It’s difficult not to associate Hearts’ owner, Vladimir Romanov’s outburst on their club website yesterday with the current issue over Rangers finances, which could soon see the SPL, the SFA and the media take sides between Rangers and their creditors, in particular HM Revenue and Customs.
Romanov’s rant on the demise of the Scottish game was ignorable until he dragged in the “tax authorities” for blame. As you and I know, the tax authorities don’t play favourites, they collect vat, income, corporation and other taxes in line with the law.
Hearts failed to pay player wages last month and Romanov now says, “there is no point is spending millions to watch someone else’s show”. Most of Hearts debt is owed to Romanov’s own bank but if player wages are unpaid there is a good chance HMRC will also be outstanding, explaining the “tax authorities” reference.
If a new football club playing at Ibrox is ushered into the SPL with a points tally calculated from the position of a defunct Rangers you can expect a gold-rush of clubs ready to flush their debts to the country, and history, away.
Well done to STV who yesterday revealed the actual decision making process which would be put in place to judge an application to join the league midseason or at any other time. The SPL board, by simple majority, have the decision, while the SFA need to ratify membership.
If the SPL board vote to reward bad debtors’ shares in their league what incentive would most clubs have to pay their bills? Fortunately, our history is more valuable than any amount of cash.
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Craig Whyte’s “The Thinker” pose:
http://www.childofthe1980s.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pobs-programme.jpg (thumbsup)
LiviBhoy 2 November, 2011 at 13:34
“There was a fight at training yesterday. The photo with Commons proves that it wasn’t a massive deal but was a training ground spat.
Celtic have dealt with this well.”
Chris Commons has made you look like an anti-Celtic rumour monger. Can you not put your hands up and say that the rumour was BS and you were tricked by an orc?
Paul67,
Are you painting a worse case scenario or do you genuinely believe that this is about to unfold,
the reason im asking is you are regarded of having a good ear concerning celtic and have you been
warned of whats possibly about to be incarnated?
The Honest Mistake
“It is the most critical week of our careers at Celtic”
Pretty much explains itself.
It appears a decision has been made that if we drop anymore points on Sunday a change in the management will occur. HH
The Honest cover up
“Irregardless (sic) of the exact details……”
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The exact details constitute the truth in my very humble opinion. Anyrhing else is interpretation, opinion or even propaganda. Headlines, tabloid columns, phone ins and dare I say it ‘some bloggers’ -not you- thrive and wallow in disregarding the exact details. They sow dissent, rumour and cause division by playing loosely with the facts. This suits the need for controversy and sales. This would be understandable if those were the only ends. But for some it is the division and dissent that they are after.
So ignore ‘the exact details’ if you wish. I can’t and nor do I want to.
Hail hail
Estadio
jungle1967 says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:36
Dr Jo signed some outstanding players
…and Vidar Riseth!
Someone should be sacked for sheer incompetence. Was he deliberately left out? If so, why? Or was it an oversight by someone?
THOMAS ROGNE will not be able to line up against Rennes tomorrow – because Celtic did not register him in their squad for the Europa League.
The Norwegian has been a starter in the last two games, against Hibs in the League Cup and in the SPL at the weekend, when the Hoops recorded their first shut-out in seven matches.
But after Uefa today confirmed Rogne is not included in the names Celtic registered with them before the group stage of competition kicked off last month, the 21-year-old will have to drop out of the team once again.
It means yet another enforced defensive change for Neil Lennon, who is desperate to find a settled back four.
With Moroccan full-back Badr El Kaddouri cup tied, Kelvin Wilson out long term through injury and Glenn Loovens battling to recover from a hamstring strain, it almost certainly means he will have to revert to the Daniel Majstorovic/Charlie Mulgrew combination.
RobertTressell – Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November – Wellity wellity wellity well.
If it isn’t old Bob Croker. (thumbsup)
The Honest Mistake (Sickened) says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:51
I wasn’t tricked by an orc.
Me looking stupid is of no consequence to me. The team is under achieving and they appear not to care.
A scrap was maybe required. We will see the reaction tomorrow night.
LB
ASonOfDan 2 November, 2011 at 13:52
““It is the most critical week of our careers at Celtic”
Pretty much explains itself.
It appears a decision has been made that if we drop anymore points on Sunday a change in the management will occur. HH ”
It doesn’t appear like anything of the sort. It will be the most critical until the following week and then the following week until we win the league. We knew that at the beginning of the season.
LiviBhoy 2 November, 2011 at 13:55:
So you can’t put your hands up and admit you posted anti-Celtic rumours that appear to be false?
Well I hope ole clever clogs Sir Tim Berners-Lee is proud of himself.
Thinkin’ up the ole world wide web for the good of all mankind, only for saddoes to spend all day makin’ up made up stuff about the Cellick.
The Honest Mistake
You seem to be arguing for the sake of it.
We go 15 points behind, we just carry on blindly until it is too late?
