SPL dominoes might all fancy ditching HMRC debt

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It’s difficult not to associate Hearts’ owner, Vladimir Romanov’s outburst on their club website yesterday with the current issue over Rangers finances, which could soon see the SPL, the SFA and the media take sides between Rangers and their creditors, in particular HM Revenue and Customs.

Romanov’s rant on the demise of the Scottish game was ignorable until he dragged in the “tax authorities” for blame.  As you and I know, the tax authorities don’t play favourites, they collect vat, income, corporation and other taxes in line with the law.

Hearts failed to pay player wages last month and Romanov now says, “there is no point is spending millions to watch someone else’s show”.  Most of Hearts debt is owed to Romanov’s own bank but if player wages are unpaid there is a good chance HMRC will also be outstanding, explaining the “tax authorities” reference.

If a new football club playing at Ibrox is ushered into the SPL with a points tally calculated from the position of a defunct Rangers you can expect a gold-rush of clubs ready to flush their debts to the country, and history, away.

Well done to STV who yesterday revealed the actual decision making process which would be put in place to judge an application to join the league midseason or at any other time.  The SPL board, by simple majority, have the decision, while the SFA need to ratify membership.

If the SPL board vote to reward bad debtors’ shares in their league what incentive would most clubs have to pay their bills?  Fortunately, our history is more valuable than any amount of cash.

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  1. Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on

    2010 Never Again

     

     

    From CSA Website

     

     

    http://www.thecsa.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479

     

     

     

    “More Bad News for Salmond”

     

     

    It is really difficult to talk about football just now, I make a point of not criticising Celtic players on this web site; it’s about supporting our team; not condemning it.

     

     

    But I have to say, I wish some of our players were as committed to the cause as some of our supporters.

     

    The turn-out at the public demonstration in George Square on Saturday was amazing; and even more so considering the weather.

     

     

    What happened after the Demo at Celtic Park with the apparent heavy handed approach by the Police is another story, I met with Ronnie Hawthorn today about that; I intend to now meet with the Police.

     

    Which brings me to another point; everyone knows how the new legislation came about after the so-called “Shame Game”.

     

     

    Strathclyde’s Chief Constable Stephen House and King Alex called a summit to blame all the ills of Scottish society on football supporters.

     

     

    Now as King Alex is a self-confessed Hearts supporter; why didn’t he call a summit after their “Shame Game” at the week-end?

     

     

    I mean, Hearts had a player sent off for violent conduct, the fact that it was Ian Black will come as no surprise to anyone; he compounded his crime by offering his shirt mockingly to the fourth official before going up the tunnel.

     

    Hearts coach Paulo Sergio managed to get himself sent to the stand, and insisted that it should be the referee who was going to the stand.

     

     

    Follow this up with Hearts player Danny Grainger getting tried by television; and found guilty of stamping on Dean Shiels.

     

     

    King Alex would need to sit down and explain to me how we managed to get involved in this piece of political opportunism.

     

     

    I believe Salmond has backed himself into a corner with this one; his vanity won’t let him accept that he made a mistake.

     

     

    So if he won’t change course by his own accord; then we have to make him do it. All the political parties apart from the SNP oppose this new Bill.

     

     

    There is a further debate on the new legislation at Holyrood tomorrow; there are a number of speakers from the other parties who will oppose the new bill.

     

     

    All our supporters need to keep the pressure on the politicians; we must continue to fight against this attack on our freedom of speech and human rights.

     

     

    Maybe our next move will be to take the fight right to Holyrood itself and have a demonstration outside the Parliament.

     

     

    One good bit of advice to Mr Salmond; when you’re in a hole stop digging.

  2. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:37

     

    I still can’t get my head around why fans think that, the sectarian establishment will allow the hun to die ?

     

    Please, Please, Please accept the fact that….

     

     

    Scotland IS the huns/the huns ARE Scotland!!!!

     

     

    That is the way it always has been and, always will be in this nice wee place!

     

     

    F#ck the tax-case…get Celtic sorted!

     

     

    Agreed m8 but us as fans can make life hard for them if they enter admin.

  3. Tom McLaughlin says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 02:14

     

     

    When the social unrest kicks-off, I wonder who will be the first pundit or print-journalist to say . . . HMRC could have avoided all this !!!

