Scottish FA chief executive, Stewart Regan, this evening announced that the Association would not appeal against the Court of Session decision to rule in Rangers favour over the 12 month player registration ban imposed by a Judicial Panel for not paying social taxes between May 2011 and February 2012. Rangers didn’t pay social taxes in the period since February 2012, the period during which they launched their appeal.
I hear Rangers today served the ruling on the SFA and that the SFA have responded by informing the club that, under Fifa auspices, fresh proceedings will be raised against them for taking a civil court action, which will lead to a minimum punishment of Rangers being suspended from the Association.
The initial case will be referred back to the SFA Appellate Tribunal. Regan reminded us that Rangers appeal to the civil courts broke two SFA Articles and five Fifa statues. The tone and content of his statement demonstrated the frustration at the behaviour of the errant club. He suggested the SFA would tell clubs [Rangers] that they must accept and abide by the Articles of Association at next week’s AGM.
While it appears the Association is about to get tough, they are in the middle of a problem of the making of the SFA and, in particular, Mr Doncaster of the SPL. Here is the problem…
Rangers believe they are needed. This belief is absolute and has been reinforced by the people running our game, the very same people who have been rag-dolled by Rangers in recent weeks.
The SPL waited almost three months for Rangers to respond to their demand for information into what is allegedly the biggest scam in British sporting history. Despite this, throughout that time, the SPL chief executive campaigned vigorously for a Newco-Rangers to become the first club in Scottish football history to be parachuted into the top league.
It took the SPL 11 weeks to set a deadline. No wonder Clark, Whitehouse and Green think they can play hardball.
During this time the SFA, who are the only body competent to investigate if Rangers illegally registered players across all domestic competitions, have taken no action. The SFA president, who was an executive director of Rangers when they introduced the controversial EBTs and who received and EBT himself, has remained in position throughout.
Time for strong leadership, Mr Regan. Mr Doncaster, there’s always a career in the law.
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Off to the tower for me
Golden Jubilee = Diamond Jubilee
Hail Hail
mountblow tim 0735
Coulda been worse-what if it had really been Lizzie’s Diamond Shower this year?
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 1 June, 2012 at 07:39 said:
mountblow tim 0735
Coulda been worse-what if it had really been Lizzie’s Diamond Shower this year?
Hope its showers in certain areas of Glasgow whatever Jubilee
Hail Hail
BMCUW @ 07:24,
Yes it’s quite one thing to be safe in the Barclay’s PL, taking a huge level of debt into Championship means without getting promotion before the parachute payments run out ensures years of struggle.
I noticed though in recent seasons the relegated teams are very good at shedding their most expensive players, yet the teams still remain competitive.
It’s a balancing act and I wouldn’t be surprised to see some go bust.
I did like the description of R@gers as gone though.
Can I just say Rangers till July
The story that just keeps giving. Am I alone in enjoying every day of this circus? It keeps me entertained and laughing every day and every night. I want it to continue even though , unlike the stupids, I realise that the end of rangers is inevitable, hope it drags on a little longer even when I know this is cruelty to dumb animals. Lenny for Norwich you’re havin a laff but those away fans must have made an impression of what football should be about eh vhman and other CQN ers who made the pilgrimage. Hail Hail. The future is Green and Whyte : )
They wont suspend them. They will ban them from the cup for 3 years or something less trivial
C&P ALERT! From the DR,BUT PLEASE HAVE A LOOK AT THE THIRD COMMENT.
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And I’ll leave you all to think of your own comment on the magician owed £2100 after working for Craig Whyte……
It was the third one when I looked-now it’s the fourth one!
Here’s the comment I meant.
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Score: 2
Bob Mckay
7:48 AM on 1/6/2012
I do feel sorry for these businesses but he can rest assured all of the small creditors will be paid in full by the fans: we have already paid their bills once, as have the staff and players when Craig Whyte took Rangers money.
But the SFA says its Rangers fault???
Mr Magician, we will pay you from the RFFF.
Ps How many record staff are hurting todaY?
