“The appeal is dismissed.” With those words at the Supreme Court in London at 9:52 this morning, Rangers tax cheating was established as fact. The charlatans who manipulated Scottish football fans were shown to be the disgrace they are.
Rangers made unlawful payments, totalling many millions of pounds, to footballers, who, by the club’s own admission in court, they would have been unable to recruit if they had to pay tax and National Insurance contributions for.
They lied to HMRC.
They also hid documents from HMRC, which only came to light during a City of London Police raid on Ibrox.
They hid documents from the SPL and SFA, failing to honestly register dozens of players.
They cheated the tax man.
They cheated the welfare state, the NHS, the police, councils, schools. They cheated the Army and other services.
The SPL’s (now called Scottish Professional Football League) Commission into these matters must now be set aside. It was conducted on the assumption that Rangers acted legally. Lord Nimmo Smith was clear that his conclusions were predicated on this point. A fresh commission is required, we cannot just allow the biggest cheats in British sporting history wander off into the distance.
The SFA has failed to call Sir David Murray to account, or the other directors of Rangers, who had explicit responsibility to ensure the club acted within the laws of the land and within the rules of football, both of which it failed to do.
Murray should be sine died. God knows, I cherish every moment Dave King controls things at Ibrox, but he was a director of Rangers with legal responsibility for its actions. They should all be censured.
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To be fair about helicopter Sunday. I have no evidence that the pilot was on an EBT.
Dessybhoy
The LNS decision now stands as an indictment.
Many argue there is no need to challenge it at all in the event of the Supreme Court judgement going against Rangers PLC because it declared the scheme illegal and LNS makes it plain that in the event of the scheme being illegal his whole logic is reversed.
Also now that this appeal is over, The SFA and SPFL have to deal with the Big Tax Cases that Rangers PLC did not even appeal plus those that are the subject of this judgement AND the wee tax case cases.
Anyone heard from PLC yet? Naw, me neither!
I request a response from Celtic. Just a request, not a demand.
MWD
SPFL statement
Wednesday 5th July 2017
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An SPFL spokesman said: “The Board of the SPFL notes today’s judgement of the Supreme Court. We will now take time to examine the judgement in detail and to consider any implications for the SPFL.”
Read more at http://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-statement-74/#uCVqDGHlmOurJitX.99
Hearts supporters on Jambo’s kickback forum demanding title stripping and resignations of Reagan and Doncaster.
McLaughlin actually said the club went into liquidation. Ten seconds later says the club is now owned by a different company!
Absolute embarrassment of a “journalist”.
The strategy.
See above.
Get the cooperation of supporters of other clubs to act in concert .
Surely.
Another old one.
The silence of the lambs — and when the wheels come off the bogey!
And they sure as hell came off the bogey today!!
https://broganrogantrevinoandhogan.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/the-silence-of-the-lambs-and-when-the-wheels-come-off-the-bogey/
Hi Paul67,
Completely agree, we are now in a situation to look at the facts surrounding Rangers (mis)use of EBTs and events leading to the Clubs insolvency and liquidation.
The SPL & SFA were only too quick to put Craig Whyte in the Dock and throw the book at him.
We now know that SDM played an even bigger role in this. Also as you said, along with Campbell Ogilvie and others he was instrumental in the deliberate subterfuge used to cover up these dealings…
…Up to and including the failure to Register Rangers Players on EBTS properly. Contrary to SFA Articles of Association.
The other Directors, including those on the Board of Sevco Rangers should also be investigated.
Of course, as the SFA have allowed these men to hold these positions despite contravening The SFA’S Articles of Association and F&PP criteria being breached and their former President (who gave evidence to past hearings) is incriminated. It is therefore hugely important that any investigation is independent or that all the Scottish Football Establishment figures associated with the tawdry business step down to allow a fresh start.
The evidence is now all in the open and must be thoroughly investigated.
On an aside… more nonsense from the BBC…
“The court’s decision is not expected to have any material or financial impact on Rangers now as the club is owned by a different company.”