     

    share”

     

     

     

     

    If / When the Huns x 2 go belly up, who will be the first pundit to say… they brought it all on themselves!!

  4. Greensideup is also Neil Lennon says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:37

     

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    And to think we had to put up with almost, daily updates about the so-called Aberdeen ‘thug’ Neil Simpsons tackle on Ian Durrant for the best part of two decades!

     

     

    That is a trick that i have always felt we missed when, the huns signed Hurlock I thought we should have gone to the Dons for Simmie.

     

     

    Fire with Fire CSC

  5. celtfish says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:38

     

     

    Trust me mate the 90 minute rule is easily got around and the EPL have got global tentacles. It is more than football for them. Much more than football and yet for me so much less.

     

     

    Scotland is going to suffer badly unless Scotland can react proportionately. It might take a national ecumenical effort.

  6. Is embdy gone tae the game the night?………………………….kin a get a lift er ,mister?

  7. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:45

     

     

    The comparison between Naibalance and Durrant is nothing but shameful journalism. There is no comparison. Naibalance went to injure the guy.

     

    A more shocking challenge at Pittodrie was the one where McMoist slid in on Snelders and done him a really bad facial injury. What a cheeky chappie. McMoist has always been a cretin and his team reflects that now.

     

     

    I’m sure there will be an out pouring of grief in the press for all round nice guy Mark Wilson who may be out for 6 months with knee injuries. Won’t hold my breath though.

     

     

    Think the Hoops can get a result tonight. 1-0.

     

     

    LB

  8. hen1rik says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:42

     

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    I still wouldn’t count my chickens on the huns going into administration as, we are run by a board of ‘nodding-dogs’ and, if it comes to the final nail in the coffin scenario then, I think the Celtic PLC/Balance-Sheet brigade will save the huns!

     

     

    I’m also disturbed when I think about what Darth Vader once said….”Never Underestimate The Power Of The Dark-Side!!!!”

  9. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:45

     

     

    Absolutely agree Kevin. The problem is, our Club for some reason has usually refused to fight fire with fire.

     

     

    A good example would be Gordon Strachan (great manager for us though he was) making the comment about his team looking like the Seven Dwarves against man Utd. FFS – You signed thenm Gordon… it was you who assembled the team and put them on the park!!!! Strachan’s predecessor never fielded the Seven Dwarves – quite the opposite in fact.

  10. Green Lantern (((((0))))) on

    An Irishman or woman standing up and singing their National Anthem and being arrested for it by the Scottish Stasi.

     

    Surely an infringement of their human rights?

     

    How’s that going to look to the rest of the civilised world?

  11. I heard (All those years ago) that they did nearly as much damage carrying Durrant off the field with his knee jiggling about as the tackle.

     

     

    Naismith’s reminds me of Gazza’s early one for Spurs – I think he’d have gone off if he’d got back up.

     

     

    But my wrath is kept warm for that ger Thomson(? – Broonie’s hibee mate?) when he went down after a horrendous tackle and escaped a booking at Ibrox – that sums up the mentality that’s engendered out that way…

     

     

    U

  12. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:51

     

     

    If the Celtic PLC board/Balance sheet brigade save the Huns there will be a home boycott for a long time.

     

     

    I don’t think they can afford that risk.

     

     

    LB

  13. Not written by me:

     

     

    The ‘Elite Player Performance Plan’ Will Kill Our Game

     

     

    Posted on October 23, 2011 by onthefutbol

     

     

    On Thursday the 23rd of October, the 72 Football League clubs voted in favour of the ‘Elite Player Performance Plan’ (EPPP), a radical new overhaul of the current national youth system. The changes include the scrapping of the current tribunal system, which previously determined the fee a club would have to pay another for a youth player who is out of contract when no agreement between the two could be reached, and the implementation of a ‘tier’ rating for each club’s youth system, ranging from tier 1 to tier 4.

     

     

    Instead of the tribunal system, there will now be a fixed tariff in place to determine the fee a club must pay for a youth player. It is £3,000 per year for a player aged between 9 and 11’s development, with the fee from 12 to 16 ranging between £12,500 and £40,000, dependent on a club’s youth system tier category.

