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How many people working as ‘journalists’ in Scottish football were secretly on the payroll of Oldco Rangers (or Rangers International, for that matter)?  Is this common practice in newspapers, did the Daily Record know about it? Wonder how they will play the news story…

Any suggestions as to who else might’ve been on the oldco/Sevco payroll?  Any ex-Celtic players?

Most of us have spent the last season trying to value Victor Wanyama.  If he goes, it’s important we achieve as high a price as possible, not for the money itself, but Victor’s value will be reflected in the value of the rest of the squad – and it’s important we move our player trading up the food chain.

SPL football doesn’t count towards a valuation but the Champions League does, and Victor’s five group games (less so the Juventus games) are the basis of whatever figures will be offered.

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Delighted Celtic are hosting a charity match in September for Stiliyan Petrov’s new charity foundation. The player has undertaken a remarkable fight over the last year or so and is an example to many.

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  1. So..it appears.. that …

     

     

    The Southhamptonians’..( tae use.. Nutsy’s Term)… Bid… fur the Services of Oor Victor.. has.. come a Cropper at..”Bechers”.. and …jist afore the Stretch… tae!

     

     

    Shame!

     

     

    Well..

     

     

    Ah pit it tae ye..

     

     

    Wiz the SouthHamptonians.. Losin’ Oot… a good thing?

     

     

    Fur .. Us.. The Celtic?

     

     

    Hmmmmmmm

     

     

    Don’t be in too much o’ a Hurry .. Guys..

     

    Let’s think aboot it.. Cogitate.. Kick it Aroon.. Run it up the Flag-Pole.. Contemplate oan awe……. the Ramifications..

     

    Afore..

     

     

    Ye Answer that Yin.

     

     

    Noo.. While You..Ma Dear Readers..are safely, Pre-occupied in completin’ that Reflective Task..

     

     

    Why No Let me ..Jist

     

     

    Answer that Question.. Fur Ye?

     

     

    Agreed..? Great!

     

     

    Ah say that the Fact that The Southhamptonians… and Victor..did NOT come tae a

     

    “meeting of the Minds”..as they say.

     

     

    It Could Turn oot ,tae be… a… Monumental, CATASTROPHE, ( in Financial Terms.) .. Fur the

     

     

    CELTIC!

     

     

    The Southhamptonians , didnae hiv the Proper Kinda… Juice.. that Victor.. wiz Lookin’ fur..

     

     

    WhidAh Mean by That?

     

     

    Well… The Southhamptonians, Hid the Wherewithal. tae Meet Celtic’s askin Price..

     

     

    but.. They ,WOEFULLY?.. Yep… WOEFULLY, came up short in hiving the type of

     

     

    World RENOWNED ….INFLUENTIAL REPUTATION in ..well .. The World Of Soccer…. of the kind , whit.. Victor..n , Mair Importantly.. Victor’s Handlers, wur looking fur.. as The New ELEVATED..Platform, oan which, thur Prodigy kin Strut his Stuff.

     

     

    Those Handlers’ of Victor.. are a Crafty Loat.

     

     

    So..hivin’ said Awe that..

     

     

    Ah wull noo.. Let ye in oan

     

     

    Why..in Using…THOSE very reasons ,which Ah hiv Gien,ye..As Tae Why ..

     

     

    The Southhamptoninians, loast oot ..in their Bid Fur the Services of oor Victor..

     

     

     

     

    Why, I Believe..that

     

     

    Any.. E.P.L. Clubs.. Who DO Enjoy having…

     

     

    Renowned , World Wide Influential Reputations..

     

     

     

    Wull..

     

     

    Simply, Hold off.. in Any Bidding, whatsoevah… for the Services of oor Victor..

     

     

    Until ..the Death!

     

     

    The Death? Whit Death?

     

     

    Why.. The Death of Victor’s Celtic Contract!

     

     

    In Ma Opinion.. If Ah wiz in Charge of wan of they World Renowned Soccer Giants..

     

     

    that is Exactly whit Ah wid dae!

     

     

    fur..

     

     

    It now appears that Victor and his People..

     

     

    Are Mair Interested in Victor , going tae a Club..

     

     

    Which Has Earned .. WORLD WIDE CELEBRITY, and retains a Solid Track Record… of Successes in the Soccer Field… besides, being.. Financially able tae Meet.. Victor’s.. ASTRONOMICAL WAGE DEMANDS..

     

     

    Which May be Good fur Victor.. but..as Ah declare..