If they believe that Sevco Rangers is the same Club as Rangers as their reports always suggest, then who did the Footballers on EBTs represent? Did they play for the Club or Company.
Surely the players who were not properly registered played for the Club… From their perspective, the SAME Club… who collectively pocketed £47M In non-disclosed earnings. Companies dont register Players Clubs do, Sevco Rangers are making claim to ALL the Trophies won during this period, when the Club (not company) Fielded incorrectly registered Players…. Now why won’t that have a material impact?
Only one Answer… If it’s a different Club…
Hail Hail
I heard McGlaughlan on the BBC this morning, he said that players involved in the EBTs in those years would have to pay 29p in the £1:00 if it goes the Result, the HMRC way.
For info
SPFL board members are;
The 42 member clubs of the SPFL met today at the league’s Annual General Meeting and elected the six club representatives who will serve on the SPFL Board for the year ahead.
The SPFL Board includes three Ladbrokes Premiership representatives, two from the Ladbrokes Championship and one covering Ladbrokes League 1 and Ladbrokes League 2.
Elected to serve on the 2016/17 SPFL Board – alongside SPFL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster, SPFL Chairman Ralph Topping and independent non-executive director Karyn McCluskey – were:
Ladbrokes Premiership representatives: Peter Lawwell (Celtic), Ann Budge (Heart of Midlothian) and Ian Maxwell (Partick Thistle)
Ladbrokes Championship representatives: Leeann Dempster (Hibernian) and Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers)
Ladbrokes League 1 and League 2 representative: Ken Ferguson (Brechin City)
Ma poor sides!
Hiv they no suffered enough?
What a braw braw day…
Jobo hope you had a braw day…Tully57 hope you are having a braw day….
Smiley birthday thing
Braw
Luxembourg fourth best team….hahahahaha!
jambo kickback.
only a few comments dont have sweary words, here is one
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Posted Today, 11:07
It’s not just about titles. What about the relegated teams. The teams that missed out on Europe. The cup games all the way through the tournaments both domestically and in Europe. Pretty much the sfa/SPFL would have to expunge those seasons in their entirety. In reality all clubs who played Rangers in those years have a claim of some sort….no one will do it but I’d suggest as they are now dead the responsibility to compensate all those clubs falls with the governing bodies. It’s a shambles!
SPFL statement translated;
“……er, we will make a statement later when we’ve figured out how to wriggle out of this one”
MACJAY
With respect,there may well be a good reason for the “perpetual whinge”
Celtic should have their ammo ready for today’s outcome,time to dust off the dossiers and get fired in.
We weren’t paranoid enough,MACJAY. Remember we were ridiculed as being mentally ill when we mentioned being cheated?
Well,I dunno who you expect to take this further if not the board. That’s all we’re asking.
It’s time for them to get their fingers out and stand up,the way Celtic have stood up for years in the past.
No more back seat,that’s not how it works.
jamboes kickback
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Posted Today, 11:23
they threw Dunfermline out the Scottish cup for mistakenly filling in the team sheet, rangers deliberately with held the side letters regarding paying players, this was contrary to the rules NOT A MISTAKE. as they couldn’t afford the players without the ebt’s, this was gaining an unfair advantage.
the reason nothing was done before was because at the time of lord nimmo’s enquiry ebt’s weren’t found to be illegal and as such were deemed to be available to all clubs. after todays result that is not the case.
either way the rule breaking started by not declaring the ebt’s and not just their legality or not, it should never have needed todays result.
trophies stripped and blanked out.
Celtic in November 2015:
In response to considerable interest from supporters, shareholders and media representatives in recent days, Celtic today made the following statement:
We are aware of last week’s Court of Session ruling, which we note is subject to potential appeal.
Celtic’s position on this issue is consistent – that this remains a matter for the courts of law and also the Scottish football authorities whose rules are intended to uphold sporting integrity.
In 2013, we expressed surprise – shared by many observers and supporters of the game – over the findings of the SPL commission that no competitive or sporting advantage had resulted. That remains our view.
