Signing players on and off strategy

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Bobby Collins left Celtic in 1958 after nine years’ service.  He’d won the Cup, the Double, the Coronation Cup, and, of course, the 1957 League Cup Final – Hampden in the Sun, Celtic 7, Rangers 1.

He went on to have a great career at Everton and to make a transformational contribution to Leeds United, but he will forever be a team mate of Sean Fallon, Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock, Neil Mochan and Charles Patrick Tully.  Our thoughts go to his family and friends today.

Over the last year or so we’ve asked the question, how many appearances a player needs to make in a well-scouted league to allow an agile club to discover him, before the hoards arrive and price-away any value in him?

Victor Wanyama made 50 appearances in Belgium before we nabbed him but he was knocking back substantially improved contracts from Celtic after only 30 games (which is a different point); England had already taken notice.  Virgil van Dijk made 62 appearances for Groningen, would we have been able to sign him on the kind of money we did if he’d stayed for another 30-or-so games?  It’s unlikely.

Amido Balde made 27 top flight appearances before arriving here, while Teemu Pukki played 37 times for Schalke – enough to score 8 times but there would have been little game time for Celtic scouts to watch him.

In the summer we concluded that there was a 50-80 game value opportunity.  Below this and you’ll struggle to find a player who has developed sufficiently for our agile scouts to be on the case and to do their work properly.  Above this and any player worth a punt will be packing stands with scouts from all over Europe.

If we’re signing someone without the necessary miles on the clock, he’s a punt and should be considered off strategy.  If we’re singing someone who has been watched by dozens of scouts, chances are, at best, he will be no more than a decent return on our money, there will be no hidden value.

Stefan Johansen has made 67 top flight appearances for Norwegian champions, Stromsgodset.  Enough for him to develop into a player who can attract the most agile to Norway, not enough for him to attract those who seem to use Fifa 14 as their primary recruitment database, so he’s on strategy, as far as our 50-80 game value opportunity theory goes.
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  1. tonydonnelly67

     

     

    10:26 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    I’d assume that a wage cap would be as a percentage of turnover or something similar.

  2. I would hope Peter Lawell will be having a quiet word with Regan to remind him of the rules. And it may also be time for another show of fan power.

  3. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Supporting Justice and Freedom for the Dam 5 on

    ernie lynch, I laughed at this comment by trueblue at the bottom of the link you posted.

     

     

    “sso here we go again i think thers a little bigoted timmy in the tax office doing his best to find something on us”

     

     

     

    I’m sure I’ve seen this same comment on hun media a thousand times:-)

  4. weet weet weet(GBWO) on

    parkheadcumsalford who is supporting the amsterdam 5

     

     

     

    Prayer said mate

     

     

    HH

  5. ACGR……….

     

     

    aye the dram is a mighty opponent………:) ….I had a braw time though….we,ll sink a few putts and drams sometime ….

  6. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Supporting Justice and Freedom for the Dam 5 on

    Is it official that sevco shares are once again more expensive than andrex?

  7. corkcelt- SUPPORTING THE DAM 5 on

    niallo83 Wouldn’t be worried that he is going to a Championship Club, better he go there and make the team rather than warm the bench with a bigger Club. He is still only 19 so If he did get a run of games he could get back in the mix fairly quickly.

  8. Poster on TSFM (moderated more than Pravda) solves the mystery of who sold lots of Sevco shares yesterday….Richard Hughes…..hmmmm…..very,very interesting.

     

     

    However,an even more interesting question would be who bought them.

     

     

    What’s that coming over the hill….Is it the Taxman….Is it the Taxman?

     

     

    SevcoarereallyfookedthistimeCSC

  9. I really hope we don’t send Rogic back to the A League on loan…..he’s never going to improve there!!

     

     

    Any top division in Europe (e.g. Belgium, France, Switzerland, Austria) or the English Championship would be better.

  10. “Graham is trying to put Rangers in a stronger place and it would be good for Scottish football if he could,

     

    “We’ve spoken about the challenges he faces and Graham has a lot of work ahead of him.”

     

    “The rules of the game have to be carried out in a fair and consistent manner. You can’t have one rule for one club and another one for another.”

     

     

     

    This is what Regan is quoted as saying, the rest is JI spin.

  11. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    So its no Richard Hughes the jockey then?

     

     

    he has riden a few duffer in his time though….

  12. corkcelt- supporting the dam 5

     

     

    10:35 on 15 January, 2014

     

    niallo83 Wouldn’t be worried that he is going to a Championship Club, better he go there and make the team rather than warm the bench with a bigger Club. He is still only 19 so If he did get a run of games he could get back in the mix fairly quickly.