     

     

    Regarding the new tier formulation, clubs’ youth systems are now ranked according to how much staff they employ and how much they spend on their youth development. To be rated as tier 1, the club’s academy must have an annual budget exceeding £2.3m, at least 18 full-time employees, excellent training facilities as well as school places. What a tier 1 ranking gets you is the pick of pretty much all youth players in the country, considering the 90-minute rule has now been abolished. Contact time with youth players will also be increased with tier 1 academies. At the other end of the scale will be the tier 4 academies, acting as a ‘safety net’ and only allowed to pick up previously failed youth players at the age of 16. Tier 3 academies will have no contact with youth players until the age of 12. As it stands, the only academies in the country who will be rated as tier 1 when the EPPP is implemented at the start of the 2012-13 season are Southampton’s, Chelsea’s, and Manchester City’s, but you can expect Manchester United’s, Arsenal’s, and Liverpool’s to have reached this ‘prestigious’ status by that time.

     

     

    The vote passed with 46 votes in favour, 22 against, 3 no-shows and 1 abstention. What is startling about these figures is that 3 clubs didn’t even bother to turn up to the vote of one of the most significant changes to English football, but more importantly, the fact that only 23 clubs had the courage to stand up to the monstrous machine that is the Premier League. All are a credit to the Football League, with the ones who voted in favour a shameful symbol of how our game is being killed off.

     

     

    The EPPP is an attempt to replicate Barcelona’s ‘La Masia’ academy system, leading to increased contact time with youth players

     

     

    The EPPP is a plan drawn up by both the FA and the Premier League, and both these parties, along with several Premier League clubs, are hopeful it will be a success and achieve its aim (which, apparently, is to have all the best young players reaching their potential at all the best academies, thus strengthening the national side). A Premier League spokesman said of the EPP: “The new plan is a great example of English football working together to raise standards across the board.”

     

     

    The questions that have to be asked are, that if the plan is bound to be so successful for English football as a whole, why did the Premier League have to threaten to withdraw the £5m funding they currently provide Football League clubs per annum if they voted against it? This is blackmail in its most blatant form, and is proof as to how flawed the plan actually is that it is required to force it through. More so, is this new scheme really centred on just strengthening the national team? No. It is simply about the big teams hoovering up all the talent in the country. Do you really think that Manchester United, owned by the American Glazers, Manchester City, owned by the Abu Dhabi Sheikhs, or Chelsea, owned by the Russian Abramovich, care one iota for the success of the national team? Of course they don’t, and once again the shortcomings that foreign ownership brings are highlighted.

     

     

    I referred to an academy having a tier 1 status as ‘prestigious’ earlier. Under the new rules, Chelsea would have a tier 1 status, whereas a club like Crystal Palace would have tier 2 status, and thus Chelsea would have the pick of all Crystal Palace’s youth players, as well as increased contact time. But is an academy that currently has 2 home-grown players in its first team squad really ‘better’ than an academy that currently has 11 home-grown players in its first team squad and in fact more graduates playing Premier League football? The EPPP has in part been arranged so that apparent ‘better’ academies can have the best young players in the country. But this ranking system is flawed, and is accordant to the finance of academies rather than assessing just how effective they are at young players fulfilling their potential.

     

     

    In my mind at least, the EPPP is frankly scandalous, and it is an outrage that it has been passed with so little reaction. What it means is that the days of going to watch local players play for your local team will soon be gone (it is estimated that between 30-40 youth systems in the Football League will now be scrapped, such is the pure worthlessness of having such systems with this scheme in place). It means that the rich will be getting richer, and whilst Premier League chief pigs such as Robert Scudamore can jolly it up discussing the ‘39th game’ over their prawn sandwiches, those silly little clubs in the Football League will be fighting to stay afloat, now that a great sum of their income has been removed. What the EPPP is doing is ripping the heart out of our game, the lifeblood of our clubs and it says it all that they had to extort the Football League clubs to make this ridiculous plan pass.

     

     

    Most, if not all, of the Football League clubs who voted in favour are not actually in favour of the EPPP; the vote made for it is a direct result of the threat of the withdrawal of the £5m per annum the Premier League currently grants Football League clubs, money which without, they would find it hard to survive. Barry Fry, Peterborough’s Director of Football, has spoken of how the Premier League’s threat felt like blackmail, whilst co-owner of Crystal Palace Steve Parish has expressed his fury at the agreement, claiming that Football League clubs ‘took their 30 pieces of silver’, and condemned last Thursday as a ‘dreadful day for football’.