Hibs supporters on hibsnet forum demanding title stripping and resignations.
This is definitely not just a Celtic thing.
TULLY57…
Happy birthday and many hoopy returns.
BRTH
You know and I know they will do everything to avoid/evade facing the consequences of this judgement and deal with it appropriately, they cannot be allowed to do so.
so are we now on 17 in a row, or is it 16?
Understatement Warning:
alex thomsonVerified account @alextomo 34 seconds ago
SFA say they are considering their response to today’s Supreme Court decision in the Rangers Big Tax Case
Once again I fail to see why this is a CFC issue, imo, it’s every club in Scotlands issue, and every fan of these clubs too, but the usual suspects have a go at PL, and the CFC board, its in they’r DNA and can’t help themselves, and then you’ve got the C T making the bulets, me? I’m just loving last night, and today’s results, both of which have nothing to do with CFC , but it’s fun, and I’m sure CFC and the board will be having a wee laugh too. Only my opinion, (whispers) and it’s allowed, so no name calling please :))
Instead of putting asterisks next to the titles the huns stole there should be wee icons of tangerines.
Macjay
“Give us a break lads” is a demand
Please give us a break lads is a request but you may say that I’m being pedantic:_).
Anyway, who is the “us” you refer to. As far as I can tell you seem to be the only one taking the huff that Celtic supporters now want action and are prepared to request action is taken by the club.
Well, apart from that twat Donald and the Thompson flake pastry multi poster.
Anyway, don’t let it spoil yer day, and you kind of better get used to it because there will be much more of it as the call for action grows across the whole of Scottish football.
Back to work now:_(
Too much to read if this hasn’t been pointed out before regarding the ridiculous BBC assertion that the EBT recipients may benefit financially from the ruling:
1. If the recipients keep the ‘loan’ the employer pays employers NI and the recipient pays the employee’s NI and any outstanding income tax plus penalties for late payment. Enter BDO, surrogate employer?
2. The recipients repay the loans, to presumably BDO, and this is divvied up between Hector, the creditors and that greedy beast BDO.
There is no happy ending for the EBT recipients – I’m no tax inspector but I ran my own business and paid my tax and all relevant NI contributions.
HH from Albuferia,
Any tips on travel to Lisbon greatly appreciated got a wee pilgrimage to make
Ps
Strip the titles
Baba
what about oranges in a basket
This absolutely will affect Sevco. 3 of the chancers who sat on the board that ran the industrial cheating are sitting on the board of the current tribute act.
They need chased.
Then Regan needs chased.
Then titles removed.
Only in Scotland, and only in relation to Rangers, would you see people in authority saying that gains made via cheating should be allowed to stand.
Nowhere else anywhere would that even be countenanced. I mean you teach children from as soon as they can understand the rules of a game if you are caught cheating, you lose.
Maybe we now need to caveat that and say unless you are Rangers.
TULLY57
HOOPY BIRTHDAY !!!
A re-post from the previous thread.
Whilst one could argue that the FTT tribunal got the decision correct on the basis of the case argued before them (not saying that’s right, just saying you could argue it was) you are still left with the fact that the tribunal agreed to sit in private.
That, to me, suggests that something wasn’t quite right about the mindset of the tribunal members (or at least a majority of them).
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 5TH JULY 2017 10:33 AM
The FTT was interesting.
1. It sat in private. That it was allowed to so is a scandal. That no one seems bothered about it is worse still.
2. The dissenting judgement was from a woman, who I suspect, grew up free of the cultural baggage that most of us carry.
3. The judgement was remarkable for the level of detail about the evidence. l suspect this was done as a reaction to, and as a means of undermining, the fact that the tribunal sat in private.
