Signing players on and off strategy

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Bobby Collins left Celtic in 1958 after nine years’ service.  He’d won the Cup, the Double, the Coronation Cup, and, of course, the 1957 League Cup Final – Hampden in the Sun, Celtic 7, Rangers 1.

He went on to have a great career at Everton and to make a transformational contribution to Leeds United, but he will forever be a team mate of Sean Fallon, Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock, Neil Mochan and Charles Patrick Tully.  Our thoughts go to his family and friends today.

Over the last year or so we’ve asked the question, how many appearances a player needs to make in a well-scouted league to allow an agile club to discover him, before the hoards arrive and price-away any value in him?

Victor Wanyama made 50 appearances in Belgium before we nabbed him but he was knocking back substantially improved contracts from Celtic after only 30 games (which is a different point); England had already taken notice.  Virgil van Dijk made 62 appearances for Groningen, would we have been able to sign him on the kind of money we did if he’d stayed for another 30-or-so games?  It’s unlikely.

Amido Balde made 27 top flight appearances before arriving here, while Teemu Pukki played 37 times for Schalke – enough to score 8 times but there would have been little game time for Celtic scouts to watch him.

In the summer we concluded that there was a 50-80 game value opportunity.  Below this and you’ll struggle to find a player who has developed sufficiently for our agile scouts to be on the case and to do their work properly.  Above this and any player worth a punt will be packing stands with scouts from all over Europe.

If we’re signing someone without the necessary miles on the clock, he’s a punt and should be considered off strategy.  If we’re singing someone who has been watched by dozens of scouts, chances are, at best, he will be no more than a decent return on our money, there will be no hidden value.

Stefan Johansen has made 67 top flight appearances for Norwegian champions, Stromsgodset.  Enough for him to develop into a player who can attract the most agile to Norway, not enough for him to attract those who seem to use Fifa 14 as their primary recruitment database, so he’s on strategy, as far as our 50-80 game value opportunity theory goes.
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  1. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    11:12 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    Sounds a very fair assessment of the situation to me……now, where are my sedatives, and where is ‘scurfulious hillbillys’ Brattback …….. Bwahahahahahahahahaha…!!!!!!!!

  2. TD. Brill film.

     

     

    Reckon there’s on Orange Odessa?

     

    Course you do!

     

     

    Same beer hall singalongs too…

     

     

    Aff out.

     

     

    KTF jamesgang

  3. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    11:16 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    Ernie Lynch….10.20

     

     

    Oh, my goodness……silly billys…….TICK TOCK…..!!!!!!!!!

  4. Welcome Stefan!

     

     

    You don’t know it yet but….

     

     

    You are a Bhoy and you have been blessed.

     

     

    Happy and jealous at the same time CSC

  5. embramike supporting wee Oscar and Res 12 on

    STV Sport ‏@STVSport 3m

     

     

    Celtic complete signing of Norwegian international midfielder Stefan Johansen (@stefanjohansen)

  6. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    @celticfc: He will be officially unveiled at a Celtic Park press conference this afternoon (2pm). Welcome to Paradise, Stefan! (PC)

     

     

    All good news today….TWITTER & TITTER…..!!!!!!

  7. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    embramike supporting wee oscar and res 12

     

     

    11:23 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    Always goat tae be first, eh……..hahahaha

  8. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    jamesgang

     

     

    11:19 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    ….and an orange Titanic

  9. sipsini @ 10:56 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    My aul’ ma and da and their many freends were regulars in the Cathcart Labour Club from the day it opened (late sixties???) till just before the last pint was served(mid to late 2000s). At one point it was the only pub/club scheme in the scheme till the Legion club opened and then the Flying Tumbler pub in the “new shoaps” (aka Castlemilk Shopping Centre). I worked behind bar for a short time in the mid-seventies to supplement my student grant (remember them). I remember Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders playing there on a Saturday night.

     

     

    The club was the stuff of legends and did some good stuff for weans from ra’ Mulk around Christmas time and summer holidays. It also had it’s fair share of scoundrels some of whom were committee members. I was sad when I heard it had closed.

  10. Sydney Tim

     

     

    “But where is our goalscorer?”

     

     

    The last time I looked it was Pukki, Own Goal and Balde. And they were all cracking goals.

  11. Celtic sign their modern midfielder if we translate this into techno jargon then we could say Celtic have signed a smart player with a long battery life

     

     

    Welcome to CFC Stefan on your smart move

     

     

     

    Norwegian football expert Jan Aage Fjortoft told STV the midfielder is one of his nation’s brightest prospects.

     

     

    He said: “In Germany they talk about the number six, the number 10 and the number eight. He is a number eight. He is a little in-between.

     

     

    “He is, to use the cliché, a modern midfielder.”

  12. Sydney Tim for god,s sake change the record/cd/dvd/tune/song/moan/post. I think we all get it,can you come up with something new/original. I,m sure there must be something else happening at the club you can comment on, be it good ,bad or indifferent.Yours in hope Hail Hail Hebcelt

  13. Does anyone have confirmation of Stefan’s height (approx; metric) or any info on what (if any) part Anto Stokes played in his journey to Celtic??

  14. M6bhoy

     

     

    Easy there I was on that committee then, in the 70s that is, I was also the manager of the football team, and a very good team they where too,I left Castlemilk in March 1980 to go to Canada, I came back here in 2003, and was then again a member, it closed down a few years after that, but as you say it was a great club, with lots of characters, I prob, knew/ know yer old man ;)

  15. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Supporting Justice and Freedom for the Dam 5 on

    Hail Hail and welcome to Celtic Stefan.

     

     

    Now, If there’s any chance of having a word with sister Scarlet around signing for me, I’ve some dishes and other chores needing done.

  16. bognorbhoy oscar in my thoughts/ support the dam 5 on

    Anto was out fishing in norway trying to break some fishing record held

     

     

    by some woman ,young stefan fell into the fjord …. the rest is history

  17. Monaghan 1900 @ 10.57

     

     

    We’re doomed noo Ah tell ye!

     

     

    With big thinking guys like that against us, what chance have we got?

     

     

    We’re doomed. Doomed Ah tell ye!

     

    Ha ha ha ha ha.

     

     

    HH

  18. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    PARKHEADCUMSALFORD

     

    Thoughts and prayers with you & yours at this time.

     

     

    Y.N.W.A

  19. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    Welcome to The famous glasgow celtic Stefan

     

    May your days with us be blessed and trophy laden.

  20. Marrakesh Express on

    M6bhoy

     

     

    I drank in the Labour Club for years, as did td67. I could write a book about the place, the characters the patter, something else.

     

    It opened summer 1970 and closed around 2004, eventually burned down three years ago. At its peak, mid 70’s to mid 80’s, people were queuing up to get in an hour before opening time at the weekends. A goldmine.

  21. teuchter ár lá

     

    02:41 on 15 January, 2014

     

     

    Stephebhoy1

     

    You in Canada?

     

     

    Sure am….live just outside toronto in brampton. You over here too?

  22. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    Will Sevco create a new world record with the earliest begging letters for Season ticket renewals.

     

    We wait in anticipation :))

     

    stupid stupid zombies

  23. Now we have a midfielder who can see a pass, all we need now is someone to tell Stoksie that the off side rule apples to him same as the rest, and we be fine an dandy ;)

  24. Jonny the Tim

     

    11:47 on

     

    15 January, 2014

     

     

    Our only chance is to get a taskforce together and clear all the flyers from the airport. Off to check all the Lanzarote flights in two weeks time.