Sticking it to the man, cautionary Swedish tales

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Absolutely delighted for St Johnstone, who recorded one of the finest aggregate results by a Scottish club in European football in the last 30 years.  My brother was speaking to a Saints player this week, who told him the successful strategy and drive came from chairman, Steve Brown, a fact which Hibernian would do well to ponder today.

Malmo’s 0-7 victory at Easter Road yesterday was chastening ahead of our game against fellow Swedes, Elfsborg on Wednesday.  Celtic are in a remarkably strong position now, having produced excellent on and off-field results for the first time in the modern era, but those seven goals last night (not to mention the multitudes we shipped preseason) are a cautionary tale.  It’s also worth remembering that Rangers decline into liquidation was precipitated by Champions League elimination at the hands of Swedish opposition two years ago (“Larsson has scored”).  Wednesday presents a huge challenge.

As soon as I heard the stadium announcement on Tuesday I knew there was trouble in store from Uefa.  The second pyro punishment will lead to a heavier fine.  Celtic’s statement yesterday advised of matters of concern to Glasgow City Council Safety Advisory Group, who issue stadium safety licence, regarding a whole range of issues (overcrowding, lateral movement, moshing, body surfing).  What to say about 131 broken seats?  Ouch.

The club and Green Brigade (whose members occupy only a part of section 111) have met and we carry on as normal for now.  Question is, can either control everyone in the section?  I hope so but it’s a big ask. All it takes is one off-message person keen to ‘stick it to the man’, and there’s a long season ahead.  Place your bets, folks.

Our thoughts are with Paul Lennon and the Thai Tims after the news that one of the boys who sang on the Celtic videos died in a road accident while another is critically ill.
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  1. DBBIA,

     

     

    Wouldn’t it be lovely.

     

     

    Watched a very young Audrey in a cowboy picture yesterday.

     

     

    Eternal class

  2. Hankray

     

     

    Ah dinna know a Bunch of Figs..aboot Cooking ,Pal

     

     

    But, Ah Know a Hellava Loat aboot. Eatin’!

     

     

    And a Remember, wi’ Fondness..

     

     

    Those , Big Plates of .. Totties , Champed ..and Mixed wi a Neep, fae Ma Uncle Lou’s Back Gairden..that Ma Sainted Mama used tae Serve Us.. Back in those Halcyon Days of Yoof and Innocence..

     

     

    Yep.. a Swede, my Friend.. Is a Type of Just ONE of the Several Varieties of Turnips.. who are Close Relatives of the Mustard and Cabbage Familes..

     

     

    or.. So Ah hiv Bin Told.

     

     

    of Course,Mayhap Ah hiv Bin Told , wrongly,So please forgive me if that piece of Info.. apropos to the Relationship of the Mustard n the Cabbage.. tae the Swede ..is not correct..

     

     

    Nice chatting,pally.

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still Laughin’

     

     

     

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still..Laugin

  3. Mike in Toronto on

    DBBIA

     

     

    I have been on this site for 10 years now…. started just a few months after Paul started… and rarely do I argue with posters…. last couple of days have been unhappy reading on here… and I have held my counsel

     

     

    but, anyone who would slight the lovely Ms. Hepburn (sigh!)is a scoundrel who cannot go unchallenged!

     

     

    Pistols at dawn!

     

     

    CanyoutellIwassupposedtobeofftodaybuthadtocomeintoworkbutnotreallyfeelinglikeworking?CSC

  4. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    ‘In 1956, she worked closely with Deborah Kerr to supply the star’s singing voice for the film version of Rodgers & Hammerstein’s The King and I, and the next year she again worked with Kerr to dub her voice in An Affair to Remember. In 1961’s West Side Story, the studio kept her work on the film (as the singing voice of Natalie Wood’s Maria) a secret from the actress, and Nixon also dubbed Rita Moreno’s singing in the film’s “Tonight” quintet. She asked the film’s producers for, but did not receive, any direct royalties from her work on the film, but Leonard Bernstein contractually gave her 1/2 of one percent of his personal royalties from it.

     

     

    For My Fair Lady in 1964, she again worked with the female lead of the film, Audrey Hepburn, to perform the songs of Hepburn’s character Eliza. Because of her uncredited dubbing work in these films, Time magazine called her “The Ghostess with the Mostest’.

     

     

    DBBIA/Marni Nixon CSC.

  5. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    …I have a similarly glittering palmares as Brad Bitt’s body double…

  6. mike in toronto,

     

     

    As a point of information, would that be dawn, Toronto time, or D ‘n’ G time?