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I assume the poor fella ain’t holding his breath……..
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 1 June, 2012 at 06:55 said:
I must be getting more cynical in my old age. That gets released the same week that the Palestinian Youth movement praise the Green Brigade for their support. Twenty years, nothing – released this week. What are the odds.
It was never the Libyans anyway was it? More likely a multi country operation because of the Iran Air disaster.
May those poor people who died at Lockerbie rest in peace.
Whither the cash-strapped scrofulous Hillbillies the day?
MOUNTBLOW TIM 0753
No way,man-that’s a public health hazard.
All those unwashed heavy serge uniforms adorning heavy unwashed barely-humanforms sweating due to their exertions and the rain coming down on top?
Think of the collateral damage,ffs.
I made a delivery to a supermarket-ASDA in Melksham-yesterday,which is beside a sewage farm. It reminded me of a hot day in Sunny Saltcoats by the Broken Sewage Pipe,and a rainy 12th in Kilwinning.
I wouldnae wish it on anyone……….
Good morning fellow Celts from sunny London town
Paul67 – I’m willing to bet one the broken statues was the Infant of Prague..;-)
HH
M
From the Mccarra book, a quote from the Glasgow Observer in 1892-
‘ The thing is a mere business, in the hands of publicans and suchlike. Catholic charities get nothing out of the thousands of pounds passing through the Treasurer’s hands
‘Can we not get a Club that will carry out the original idea of Brother Walfrid?’
Today, 1st June, is the day after the day the cash ran out at RFC(IA).
Legally, the Admins can only to maintain the business in trade provided they have certainty of funding to cover running costs. That means Green must pony up.
Green has a problem though: He can only commit his investors’ funds if he has assurance that the business plan stands up. With clear risk that Rangers will be suspended from the SFA over the coming weeks for disciplinary issues, and expelled from the SPL for corrupting the competition since its inception, he can’t commit his investors’ funds with the necessary degree of confidence…
…unless he has assurance from SFA and SPL that he has nothing to worry about.
If Green ponies up, either he’s managed to get SFA/SPL to corrupt the Governance process, or he’s reckless with his investors’ money and looking at an awkward situation.
I am NL in NZ Tauranga 0812
Howdy,bud.
Now you’re into winter,you must be feeling homesick!
There was a wee discussion on here yesterday about place-names where you least expect them.
Prompted by Moscow being a wee village in Ayrshire.
New Zealand,I’m glad to say,is only about twelve miles away from Swindon,just past RAF Lyneham.
Expect me round for a barbie when your weather improves.
Mornin CQNrs,
Happy first day of June,
is this theeee month,
Have a great weekend,
HH
normal long weekend for me, working Tuesday…
paperwork day by the looks of it as everyone else seems to be off…
Glen Daly, very occasional poster and serial lurker will reach the big 40 so we are having a party on Sunday, not a jubilee party before anyone accuses him of that…..
Good Morning.
Can I ask that for just a moment you stop reading this blog altogether— and at the end of this very sentence just take a look at your surroundings and where you are exactly.
Now,if you have done that and had a good look around I have a question- and it is this.
When you woke up this morning, did you find that you were where you expected to be?
Yes?
No?
Were there any surprises? Did you find that you were in fact somewhere else completely– other than where you expected to be?
I suspect not.
The reason that I ask these questions is because I simply wish to review where some folk are this morning– and by the end of this missive I will leave you to judge whether or not various people find themselves somewhere completely and utterly unexpected– and whether or not others are not surprised at all at where they are.
Let’s start in the middle.
Some 4 weeks or so ago I took a phonecall from what turned out to be an angry man. Now the fella concerned is a friend with a passing interest in things a la Rangers FC and the SFA/SPL.
It was soon clear that he was more than a little annoyed– in fact the words he used were “i’m disgusted!”.
The reason for his ire was the seemingly planned, and at the time perceived as unstoppable, proposal to allow a Newco headed by Bill Miller to make fresh application to the SPL for entry into next year’s league in the event of his proposed CVA being rejected. In this way Rangers FC would survive with history intact but with debt dumped– should it come to that. The best of all worlds was the way that this plan was trumpeted.