     

     

    Ya hopefully your right!! Great to see the younger players going out on loan anyway.

  13. I believe Richard Hughes’ sell leaves the cheeky chappy as the last 1p share investor. If I recally correctly though there were others that bought at various levels between that and the 70p launch price. Their holdings might be below the 3% reporting thresh-hold though so we’ll never find out if and when they sold or sell.

  14. Blantyretim….

     

     

    Think every guy on here might have did that at some point in their lives.

     

     

    HopeAngelaHaggertyisn’treadingthissexistblogCSC

  15. I really,really hope Laxey have bought these shares yesterday.

     

     

    I really,really hope so.

     

     

    The end game will be closer than anyone could imagine.

  16. ryecatcher

     

     

    10:51 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    ‘I really,really hope Laxey have bought these shares yesterday.’

     

     

     

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    I can’t imagine it would be anyone else.

  17. m6bhoy

     

     

    10:04 on 15 January, 2014,

     

     

    My auld granda jimmy or (Ginger)worked on the door of the the long gone labour club in the eighties.

  18. Honestly see when you sit down an think about it, they really took that mob to the cleaners, thing is too, they where told by everyone cept. TSMSM, They have to be the stupidest people on this planet, I can see maybe a couple of hundred being conned, but tens of thousands? Lurking Huns GIRUY,

  19. Sevcomedian with his nose to the grindstone and plans to go global:

     

     

    “Hi Guys …………can anyone help me…………I posted last week that I wanted to leave flyers all over the city of Glasgow …I want to do this for all those bears out there who are ignorant to the alleged corruption between the gcc and sellick….how many people are there? well who knows but so far I have informed 5…my sister, my brother in law…and he is one devout Ger with a season ticket….obviously he is now doing his bit to spread the news… and 3 work mates….they just did not have any info re this allegation. How many people have you informed who were ignorant to this alleged corruption? How many council tax payers are there in Glasgow who are ignorant to how their taxes have allegedly benefited sellick? Anyway…here is the problem…I need someone to post the page from taxhavens in a flyer size…is that possible? can it be done? If so and i have a friend leaving for Lanzarote in 2 weeks time and he wants to leave them all over the airport”

  20. Ernie,

     

     

    These guys are ruthless,hard headed businessmen with not one iota of interest in running a loss making football club / company.

     

     

    Can’t wait to see their next move.

     

     

    LaxeypartnersCSC

  21. All this Stewart Regan nonsense got me reading Revelations… As you do!

     

     

    I quote,

     

     

    “And I saw Heaven opened, and behold a WHITE HORSE: and He that sat upon him was called ‘Faithful and True,’ and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called THE WORD OF GOD. And the armies which were in Heaven followed Him upon White Horses clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of His mouth goeth a SHARP SWORD, that with it He should smite the nations; and He shall rule them with a ‘ROD OF IRON’: and He treadeth the WINEPRESS OF THE FIERCENESS AND WRATH OF ALMIGHTY GOD. And He hath on His vesture and on His Thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the SUPPER OF THE GREAT GOD; that ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the ‘Beast,’ and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him that sat on the ‘Horse,’ and against His Army.”

     

     

    End quote. That actually sounds like a pretty accurate appraisal of events over at I pox.

     

     

    Meanwhile…. In a parallel tax-paying universe, we keep the faith.

     

     

    HH jamesgang

     

     

    HellMendYeezCSC

  22. I’m Neil Lennon (tamrabam)

     

    10:57 on

     

    15 January, 2014

     

     

    They’re top grade asset strippers. They currently own an awful lot of RIFC shares.

  23. I’m sure I read somewhere last night…

     

    Laxey statement….

     

    They did NOT buy shares…

     

    Anyone…?

  24. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    parkheadcumsalford who is supporting the amsterdam 5

     

     

    09:20 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    Did Richard Hughes buy AND sell shares yesterday, as you have stated above….and who is he..?

  25. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    jamesgang

     

     

    11:02 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    Hahahahahaha

  26. As someone said earlier something is afoot, yesterday it was Keith Jackoff with the begging bowel out for hearts (one wonders why) and today Regan out with the Sevco pash, it’s all gone wrong and they know it, the Jack Irvine publicity train is up at full steam, step wayyyyy back from the platform, train crash ahead, it’s a certainty.

  27. Tonydonnelly67

     

     

    I’m right behind you Tony!

     

    Remember the Odessa File? I’ll no push you mate!!!

     

     

    BehindYouCSC

     

     

    HH jamesgang