     

     

    I’m sure the good doc wouldn’t want to keep you hanging around in the cold!

  7. Interesting from the comments section on Roy greenslade`s piece in The Guardian.

     

     

    The central facts of the destruction of Rangers were released by a couple of bloggers – Phil MacG was one, but the still-anonymous RangersTaxCase blog was at least as important. Also Celtic Quick News has always been helpful in providing occasional but invariably useful insights – a genuinely cool and thoughtful commentary. And the only reliable source on the legal convolutions that the old company and the new companies have writhed through and continue to coil and twist around has been Paul McConville’s blog.

     

    All these sources have one thing in common: they are not part of the mainstream media. With the occasional exception of the BBC and Alex Thomson of Channel 4, “proper” journalists have stayed well away from the dirty and complicated details of the Rangers story. And not because of Leveson, or data protection legislation, but out of fear of, or commitment to, a very heavy-hitting component of the Scottish establishment.

     

    It’s a great disappointment to me that my paper has paid such small attention to the story. David Conn should have engaged with it; you should have done more, too. For instance, among the small change of the Charlotte stuff is the revelation that Rangers were paying a retainer of £25,000 a year to a TV and press pundit who was commenting on the club almost daily in news columns and on sports pages and broadcasts. Surely worth a column?

  8. South Of Tunis

     

     

    14:49 on 26 July, 2013

     

     

    Book Club .

     

     

    Just finished this ——-

     

     

    The Etymologicon —— Mark Forsyth .

     

     

    An absolute treat . I loved it.

     

    =========================================

     

    Thanks for the tip. Had a look on amazon. Remembered seeing that in a bookshop lately and thinking that should be on my ‘to read list’.

     

     

    Gonna have me some of that……

  9. Changing @ 14:25

     

     

    Would your Mr Innes at St Mungo s be “Big Shuggie ”

     

    He was my English teacher for a couple of years at The Lingo in the mid sixties

  10. South Of Tunis on

    Mike in Toronto . @ 14 57 .

     

     

    I had great fun reading it . I also enjoyed this —–

     

     

    The Horologicon —— Mark Forsyth .

     

     

    His —The Inky Fool blog is one of my favorite blogs.

  11. Mike in Toronto on

    Thomthethim

     

     

    Good point… hadn’t thought about that! Or as my hero (Homer Simpson) would say, “D’oh!!’

     

     

    In light of that, I will agree to call off the duel if, next time, he posts a picture of Ms. Hendricks, he also post a picture of Ms. Hepburn. Fair enough?

     

     

    Heard that Sevco are doing a sort of testimonial thing for Fernando Ricksen…. found it a bit odd… didn’t they kick him out for being such a bellend (serial repeat offender, as I recall).

  12. John Fleming, Head of Referee Operations

     

    johnflemingcupSaturday the 27th July 2013 in the eyes of the football supporter denotes the 2013/2014 season kicking off with 16 Ramsden’s Cup fixtures.

     

     

    Our last official appointment of season 2012/2013 was on the 10th June – Pollock versus Ashfield – two prominent junior teams whilst the last senior appointment was on the 26th of May – the William Hill Scottish Cup Final between Hibernian and Celtic.

     

     

    So my office can breathe a sigh of relief dust themselves down and relax for a whole 15 days! Yep off we go again. The first friendly match of the season has hit the desk 26th June as Crichton take on Annan Athletic. Come this Saturday, we will have appointed no fewer than 180 friendlies. Did the season ever stop?

     

     

    Louise and Laura (Non Professional Game Appointment Officers) will have worked hard to ensure the pre-season appointment were distributed evenly and balanced amongst the officials and Steven (Professional Game Appointment Officer) will oversee any friendlies involving the SPFL Premiership clubs. Drew (Administration Manager) has also been extremely active ensuring that our seven Champions League and Europa League appointments from UEFA have been dealt with. Our elite referees have been rubbing shoulders with European teams like: FC BATE Borisov, FC Shakhter Karagandy, S Fola Esch, GNK Dinamo, AC Omonia, NK Domzale, NK Lokomotiva Zagreb, FC Dinamo Minsk, FK Austria Wien, Ekranas, FK Vojvodina, Bursaspor, FK Jagodina and Randers FC (Danish team).

     

     

    Remember we have to fit in our holiday with the family and the chances are we will bump into the players, managers, coaches, club officials and wait for it, other referees when we are in the resort – what could be better?!