     

     

    If you agree with how ridiculous the EPPP is (and I would hope you do; having non-football fans reading this is not something I planned for), I would also hope you agree with the fact that we cannot just sit there at let this happen. We cannot just treat this ruthless action with a vast degree of apathy and accept that our game is dying, and there is nothing we can do.

     

     

    There is a movement, under the heading ‘The 72 Unite’, designed to combat this overhaul of the English game and the disgusting actions of the Premier League. They have made a statement (which I will post in a separate article) and the first course of action is a proposed boycott of the first five minutes of every league game in English football on the weekend of the 29th October, in order to draw attention to how we, the loyal supporters upon which our clubs thrive upon, feel about the prospective changes. This will not be the only event, with more being planned, and it is true that one 5 minute boycott will change nothing, but it is a start and brings a platform for us to voice our disdain.

     

     

    Along with participating in the boycott, we ought to do our part and start circulating not only the group and its plans, but also just how shady and destructive the EPPP is. Something I have been astounded by is how little people know of it, or how many people do not even know of its existence. Football fans up and down the country must be made aware that our game is at risk from the greed of the Premier League; and consequently, the Premier League must be made aware that we are not going to allow this to happen without serious opposition.

  14. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:51

     

    hen1rik says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:42

     

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    I still wouldn’t count my chickens on the huns going into administration as, we are run by a board of ‘nodding-dogs’ and, if it comes to the final nail in the coffin scenario then, I think the Celtic PLC/Balance-Sheet brigade will save the huns!

     

     

    I’m also disturbed when I think about what Darth Vader once said….”Never Underestimate The Power Of The Dark-Side!!!!”

     

     

    True m8 but remember our support are powerful and will defo play a part if the huns think they can spend and cheat to titles and get off scot free.

  15. LiviBhoy says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:50

     

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    You got me wrong.

     

     

    I was reffering to the, out-pouring of grief from the LL ala Durrant.

     

     

    Also, was it not Michael Watt that sneaky sally assaulted ?

     

     

    Re: The ‘Durrant’ game…I seem to recall that there was only one journalist who, accurately accounted the events from that day, Gerry McNee!

     

     

    McNee’s account of the events was, as ferocious against the huns as Simmie’s tackle was!

     

     

    Gerry McNee Hunskelper Extraordinaire CSC.

  16. The Guardian

     

     

     

    Football League clubs vote to back controversial overhaul of academies

     

     

    • Clubs support elite player performance plan

     

     

    • System means changes to compensation formula

     

     

    Representatives of the 72 Football League clubs have voted to back a controversial overhaul of the player academy system that will make it easier for Premier League clubs to recruit young talent from smaller teams.

     

     

    The vote was passed by 46 to 22, with three no-shows and one abstention. Had clubs rejected the plan, the Premier League would have withheld their funding for youth development – which is currently more than £5m per season.

     

     

    The elite player performance plan will now replace the current tribunal system, which assesses player valuations based on evidence from each club. The new system will mean a selling club is paid £3,000 per year for every year of a player’s development between the ages of nine and 11. The fee per year from 12 to 16 will range between £12,500 and £40,000.

     

    Top clubs will also be exempted from the current rules preventing them from signing under-16s who live more than 90 minutes’ travelling distance away (or an hour for under-12s), allowing them to scout and sign players from anywhere in the country.

     

     

    Speaking before the vote, the Peterborough director Barry Fry warned the system could mean the closure of Football League youth academies.

     

    Fry told the BBC: “What frightens me is that a lot of clubs will pull out of having a youth system altogether. Lower league clubs will look at how much it costs to run their academy or school of excellence and think that, if the Premier League can nick their best players for a low price, what is the point of investing in it?

     

    “The Premier League wants everything and they want it for nothing. Football League clubs will moan about this at the meeting but vote for it because they have no choice.”

  17. hen1rik says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:58

     

     

    True m8 but remember our support are powerful and will defo play a part if the huns think they can spend and cheat to titles and get off scot free.

     

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    They’ve already clocked-up 3 so far!