Sounds like a hun masterplan to me…
Dontbrattbakkinanger – Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.
Give a hun a computer, and he’ll spend all day hunning up the internet. (thumbsup)
LiviBhoy says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:55
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Can we call you a Hun now following your obvious rumour-mongering…? :-)
HH
Giggs
Ray Singh Carr,
I doubt we’ll have a better opportunity. That would be the selfish move and one which I basically approve of. Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s anywhere to go at the moment.
Paul,
Should we not be asking for some kind of summit? We can’t stand back and watch this unfolding. I expect there are legal angles that will limit our influence, but, our business is directly impacted by the mis-management of these clubs.
As I’ve stated, I don’t have a great deal of time for the view that we should blow up the league to teach them a lesson. Such reactions rarely have any useful place in business. We take it on the chin and do our best to ensure we get the maximum benefit from our superior position (which on the park we’ve not been great at). However, you are 100% correct to say this cannot be allowed to slip by without resistance.
As to the SFA and the SPL. These events paint them as a good deal less than pointless. Jeezo I could come up with a fixture list and spend my life ignoring poor pitches, poor referee’s and bigotry and I’m pretty sure I could get a better TV deal (!?!?)… and if football clubs wanted to pay me a fee to do so, great. What on earth are they actually doing?
We’re going to want Hearts and Rangers to survive if we want a league worthy of the name, but, the framework of our football is clearly not remotely useful.
LiviBhoy – did you find out if there is a charity website for the injured Celtic fan who fell from the Ferry?
Apologies if already posted, Have had limited time to look at the blog over the last few days.
Keen to make a donation to his family…..
HH
LiviBhoy says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:55
The Honest Mistake (Sickened) says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:51
I wasn’t tricked by an orc.
Me looking stupid is of no consequence to me. The team is under achieving and they appear not to care.
A scrap was maybe required. We will see the reaction tomorrow night.
LB
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2010 Never Again
Don’t you think in hindsight you perhaps should have kept the unfounded innuendo and unsubstantiated rumours you heard from whatever the source they came from to yourself?
ASonOfDan 2 November, 2011 at 13:59:
Arguing for the sake of it?
Nope totally sick of the rumours, misquoting and twisting of the words of Celtic staff to fulfil and anti Celtic agenda.
Aye I’m carrying out a hun masterplan.
Ledley,Mulgrew out,Ki Mark Wilson doubtful,Commons(remarkable recovery),Loovens in squad for tomorrow’s game V Rennes
Paul67,
Was this possible “domino” scenario what PL was alluding to, when he mentioned the “demise” of Scottish football.
Was out of the country at the time, so I had no follow up from the AGM.
celtic *o* lennon @ 13:30
“From previous thread:
Slan_Abhaile……..BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE says:
2 November, 2011 at 09:17
8) Losing the rag and being hyper aggressive in front of the cameras.”
Anyone referring to Lenny as “losing the rag and being hyper aggressive” is not worth paying any attention to. Either a hun or a rag-follower. His anti-Lennon rants are worthy of nothing but contempt.
!!Bada Bing!! says:
2 November, 2011 at 14:03
Ledley,Mulgrew out,Ki Mark Wilson doubtful,Commons(remarkable recovery),Loovens in squad for tomorrow’s game V Rennes
And there was me looking forward to tomorrow night as well!
For reasons I cannot begin to understand, Vidar Riseth falls into the category of “Celtic players who weren’t THAT good but who I had a real soft spot for”.
He is joined in that elite band by Sephane Mahe, Andy Payton, Graeme Sinclair, Mike Conroy, Owen Archdeacon, John Hughes and …….wait for it…….. wee Stuart Slater! Strangely, none of the ‘not THAT good’ players from recent years make the list. Maybe that’s down to the ‘dis-connect’ between modern day players and supporters.
On a more serious note, what is Commons thinking about?? Our #9 Dream top-striker could get his hair snagged in that neck brace and be out for months. Where would the goals come from then, eh Kris??
!!Bada Bing!! says:
2 November, 2011 at 14:03
Joe and Charlie oot? Pourquoi? Not injured, Shirley?
BontyBhoy says:
2 November, 2011 at 14:00
Ray Singh Carr,
I have been banging on for days to my reader that if this mess is not sorted by fair and just means, then Celtic have no option but to resign, take their case to Europe, if necessary, due to unfair trading conditions and take our chances.
One thing for certain is that we can’t continue to play at a crooked table.
Hearts and Rangers go bust – 10 team SPL. Job done. Next!
HH
TLK
Bonty Bhoy:
What “superior position” is this? Listen, I’ve spent the last few days reading this from you, Auldheid and others, that we will have some kind of authority over everyone if this happens, a free hand to rebuild the game in an image more suited to us.
And I’ll tell you now, it’s absolute bull.
