SPFL streaming services and fans exclusion from football

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Having disposed of Celtic and AZ Alkmaar in earlier Conference League knockout rounds, Bodo/Glimt return to Rome tonight to face Roma (why we insist on calling the city one name and the club another, when they answer to exactly the same word is perplexing).  In November, on Europa League duty, they drew 2-2 with Roma, after defeating Jose Mourinho’s men 6-1 in Norway.

Our season that has already delivered so much, has European blots in August and February.  The defeats to Bodo/Glimt, in particular, were an indication of how much work still has to be done.  I would like to see the Norwegians go even deeper into the tournament, if only to offer a reflective glow on our own performance against them, but that feels too much like grasping for straws.

SPFL chief exec Neil Doncaster said he expected Pass to Paradise and other clubs’ streaming services to stop for domestic viewers from next season.  There remains a significant number of season ticket holders shielding and unable to congregate in large crowds.

The League is dependent on Sky TV’s largess here.  Sky changed the terms of their contract to permit Pass to Paradise-type services, a return to business as usual was always on the cards.  Before that happens, a Health Accommodation exclusion is worth exploring, especially now season ticket renewals have been issued.

I know one season ticket holder who has not attended since the socially distanced game against Dundee in August.  What happens next affects real people, real fans and their exclusion from football.

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  1. EL @ 1.06

     

     

    Why would there always be spare tickets?

     

    Looks like predatory behaviour by a cartel.

     

     

    Hoover up all the tickets to control the supply and shift the spares when needed — not good.

     

     

    The away support — incredible that such a thing exists — acts like a club within a club.

     

    It needs democratized and new blood added to improve the gene pool and the songbook.

     

     

    How the Fann**s with their monogrammed sweatshirts manage to get tickets is all the proof you need to understand the failure of the current arrangements — they must have Arts Council support as an Absurdist Street Performance Collective to make it all work.

  2. AD @ 1.31

     

     

    F1 is not the sport it once was with the ability of outsiders to make their mark and a selection of challengers in with a chance of the title.

     

     

    Drivers winning multiple titles on the bounce is the result of its lack of competition not the discovery of a wonderkid every decade.

     

     

    And that was before the made for TV buffoonery of last season’s finale.

     

    Football will be doomed when we start to see next goal the winner nonsense.

     

    That is entertainment not sport.

  3. MADMITCH on 7TH APRIL 2022 1:33 PM

     

    EL @ 1.06

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Why would there always be spare tickets?

     

     

     

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    Supporters buses. People don’t turn up. Mibae been lifted by plod, mibae their granny died, mibae have to finish writing their dissertation. All sorts of reasons.

     

     

    The point is that people who are committed enough to take a risk to travel with no guarantee of getting a ticket can get lucky. That’s a better way of allocating tickets than handing them out to the Karens moaning on the internet.

  4. MADMITCH on 7TH APRIL 2022 1:41 PM

     

     

    F1 is not the sport it once was with the ability of outsiders to make their mark and a selection of challengers in with a chance of the title.

     

     

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    A tad ironic MM.

     

     

    Scottish football: from August until May, 42 SPFL clubs kick a ball about a park, and at the end of it all…………………………….a team called Celtic usually picks up all the big prizes.

     

     

    And that is just the way we like it !

     

     

    #AlwaysInOurSlipstream

  5. Whilst still basking in the glow of the Sevco victory, thopughts turn to where Ange will take us to and what areas do we need to upgrade.

     

     

    Despite the groundswell, I still feel we have major upgrades required all across the back 4.

     

     

    Individuals are now turning into cult figures but the reality is they are not going to take us to the next level in Europe. Our goals against in European competition this was cringeworthy. The guys we have just wont do.

     

     

    Fantastic stats are easier with 80% possession, but top quality opposition will exploit our weakness.

     

     

    I expect to see an influx of ball playing defenders next year. Dare i say, some in the ilk of Kriss Ajer who would have been the perfect fit for Ange

  6. I can’t stop thinking about the game on Saturday; hugely important.

     

     

    Previous Celtic teams have huffed and puffed at this point – 2011 we followed up wins over Rangers with dropped points twice; the run in to 2019 was horrible (late win in Dundee and 2x 0-0 at CP)

     

     

    St J are in trouble due to an extreme lack of scoring prowess. Defensively decent and organised but impotent.

     

     

    A horrible 0-0 is looming in my head and I want rid of it by 3.15pm Saturday with us 1-0 up by them. Finish them off second half.

