Yesterday evening STV revealed the real outcome of last week’s meeting between Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and David Longmuir as a proverbial gun was put to the head of Scottish Football League clubs.
In short, SPL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, no doubt with the support of some clubs but without the prior knowledge or support of Celtic, has threatened to kick 20 SFL clubs out of the senior game unless they acquiesce to his demand to parachute Sevco into the First Division.
The proposal was presented by SFL chief executive, David Longmuir, and appears to carry his endorsement.
Five scenarios are portrayed:
‘Rangers’ remaining in the SPL is dismissed as SPL clubs have confirmed they will vote no.
‘Rangers’ going to the third division is objected to on two grounds, financial (which is laboured a bit) and – wait for it – “The sporting opportunity is quashed for other clubs”.
Ponder that one for a moment, “The sporting opportunity is quashed for other clubs”.
‘Rangers’ to the First Division is presented as being “financially possible to recover from this scenario”.
‘Rangers’ to SPL2 is dismissed as apparently this would create “a bigger divide” than moving ‘Rangers’ to the First Division but not changing the name of the league. It is also noted that a legal challenge could bring paralysis.
Finally, they discuss ‘Rangers’ terminated or suspended, which apparently would lead to “complete financial meltdown”.
Then come the inducements to co-opt ‘Rangers’ into the First Division…. cash, your cash. Lots and lots of your cash, an “immediate cash benefit for all 30 clubs!” The exclamation mark is theirs!!
We could spend all day dissecting this disgraceful document but I’d like to focus on one immediate element:
‘Rangers’ terminated or suspended – complete financial meltdown.
So how do the SFA, SFL and the SPL rogues who participated in this shambles propose to ensure the SFA Independent Judicial Panel does not suspend ‘Rangers’ for subverting our game for over a decade for fielding illegally registered players for that period?
In short, it cannot. The independent judicial process will itself need to be subverted. As I suggested a few days ago, the judges will be told they are no longer wanted, we are back with the hand-selected SFA committee men.
The three most senior executives running our game have told you that one errant club is so powerful it cannot be subject to the rules and must not face the punishments which are due.
I’m not going to dispute the validity of this view (just now), but surely we deserve some honesty? If the Scottish Football Association and Scottish Premier League has accepted the ‘game’ is over, let’s hear from them. Where is the leadership from the SFA president on the collapse of the game under his watch? What are the chief executives saying to their paying customers?
Our sport cannot be subverted below radar.
You have been cheated and the rules will be changed to ensure there are no consequences. This is no longer a sport, it is a financial accommodation where a few executives are threatening to expel 20 clubs, most of whom have over a century history in the senior game, to allow Sevco to start two divisions higher than they otherwise would.
Celtic can have nothing to do with this.
The game here is dead. The leagues are set to collapse, most likely, no matter what happens now.
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I cancelled Sky/ESPN –
Philbhoy
Miki67
Oglach
ASonofDan
Musters
eirecamper
jungle jam67
pedrocaravachio67
brimmer
AJ CFC
Len Brennan
Garngad to Croy
Bada Bin
Reilly1926
If Celtic F.C. abandons the corruption that is Scottish football,then I am prepared to contribute towards its upkeep until we find a competitive league to play in. So would thousands if others,even if we live far away and can rarely visit Parkhead . We have to retain integrity in the midst of this incredible omnishambles.
Leave the ‘soccertainment’ to the zombies and they can just keep on playing with themselves.
The SFA has become the laughing stock of the footballing world,and even though that takes some doing,they’ve managed it.
Orange Clowns. Leave them to their twisted circus.
French club LeHavre are still advertising a match against Sevco Greens for the12th July to inaugurate their new stadium. 23000 of the 25000 tickets have been sold.
Should be interesting to see how that develops…
I like many others am astounded by the proposal sent to the SFL clubs accompanied by a threat. A threat from the SPL to form SPL2 if they don’t get their way. Since the entire proposal requires a majority of SFL clubs to vote for it and an 8-4 majority of SPL clubs, then surely it is an empty threat. If an SFL club votes no to Rangers in SFL1 then would they join an SPL2 presumably with Rangers in it? Otherwise why would they vote no? What kind of league would it be? Would it be the strongest clubs? Not if the majority of Div 1 already say no to rangers in their division. Similarly with SPL clubs, surely their ‘No’ meant Rangers to Div 3, so why would they now vote them to the second tier?
Also the authors of this proposal have shown their hand as if they carried out there threat then they care nothing for all these benefits that are supposed to be for the good of the game as a whole or for the benefit of the lower divisions. Also with an SPL 2 where would that leave the other clubs? This shows their only concern is saving Rangers and their own self importance in a commercial league (as they see it).
