Soft capitulation adds to stress

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A good number of us managed to avoid a panicked reaction after the defeat to Midtjylland on Wednesday.  That position can under stress on Saturday evening.  Despite making Hearts look every inch a promoted side who were unable to pass the ball, Celtic again lost to a team with a fraction of their resources.  It was a soft capitulation.

Carl Starfelt endured a nightmare debut.  Skinned by Ginnelly in the build up to the first goal, he tried to make amends but only succeeded in surrendering his position goal-side of Liam Boyce.  Boyce continued to torment the central defender for the rest of the game.

Hearts winner was a textbook copy of Midtjylland’s opener on Wednesday.  An angled free kick into the box should have been met by a Celtic defender before it dropped enough for an attacker to make contact but John Souttar had freedom of the Celtic area to choose his spot.

Anthony Ralston earlier looked to have set Celtic straight with a sublime goal that, like Callum McGregor’s on Wednesday, deserved a better result.

Bobby Madden should have red carded Andy Halliday for an uncontrolled lunge that ended with his studs in Callum McGregor’s ankle, but the referee chose to caution the player instead.  Liel Abada made another perfectly timed run into the box to score but Greg Taylor was adjudged offside.  The decision was generous to the home side.

It hardly needs saying that Starfelt will get better.  Christopher Jullien took weeks to settle into Celtic in less stressful times.  Kyogo Furuhashi was given the closing 11 minutes but was unable to make an impact.

Ange Postecoglou has two days on the training field with the players to practice attacking the ball when defending set pieces before they fly to Jablonec.  If he is to effect a remarkable recovery this season, it has to start soon.

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  1. It’ll take a lot more than 2 days on the training pitch to fix our defence, reinforcements it has to be. por cierto

  2. Leftfield question — do we pay agents to help us get players in?

     

    Do we pay agents to help us get players out?

     

     

    The player will look after their own agent.

     

    So do we as a club employ agents to get stuff done?

     

     

    Chatter from a couple of sources would suggest that we do.

     

    Not sure when this started so any info would be appreciated.

  3. Yes, lots of agents assist clubs in finding other clubs for their players. If that happens then there are 3 or maybe more, agents fees to be paid, por cierto.

  4. P67

     

     

    The article comes over a bit snidey — too snidey — for my liking.

     

    AH got booked — must have missed that.

     

    When in the tunnel?

     

     

    CS — Who scouted him / who wanted him?

     

    AP — On a CQN warning already?

     

    I wonder who had that idea first?

  5. I don’t believe the odious toad Halliday got booked not showing up on BBC web site … Bobby making allowances for the Hearts players being slower than our better ball players

     

     

    Retro Red surely

  6. PC @ 12.09

     

     

    No wonder our cost base is so high and our finances are wrecked.

     

    Using agents on behalf of the club is a red flag regarding money leaving the club.

     

    Who selects the agents and decides how much they get?

     

    Any stipulations on what the agent can do with his cut?

     

     

    Have the club had to order in more brown envelopes recently?

     

    I say recently — 2005 would be a good place to start.

  7. 67 European Cup Winners on

    MADMITCH on 2ND AUGUST 2021 12:07 PM

     

    I answered this on last thread

     

    Your question is not left field

     

    its a sensible question

     

     

     

    67ECW

  8. The high line defensive set up for the winning goal was madness – 4 of us watching said this before the free kick was taken.

  9. P67 is quite right, our manager should now be taking the players through their defensive ABCs this week.

     

     

    Because we’ve retained two coaching staff that haven’t a clue how to do it.

     

     

    Ange, it’s very much up to you.

  10. squire danaher on

    Halliday did not get a yellow card.

     

     

    If he gets a retrospective Red that will apparently be the fifth instance involving Madden failing to punish foul play v Celtic.

     

     

    If we sit and take it they will continue to do it.

     

     

    Celtic – grow a pair.

  11. MM,

     

     

    Have you only discovered Agents.You been living in a cave in the Sinai the past 20 years?

  12. Salary Sport / Football showing AZ to have a wage bill at 30% of ours.

     

    Usual provisos apply — their methodology shows everybody’s wage bill as being low.

     

     

    However it is a data point to get things started.

  13. SQUIRE DANAHER on 2ND AUGUST 2021 12:18 PM

     

    Halliday did not get a yellow card.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If he gets a retrospective Red that will apparently be the fifth instance involving Madden failing to punish foul play v Celtic.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If we sit and take it they will continue to do it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Celtic – grow a pair.

     

     

    Exactly.Not as if it’s a one off.Huns were quick to derail Golum,sleekitly,on Religious grounds,though,God only knows why.We should be asking for a ban on him reffing our games,until the incidents are checked.At least it has to get publicity.

  14. TB @ 12.19

     

     

    I have only discovered the club using agents to conduct our business.

     

     

    Would have expected it with players going out — finder’s fee.

     

    Do not expect the club to be paying agents to bring players in.

     

    What hurdles are they helping us the clear?

