today,” he added. “His comments have toppled the table over.

     

    “I think what the referees are trying to do is put down a marker and saying to clubs, ‘we can’t continue like this or we’ll end up with no referees!’

     

    “It’s only a matter of time before a referee or a member of his family is physically attacked because of how it’s being whipped up. Clubs are effectively encouraging it up by what they’re doing.”

     

    Motherwell are at home to Hearts on Sunday in a match that is scheduled for live television coverage and manager Craig Brown believes strike action would unfairly harm his club.

  12. Steinreignedsupreme on

    GlassTwoThirdsFull 15:15 on 11 March, 2015

     

     

    And Sevco appear to be looking for volunteers to carry out work at the Crumble Dome.

     

     

    Maybe we should send along a lorry load of, erm … demolition men.

  13. mike in toronto on

    These guys say it much better than I could …

     

     

    Franny,

     

     

    “You have to do the right thing… You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result.” — Mohandas K. Gandhi

     

     

    TD67

     

     

    “Management is doing things right; leadership is doing the right things.”

     

    — Peter F. Drucker

  14. Sorry, is somebody seriously suggesting that PL is trying to harm the club?

     

     

    We might not all agree on how we get there but I am pleased to say Celtic are currently a club united in one direction.

     

     

    PL has to distance himself from things like Irish Republicanism or accusations of biased opinions for the good of the club.

  15. Steinreignedsupreme

     

    14:36 on

     

    11 March, 2015

     

    mike in toronto 14:34 on 11 March, 2015

     

     

    I still remember the recent rumour on RM is that Dave King was desperate to pump in £30m to Sevco.

     

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    Is that the interview with Jackson in the Record where he stated he was going to spend his kid’s inheritance on the Sevco? Here it is :

     

     

    “KJ: Isn’t this a high risk strategy for a club which has come through such financial trauma in the last few years?

     

     

    DK: It wouldn’t be a loan. It would be equity. The club wouldn’t have to repay it.

     

     

    I have lost £20m in Rangers already and I’m happy to lose another £30m because I love

     

    the team.

     

     

    I don’t want to be arrogant but it might be easier for me to lose £30m than it is for some fans to afford season tickets.

     

     

    Some of them struggle to put shoes on their kids’ feet but they buy season tickets because they love Rangers. I am the same. I just happen to be in a more fortunate position and I want to do something about it. I am not going away.

     

     

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    KJ: Have you ring-fenced the money you think will be required?

     

     

    DK: No, but I have had discussions with my family and told them: ‘This is your inheritance I’ll be spending.’

     

     

    And even though they are all South Africans they have said: ‘Dad, go for it!’

     

     

    It’s their inheritance but they have said: ‘Spend it and don’t worry about it.’”

     

     

    :-)

  16. mike in toronto on

    Natknow…. I’m guessing that was before he ‘won’ his tax case with the SA taxman… :)

  17. Steinreignedsupreme on

    NatKnow 15:45 on 11 March, 2015

     

     

    It’s a classic – and of course they all fell for it.

     

     

    The Devil is in the detail.

  18. Thomson is a solicitor and his good lady is a school teacher.

     

     

    They have had a new baby recently so mibbe his mind is elsewhere.

     

     

    I can understand that!

  19. Mike in Toronto.

     

    Thanks for that, great version of Sam Cooke classic.

     

    Have to say Sam is one of my all time favourites.

     

    Only when I read a detailed biography did I realise how involved with the civil rights movement he was. Made me like him even more.

     

    A change is gonna come was an incredibly brave song to record for its time.

  20. I see the X Factor is holding auditions at Ibrox next month, every little helps.

     

    A couple of my mates who are regulars would argue the X factor has been on show all year.

     

    HH

  21. mike in toronto on

    Jimmynotpaul

     

     

    Gregory Porter’s Be Good is the best song I have heard for many years. He is great live.

     

     

    Sam Cooke is one of my favourites as well… both for his music, and for what he stood for.

     

     

    Another like that, whose biography is a good read, is Nat King Cole. another brave guy who stood up for what was right. Plus, maybe my favourite musician (or at least, near the top of the list).

     

     

    Hail hail

  22. Oh,FFS.Mrs TB sitting watching the racing with me,says”Can I put a bet on”I said “Yes,pick one from this race,you can put a tenner on”She picks Dodging bullets,wins at 9/2,next up is Folkestone,she wants to put £10 of her winnings on this race,Masterful act,wins at 2/1.

     

    I have not a penny on either!!!!!!.Now she is gloating like fek.”See,I dont know what all that studying is about”

     

    I am raging.

  23. Careful With That Tax, Moonbeams on

    tonydonnelly67

     

    15:23 on 11 March, 2015

     

    careful with that tax, moonbeams

     

    Ahhhhhhhh, now your showing your hand, your

     

    just anti board, ah well you have some friends

     

    here, my point about MRJohn Ried was, did therefs

     

    not go on strike then, and PL was in charge?

     

     

     

     

    They did .. The foreign officials were a breath of fresh air that weekend .. But, I’m not convinced it was Mr Lord Baron Reid of Cardowan or PL ‘alone’ who instigated the reason for them to strike.. SNP MP Pete Wishart, asking for referees to declare what team they support before officiating games .. Certainly helped them through their toys oot the pram :)

     

     

    Scepticism, doesn’t equate to ANTI anything.

  24. !!Bada Bing!! on

    glasgowdave

     

     

    15:53 on 11 March, 2015

     

     

    I see the X Factor is holding auditions at Ibrox next month, every little helps.

     

    A couple of my mates who are regulars would argue the X factor has been on show all year.

     

    HH

     

    They will be auditioning for plumbers, brickies sparks etc….

  25. Careful With That Tax, Moonbeams on

    I’m ANTI vodafone though .. Signals atrocious ..

     

     

    Mon the O2 ! :)

  26. careful with that tax, moonbeams

     

    But anything that someone said the board had done it, you would find it very hard to convince, I’m guessing here now?

  27. Careful With That Tax, Moonbeams on

    Think lenny had just as much to do with it .. No ?

     

     

    He wasn’t on the board, nearer was Wishart :)

  28. South Of Tunis on

    Sam Cooke- A Change is Gonna Come.

     

     

    Great choon – originally released as the b side to Shake..( RCA – Victor 1964..Shake was covered by Otis Redding – a blistering ” live performance on Ready Steady Go.

     

     

    Very rarely performed live – a difficult arrangement and the man found singing it to be a real downer.

     

     

    A fairly easy single to find on 45 – it was reissued 5/ 6 times.Sometimes as an A side.

  29. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Stuart McCall set to be new #Rankers manager until the end of season, according to reports.

  30. GlasgowDave@15.53hrs.

     

     

    “I see the X Factor is holding auditions at Ibrox next month, every little helps.

     

    A couple of my mates who are regulars would argue the X factor has been on show all year.”

     

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    Wow, I wonder if the contestants will have to sign disclaimers. It’s a risky business singing in the dormant asbestos pit that is the crumbling castle Greyskull.

     

    Still I suppose masks of various assortments will be readily available.

     

     

    HH

  31. Was it only me who noticed a striking similarity between Schalke’s young sub, Leroy Sane and our very own Henrik??/ Thought the guy was amazing, any chance he would be in our price range I wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

     

    KINGLuBO

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