You tell me; after we’ve sweated blood over every single penny in recent years only to see Rangers run up debts to whip us on the field, only for them to pull a stroke like this which renders good governance absolutely moot; demonstrates clearly who the REAL power in the game here is and writes it in stone for all time; after Hearts have been allowed to do the same, and sponsors and everyone else are running for the hills because Scottish football has become a corrupt, stinking, festering joke … what “superior position” are we going to have?
We will have been royally grafted, done up for the world to see. We will have demonstrated our utter powerlessness if we were opposed or worse; we will have connived in a fraud.
Moral high ground? Superior negotitating stance? Don’t make me laugh.
If this happens we will have less than nothing. We will be a laughing stock, in a league which is seen around Europe as bent.
Kayal33 at 13:55
Someone should be sacked for sheer incompetence. Was he deliberately left out? If so, why? Or was it an oversight by someone?
More likely, he was left out of the squad because of the domestic players rules where they need 8 locally trained players out of the 25 man squad. We only have Charlie Mulgrew, Mark Wilson, Scott Brown, James Forrest, Paul Slane so our overall squad had to be reduced by 3 to 22. This can be supplemented by players under 21 and with us for 2 years which is why we have quite a number of underage players in the squad.
Rogne could have been included but either Majstorovic, Loovens or Wilson would probably have had to be left out and with Rogne being injured at the time the squad had to be submitted, it made sense to leave him out.
I don’t think anyone could be overly blamed for this.
Mort
!!Bada Bing!! says:
2 November, 2011 at 14:03
That is some amount of injury concerns, added to the long term absentees. Something isn’t right there, when you compare it to the Huns. The coverage of rat boy’s injury in the laptop loyal and Snyde etc just highlighted how unusual it is for one of their squad to get an injury, same with McCulloch last season. Undeniably the refs play their part in protecting the huns and letting our players be attacked, but I still think there is something not right in our fitness preparations.
Not quite bring back Brian Scott, but it used to be the case that I could tell you the name of our physio and club doctor, now I don’t have a clue.
Comma abuse is very useful. It is a fool proof indicator of Severe Intelligence Deficit Disorder.
HH
TLK
Kayal33-I think Hooper,Stokes will be kept for Sunday,Samaras up front with Paddy supporting might be the way to go on this one.
RobertTressell – Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November –
I apologise, you are clearly punch-drunk from the last time I taught you a damn good lesson in economics and the facts of life. (thumbsup)
2010 Never Again
Hello Hello……………Here we go again.
Who said this?………….“We’re going to want Hearts and Rangers to survive if we want a league worthy of the name, but, the framework of our football is clearly not remotely useful”
<b?Hearts….. Rangers……to survive, if we want a league worthy of the name……….all in the same sentence.
The man with the transparent agenda is still with us I see <:-))
celt for life says:
2 November, 2011 at 14:06
He was in original UEFA squad but has obviously been taken out to accomodate someone else. Why would you put Dan and Loovens ahead of Rogne, especially given Loovens injury record. I thought he still qualified through under21 rule, but obviously not.
Sacking is a bit of an overreaction but totally p’d off with the way the club is being run (badly). An explanation from the club would be nice.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2012/clubs/club=50050/squad/index.html
Hopefully ET is wrong but they do say they’ve checked with UEFA and he’s ineligible.
Afternoon All.
It’s been a good while since I last posted on here, been a hectic few weeks with work. It’s also been frightening watching our demise and it’s hard even thinking about it, never mind discussing it with fellow disgruntled friends and fans! Just a quickie, it’s my good friends birthday the weekend of the Inverness game up in Inverness and I thought it’d be an idea to get him and myself tickets for the game for his gift. Would anyone either have any spare or know of anyone who may have some. Two is all I need. Would be much much appreciated if someone got back to me on this.
Hail Hail
Southside Maestro.
Estadio says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:52
Since you don’t know the “exact details” then why do assume innocence on the part of Brown/McCann and culpability on the part of Jansen? The story of Jansen being asked to contribute to a financail plan isn’t entirely important in my opinion. I reckon that by this stage the working relationship with Jansen and Brown was unworkable and Jansen had decided he was leaving for this reason after the St Johnstone game in any case. That’s probably why he refused to participate. Ask any ex player from this era for their input. Brown was suggesting alternative players when Jansen was submitting his transfer targets. This is a fact. Read Paul Lambert’s book.
It isn’t “fantasy” for people to put their views across. Unless you have personally witnessed every event and every conversation you comment on then you too are interpreting and opning when you comment here. It’s what people do. There is an awful lot of paranoia on here that every second poster is a propaganda driven PR specialist working on behalf of Rangers/Media House. Chill out. There are different opinions and conflicting contributions to this site. That’s what makes it interesting.
Kayal33 says:
2 November, 2011 at 13:55
Regarding Rogne. I thought those 21 and under did not need to be registered for EUFA competitions?
footballmanagerisbetterthanreallife.csc
HH
TLK