     

     

    The mythical £60K hurdle that always seem to miraculously appear when we are doing business?

     

     

    Surely PL is now retired from the frontline?

     

    Or maybe not.

  15. squire danaher on

    SUPERSUTTON on 2ND AUGUST 2021 12:21 PM

     

     

    Madden thinks he’s a players referee who ‘manages’ games by personality/buddying.

     

     

    He is generally reluctant to show many cards at the best of times but the Halliday challenge was bang out of order and deserving of a red card on the basis of ‘endangering an opponent’.

  16. A Red can be debated all day by the sleekits,but for Madden not to even yellow card him,is a grotesque decision.Could have been a season ending lunge.

  17. SD @ 12.25

     

     

    BM ref’s games like the TFOD2.1 fan(***) boy that he is.

     

    He only seems to have a laugh at our expense.

  18. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Blah, blah. Who’s responsible? Accountable?

     

     

    Alkmaar draw means Uefa conference (at best).

     

     

    Huns’ luck continues. Malmö, Kairat and Aleshkert between them and ECL money.

     

     

    They take risks. So do we – Lennon, downsizing etc all involve risk too. Based on the above, whose risks are being rewarded?

     

     

    We have our worst team in 30 years. We are looking down the barrel of a hun Generation of Domination.

     

     

    When history takes the long view of Lawwell’s legacy it will make for grim reading…

     

     

    Turns out his critics were right all along.

  19. Madden really has done his pal no favours by not booking him, as I believe he wouldn’t be up for a retrospective red if he’s been booked, por cierto

  20. Reading some of the comments,not just on here,but I sincerely hope,that after 1 appearance,Starfelt is not a target for the “Critics”.1 days training.Playing with a partner who is not a CH,I thought he did well.As Celtic fans we only seem to focus on our own,it’s natural,but be assured,100 million quid CHs make howlers

     

    ,some regularly,as do all players.

     

    Because of my situation,I tend to watch loads of football here,howlers in abundance.

     

    Stay calm,give the guy a chance.

  21. AZ finished 1 point behind PSV last season and I thought we had no hope against PSV…

     

     

    We’ve been handed a brutal Europa league draw.

  22. It’s all a bit harum-scarum at the minute. Players who have been so coached into ball retention, even if that means side-to-side or middle-to-back, are now being asked to get through the gears quickly, with more one touch passing. It is quite pleasing on the eye but results in no team shape whatsoever and very high risk, even against moderate opponents. The level of player required to execute this strategy successfully is way above our pay grade. Until we source, and integrate, better quality, a compromise is required.

     

     

    Fair play to Tony Ralston however, a gutsy performance and a wonderful goal. The immediate priority remains a goalie and a left back. Wee Taylor should be playing in the Ayrshire derby tonight, and not continuing be be an affront to our jersey.

  23. Come on Celtic help Ange out.

     

     

    Go get him some quality recruits not projects.

     

     

    D :)

  24. BB @ 12.23

     

     

    That fact needs more publicity.

     

    I wonder if their shared pastimes extends to “knuckle crunching”?

  25. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Actually seeing some signs of proper coaching – passages of play that look like they have been worked on on the training ground.

     

    Was really pleased with the onside offside goal – patient passing to work an opening then a quickening up of play to create the chance and excellent movement from Abada, coming in off the opposite side to finish it off. Very Man City-like. Maybe something that is already in Abada’s game, but it looked well rehearsed in any case. If we can keep doing these kind of moves this season we will score a lot of goals.

     

    Still plenty to work on – defending in particular. And of course recruitment has to be stepped up.

  26. Three points worse off than this time last season, releasing / selling players doesn’t seem affected by Covid, Brexit, or plain red tape, with the Champions League gone, since the last window,

     

     

    out of through the revolving door

     

     

    Frimpong

     

    El Hamed

     

    Klimala

     

    Bayo

     

    Ntcham

     

    Ajer

     

    Hendry

     

    Brown

     

    Shved

     

    Laxalt. loan

     

    Duffy. loan

     

    Kenny loan

     

    MOI loan

     

     

    In the revolving door

     

     

    Edouard, Christie, Bolingoli next for the revolving door

     

     

    Players in ( only two close to first team selection )

     

     

    Shaw

     

    Urhoghide 

     

    Lawal

     

    Abada

     

    Hurihashi

     

     

    Season tickets sold there’s a massive void in the wage bill, never mind the team, despite the ever diminishing values of the players still for sale. Most Celtic supporters have an opinion on what we need but there’s never been such unanimity about the enormity of the job.

     

     

    Don’t let them kid you, Celtic have the money and we’ve given them the wage bill, the minimum requirements a first choice goalkeeper, first choice right back, first choice left back, new defensive midfielder, a first choice striker that scores.

     

     

    Very quiet Dominic?

  27. “Celtic again lost to a team with a fraction of their resources”

     

     

    Watch out, Ange. Paul is firmly putting this one on you already.

     

     

    Paul can’t jeopardise his access at the clubs, so expect more pressure to be applied to you, Ange.

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