Also how embarrassing if they get their way only for rangers to go into administration, be unable to field a team, unable to fulfil the requirements to join the SFA or be suspended from the SFA by the appellate tribunal (if it ever sits).
With so much uncertainty over Rangers they should be nowhere near the top flight. And we are all agreed on the morality of where they should be.
Also.
What is the mechanism for Rangers to the 1st division. Surely any space should be filled by promotion from the 2nd. Is it relegation? For what purpose? They were docked 10 points for administration and the disrepute charge must be decided by the appellate tribunal never mind the fact that this is NEW Rangers. Where and for what purpose are they coming from?
lazydynamite on 29 June, 2012 at 13:48 said:
yes sorry guys but i have re signed we sky…i just recieved a call offering me half price for every channel [inclu all movies/sport/disney] for £26 a month for 12 months.!! because i have been a loyal customer!
much though i wanted to make my point,buisness is buisness..my kids are gonna love all the extra channels and we have anytime too which is miles better with a full subscription..
thanks for the idea to cancel though,i would never have benefited like this…thumbs up
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Traitor – youz will bee hunted doon so ya will :-)
InsanebrownCSC
Lazydynamite
What is it with loyal customers and personal pronoun abuse ?
HH
Does anyone on here seriously think UEFA or FIFA will get involved ?
AJ CFC, if you’re still lurking, did you see this?
obviously I echo the sentiments on here today – if these proposals go through, I’m finished with Scottish Football until/if Celtic can play in another league.
I’d also like to express sympathy for the many decent, normal Rangers(IA) fans out there (yes yes, i know, but i do know a fair few of them, all decent guys! honestly!). This proposal basically shafts THEM again. Make them play the diddy teams, but in close-enough reach for the SPL/SFL to continue taking their hard-earned and redistribute as they see fit.
EVERYONE is being shafted here. EVERYONE. It benefits no-one that I can see, and NO-ONE i’ve spoken with about it agrees with the proposals. Utter, utter shambles, and I hope we have some sort of statement from Celtic sooner rather than later.
Never mind a war chest. The animals need a coffin.
We won’t need to worry about resigning from the SPL as they are doing a fine job dismantling the league themselves. Now the SFA through (Doncaster) has SFL (Longmuir) doing his bidding on behalf of a football club that doesn’t even exist…we should make clear that we will be fielding the development side or our U20s in both domestic competitions in future. Meanwhile the first team can enjoy more rest or enjoy a wee break in sunnier climes or perhaps a budget boosting friendly against foreign opposition.
lazydynamite on 29 June, 2012 at 13:48 said:
yes sorry guys but i have re signed we sky…i just recieved a call offering me half price for every channel [inclu all movies/sport/disney] for £26 a month for 12 months.!! because i have been a loyal customer!
much though i wanted to make my point,buisness is buisness..my kids are gonna love all the extra channels and we have anytime too which is miles better with a full subscription..
thanks for the idea to cancel though,i would never have benefited like this…thumbs up
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Much as I admire your honesty I wish you had kept that to yourself.
lazydynamite on 29 June, 2012 at 13:48 said:
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Hun lurkin’ bam…..get tae.
Hen1rik
Have the Jelavic, Goian, Bocanegra, Wallace, Celik transfer fees been paid in full yet ?
HH
I smell a rat
Anyone else walked away from the dead huns today?
Edu apparently. SSN claim he has said that he ‘wants to play at the highest level possible’. Given that Zombie FC ain’t playing anywhere soon he’s offski.
Bocanegra, Goian (and another?) are supposed to be back on 9 July but as a betting man it’s longs odds that they all turn up at the Moses McNeil Mausoleum.
Novena to Brother Walfrid
Blessed Brother Walfrid,
Father and brother
to the poor, the starving and the desolate.
You were the faithful shepherd
to the displaced Irish immigrants,
where you welcomed them into
your heart and restored their faith and culture
with the love of Our Lord and of his mother,
the Virgin Mary.
Forever be in our prayers
and our thoughts as our guardian
and as our guiding light.
Give us your faith,
that we may see the victories of might.
Give us your hope
that we may stand secure,
Give us your love of labor
that calls us for honest work.
Give us your love of poverty
so that we live contented.
Give us your courage
so that we may be strong.
We say this through Christ, Our Lord.
Amen.
yes sorry oglach!
i just couldnt resist!…..perhaps i am more for my family these days than celtic….and perhaps thats not a bad thing.
i actually only went to two games last year..i find the trip from whitby north yorkshire a bit of a bind in one day..however i have started staying at that ‘jurys inn ‘ in glasgow and travelling back the next day…always ask for a front facing room with plent of height…you get a superb view of the youth hotel over the road!!!!!..better than telly!
