Keep one eye on the profile of players we target and sign this summer. The model which has delivered so many trophies in recent seasons has been to sign them before they reach their peak, develop and either extend their contracts, or sell. It is sustainable and avoids the cliff edge of players spending their peak years with us, then dropping in value as the years progress.
Contrast this to what has happened across the city, where they sign players in their mid-20s in the hope of an immediate fix to a problem that conventionally takes strategic development to resolve.
In signing Connor Barron, Newco appear to have figured this out. You just hope that while they are copying our strategy, we are not copying theirs….
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Good afternoon all from the Ramsden Arms, Blackpool. Small doll gone shopping.
Braw.
Celtic
Wednesday eve all.
Paul67
We need a balanced approach to recruitment – sometimes you need an old head a la Mooy
But has Brendan gone shopping? 🤔
No, but their (previous) strategy requires money. They dont have it.
If funds are available, can we not have a mix of both ??
Strategy should not = straight jacket
There are more performance indicators than simply “profit”
ALL age groups should be under consideration with parameters around transfer fees and wages associated
VALUE can be found at all points on the spectrum – Moravcik, Mooy, and even Larrson (26) and more recently Hart.
The key is recruitment personnel quality and decision making skills, not strict adherence to a restrictive signing “strategy”.
Couldn’t give a monkeys what the other mobs recruitment strategy is, it should be irrelevant to us.
https://x.com/20MinuteTims/status/1808085196316549134?t=r5qwDHq0LL9tUsdP_50j8Q&s=19
Spurs new signing, 50 seconds in….
Why the constant comparisons with “newco”?
They’ve signed six young players from all over the world, they’ve let domestic duds Lundstrum, Barasic, Jack and Roofe go, they look to be moving on serial losers captain disappointed and happy flappy Goldson. Cantwell looks like he’s on his way out. British mediocrity
Clement and his bosses look like they get it.
Hopefully the appointment of Mark Cooper shows that we still do as well – from what’s out there on the internet his strengths seem to be spotting young talent, particularly from the huge South American market.
To achieve our goals in Europe the entire football department need to considerably up their game. Most importantly we need to find players with the potential to be better than the teams we’re aiming to overtake. Not fill the team with players not wanted by those teams or who we already know aren’t up to the required standard.
We must be realistic about where the improvement needs to come and how we achieve it. The harsh reality is that our manager had the worst European pedigree of the four in our group last season. We must demand an improvement from everyone.
Or accept more domestic dominance and European failure.
It goes without saying that a mix is vital, but one that favours young, hungry dynamic and ambitious players.
It’s probably fine going down the more tried and trusted route as a one-off, as a strategic move, as long as it’s quality over quantity.
What we should have done and have so far massively failed in doing, is traded up.
Signing young players with lots of potential but perhaps limitations in physical development has worked, but once we sell them on we should be trying to trade up with the same model but with players with higher ceilings. Move in from £1-3m projects who you hope to sell for £5-15m with the odd outlier like O’Riley to young guys at £7-12m where the hope if you become £25-40m players.
There’s also the top players at big clubs who aren’t going to get football where they are, but the challenge is the wages and finding the ones with the right hunger and passion.
Our recruitment policy and Sevco’s both have holes in them albeit ours has fewer holes . A wacky idea might be to sign just a few players with limited or no sell on value which might be offset by picking up a few more CL pounds for a couple more draws or wins ? The added benefit being the chance of a happier European experience for the fans .
Besides , some of the investment signings who haven’t worked out for us have cost us dearly in trying to offload them , so no strategy is ever going to be win-win .
We should be looking at a blended approach wrt our transfer strategy.
One size doesn’t fit all, methinks
!!bada bing!!
Now there’s a young bhoy with a good family history
And his feet well and truly on the ground.
Also shows the esteem Ange is held, enhanced no doubt by his role as TV Euro pundit
Well done Archie, great move for a young player.
Hmmmmm…… the tone of the lead articles is starting to give me an eerie feeling of deja-vu.
However, I’m not overly concerned just yet. I’ll wait until until the term “bedwetters” gets used before panicking.
Keep the faith.
MALONE BHOY on 2ND JULY 2024 12:36 PM
“There’s also the top players at big clubs who aren’t going to get football where they are, but the challenge is the wages and finding the ones with the right hunger and passion.”
And who want to play in Scotland. Very few will choose spending their peak playing and earning years in the SPL.
Looks like Vitesse Arnhem are headed for liquidation. Will be interesting to see if an engine-room subsidiary emerges.😀
Another article about Rangers.
Old Firm Quick News.