Many of you will recall that Bill Miller was the surprise winner of the seemingly endless bidding war with all the favourites– The Blue Knights, Brian Kennedy, Bill Ng etc– seeming to fall at the 23rd fence and leaving Miller as the Foinavon of the day.
He was paraded in the winner’s enclosure by Duff & Phelps and the big push was on to bring Rangers out of Admin via one of his two solutions.
You will recall also that it was widely reported that Miller was seeking assurances from the SPL and possibly the SFA that Rangers would not meet with further sanctions, with the hidden threat being that he would walk away if he could not get such assurances and the result would be Armageddon for the whole of Scottish Football. After all Ally and Sandy were telling us that the SFA were harming their club by daring to inflict severe punishment– and the health or otherwise of that club was paramount— to them, to Duff and Phelps, and to the rest of Scottish football.
Whether all of this was totally true or not– it was this scenario that was widely pedalled in the wider press, encouraged by Duff & Phelps, and promoted by Super Ally with the result that the Ibrox faithful turned up in numbers for the last game of the season at Ibrox— and so giving the Gers some much needed additional income.
The Blues were saved! Hurrah for the blues! We could all move on and be positive yeah?
A solution for D&P, a solution for Rangers, a solution for the SFA & SPL– although maybe not so much of a solution for HMRC, the clubs that are owed money, the ordinary creditors and just about anyone else.
That is where they stood– just a few weeks ago.
Imagine then, that you have been sleeping for those weeks and having just woken up you want to see the outcome of that plan. Boy– have you woken up to a different vista? You have woken up in a completely different land.
Miller is gone completely– chased away by figures examined under a degree of due dilligence which brought a shock to the system, and by a fanbase who made it clear that the Yank had better go home.
The Blue Knights and Kennedy have been shown the door by D&P in favour of someone who had not been heard of before at all, and who is apparently offering more than they ever put on the table—- although they dispute that. Either way, it is clear that they were not coming to the table laden with gold for the creditors– or the club!
As for the suggestion that there will be no further sanctions– well the sanctions of the Independent Judicial Panel of first instance — transfer embargo, maximum fines and all— were upheld on judicial appeal– despite a vociferous, angry, and public series of protests from the club, its officials and its fans.
D&P however sought Judicial review of this process at the Court of Session in Edinburgh and succeeded at least in having the transfer ban declared null & void– only for the matter to be referred back to the appeal panel to impose what sanctions are available in law. These include the very real prospect of suspension or disqualification from the league. Further, the very process of going to court has brought about the direct attention of FIFA who have insisted and will insist on the proper regulation and punishment of a club who dares to try and deflect and detract from its supreme jurisdiction.
Warning- If you want to be a FIFA registered club you play by FIFA rules. If you don’t like it– go find another body to play under.
As a result, Rangers seem certain to face further sanction. Such sanctions seem to emanate from on high with the SFA having no choice to be party to following these through.
Further, those clubs in Scotland who appeared to be in favour of the Miller SPL fastrack plan for a Newco, have at least in part lost their appetite for supporting a rogue club managed by a Newco. The idea of a Newco with no penalties now seems like a far off country.
The clubs have decided that they will deal with any Newco application with the power to impose penalties on a case by case basis. Gone are the ideas of no penalties or penalties that could only be imposed should all this happen again in the future. Gone is the idea that even if there were to be any penalties they would be fixed and stated in advance– so that our preferred bidder– a creature of myth and legend— could know exactly where they stand as they go about trying to raise funds and investors.
All that anyone can say now is that Rangers will face some kind of sanction should further rule breaches be discovered, and those breaches will be dealt with on a case by case basis.
That creates more than a degree of uncertainty for investors does it not?
And how would Rangers fare on a case by case basis?
Well the Court of Session stint was not good.
The BBC documentary clearly showing the EBT situation for all those players and staff…. is not good.