     

     

    Sorry for the nerves, been here too many times ( I won’t mention the obvious parallel season as I still haven’t got over it!!)

     

     

    hail Hail

  7. EL @ 1.45

     

     

    You have got me there …

     

     

    What does a tribe located in south east Myanmar — Burma in old money — have to do with the allocation of away tickets to the support?

     

     

    And why would they be on the interweb complaining about it?

     

     

    I am all for the club exploring new markets but I would have expected them to target larger tribal identities with a greater tradition in the game.

     

     

    The Karens are more into elephant polo than they are into football — big mistake on your part I am afraid.

     

     

    Surely the Bamar or the Shan would be better candidates for a recruitment drive or even the Rohingya if we were going down the political brownie point route.

  8. The Bamar / The Shan — sounds more like 1960’s ad hoc community groups / street performance artistes / machete jugglers from the ghost streets of E/house than South east Asian tribal groupings.

  9. Paul67, re Roma – see also the mystery of the strange hybrid of Bayern Munich! (Bayern Munchen or Bavaria Munich, pick one and stick with it! :))

  10. bashi-bazouks on

    CONEYBHOY on 7TH APRIL 2022 2:05 PM

     

    and I’m forever haunted by 2004-05 and helicopter Sunday. After beating Rangers after the split we took our eye of the ball and lost 3-1 to Hibs at CP and then there was the last day at Motherwell…..

     

    No room for complacency , game on Saturday requires total focus.

  11. NTB @ 2.05

     

     

    Improve the defence by all means but the issue we have is the lack of a DM.

     

    Fix that and our defence will get by.

     

     

    I fact the MF is the issue we have regarding our loss of poor goals.

     

     

    TFOD2.1 goal on Sunday — the issue is TR watching it all happen from the half way line.

     

     

    JNPF is trying to help out but CB gets the pass away to BB aka RK taking JJ out of the game.

     

    RK drives into the box and nobody closes him down — easy pass.

  12. BASHI-BAZOUKS on 7TH APRIL 2022 2:18 PM

     

    I feel dirty for just mentioning 2004-05…

     

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    you should wear a hair shirt for a week😎

  13. quadrophenian on

    When we talk of backline upgrades, there seems less yakk about left back being as big an issue – now wee Greg has left a few doubters – if not wrong – less damning about his abilities or defiencies (he was grand on Sunday!)

     

    It made me check the pine from Sunday’s victory – and I just realised there was no Scales.

     

    Injured. Or just not fancied ?

  14. Poignant article Paul, just because we are better than ‘Rangers’ and Hearts doesn´t make us world beaters. And as you point out the television/Internet rights soap opera is casting a shadow over the end of the season with the financial future uncertain. As Roberttressell said the football authorities in Scotland don´t have the vision or the necesssary wherewithals to take the bull by the horns and embrace decentralisation. Celtic do not depend exclusively on this annual centralised “TV” money however, and it should never be allowed to dominate our finances as we would lose our independence.

     

     

    Celtic need to up their media offerings on Celtic TV quickly. It is parochial, amateurish, plagued with persons who clearly have no idea about football. The weekend interviewer of Ange, McGregor and Taylor asked all of them practically the same questions and they were all cliche questions. And the three football men spoke much better than the interviewer!! Celtic has such an amazing history, it needs more programmes about that and the fans! Fewer university graduate chaps and chapesses on screen and in commentary teams! Those well-educated wee souls are better employed in the finance department.

  15. Tom McLaughlin on

    ERNIE LYNCH

     

     

    Every time our supporters bus pulls up at its away destination it is approached by young people holding money above their heads.

     

     

    My mate Cochice and I hitherto speculated that they were financial speculators trying to sell currency to the highest bidder.

     

     

    Now thanks to you I realise they were hoping to purchase any spare tickets going.

     

     

    They would be better served trying to buy rupees.

  16. MM

     

     

    Overthinking the Sevco goal, our right back was out of position and our back line was caught cold.

     

     

    it was a good run by Kent and an excellent finish by Paterson.

  17. QUADROPHENIAN

     

     

    I think Greg is playing at the top of his game, and is giving his all every tome he plays, but i would disagree about his performance on Sunday,

     

     

    He was caught out of position a number of times. the Arbo challenge where he recovered well was all down to poor reading of the game.

     

     

    Definately a position I would like to see strengthened next year

  18. NTB @ 2.42

     

     

    No — have to disagree.

     

    That way Euro failure comes.

     

    And on a regular basis.