Don’t have Sky, but went to the newsagents there, picked up The Times, went to checkout, then put it back down before paying.
Take THAT NewsCorp! :-)
Henr1k-I never thought UEFA etc would get involved,and let the SFA sort out a “Scottish” issue,but there must be set down criteria for governance of all leagues,i would have thought.These cheating clowns are making new rules up daily,for the benefit of 1 team.The 1 team which they have now admitted that they can’t expel,i.e a breakdown of the rules.HH.
Chuckle Green open to entering Division One…!?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18641075
As a wee distraction form all the Tesco FC and double deals to keep them afloat here’s the latest offering of the list.
Players in:
———–
Name Age Position Club Price
—- — ——– —- —–
Players out:
———–=
Name Club Price
—- —- —–
Majstorovic – AIK – Free
Brozek – Trabzonspor – Loan deal ended
Wilson(M) – No new club – Free
Loovens – No new club – Free
Cervi – No new club – Free
McGinn – No new club – Free
Towell – No new club – Free
Juarez – Club America – Undisclosed fee
O’Dea – No new club – Free
Cha – Fortuna Dusseldorf – Free
Rumoured transfer in:
———————
Keepers
——-
Name Age Club Source Price
—- — —- —— —–
Forster – 24 – Newcastle – Various £2M – agreed fee with Newcastle
Gordon – 28 – Sunderland – Various – Free in the summer
Mucha – 29 – Everton – CQN – £1.3M
Smithies – 21 – Huddersfield – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Forde – 32 – Millwall – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Green – 32 – wHU – various – No fee mentioned
Jaaskelainen – 37 – Bolton – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Sifakis – 27 – Aris – Various – Free in the summer
Robinson – 32 – Blackburn – Various – Season long loan
Isaksson – 30 – PSV Eindhoven – Daily Express – Free in the summer
Defenders
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Name Age Club Source Price
—- — —- —— —–
Mills – 25 – Leicester City – Various – Season long loan
Shackell – 28 – Derby County – Various – £1.25M
Choto – 31 – Legia Warsaw – CQN – No fee mentioned
Dixon – 25 – Dundee Utd – Various – Free in the summer
Berra – 27 – Wolves – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Faye – 34 – West Ham – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Bouba Diop – 32 – West Ham – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Bosingwa – 29 – Chelsea – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Antonini – 29 – Milan – Italian press – No fee mentioned
Rose – 21 – Spurs – Celticrumours – Season long loan
Bjarsmyr – 26 – Herald – No fee mentioned
Okuonghae – 26 – Colchester Utd – SSN – Free in the summer
Wawrzyniak – 28 – Legia Warsaw – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Holmes – 23 – Tranmere Rovers – Daily Retard – No fee mentioned
Botia – 23 – Sporting Gijon – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Ciani – 28 – Bordeaux – L equipe – £1-2M
Midfielders
———–
Name Age Club Source Price
—- — —- —— —–
Henriksen – 19 – Rosenborg – Various – £3M
Krejcí – 19 – Sparta Prague – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Reo-Coker – 28 – Bolton – Celticrumours – Free due to relegation clause
Melikson – 27 – Wisla Krakow – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
White – 20 – Leeds Utd – Various – Free in the summer
Rodriguez – 22 – Barnsley – Various – No fee mentioned
Keegan – 20 – Monaghan Utd – Various – £300K
James – 17 – Hartlepool Utd – SSN – No fee mentioned
Badelj – 23 – Dinamo Zagreb – Celticrumours – £2M
Boesso – 26 – GFCO Ajaccio – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Andrews – 31 – WBA – Various – Free in the summer
Nagbe – 21 – Portland Timbers – ESPN – No fee mentioned
Montero – 22 – Villareal – Daily Rectum – £2.5-£3M
Stilic – 24 – Lech Pozan – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Roshi – 21 – Cologne – Daily Mirror – £1M
Johansen – 21 – Tromso – ESPN – £750K
Phillips – 21 – Blackpool – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Strikers
——–
Name Age Club Source Price
—- — —- —— —–
Tamuz – 24 – Hapoel Tel Aviv – CQN – No fee mentioned
Rhodes – 22 – Huddersfield – Daily Mail – £4-5M
Kermorgant – 30 – Charlton – Daily Mail – £650K
Yakubu – 29 – Blackburn – Daily Mail – Free due to relegation clause
Daly – 29 – Dundee Utd – Celticrumours – £650K
Russell – 22 – Dundee Utd – Celticrumours – £850K
Klasnic – 32 – Bolton – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Rodallega – 26 – Wigan – vVrious – Free in the summer