The fact that no decision has been made on penalties prior to the SPL lawyers eventually receiving 5 boxes of documentation relating to dual contracts etc– is not good.
The fact that no decision has been made on penalties prior to the decision on the big tax case– is not good.
The fact that the CVA offer appears very VERY weak, seems to have little chance of success, and doesn’t do much for football clubs that are owed money— is not good.
The fact that Craig Wyte has said that he will simply not pay any fines imposed on him– is not good.
The fact that there is widespread speculation on further irregularities somewhere down the line… is not good.
The fact that the HMRC debt appears to have increased since the appointment of Duff & Phelps….. is .. eh… NOT GOOD!
In short— If D&P, Rangers PLC, Rangers FC, Ally McCoist or anyone else involved with Rangers thought they were heading for relative safety a few weeks ago aboard the good ship Miller, then they find today that the sea beneath them and the landscape in front of them has shifted considerably.
And all of this is at their own doing.
The SFA and the SPL are also in a very different place. Where weeks ago they were openly talking about what is good for the game as a whole and the financial disaster that may befall Scottish Football if they were to punish Rangers properly, the very possibility that FIFA might take an interest and come in and burn the blazers if the errant club is not dealt with properly deems that envisaged financial disaster as an irrelevance.
Yesterday the SFA stated that the actions of Rangers FC were regrettable, but more importantly intimated that :
“With our Annual General Meeting taking place on Wednesday, June 6, it will be appropriate to remind member clubs that by very dint of their membership of the Scottish FA, they accept and abide by the Articles of Association.”
In other words, on June 6th— long before any appellate judicial panel has reconvened to discuss Lord Glennie and his findings—– any club wishing to be a member next season will be asked to accept the earlier ruling by the Independent Judicial Panel or……….. seek another umbrella.
My guess is that if the appeal tribunal do ever convene as a result of Lord Glennie’s decision the quest for another umbrella will be deemed to be a lengthy one. The SFA cannot influence the decision of an independent judicial panel—but they can in general meeting determine what membership means and amounts to…. And if you are not prepared to sign up to the rules then there is the door!
Now I wonder—just who will attend that meeting for Rangers?
Further, the appeal panel has been told that in law it MUST follow certain specific sanctions. Given that the only result that would suit Rangers would be no further sanctions at all other than the fine, it would appear that Rangers ( through D&P ) have done nothing other than ensure that there will be further- probably stiffer- sanctions than they faced before.
The precise opposite of the Miller plan!
In short, wherever Rangers- D&P- Preferred bidder No 2,3 or 4 thought they were a few weeks ago, today they are in an entirely different place.
However that is nothing– absolutely nothing in comparison to others.
I have banged on before about Roddy Forsyth stating that Rangers would nip in and out of Administration only to resume normal service.
David Murray scoffed at the tax case, citing reliance on professional opinion to exonerate Rangers and MIH, with a view to persuading all who would listen that Rangers are in the clear no matter what HMRC say, and that there was– and never would be– any real danger to the club!
No one believes that– absolutely no one. Nobody expects the FTT to come out and say that Rangers got everything correct and that Hector is talking nonsense and that no tax is due.
Further still, the explanation given to the MSM by Billy Dodds for his EBT payment is, to be quite frank, the strangest explanation for being paid a sum of money from an EBT imaginable especially given the mechanism for working such a scheme.
” Hello, Mr Trustee, can I get a loan of my own money please on which the tax has already been paid?”
” And what makes you think we have any money of yours Billy Boy?”
” Mr Murray personally told me that you had it when I was going to Dundee Utd. I am due it contractually and he said that Rangers have paid all the tax on it for me so I get it Net of tax so can I have it please?”
” Absolutely, just sign this loan application and tell us where you want it sent.”
Such a tale is the stuff of nonesense. Somewhere there is now open and admitted fabrication by someone and either that someone never believed that any of this would ever come out in the open. But there it is.