     

     

    It May Be.. Not sae Guid ,at awe, at awe..

     

     

    fur the Celtic.

     

     

    fur..

     

     

    If these Big Guys..are as smart as Me.. And.. who’s tae Say.. they urnae?

     

     

    then

     

     

    They wull Bide thur Time..

     

     

    N … Pick up Victor.. fur.. NOWT.

     

     

    Maks Sense tae You?

     

     

    Mebbe , No.

     

     

    But

     

     

    It sure Maks Sense .. tae Me!

     

     

    Of course.. Ah may be jist Fantasizing, Shooting the Breeze..

     

     

    And who’s tae say.. Ah am No?

     

     

    No Me.. that’s, fur Sure..

     

     

    But.. Anyway…

     

     

    It is a Hellava Thought..

     

     

    Right?

     

     

    Of Course, it is .

     

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still…Laughin’

  2. cowiebhoy

     

    21:11 on 23 June, 2013

     

    pogmathonyahun aka laird of the smiles

     

    20:59 on 23 June, 2013

     

    Was in a wee Irish bar, last week, dennehy’s puerto mogan, sign above bar Pog Ma Thoin.

     

    Immediately thought of you, but, what’s the correct spelling ?

     

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    CB, you can spell it both ways. One is Irish Gaelic and the other is Scottish Gaelic. It’s a bit like the different spellings of the name Ruairidh, which I can vouch for.

  3. ElDiegoBhoy

     

     

    My condolences for your loss.

     

     

    My sister lost her partner of 12 years very suddenly a few weeks ago – getting by a day at a time.

  4. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    lilys grandpa

     

     

    00:08 on 24 June, 2013

     

    crushed nuts,00.00

     

    Agree, but until one among them breaks ranks, all the lwaks etc are just being ignored.There must be one among them?……………. well maybe not, Ive been wrong before.

     

    lilys grandpa

     

    &&&&&&&

     

    This situation, where there’s a massive effort to ignore the obvious, puts me in mind of a saying of Confucius: The man who wears a bulletproof vest can’t complain when he’s shot in the arse’

  5. Eldiegobhoy

     

     

    Condolences on your loss. No words can describe your devastation but at least you have the whole of the CQN family with you in spirit .

  6. If Victor is NEEDED by a club now,why would they wait two seasons to get him for nowt?

     

     

    Their current NEED would be unfulfilled…no? No that I want him to leave mind you.

  7. Fred C Dobbs

     

     

    It’s awe aboot the Money.. Honey!

     

     

    The Big Bhoys..

     

     

    Dinnae want tae Get Involved in a BIDDING WAR.. fur .. Victor.

     

     

     

    That could turn oot tae be a Very Costly Involvement..

     

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

     

    Gotta.. Scramble… Campbell.

     

     

    Seeya.

     

     

    Still.. Laughin’

  8. Fred C.Dobbs

     

     

    Jist almost oot the Door..

     

     

    Howevah.. Fur You…

     

     

    Look…

     

     

    Victor,is jist a RAW YOUNGSTER..in E.P.L. terms.. and tat the Calibre of Club..which Ah Am Atalkin’ Aboot.

     

     

    Why no let.. Victor.. Perk a wee bitty Longer?

     

     

    He wull only improve wi’ age and Awe the Euro Cup experience that he wull receive

     

     

    by Lingerin a Awhile ,wi Celtic?

     

     

    In any case..

     

     

    It wull no be as Long as Two Years ,fur Wan of the Biggies tae wait.

     

     

    After.. One More Year..

     

     

     

    Celtic, wull begin tae Get Antsy..

     

     

    and… Whose tae say that one of the Biggies, wull No tak Advantage of that?

     

     

    As Ah said in Ma Pen Ultimate Posting..

     

     

    This is Sumptin that Wan his tae … Think Aboot..and… Well.. No Jist

     

    Rush tae Judgment… tae quote.. F.Lee.

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still Laughin’

     

     

    Gotta Scram… Sam.

     

     

    Seeya.

  9. edb….I remember well your support when wee charliebhoy had his accident your support and your compassion, on the first night when he was operated on,many family and friends offered the support that family and friends do. This is what is expected of family and friends., young charliebhoy and I attended the recent lions night,a large part of me wanted to say to all this is charliebhoy and son the son who all you cqners prayed etc for…but catholic is not just a religion its a way of life, I will go to my grave remembering the support that I got from this site,and my son knows this, unfortunately Charles has dyslexia so in reality cant join in but to use a celtic family expression….he knows…..edb I offer to you and your daughters my deepest thoughts and sympathies and may the mother of your family rest in peace ktf

  10. My hope is that Victor will come to realise that another year at CP will not only assist him to mature and improve, but with CL exposure his reputation and value will soar. The chance to match his ability with the elite of Europe is a far better prospect than battling to beat relegation in the lower half of the EPL.