Bothroyd – 30 – QPR – Celticrumours – £1.5M or loan
Holt – 31 – Norwich City – CQN – No fee mentioned
Johnston – 31 – Fulham – Various – No fee mentioned
Leitch-Smith – 22 – Crewe – Various – £1M
Cox – 25 – WBA – Various – No fee mentioned
Carew – 32 – West Ham – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Sagbo – 23 – Evian – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Akpala – 25 – Brugge – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Sigurdarson – 21 – Lillestrom – The Sun – No fee mentioned
charbonnier – 23 – Angers SCO – Talksport – £800K
wesley – 33 – Atlético Mineiro – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Perbet – 27 – RAEC Bergen Mons – Talksport – £1.5M
Rosenberg – 29 – Werder Bremen – Daily Express – Free in the summer
El Allagui – 27 – Falkirk – Celticrumours – Free in the summer
Janko – 28 – Porto – Celticrumours – £3M
Best – 25 – Newcastle – Irish press – No fee mentioned
Guidetti – 20 – Man City – Talksport – Season long loan
Boesso – 26 – GFCO Ajaccio – French press – No fee mentioned
Best – 25 – Newcastle – Newcastle press – £2M
Mitroglou – 24 – Olympiacos – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
Blackstock – 26 – Notts Forrest – Various – No fee mentioned
Dobbie – 29 – Swansea – Daily Rectum – No fee mentioned
Malki – 28 – Roda JC – Daily Express – No fee mentioned
Rumoured transfer out:
———————-
Name Source Price
—- —— —–
Murphy – EADT24 – £300K to Ipswich
Izaguirre – Various – £10M to Man Utd or Everton
Samaras – The Sun – £3M to Spain
Hooper – Various – £7M+ to Reading, Galatasaray or QPR
Ki – Various – £8.5M to Rubin Kazan, Bayer Leverkusen or Werder Bremen
Wilson – Various – Leicester City player swap plus cash for Matt Mills
Forrest – Talksport – £5M to Spurs
McCourt – Daily Express – £500K to Blackpool
Wanyama – Various – £8M+ to Newcastle or Liverpool
As always if you’ve heard any other single fish please let me know.
HH
/Bishop B
sixtaeseven: No NewClub in SPL and it’s Non-Negotiable! on 29 June, 2012 at 13:59 said:
Very good :)
Fair point Awe Naw, just seems a wee bit hypocritical to be advertising ESPN via the subscription link on the one hand whilst encouraging we cancel with the other.
RobertTressell
You may be correct, I’m not saying there was contrition but there was acceptance of wrongdoing.
Gordon_j/Bloke109
Edu isn’t due back until Monday but he has stated that he wishes to play football at the highest level. So that’ll be another walker.
Is lazydynamite an interactive SKY plant to win back business? – either way, it just goes to show that punter power works.
Cancel now!!!
Poll re what should happen to NewCo on the Scotsman website.
Currently 16,000 odd votes for Div 3.
Thought it might be worth a click:
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/sfl-division-three/the-rumour-mill-friday-s-football-news-and-gossip-1-2383691?optionValueBeforeVoting=16463&pollId=poll_7_36419&pollIdpoll_7_36419QuestionId0=3&vote=true&pollIdpoll_7_36419=0&cookieSet=true
Is it possible that the beggers are returning to CQN since Bomber”insane in the membrane” Brown has stepped in to save thum!!
Naw shirley no
hamiltontim,
So there will be a queue of top Champiuons League teams waiting for Edu will there? Can’t see it myself!
I wish to apologize for losing the plot completely. I’m gonna take a REAL break and not post for a while.
The rankers saga is turning me into el demento.
Peace upon a hillside is what I need. Some clean air away from the orange stench.
KTF.
Moon bhoys
Seems fair enough to me.
ESPN choose to advertise here
Some CQNers have cancelled.
All the LOYAL CQN SKY cancellation can expect a 50% discount.
Whats not to like …
Defintely strengthens Celtic TV negotiations.
HH
Gordon_j
I think he meant he was going to sign for Morton or the like :-)
Were we set up by HMRC?
With the news that reagan may well have known that whyte was witholding tax is it not reasonable to assume that HMRC knew the same … especially as whyte seems to be well known to them.
A thread on Rankers media
Comedy gold
lionroars67 on 29 June, 2012 at 14:06 said:
Hmm, What’s missing is the motive.
Cancel sky?
I dont know if my wee ghirl will ever forgive me if she cant watch cartoon network!
“How many rounds did you fire?”
“22 Sir”
“How could you fire 22 rounds, that is more than we issued you with?”
Silence.
Silence.
Silence.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I can see a higher rate of the dodgy boxes back in play lol.