The whole situation is barely recognisable from where we were a few weeks ago. Rangers are in a far more dangerous place, with little money and at every single turn they face a situation where some body or institution seeks to investigate further or dole out punishments and sanctions with no guarantee whatsoever that we are at the end of the penalty cycle.
There are no accounts, they have missed deadlines, they have discounted and rewritten the value of player contracts and have generally pissed off just about everyone in football.
Rangers Football Club are in an awful place.
Duff & Phelps on the other hand have an outstanding charge of at least £5.5 M in connection with the “Professional Services” which they have rendered to a company which they initially expected to exit Administration by the end of March 2012– if you recall their first press conference.
Craig Whyte sits with an as yet unchallenged first charge over Ibrox and Murray Park,—– and in that sense he has woken up exactly where he thought he would be each and every morning for the past year.
When and by how much Rangers PLC and Rangers FC are punished by the SFA, the SPL, HMRC, Companies House, The stock exchange and anyone else is somewhat inevitable and irrelevant. Whether Rangers cease to play football, play in the third division, or play in any division with under 18′s is also irrelevant.
There is no prospect of the creditors ultimately being paid even before the Big Tax case
( which of course is not a problem according to Murray ) and there is every prospect of the judgement in that case leading to massive further investigation and enquiry.
No– the only thing that is relavant this morning, and the only view from whatever bedroom window you look out of is……. IBROX.
No matter what happens when, how or where, Craig Whyte and Duff and Phelps will rely on the belief that someone at sometime will want Ibrox and will be willing to pay for it even if it can only be used to play football at some potentially distant point in the future.
That is now all we are talking about. Nothing else.
What do the Grant Thornton audited accounts value the the stadium at again?
Aye — Moonbeams, another planet and fantasyland— that is where they have always been right enough—- but that might take some explaining further down the road.
COP land road?
ASonOfDan on 1 June, 2012 at 00:50 said:
Just in from a night out to read this.
I hate this country, I hate the Peepil, I hate those that try to accommodate a sectarian, threatening club.
News for you. We are everywhere in this society and guess what.
We are more clever, more articulate and more humane than you will ever be.
Burn in hell rangers.
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Once again you feel the need to profess your ‘hate’ for Scotland, and although this time your use of ‘Peepil’ would seem to target huns only, a previous post of yours went much further and insulted ALL Scots, including the majority on this forum:
ASonOfDan on 31 May, 2012 at 11:11 said:
The Scots were a shower of forelock tugging, illiterate, Brit loving paupers who bizarrely felt superior to everyone in the world.
Now thery just hate Irish/Catholics because we are a constant reminder of how to better yourself and how they never fought English tyranny.
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When challenged, you merely asked if you had gone far enough.
May I answer you by saying yes?
Have we signed anybody yet?
THOMTHELENNYTHIM 0825
It not being released to the defence-DELIBERATELY SO-is shocking.
That fact drives a coach-and-horses through,not only the verdict,not even only the case itself,but the whole notion of justice.
It’s sickening,tbh,that OUR establishment went through the charade of this show-trial,supposedly on OUR behalf,when they knew damned fine well that they
1-Had the wrong guy
2-Were therefore not going to be in a position to get the right one.
Now,we need to dig into the reasons why.
Who was being protected,why were they being protected?
And by whom…….
They will keep their stupid heads in the sand this weekend as they march all over Glasgow and celebrate a monarch who they are very much in debt to.
Anyway have a happy holiday weekend Bhoys and Ghirls (apologies to the workers) and let’s see what the next scene of ‘Carry On R’gers’ brings.
‘Irish commentator Michael O’Hehir was better known as a Gaelic football commentator but often covered racing and was brought in to cover the race at the far end of the course, going to Becher’s Brook and coming away from Valentine’s. His commentary of the carnage at the 23rd fence ranks among the most famous in the history of BBC televised sport and is often shown when BBC Sport puts together nostalgic montages of great sporting moments. O’Hehir received particular respect from his peers for the speed and unflustered coolness with which he identified Foinavon as the horse emerging from the mêlée. O’Hehir later said in an interview that it was precisely the unfamiliarity of Foinavon’s colours that made him so instantly recognisable during the race.