     

    Celtic can afford to use him sparingly and not have to play him in every game when he is tired or not 100% fit.

     

    VW should do a Petrov and sign an extension with a transfer clause guaranteeing that come the summer of 2014 Victor will be able to leave on Celtic receiving an offer exceeding 15 million pounds or more.

  11. WGS

     

     

     

    14:10 on 23 June, 2013

     

     

     

    The worst thing to happen to Rangers was the inroduction of the Internet and blogs and websites like this.

     

     

    We all knew what was happening but couldn’t prove it!!

     

    the worst thing to happen to them was Lisbon 1967

  12. Sincere condolences and prayers for El Diego boy and family. God bless you all Unew mike

  13. Celtic’s seeding will plant ambition of progress in Europe

     

     

    Graeme Macpherson

     

     

    Football Writer.

     

     

    Monday 24 June 2013

     

     

     

     

    THE long road back to the group stage of the Champions League begins in earnest for Celtic today when they discover who they will face in the second qualifying round of the competition.

     

     

    Hibernian and St Johnstone also await news of their opponents at the same stage of the Europa League.

     

     

    Celtic last season made it through two qualifying rounds en route to the last 16 but this time the challenge is more difficult, Neil Lennon’s side needing to negotiate three rounds of qualifying. The good news is that they will be seeded at every stage and in the easier “champions path”, meaning they will avoid opposition from the big five leagues of England, Spain, Germany, France and Italy.

     

     

    Celtic could face one of 17 different opponents when the draw is made in Nyon, although in previous seasons UEFA have tended to break teams up into smaller pots just before the draw, with precedent suggesting some sort of regionalisation will be used. That could enable Celtic to avoid teams like Bosnia’s Zeljeznicar Sarajevo, the top-rated unseeded side, but could pair them instead with a British or Irish side; The New Saints of Wales, Irish club Sligo Rovers and Northern Ireland’s Cliftonville are unseeded.

     

     

    A trip to Iceland or the Faroes could also be on the cards and there may be an either/or scenario for Celtic, with two first round ties yet to be played. The first leg is to take place on July 16 or 17, with the return a week later.

     

     

    Hibs and St Johnstone will also discover their fate when the draw for the second qualifying round of the Europa League is made today. Teams will likely be split into smaller groups, of probably 10 teams, before the draw is made too, although at the time of writing a place in the third round – when Motherwell enter the fray – may require one of Russian’s Rubin Kazan, Standard Liege of Belgium, or Israel’s Hapoel Tel-Aviv to be overcome. The ties will be played on July 18 and 25.

     

     

    Celtic could face one of 17 different opponents when the draw is made in Nyon, although in previous seasons UEFA have tended to break teams up into smaller pots just before the draw, with precedent suggesting some sort of regionalisation will be used. That could enable Celtic to avoid teams like Bosnia’s Zeljeznicar Sarajevo, the top-rated unseeded side, but could pair them instead with a British or Irish side; The New Saints of Wales, Irish club Sligo Rovers and Northern Ireland’s Cliftonville are unseeded.

     

     

    A trip to Iceland or the Faroes could also be on the cards and there may be an either/or scenario for Celtic, with two first round ties yet to be played. The first leg is to take place on July 16 or 17, with the return a week later.

     

     

    Hibs and St Johnstone will also discover their fate when the draw for the second qualifying round of the Europa League is made today. Teams will likely be split into smaller groups, of probably 10 teams, before the draw is made too, although at the time of writing a place in the third round – when Motherwell enter the fray – may require one of Russian’s Rubin Kazan, Standard Liege of Belgium, or Israel’s Hapoel Tel-Aviv to be overcome. The ties will be played on July 18 and 25.

  14. KOJO this blog is in mourning for one of its own, just stop this jingoistic nonsense, it is so wrong one of our own has lost one of their own,you think still laughin is appropriate. p67 could you deal with this please….kojo …it may well be to late to say sorry……I am not the conscience of this blog but i’m skunnered

  15. Dubaibhoy-"If I signed off the accounts it has been in good faith." on

    Big Nan

     

    22:13 on

     

    23 June, 2013

     

    Re Deloitte’s, I said that they would not react well to the talk of Chaals having their people in Leeds in his pocket.