Kyogo, Moyes, Hart, Johnston, Carter Vickers, Maeda and Hatate… All approaching mid 20s, at least, when they were signed. The trick is to sign good players, whatever age they are. A blend of ages, as others have said, sounds good.
Mooy, not that young guy Moyes (who wasn’t a very good player) 😁
Funny how differently football club owners see the world
Tony Bloom is recognised as running the most progressive club in the prem, Brighton a process driven business, they rarely get signings of players or managers badly wrong.
They’ve just appointed a 31 year old with no top flight experience in Germany. He described him as the “least risky” appointment they could make.
Serious businessmen know that in order to achieve great things you must take risks.
SFTB- How tall is their left back?
CELTIC MAC on 2ND JULY 2024 12:45 PM
This is what Archie Grey said when he signed for Spurs: On the former Celtic manager, he said: “I’m not going to lie to you, I’m a massive Celtic fan so I love him [Ange Postecoglou] and my whole family loves him and I haven’t really said this to be fair.
Our tried and trusted model has delivered phenomenal success in our two team league and sweet Fanny Adam’s in Europe.
Agree that there has to be a balance.
If we exclusively do what we did last summer we will not only fail but crash the careers of those we signed.
Sign players to fit our needs not in the Hail Mary that one of them might be good enough in the future to get a substantial ROI.
I would be delighted if some players spent their peak years with us.
So basically it doesn’t matter the age, it doesn’t matter if they cost 1m or 10m. If they are signed for a specific role based on our needs I will be happy.
P67 seems to have forgotten all the players aged 25+ we signed under Ange. Kyogo, GG, JJ, Starfelt, Hart, Mooy quickly spring to mind.
These lads all made very telling contributions and were pivotal to we did under Ange.
Like most things in life, a balanced approach is the way to go here.
And stop using the mob across the city as the benchmark.
If we are to compare then compare with similar teams in other European leagues.
Bada- he’s 1.76m so maybe 2 inches taller than Greg, but he’s from Luxembourg- Marco Pinto
Hopefully Sevco follow the disastrous approach we adopted during our mercifully shortLawwell nepotism era.
SFTB-😀👍
Of the team that started the cup final, only one, the best player in the team, was under 25.
We need to be better at signing younger players. Not sign more older ones.
One might equally consider our recruitment strategy in the light of our performance in Europe over recent seasons.
In that light, if competing in Europe is our purpose, the strategy is not fit.
TURKEYBHOY on 2ND JULY 2024 11:35 AM
That prize money is a joke.
When I log on to Goole,I always get a double strip of trending news,not sure if everyone the same.Every day,4 or 5 scum stories on it,usually from,Ibrox News,or Ibrox noise.
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TB,
your computer has a nasty virus,
And there it is – another article about a recruitment policy based on how we can make a profit on the signing not how good a player they are and how they will contribute to the team……..
Thats my issue with the policy – its about the deal and not the player
Following our present recruitment has no doubt allowed us build financial stability/profit and dominate a very weak SPFL, but, the downside has been embarrassing European campaigns.
It seems to me that a mixture of good young potentials and proven professionals are the answer.
I trust Brendan.
DESSYBHOY on 2ND JULY 2024 10:12 AM
So we can expect the year end accounts to be out before 12
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Celtiic plc have 90 days after year end close to publish the annuak results.
Year end is 30 June. We will publish results around 18 September, around the same time as the last 20+ years.
I worked alongside our corporate accountancy department.
I would often accuse them and the auditors of being in a big jolly environment, loooking after each other.
The truth is, they audit all the transactions in and out, the shareholdings, the movements of goods and services, payroll, etc etc etc.
Celtic is only a £150m operation, big deal, but it does have 60,000 f2f customers and millions of transactions.
watching an accountant being unable to explain how monies moved from a to b was quite funny.
As to our accountants, never ever wondered about anything, it is all there.
i do have a lot of cynasism over why Murrays companies got away with everything for so long.
National pride runs deep in the Gray family. A painter in Yorkshire found that out when he went to decorate the house owned by the best of the dynasty, Eddie, rocking up in a van with an England flag on the bonnet. The Leeds United doyen waited until the coast was clear then covered the flag up with one of his Scotland caps.
The Gray family tree is very Celtic, in more ways than one, but the latest of the brood to break through at Leeds, 17-year-old Archie, was born in England, schooled in England and, as a footballer, did not mess about in declaring for England, irrespective of his father, grandfather and Eddie, his great uncle, all representing Scotland. Nor has Archie dragged his heels, jumping from England Under-15s to England Under-19s in the space of two years.