Regarding point 1, this is an interesting case. Peter Andre wanted his case heard in private. His application was refused. The judge was Heidi Poon.
http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKFTT/TC/2017/TC05575.html
Fergus McCann said there was something not right at Ibrox as he did the sums and could not figure out how they could afford the players income their income. It was partly exposed when Amaruso and others were in court for various motoring offences and were claiming they were paid 2000 per week… nothing was done. When regan came in , when they were on point of collapse , I said it was to take part in a fix. So it proved. I said at time murray sold up he would come back one day to claim his property…he will he has done it with his other assets,, at knockdown prices.. SFA are crooks.. Celtic and other clubs are cowards. Nothing will happen. Only one person said it as it was. And he died
PS after the tower fire and safety fiasco will anyone at GCC do anything or will they wait for a disaster?
Tony @1306
I’m no expert on this, you’d be better asking one of the experts who said there’s no way the appeal would be dismissed…;)
But I’m sure it was announced a while back the employees would be paying something back regardless of today’s result.
HH
The SFA will try ‘a big boy done it and ran away ‘ defence,the cheats who rubber stamped it have left……er…..mostly for UEFA jobs……
Tony,
Take no notice of Brian McLaughlin at the moment.
The sums due to HMRC by RFC PLC increased this morning and they will claim as much as possible from the liquidator’s pot.
The liquidator then has a duty to creditors and others to examine the conduct of the directors and if necessary question whether or not the Directors are personally liable for failing in their duties. If they have so failed then the liquidator can chase them and ask them to make payment of compensation.
Those duties include:
To act within powers (regulation 16). This requires a director to comply with the company’s constitution and decisions made under the Constitution and to exercise the powers only for the reasons for which they were given.
To act in a way the director considers (in good faith) is most likely to promote the success of the company for the benefit of its members as a whole (or, if relevant, other purposes specified in the Constitution). (regulation 20-24). In performing this duty, a director must have regard to all relevant matters, but the following are specifically identified in legislation:
the likely consequences of any decision in the long term;
the interests of the company’s employees;
the need to foster the company’s business relationships with suppliers, customers and others; the impact of the company’s operations on the community and the environment;
the desirability of the company maintaining a reputation for high standard business conduct; and the need to act fairly as between members of the company.
To exercise independent judgment, that is, not to subordinate the director’s power to the will of others. This does not prevent directors from relying on advice, so long as they exercise their own judgement on whether or not to follow it.
To exercise reasonable care, skill and diligence (regulation 25). This requires a director to be diligent, careful and well informed about the company’s affairs. If a director has particular knowledge, skill or experience relevant to his function (for instance, is a qualified accountant and acting as a finance director), expectations regarding what is ‘reasonable’ will be judged accordingly (regulation 25).
To avoid conflicts (or possible conflicts) between the interests of the director and those of the company (regulation 30-36). The prohibition will not apply if the company consents (and consent meets the necessary formal requirements).
Not to accept benefits from third parties (ie a person other than the company) by reason of being a director or doing anything as director (regulation 31). The company may authorise acceptance (subject to its constitution), for instance to enable a director to benefit from reasonable corporate hospitality; and
To declare any interest in a proposed transaction or arrangement (regulation 32-36). The declaration must be made before the transaction is entered into and the prohibition applies to indirect interests as well as direct interests.
In addition, a director has a duty to consider or act in the interests of creditors (particularly in times of threatened insolvency) (regulation 26)
So there might be more money in the pot if they chase them.
Chris McLaughlin also fails to take into account the levels of penalty (up to 100% again) that can be levied on outstanding tax plus interest that then falls to be added.
Directors too can be asked to pay interest if money is demanded.
Just watch, however, to see who gets landed with the failure in directors duties here because you will recall that Minty swanned off and left incompetents in charge — at least according to Donald Findlay at a recent trial!!
Honestly, you have to see beyond the immediate problem to see where this lot come from and are going and with no offence to Chris, and many others, he is not at the races let alone the starting gate.
Will the full list now be published? A lot of suspects on who was on the take……….
Tony Donnelly, it is every club that was cheated but I am a Celtic fan, and shareholder, and I am concerned about Celtic’s non-action/collusion. If Ferrari were cheated out of F1 wins over the years because rivals used an illegal engine and then found out that not only did the authorities know but Bernie Ecclestone helped them develop it I think you agree they would demand action.