     

    The first of many Sunday shifts for me and my team is this Sunday, 28th July. The day looks something like this:

     

    09.00 – Mop up fitness test (officials must pass the test before they can be appointed to any match)

     

    10.00 – Meeting with SPFL Championship, League 1 and League 2 club officials regarding pre-season guidelines

     

    10.30 – Fitness session for our top officials (two hours)

     

    13.00 – Meeting with all our top officials and observers regarding pre-season guidelines

     

     

    offside

     

    The International Football Association Board members (of which I am one) agreed to alter the text of Law 11 (offside) as the previous wording provided too much room for interpretation and was not precise enough. The new text is more in line with actual game situations and will eliminate the confusion regarding what is meant by rebound, deflection and when the ball has been deliberately saved.

     

     

    Log onto the referee section of the Scottish FA website and familiarise yourself with the new wording and interpretation and be the person who turns to the spectator at your side and say “I know why the match official gave that decision”. I’m not sure how long the person will be beside you though!

     

     

    I know why the MIB match official gave that decision…………….

  13. Morrissey the 23rd on

    Bonfire of Vanity. – Some Fans Don’t Get It.

     

     

    By @LWordsmith

     

     

    Seems Phil Mac’s recent article on the crackers bringing yet more bother to Celtic football club has lit more than a few short fuses. The support as usual appear split into two camps, the mild mannered support with common sense or the middle fingered retort of angry rebellion.

     

     

    A true Bonfire of vanity.

     

     

    Most of the comments directed toward Mr.Mac it appeared to me, were rather more based on personal dislike for whatever reason those may be, for the mans character was repeatedly called into question rather than the very real issues to which he pointed, namely health & safety, rule & regulation and any punishment to be meted out in the form of a fine, potentially even worse, and the attacks on the man in my own opinion were disgraceful and not becoming of any Celtic supporter I have ever recognised.

     

     

    For the life of me I cannot understand what the issue is for that dislike.

     

     

    Fines and punishments I may add, whether some as Celtic fans like it or not, that affect all Celtic supporters.

     

    Yes, everyone that contributes to the club, in whatever way, is in effect paying for every wrong, unfair though that may seem to the supporter who prefers to save his firework display for the eagerly anticipated ’bonny night’ spectacular but once a year.

     

     

    I can hear the boo’s and whistle’s and jeers already..

     

     

    ‘But it’s only a wee firework, a wee bit a smoke, a cracker, a bit a high jinx, it’s no as bad as this or that, wind yer neck in, mind yer own and do one ya panty wetting prawn taking company man, yada yada yada !.

     

     

    Well there’s a question, if it’s only any of these wee things, then why the big deal about giving them up ?

     

     

    Kin yay no just be a bloody supporter without a dookit to be papped in, or a nasty tag hung aroon yer neck sayin ‘ yer talkin pish sittin in yer suit seat pal ‘ ?

     

     

    Oh but the over exuberance of youth !.

     

     

    You know I can still remember back in the day when the fed up onlookers would come to the fore as neighbours shouted out, ‘Be sensible with those Roman candles’ but still the complainers didn’t mind enjoying the odd tin foil wrapped, baked tattie, fresh from the embers at base of smouldering fire.

     

     

    It seems to me Celtic supporters are getting sick of the vast amounts of material to throw at the Sevconian and has now bored them shitless enough to torment each other, so much so, that through sheer boredom can turn on each other over the slightest issue easily resolved yet still managing to manifest into a titanic struggle.

     

     

    On the scale of things yes, it is only a firecracker or banger, yes it might only be a wee flare or two, yes it might only be some smoke that intersperses and disappears in a few seconds but, If you wouldn’t do it anywhere else other than of a bonfire night, then should you be doing it at a football ground at all, especially if your over the age of puberty ?.

     

     

    Besides I have yet to see comment or be convinced of any positive that comes from these devices, one can’t see the game for the smoke and the ears ring for ever from the explosions, not to mention of course the other possible hazards which could be far more concerning.

     

     

    There are undoubted issues of safety, and for anyone to be lambasted or heckled or treated so badly for highlighting them, is quite frankly shameful.

     

    We all have our opinions and should be allowed them, but most importantly of all, the club itself is saying NO !.

     

     

    The gloves have definitely come off at Celtic park, requests to respect the conditional membership of the club and an adherence to their rules and legal requirements, are being repeatedly ignored. You might note here I have not implicated any section of the crowd for it could happen anywhere and no doubt has before, but I am sure the crowd as a whole should be more concerned/vigilant over conduct within the ground that could at the end of the day damage the club, the support and our long standing good name in general.

