The biggest issue was the lack of desire / hunger / intelligence on the park.
No leadership from any quarter — just 400 yard stares everywhere.
Horrible to watch.
dessybhoy on
It will be very interesting if St Mirren get away with all the physical stuff against any other team in this league , I mean Main an utter dumpling of the highest level and our Centre Halfs couldnt handle him, the second goal is offside as well as a push, but Celtic were dreadful , I hope Ange knows why, because this is the template to beat us.
celtic40me on
Bad day for Ange. Disappointing how easy it was for St Mirren when they did nothing special.
Still top after losing our unbeaten record.
lionroars67 on
Conditions for a perfect storm today
Away fixture after a punishing away C/L fixture
An opposition with a compliant referee who chased harassed fouled us for 90 minutes, stuck to a game plan with fire and energy
Angeball. has weaknesses, they were exposed today, the midfield that started the game was disastrous, no tempo, no creativity, no heart, no desire, Abada and Maeda like space to attack, quality balls over the top from midfield to attack, we had zero chances then suckered punch at end of the first half, losing the second early no surprise the foul wasn’t called, Dom Robertson seized his chance, it was a long way back from there
Still top of the league, lick our wounds, rest recover we go again
BhoyfromSky on
Bada ….it was a copy of that last game except we lost 2 goals this time….no excuses Ange has failed badly today…..
TexasTim on
Buddies deserved their win.
We defended both goals hopelessly and the few shots we had were straight at their keeper.
We all expected to go into the international break 5pts in front and full of confidence. From looking down and out before Lizzie popped her clogs, the huns got a week’s rest to regroup and will get a further massive shot in the arm from this result.
I have felt uneasy with how many chances our star players missed in the 2 CL games. Today we couldn’t even make the chances
kevinlasvegas on
so is it confidence or complacency for goals?
we have been powder puff all of a sudden this week.
KLV
‘GG on
Woke up 6:30 to watch. Maybe it was just a dream. Maybe if I go back to bed I’ll wake up and realize it was a dream. Nah a nightmare.
An Dún on
When we do have our very seldom bad days, we’re far too slow in making changes.
Very obvious today that our midfield wasn’t cutting it but the changes don’t come quick enough.
We react when we go a goal down and make the subs at HT.
Again though, it’s not quite happening but there’s no proactive changes – we wait till we’re two down to bring GG on.
Game is over and it’s very difficult for subs to change the around given St Mirren have something to defend.
Poor starting 11 and poor game management. The players obviously at fault as well, I mean Welsh looked like he’s never played in the SPFL today such was his clear physical weaknesses.
Hope not to see Ralston or Welsh for sometime to come. With CCV you can carry a bad defender but in his absence we payed the price today.
MadraRua on
Its quiet obvious, our normal bench is ok to close out a game, but far too pedestrian to play Ange football.
Managers mistake, doesn’t make him a bad manager, but it was a bad selection.
Don’t understand team selection we have two weeks off not good from the coach.
JIMDOM on
Poor from start to finish. Looked like they believed they could just go through the motions and our better quality would win the game. Our better quality never really turned up.
The mental fatigue of the Champions League may have played a part.
DeniaBhoy on
What the hell was Calmac’s clearance header like for the 2nd goal? He was under no pressure and put it straight to them.
vinniethedog on
Against what probably is the tallest team we’ve aged so far …we start with quite a small side ….our centre half’s were poor ..but they were fouled a lot …still think CCV and Starfelt would have stood up to it better ….midfield mix no good……Ange proving he’s human…bad choices
Ange and the boys came close to a year unbeaten in the league.
I choose not to go OTT in criticism for the loss today.
It’s still a rare occurrence
PeterLatchfordsBelly on
Put that one down to (bad) experience. Never want to see that 11 start away from home again. Could get away with at Parkhead, but not away. Every department of the team were poor, but the midfield sets the tempo. There was none. Turnbull and Mooy lucky not to be subbed in the first half. Both were rank today.
lionroars67 on
AN DÚN on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2022 2:08 PM
Jenz is not a good central defender, his positional sense concentration awareness is severly lacking when Celtic need to defend, TBH how he wasnt removed at H/T was beyond me, first goal we conceded watch Lenz he is marking no one in no mans land
DeniaBhoy on
Jenz, like Starfelt, are made to look good by having CCV beside them. Massive miss today.
DeniaBhoy on
In addition, our CL dream will not survive without CCV in defence.
dessybhoy on
Mooy decides to run when its too late, and when you listen to him you wonder if he is ever switched on. Carthorse who passes the ball back the way all the time.