O’Hehir visited the weighing room before the race, as is the custom of many National commentators, to familiarise himself more clearly with the colours of the silks but found himself completely stumped when looking at the black with red and yellow braces being worn by John Buckingham. Eventually O’Hehir had to ask Buckingham who his mount was. A confused O’Hehir said that his racecard showed two-tone green quarters, as worn by the rider in the Cheltenham Gold Cup a few weeks earlier, but Buckingham explained that the owner felt green to be unlucky and so had registered new colours for the National’ -lifted from Wiki /EWLM/EWTB.
The Scots may have been a shower of ‘Forelock tuggin’ Brit loving paupers’ but they weren’t illiterate; thanks to the great emphasis placed by the Kirk on education they could all read and write and count, which is why they went on to have a global influence completely disproportionate to their numbers.
The ole 2
Good luck to Darren O’Dea who has now officially left us.
The ole 2nd Law of the Bhlog has been runnin’ riot ove rthe past couple of days.
If it is true that D&P haven’t paid tax / NIC since 14 Feb, then they really are finished …….
Can someone point out the difference between these people?
1. D Murray – buys RFCia with MIH money.
2. C Whyte – buys RFCia with
Well said Brogan read your piece this morning gave me an immense feeling of well being…
Fraser Wishart, the spfa rep who was present at the redundancy-lite contract negotiations, stated that if CW still owned the club when the transfer window opened, the players could leave for nothing.
It’s 1 June 2012,…..CW still has his 85%….BYE! BYE!!!!!
Was it just me, or were there other people unable to listen to Neil Doncaster for more than a couple of minutes last night ?
He used the “repetition to re-inforce” technique with the word Integrity – he has no idea what it means ! Infuriating that he pretends that he does… I’m thoroughly scunnered with that guy… unwatchable
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 1 June, 2012 at 08:42 said:
Good Morning.
and a very very good morning to you too sir.
sooooperb need to read your post again later just to savour where I am…… in preparation for where I am going to be at the end of this month.
HH
Stupid computer (operator):
What I meant to say was basically:
What’s the difference between Murray, Whyte and Green?
They all spend other peoples money to buy RFCia.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 1 June, 2012 at 08:42 said:
Excellent post – that’s the old grey matter warmed up for a day with the kids.
S
SaintLubo on 1 June, 2012 at 09:01:
Surely that should be, D Murray bought Rangers with bank loan from RBS.
I know all the English are raving about M’Villa, the Rennes midfielder, but all I remember about him is big Victor bossing him all game and in the end he was sent off for frustration!
Morning Bhoys and Ghirls ,
Just like to wish everyone a Happy Timmy 1st of June – always love this day – explanation at the end.
Reporting from sunny Laandaaan – just about to get out , back to , hopefully even sunnier G69 for the weekend .
Anyway , on behalf of The Kano Foundation , I’d just like to say thank you to CRC and BundoranBhoy for their efforts in raising £209.57 for us in respect of
sales of the remaining first edition “Pablo” CQN badges .
Thank you very much . As you know , every charity group relies on the goodwill of donors and in these economic times , it’s humbling and rewarding to get the support we do . Thank you very much.
WRT , The Kano Foundation , some more good news. We have upped our allocation for the coming season to 62 seats (52 kids + 10 adults) allowing us to take almost 1000 kids every season to Celtic Park – thank you all for making it possible.
So , on behalf of Kingoh , Joe , Pat , myself and all the volunteers , Hail Hail and here’s to 2012-13.
Oh , finally . The reason I love 1st June ?
It’s my birthday. Same day every year – absolutely magic . I’m booked on the 3:30 from Euston so gonna sit back and enjoy it knowing I’ll be back home with the family by this evening .
My birthday wish ? That there’s only 1 team in Glasgow .
sannabhoy on 1 June, 2012 at 09:11 said:
Happy Birthday Mate, enjoy your trip up the road and enjoy even more the night with your loved ones.
Hx2