     

     

    You see, Celtic park isn’t the Glasgow Green on the 5th of November on a supervised safely managed firework display, it’s a family orientated arena for sport.

     

     

    Toilets are available and seldom do the visitors to it, actually wet their pants and I’m guessing here, but many probably enjoy a wee prawn curry now and again as well. These comments are simply examples to provide the stark difference in attitudes across the support as is often stated by rebellious nature.

     

     

    Ironic isn’t it that it’s all part of the same crowd that hail from the same dream and who wish for the same future when all the gobbledygook and hoo hah is wiped away.

     

     

    ‘None are really different fae the rest mate’.

     

     

    We all celebrate Celtic past and present, we all contribute large or small, we all have a say.

     

     

    Really it is time to quit the them and us mentality, the do and don’t differences and truly sit down and sing from the same hymn sheet.

     

     

    The club rules and legal boundaries will stand like them or not, they always have regardless of stamping feet, bleating voice or temper tantrum.

     

     

    The older campaigners quieter in their style have seen it all before it’s nothing new, and the younger generations have to realise that one day they will also be that older campaigner, if of course he accepts there is a code of behavior that is synonymous with being Celtic and embraces it.

     

     

    Respect is earned and has been over many years, it will not be allowed to be eroded especially over the debate of common sense versus rebellion.

     

     

    Keep the passionate Celtic fire burning but ditch the fanning flames of difference, chuck those squibs onto the bonfire of vanity.

  14. canamalar1

     

    15:09 on 26 July, 2013

     

     

    Your ability to put words into other peoples mouths and therefore assume what other folk think is astonishingly poor.

     

     

    If section 111 is being overcrowded then the club need to decant the interlopers back to their purchased seat

  15. Greendreamz

     

     

    Exactly, pal..Ah agree..

     

     

    Time fur Punishing those .. Recalcitrant Yoofs.

     

     

    No One.. ( except,mebbe..Kojo…ed)( Thank you, M’Bhoy.. You are an excellent Bhoy..you Will go far) or A solitary.. Group of Supporters,who are purporting themselves,ostensibly.. as Being an Enthusiastic Celtic Supporters Organization.. but are Mair of a Quasi Political Wan.. are

     

    Indispensable!

     

     

    It is time that The G.B. put thur Hoose in Order..

     

     

    Fur thur Hoose is Becoming a Disgrace tae the Street wur they Live..

     

     

    If the G.B. Dinna.. then..Some Nosey Neighbours..

     

     

    Wull Send fur the Sanitation Dept…

     

     

    Fur they ur spreading a Pestilence.. which is ,sadly.. Affecting, the Good Parts of the

     

    Neighbourhood..

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still, Laughin

  16. Mike in Toronto on

    SoT

     

     

    Thanks for the nod. Always looking for interesting/fun reads.

     

     

    Two of my favourite reads of all time – Derrida’s ‘Of Grammatology’ and Terry Eagleton’s ‘Introduction to Literary Theory’….every once in a while, if the house is empty, I’ll put on the fire, and curl up with one of them, and lose myself for a few hours….

     

     

    NeedtogetalifeCSC

  17. derbyshirebhoy on

    Morrissey the 23rd

     

    15:08 on

     

    26 July, 2013

     

     

    Green Brigade Statement

     

     

    Appears to be a measured response to a delicate situation and requires I would have thought those that the GB met with and the liaison officer to clarify and respond to the points made.

  18. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Has Hooper signed for Norwich yet..?

  19. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Mike in Tronto -no slight intended on the lustrous Ms Ruston, but in Broadway terms she could not sing for toffee!

     

     

    Although I am very fond of her fragile version of ‘Moon River’.

     

     

    And I do not think it takes anything away from Audrey nor Deborah nor Natalie to give due credit to wee Marni, who was actually doing the ole singing.

  20. phil01

     

     

    Great post Mate, when we take off the emotional blinkers we see exactly where we as a club are, effectively playing in the British third division and to think that players who come to us who are not fans won’t take the chance to play in the top division is just daft.

     

     

    I don’t take Gary’s or Vic’s departure as a personal slight, they are two decent footballers and from the little I saw of them on Celtic TV being interviewed two quiet decent Bhoys, football is a short career and I can’t blame either of them from wanting to do the best they can for themselves and their families in that short timeframe, sure I wold loved to have seen them don the Hoops for another crack at the CL but it’s not to be, we move on.