We couldn’t recover from the initial poor team selection. The substitutes didn’t play badly but they didn’t really set the park alight. Credit to St M as they were incredibly well disciplined at defending and tough to cope with when attacking. Three things are worrying:
(i) Angeball was nowhere to be seen
(ii) our shooting is really poor in terms of accuracy and strength. I thought it was just the step up to CL footbal that was the issue but no, there’s been a drop in quality of finishing.
(ii) too many crosses were too near their goalie
I thought the referee had a good game.
Don’t think the strip played any part in the performance.
The Celtic metronome stopped before kick off, when AP reckoned second pick players and third kits would have kept it clicking, in downtown Paisley, not this week. Poor performances where Jenz and Welsh are not CCV and Starfelt, nor are Turnbull and Mooy, Hatate or O’Riley.
You just knew something was afoot, the bizarre colour clash where you literally couldn’t see Celtic, had set the tone with the new sale rail jerseys. On a day where if Kyogo gets a ball in the box, it would have been round midnight, Celtic were poor collectively, and it was always too late for Ange’s cavalry, none of whom laid a glove.
The sooner Carl Starfelt is fit the better, CCV’s time out is a dread in a side where today shows he was the constant at the back. A partnership that won the league neither fit is not a good look. The midfield is O’Riley McGregor and Hatate, but never with two coming from the bench.
Robertson the Rangeree was quietly dreadful he might have seen the big St Mirren bullies, Ralston impeded for the first, or the throw in to Celtic for the second, not to mention the goal’s offsideness. Delighted now, with Celtic’s early season form where the gap in a marathon was established with the first humping.
Maybe the team performance sub consciously took the pressure off the supporters this week, where even Ange looked fed up.
MOM Calum McGregor
DeniaBhoy on
Ange says team selection was on him. If he got it wrong, he got it wrong. No one played well
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At least we know we have work to do in January.
75% of our defence = second string.
Would suggest that the second string needs work.
The biggest issue was the lack of desire / hunger / intelligence on the park.
No leadership from any quarter — just 400 yard stares everywhere.
Horrible to watch.
It will be very interesting if St Mirren get away with all the physical stuff against any other team in this league , I mean Main an utter dumpling of the highest level and our Centre Halfs couldnt handle him, the second goal is offside as well as a push, but Celtic were dreadful , I hope Ange knows why, because this is the template to beat us.
Bad day for Ange. Disappointing how easy it was for St Mirren when they did nothing special.
Still top after losing our unbeaten record.
Conditions for a perfect storm today
Away fixture after a punishing away C/L fixture
An opposition with a compliant referee who chased harassed fouled us for 90 minutes, stuck to a game plan with fire and energy
Angeball. has weaknesses, they were exposed today, the midfield that started the game was disastrous, no tempo, no creativity, no heart, no desire, Abada and Maeda like space to attack, quality balls over the top from midfield to attack, we had zero chances then suckered punch at end of the first half, losing the second early no surprise the foul wasn’t called, Dom Robertson seized his chance, it was a long way back from there
Still top of the league, lick our wounds, rest recover we go again
Bada ….it was a copy of that last game except we lost 2 goals this time….no excuses Ange has failed badly today…..
Buddies deserved their win.
We defended both goals hopelessly and the few shots we had were straight at their keeper.
We were second best today and outplayed.
Onwards and upwards.
And to make matters worse CCV out for a few games .
We’ll beaten today – lots of footballing reasons, however, phsycology plays its part, lose that strip!!!
A reminder of how important it is to start well.
100% on Ange today aye.
But where was the captain on the park?
tooquiet.csc
KLV
18 shots- 4 on target – there’s our problem
We all expected to go into the international break 5pts in front and full of confidence. From looking down and out before Lizzie popped her clogs, the huns got a week’s rest to regroup and will get a further massive shot in the arm from this result.
I have felt uneasy with how many chances our star players missed in the 2 CL games. Today we couldn’t even make the chances
so is it confidence or complacency for goals?
we have been powder puff all of a sudden this week.
KLV
Woke up 6:30 to watch. Maybe it was just a dream. Maybe if I go back to bed I’ll wake up and realize it was a dream. Nah a nightmare.
When we do have our very seldom bad days, we’re far too slow in making changes.
Very obvious today that our midfield wasn’t cutting it but the changes don’t come quick enough.
We react when we go a goal down and make the subs at HT.
Again though, it’s not quite happening but there’s no proactive changes – we wait till we’re two down to bring GG on.