  18. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:58

     

     

    Picked you up correct mate. I was just ranting. Haha

     

     

    I’m sure it was Snelders. I think it contributed to his bottle crashing in big games. Michael Watt got blootered 3 times by Hately in 5 minutes at Ibrox when they won the league. 1991 I think.

     

     

    LB

  19. kitalba says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:47

     

     

    agree. The EPL clubs will become the Wallmart and Tesco’s of youth development, playing the numbers game.

     

     

    For our part we need to be seen as ‘the’ place to go for young players to realise their full potential, certainly in Scotland. I was really disappointed in the way things worked out for Charlie Grant and Simon Ferry as I thought we had something with those boys. I do hope that the likes of Paul George and Tony Watt get the chance as this will engender that reaching the first team is realisable.

  20. I still wouldn’t count my chickens on the huns going into administration as, we are run by a board of ‘nodding-dogs’ and, if it comes to the final nail in the coffin scenario then, I think the Celtic PLC/Balance-Sheet brigade will save the huns!

     

     

    At last someone else who thinks the same way as i do, the absent landlord and his sidekicks has been saving their pennies to do just that!!

  21. LiviBhoy says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 12:02

     

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    I remember a game at ipox when, young Brian O’Neil was on the recieving end of, 3 Hately elbows on the nose in the 1st half in front of the Broomloan!

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    CELTFISH 1205

     

     

    Jerry Saddowitz at The Wyvern on 22-11-11.

     

     

    Definitely going to that one.

     

     

    Must brush up on my heckling techniques!

  23. Kevin wants the return of the ‘Jungle’ ASAP! says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 11:45

     

     

    Kevin, where have you been sir? Don’t you remember it wasn’t s tackle but a “horrendous tackle” as if the two words were one….it was stated thus in every single report or time it was mentioned.

     

     

    Can anyone else help if my minds is playing tricks or not but as I recall on the day of the incident itself it was barely mentioned on radio as other than the player looking to have taken a bad one. In those days Sportscene / Scotsport was on a Saturday night. Again it was shown and got barely a mention in post match discussion. In the Sunday rags more or less the same.

     

     

    However on the Monday morning all hell let loose and suddenly Neil Simpson was the most vile man in football and the vendetta to chase him out of the country got into full swing.

     

     

    I’m pretty sure the above was the case or is my old mind playing tricks with me.

     

     

    So even then there was clearly a Ludge meeting to set the agenda and it was, as ever, always pro-them.

  24. Who said

     

     

    “I couldn’t tell you who is in the celtic team anymore. I have taken no interest in Celtic or how they are doing since I retired from sports journalism”.

     

     

    Well?

     

     

    OK…clues

     

     

    1. It was about 2 months ago

     

    2. It was in Sharkeys

     

     

    Well done…It was Gerry McNee (note – the refernce to Sports Journalism was all his and betrays the hallucinogenic nature of bending so far backwards that you can taste your breakfast on its way out.)

     

     

    This is also the man (again I use that term loosely) who described the Celtic supporters in Seville as ‘….A stampeding herd of Wildebeeste ……..’!

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Estadio

  25. mikeyp says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 12:06

     

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    60,000 emty seats is the only way the charlatans who have, made us worse than the huns will be exorcised! IMO!

     

     

    The alternative is…4, 5, 6 iar ?

     

     

    Its up to us to stop it!

     

     

    Only us can stop it!

     

     

    “Sack The Board NOW or, we’ll pass the huns on the way down!!!” CSC

     

     

    It’s THAT serious!

  26. Estadio says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 12:10

     

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    Gerry McNee/hurting Tim….is also the man who, forewarned us through his, ass-kicking weekly column that…DD/PL were now engaged in the asset-stripping of Celtic FC!

     

     

    And do you know what….its still going on!

     

     

    Smell The Coffee CSC

  27. From Previous…

     

     

    mikeyp says:

     

    3 November, 2011 at 12:06

     

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    60,000 emty seats is the only way the charlatans who have, made us worse than the huns will be exorcised! IMO!

     

     

    The alternative is…4, 5, 6 iar ?

     

     

    Its up to us to stop it!

     

     

    Only us can stop it!

     

     

    “Sack The Board NOW or, we’ll pass the huns on the way down!!!” CSC

     

     

    It’s THAT serious!