     

     

    We were poor on Sunday — they were worse.

     

    B/G would have beaten us with that level of performance.

     

    We might have sneaked a draw if LA scores with one of his two chances.

     

     

    Also our shooting from outside the box — terrible to the point that we seem to be targeting Row Z instead of the goal.

     

     

    We need a proper DM.

  19. BSR @ 1:33

     

    Someone needs to take control of Celtic football club and its non football political wing Ian Bankier, Brian Wilson with one or two others, just cannot do it, move along, or retire, write your memoirs. The league title, is far, from being won.

     

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    “The Grass Is Always Greener….:”

     

     

    Who would you have “taking control of Celtic football club”? I see no billionaires, or, conglomerates, on the horizon, and unlike Ibrox, we have no queue of ‘well-heeled’ supporters lining-up with £100m+ ‘burning a hole in their pockets’. The club is run so well that even if there were such a group, they would be superfluous.

     

     

    What is “its non football political wing Ian Bankier, Brian Wilson with one or two others”. I see no overt political stance from anywhere inside Celtic. What kind of non-football political-wing would you like to see, and what kind of pressure/action would you like it to pursue?

     

     

    I absolutely agree “The league title, is far, from being won”, but if, and when it is, it will be ten titles in eleven years, and who knows, possibly five trebles too. That kind of record would be hard, if not impossible, to follow, even for a ‘dream team’ comprising the Trust & the GB, with all their accumulated business experience.

     

     

    Celtic will not respond with ‘knee-jerk’ reaction – will not get involved in public ‘tit for tat’ skirmishes with other clubs, or, pick public fights with football authorities, or, put the club in jeopardy by pursuing a high-risk financial model. Would you wish a ‘new regime’ that did all of that? If so, I suggest you are very much in the minority of Celtic supporters.

     

     

    Of course, like any multi-million pound business, changes and improvements must be implemented moving forward – mistakes will be made, rectified and learned from….but surely we don’t want to hand our club over to the kind of people and organisations that currently control many English clubs, or, indeed be in the hands of the ‘spivs’ that have wreaked havoc on our biggest Scottish rivals.

     

     

    Cave Quid Volunt

  20. CONEYBHOY on 7TH APRIL 2022 2:05 PM

     

    You are certainly not alone re the nerves ! I will be trying to encourage our team on Saturday but I will be worried as hell until ( and if ) we go two up.

  21. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Oldtim- lovely to see you posting Davie

     

     

    Lurking Tim- all the best to your mum

  22. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 7TH APRIL 2022 3:13 PM

     

     

    :-)))

  23. When I try to minimise my CQN page to check something or other (Cave quid volunt, for instance), the whole site disappears and I have to start again.

     

    This just started today.

     

    Anyyone help?

  24. A silly question on a slow day I know, a “what if . . .” if you like.

     

     

    If we were to win the title this season and next, do you think Ange will stay on or will he seek a new challenge?

     

     

    I appreciate there are loads of variables at play, but just asking for your gut feeling – is he here for the long term (4-5 years let’s say, long enough to ensure our organisation and football infrastructure is left in markedly better shape than it was when he arrived)?

     

     

    Or will our esteemed leaders manage to somehow mess up a good thing? Feel they are not getting the credit they are due, speding too much etc. etc.

  25. Hrvatski Jim on

    HOT SMOKED on 7TH APRIL 2022 3:24 PM

     

    When I try to minimise my CQN page to check something or other (Cave quid volunt, for instance), the whole site disappears and I have to start again.

     

     

    This just started today.

     

     

    Anyyone help?

     

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    Learn Latin!

  26. Deniabhoy

     

     

    I think football managers who move abroad are like any other professional who moves. It’s either a 3 year experience/contract or it’s a full emigration for family reason’s or they like that country.

     

     

    A lot depends on family and I don’t know whether his are in Glasgow or not. I assume his wife is and children grown up/students?

     

     

    We had an Aussie running our Singapore office for years and his sons were in boarding school in Sydney. I wouldn’t have liked that but he obviously was payed well

     

     

    In summary, I think he will stay for 3 seasons and do another European gig with his wife before returning home

     

     

    PS the above is based on absolutely nothing at all…………

  27. Oh, if we do win the league, Ange should get a hefty pay rise (especially as he didn’t bring an expensive entourage with him)

  28. CONEYBHOY on 7TH APRIL 2022 3:39 PM

     

     

    Using the same basis as yourself,but taking a more positive outlook,I think he will stay for ever.

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