Game is over and it’s very difficult for subs to change the around given St Mirren have something to defend.
Poor starting 11 and poor game management. The players obviously at fault as well, I mean Welsh looked like he’s never played in the SPFL today such was his clear physical weaknesses.
Hope not to see Ralston or Welsh for sometime to come. With CCV you can carry a bad defender but in his absence we payed the price today.
Its quiet obvious, our normal bench is ok to close out a game, but far too pedestrian to play Ange football.
Managers mistake, doesn’t make him a bad manager, but it was a bad selection.
And the 4 shots on target were easy saves
Don’t understand team selection we have two weeks off not good from the coach.
Poor from start to finish. Looked like they believed they could just go through the motions and our better quality would win the game. Our better quality never really turned up.
The mental fatigue of the Champions League may have played a part.
What the hell was Calmac’s clearance header like for the 2nd goal? He was under no pressure and put it straight to them.
Against what probably is the tallest team we’ve aged so far …we start with quite a small side ….our centre half’s were poor ..but they were fouled a lot …still think CCV and Starfelt would have stood up to it better ….midfield mix no good……Ange proving he’s human…bad choices
Ange and the boys came close to a year unbeaten in the league.
I choose not to go OTT in criticism for the loss today.
It’s still a rare occurrence
Put that one down to (bad) experience. Never want to see that 11 start away from home again. Could get away with at Parkhead, but not away. Every department of the team were poor, but the midfield sets the tempo. There was none. Turnbull and Mooy lucky not to be subbed in the first half. Both were rank today.
AN DÚN on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2022 2:08 PM
Jenz is not a good central defender, his positional sense concentration awareness is severly lacking when Celtic need to defend, TBH how he wasnt removed at H/T was beyond me, first goal we conceded watch Lenz he is marking no one in no mans land
Jenz, like Starfelt, are made to look good by having CCV beside them. Massive miss today.
In addition, our CL dream will not survive without CCV in defence.
Mooy decides to run when its too late, and when you listen to him you wonder if he is ever switched on. Carthorse who passes the ball back the way all the time.
Defensively the 2 goals we lost..
Public park stuff..
The break and we go again.
HH.
We couldn’t recover from the initial poor team selection. The substitutes didn’t play badly but they didn’t really set the park alight. Credit to St M as they were incredibly well disciplined at defending and tough to cope with when attacking. Three things are worrying:
(i) Angeball was nowhere to be seen
(ii) our shooting is really poor in terms of accuracy and strength. I thought it was just the step up to CL footbal that was the issue but no, there’s been a drop in quality of finishing.
(ii) too many crosses were too near their goalie
I thought the referee had a good game.
Don’t think the strip played any part in the performance.
A downbeat Ange refuses to throw anybody under a bus
CCV out for 4 or 5 weeks?.
Please no…
It was a very good year, for wins for Celts.
The Celtic metronome stopped before kick off, when AP reckoned second pick players and third kits would have kept it clicking, in downtown Paisley, not this week. Poor performances where Jenz and Welsh are not CCV and Starfelt, nor are Turnbull and Mooy, Hatate or O’Riley.
You just knew something was afoot, the bizarre colour clash where you literally couldn’t see Celtic, had set the tone with the new sale rail jerseys. On a day where if Kyogo gets a ball in the box, it would have been round midnight, Celtic were poor collectively, and it was always too late for Ange’s cavalry, none of whom laid a glove.
The sooner Carl Starfelt is fit the better, CCV’s time out is a dread in a side where today shows he was the constant at the back. A partnership that won the league neither fit is not a good look. The midfield is O’Riley McGregor and Hatate, but never with two coming from the bench.
Robertson the Rangeree was quietly dreadful he might have seen the big St Mirren bullies, Ralston impeded for the first, or the throw in to Celtic for the second, not to mention the goal’s offsideness. Delighted now, with Celtic’s early season form where the gap in a marathon was established with the first humping.
Maybe the team performance sub consciously took the pressure off the supporters this week, where even Ange looked fed up.
MOM Calum McGregor
Ange says team selection was on him. If he got it wrong, he got it wrong. No one played well
and refuses to rise to the bait re the fans
“Football will always remind you if you think you are getting too far ahead of yourself”. Ange.
Stan Petrov- very honest
Kris Boyd- a tit
BSR @ 2.23
Interesting choice regarding the MoM.
He played poorly and was terrible as the captain.
Apart from that he had a great game.
Not good.
There was a foul on Ralston for the first goal and the second was offside, so maybe both would be picked up by VAR. Probably grasping at straws
A reminder of what the day Job entails