     

     

    Celtic as a football club have suffered the most I believe to the gross mismanagement and cheating that has gone on in Scottish Football and as far as I am concerned Scottish Football is dead, The Huns have dragged and are happy to drag everyone and every thing down the drain, that was always their way and I see no change in Sevco.

     

     

    What do Celtic do, I no longer know but one thing for sure next Wednesday is again huge for us as Helsinki and Helsingborgs were last year and all politics and squabbling aside it quite simply is a must win game for us as our national game is in a period of huge upheaval and no chnage to the running of the game seems to be taking place except the compulsory it seems in Scotland, the rearranging of the deck chairs on the sinking ship!!!

  21. Don’t know if anyone has mentioned this but Celtic FC could go some way to easing the problems in 111 by taking stewarding operations back in-house and seek applications for stewarding from Celtic Supporters (although this does not have to be exclusive)

     

     

    We have a security team – they could appoint a layer of experienced security people to manage the stewarding to work in tandem with each other. Club crests on the high viz gear, working as partners with fans not as bully boys.

     

     

    That to me is the starting point. The rest will follow more easily. As I understand it at present heavy handed stewarding by non-celtic people is a large part of the problem. Attmepts by the current stewards to deal with problems will be perceived, rightly or wrongly, as a provocation on the GB and section 111 in general.

  22. phil01,

     

     

    Glad you cleared that up. Celtic are now officially finished competing. Accept our lot, don’t dare dream or hope for excitement because the board of directors know that not a single football player on planet earth that has played at a reasonable level will dare join Glasgow Celtic.

     

    Don’t even ask them, give up, chuck it the games over………

     

     

    HailHail

  23. Afternoon bhoys, seriously hot in the hun free mountain valley.

     

     

    So, the blog has been awash with posters commenting about the big bad GB for the past couple of days,

     

     

    The GB release a statement and virtual silence.

     

     

    Well I never ….MMMmmmmmmmm

  24. I thought the Green Brigade statement was well constructed. The Club need to appoint someone who understands the concept of customer service. This is a football club but it is 100% dependent on it’s customers, just like a retail outlet. I don’t have too much direct interaction with the club but have seen two very different levels of service from 2 bodies I have dealt with recently, the CelticTV team and the ticket office. The CelticTV team have had some challenges so far this season but every time I contact them they are immediate in their response and they work hard to make sure my issues are resolved. The ticket office, our primary customer interface, couldn’t be more different – frankly it is awful. For overseas customers, there is no number that I can dial. (Why do customers have to pay for a phone call to buy tickets?) Emails are not answered.

     

     

    We have done some excellent financial business this Summer. The biscuit tin is bulging. Let’s hire someone who can understand life from a customer perspective. We want to belong but we are kept at arms length.

  25. Mike in Toronto

     

     

    15:34 on 26 July, 2013

     

     

    SoT

     

     

    Thanks for the nod. Always looking for interesting/fun reads.

     

     

    Two of my favourite reads of all time – Derrida’s ‘Of Grammatology’ and Terry Eagleton’s ‘Introduction to Literary Theory’….every once in a while, if the house is empty, I’ll put on the fire, and curl up with one of them, and lose myself for a few hours….

     

     

    NeedtogetalifeCSC

     

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    Idea for new supporters grouping to rival the GB:

     

     

    ‘Cerebral Celts for Entertaining and Informative Literature’.

     

     

    Access to a half time library should be top of Celtic FC’s agenda for stadium improvement.

     

     

    By the way Terry Eagleton – great writer.

  26. Mike in Toronto on

    DBBIA

     

     

    Them’s fighting words …. that’s it…. fatwa is back on!

     

     

    On a slightly more serious note, I have read both statements from CFC and the GB…. I can see where both of them are coming from….

     

     

    But, for what it is worth… the Club does need to be seen to be working more with the GB …. maybe, behind the scenes, they are… but the impression that they are giving to the public (at least me) is one of tolerance of the GB, at best, and downright hostility at worst.

     

     

    For example, would it not have been better (possible?) to agree upon a joint statement after the meeting? This would have been much preferable to the dueling statements approach.

     

     

    And this is coming from someone who is not 17…. I’m pushing 50, a corporate lawyer… so, basically an old fart ….but even I think the Club needs to be seen to make efforts to work with the GB…. they really do add tremendously to CP.

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