     

     

    Deloitte’s reputation as a world leader in accountancy would ensure that they would correct the impression that Chaals had saddled them with.

     

     

    They are too big a brand to let some corrupt Scottish freemasons wreck them.

     

     

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    That’ll be the same Deloitte that has been banned from operating in NYC for 12 months and given a 10m USD fine?

     

     

    Their standards are only as good as their paymasters.

  16. Posted earlier after reading the sad news from EDB.

     

    I was intending to stay off CQN after posting my condolences to Jim and his family…

     

    But I feel compelled to post once more.

     

     

    In quiet moments today between looking after the kids and attending to chores I realized that a number of my friends and associates have had to deal with bereavement over the last couple of weeks. I also realized, from personal experience, that while words of comfort and support are welcome and helpful, they do not remove the shock, emptiness and emotional vacuum that the loss of a loved one brings.

     

     

    In the last few days a respected investigative journalist, Michael Hastings died at the age of 33. He was a true journalist, who spoke truth to power. An award winning journalist. The New York Times published an obituary that proved controversial to his friends and family. It misrepresented his work and the outcomes of his work. His wife responded…

     

     

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/michael-hastings-wife_n_3469095.html

     

     

    I cannot imagine anything worse than having a recently deceased loved one being misrepresented in a published obituary, and how that would compound the pain.

     

     

    Which brings me to my reason to post once again today. There is a Scottish parallel to the NYT obituary. It was only six months ago that a journalist in Scotland did something similar….

     

     

    So, in answer to your question at the top of the page Paul67… Robert McElroy perhaps?

     

     

    One thing I will say for The Herald, at least they published a mourning daughters dignified reply….

     

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/obituaries/hugh-adam.19879110

     

     

    The support offered today to EDB illustrates both his contribution to, and the strength of, the CQN online community.

     

     

    Unfortunately one thing is for sure, elements of the MSM will use even the most unfortunate and despicable of times to spin truth, or the reputations of those who speak truth to power. That should trouble any right thinking person.

  17. Dubaibhoy-”If I signed off the accounts it has been in good faith.”

     

     

    05:29 on 24 June, 2013

     

     

    Big Nan

     

    22:13 on

     

    23 June, 2013

     

    Re Deloitte’s, I said that they would not react well to the talk of Chaals having their people in Leeds in his pocket.

     

     

    Deloitte’s reputation as a world leader in accountancy would ensure that they would correct the impression that Chaals had saddled them with.

     

     

    They are too big a brand to let some corrupt Scottish freemasons wreck them.

     

     

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    That’ll be the same Deloitte that has been banned from operating in NYC for 12 months and given a 10m USD fine?

     

     

    Their standards are only as good as their paymasters.

     

    ………………………………………………………………………………….

     

     

    Dubaibhoy, I only spoke as I found them in their capacity as my auditors some years ago, and at that time they (or their Edinburgh office) were sticklers for accuracy and good book-keeping. There was no half measures.

     

     

    If what you say is correct then I would imagine that the New York office will be subject to the same scrutiny and change of faces that the Leeds office will be after Chaals’s comments.

     

     

    For self-preservation if nothing else.

     

     

    “Use us as your auditors and we’ll do anything you say and sign any accounts you put in front of us” won’t get a big share of the market, and Deloittes know that much at least.

  18. The Boy Jinky on

    Crushed nuts made a great point late last night

     

     

    If the daily mail can publish a copy of gus poyets e mail to the Brighton staff.. why cant they print the charlotte mails etc.

  19. The boy jinky- because they know the source of the Poyet email. There’s still questions about where and how the CF stuff came from.

  20. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    The Poyet email was confidential, to sender and recipient. Chuckles dismissed Sandaza because of the content of a recorded, Sandaza did not authorise that recording or give consent for it’s distribution yet Chuckles saw fit to act, the MSM reported.

     

    Nobody has disputed the truth of the material, as far as I’m aware nobody has demanded an enquiry into the source of the leaks. In fact, aside from internet bampots, nobody has reported nothing about anything anywhere in the MSM!!!

  21. twists n turns on

    Good morning CQN

     

     

    Champions league draw will be screened live today on Uefa.com

  22. twists n turns on

    Timings.

     

     

    “The draws for the UEFA Champions League first and second qualifying rounds and UEFA Europa League first qualifying round will begin at 12.00CET and 13.00CET respectively, with the UEFA Europa League second qualifying round draw to follow at 14.30CET”

  23. twists n turns on

    First qualifying round draw

     

    EB/Streymur (FRO)

     

    SP Tre Penne (SMR)

     

    FC Lusitans (AND)

     

    FC Shirak (ARM)

     

     

    Second qualifying round draw

     

    FC BATE Borisov (BLR)

     

    Celtic FC (SCO)

     

    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)

     

    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)

     

    GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)

     

    FK Partizan (SRB)

     

    Legia Warszawa (POL)

     

    FC Sheriff (MDA)

     

    NK Maribor (SVN)

     

    ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)

     

    IF Elfsborg (SWE)

     

    Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)

     

    Molde FK (NOR)

     

    HJK Helsinki (FIN)

     

    FK Ekranas (LTU)

     

    Neftçi PFK (AZE)

     

    FC Dinamo Tbilisi (GEO)

     

    FK Željezničar (BIH)

     

    FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)

     

    Győri ETO FC (HUN)

     

    The New Saints FC (WAL)

     

    PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL)

     

    Sligo Rovers FC (IRL)

     

    FC Shakhter Karagandy (KAZ)

     

    KS Skënderbeu (ALB)

     

    Birkirkara FC (MLT)

     

    FK Vardar (MKD)

     

    Cliftonville FC (NIR)

     

    FC Daugava Daugavpils (LVA)

     

    FK Sutjeska (MNE)

     

    JK Nõmme Kalju (EST)

     

    CS Fola Esch (LUX)

  24. twists n turns on

    Seeded Teams

     

    Q39.175 BATE Borisov (Belarus)

     

    Q37.538 Celtic (Scotland)

     

    35.604 Steaua Bucuresti (Romania)

     

    28.745 Viktoria Plzen (Czech Republic)

     

    Q25.916 Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia)

     

    17.425 Partizan (Serbia)

     

    13.650 Legia Warsaw (Poland)

     

    11.533 Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova)

     

    9.941 Maribor (Slovenia)

     

    8.341 Slovan Bratislava (Slovakia)

     

    Q8.125 Elfsborg (Sweden)

     

    Q8.075 Maccabi Tel Aviv (Israel)

     

    Q7.835 Molde (Norway)

     

    Q6.701 HJK Helsinki (Finland)

     

    Q6.300 Ekranas (Lithuania)

     

    5.708 Neftchi Baku (Azerbaijan)

     

    5.333 Dinamo Tbilisi (Georgia

     

    ——————————————————

     

    Non Seeded Teams

     

    4.566 Zeljeznicar (Bosnia)

     

    Q4.083 FH (Iceland)

     

    3.850 Gyor (hungary)

     

    Q3.766 The New Saints (Wales)

     

    3.450 Ludogorets Razgrad (Bulgaria)

     

    Q3.225 Sligo Rovers (Ireland)

     

    Q2.941 Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)

     

    2.833 Skenderbeu Korçe (Albania)

     

    2.541 Birkirkara (Malta)

     

    2.316 EB/Streymur (Faroes)

     

    2.116 Cliftonville (N. Ireland)

     

    Q1.658 Daugava Daugavpils (Latvia)

     

    1.300 Sutjeska (Montenegro)

     

    Q1.191 Nomme Kalju (Estonia)

     

    1.100 FC Lusitanos (Andora)

     

    1.050 Turnovo (Macedonia)

     

    0.925 Fola Esch (Luxembourg

  25. squire danaher on

    In above list we can get anyone from FK Željezničar (BIH) downwards although it seems every media source commenting on story has used B Kassies comment re: some form of regionalisation in draw

     

     

    Hopefully no Balkans or further east given weather

     

     

    Faroes will do nice – we’ve never been before so another place off our UEFA “places to go” list

  26. charles kickham on

    twists n turns

     

     

    07:18 on 24 June, 2013

     

     

    some man – you answered my question before I even asked it :-)

  27. twists n turns on

    For those who like to plan ahead, and get their flights and hotels booked early, here are the important dates:-)

     

     

    I think I’ll play the pessimist and just arrange for the Europa League final.

     

     

     

    Champions League final : Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica 2014 May 24th 20.45 CET

     

     

     

    2014 UEFA Europa League final Juventus Stadium, Turin, Wednesday 14 May, 20.45CET

  28. the long wait is over on

    EDB

     

     

    My condolences on your terrible loss.

     

     

    I too have a wife and two daughters. I can’t imagine how broken you and your family must feel.

     

     

    I hope that time and good memories will ease your pain.

     

     

    Tlwio.