Absolutely delighted for St Johnstone, who recorded one of the finest aggregate results by a Scottish club in European football in the last 30 years. My brother was speaking to a Saints player this week, who told him the successful strategy and drive came from chairman, Steve Brown, a fact which Hibernian would do well to ponder today.
Malmo’s 0-7 victory at Easter Road yesterday was chastening ahead of our game against fellow Swedes, Elfsborg on Wednesday. Celtic are in a remarkably strong position now, having produced excellent on and off-field results for the first time in the modern era, but those seven goals last night (not to mention the multitudes we shipped preseason) are a cautionary tale. It’s also worth remembering that Rangers decline into liquidation was precipitated by Champions League elimination at the hands of Swedish opposition two years ago (“Larsson has scored”). Wednesday presents a huge challenge.
As soon as I heard the stadium announcement on Tuesday I knew there was trouble in store from Uefa. The second pyro punishment will lead to a heavier fine. Celtic’s statement yesterday advised of matters of concern to Glasgow City Council Safety Advisory Group, who issue stadium safety licence, regarding a whole range of issues (overcrowding, lateral movement, moshing, body surfing). What to say about 131 broken seats? Ouch.
The club and Green Brigade (whose members occupy only a part of section 111) have met and we carry on as normal for now. Question is, can either control everyone in the section? I hope so but it’s a big ask. All it takes is one off-message person keen to ‘stick it to the man’, and there’s a long season ahead. Place your bets, folks.
Our thoughts are with Paul Lennon and the Thai Tims after the news that one of the boys who sang on the Celtic videos died in a road accident while another is critically ill.
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WAS THE ELFSBORG MATCH RIGGED?
Elfsborg slog Daugava med totalt 11–1. Elfsborg slog Daugava med totalt 11–1.
Elfsborgs seger i Champions League-kvalet kan ha varit uppgjord.
Motståndaren Daugava misstänks vara inblandat i en spelskandal där stora summor ska ha satsats på minst sex mål i matchen.
Boråsklubben gick från 1–0 till 7–1 – på 31 minuter.
– Skrämmande om det skulle vara så, säger Elfsborgsbacken Johan Larsson.
Mejla
Elfsborg tog sig vidare till Champions Leagues tredje kvalomgång efter sammanlagt 11–1 mot lettiska mästarna Daugava.
Nu kan Boråsklubben avancemang delvis ha berott på att letterna lagt sig.
Enligt landets sportsajter misstänker FederBet – ett schweiziskt företag som kontrollerar spelverksamhet i Europa – att Daugava medvetet ska ha släppt in sex mål i andra halvlek i lagens första möte på Borås Arena.
Sex mål på 31 minuter
Ovanligt stora summor ska ha satsats på att det skulle göras minst sex mål i matchen.
Elfsborg ledde med 1–0 i paus – och vann till slut med 7–1.
Efter sex mål på 31 minuter.
Elfsborgsspelarna vill inte gärna tro på uppgifterna och hävdar att det inte gick att urskilja några tendenser i motståndarnas spel att de medvetet skulle ha släppt in de sex målen i andra halvlek.
– Jag har svårt att tro det. De stod ändå med nio spelare runt eget straffområde, det kanske man inte gör om man vill släppa in mål, säger Andreas Klarström till Sportbladet.
– De var inte ett bra lag, helt enkelt, tillägger han.
“Har ju tilltro på människor”
Backkollegan, Johan Larsson, blir förvånad när han hör påståendet om läggmatch.
– Det är skrämmande, om det stämmer. Fotboll ska avgöras på planen, säger han.
Kändes det som att Daugava gav hundra procent?
– Alltså, man tänker ju aldrig så under spelets gång. Jag vill inte tro att de ska ha lagt sig, man har ju tilltro på människor.
Var det någon skillnad på deras spel i första jämfört med i den andra matchen?
– Nej, vi var så mycket bättre i båda. Hemma är vi starka och borta vann vi med 4–0 trots att underlaget i stort sett var ospelbart. Vi kunde ha vunnit med 7–1 där borta också.
“Det är befängt”
Daugavas klubbdirektör, Romans Lajuks:
– Jag vet inte hur jag ska kommentera dessa påståenden, det är befängt, säger han till den lettiska sportsajten diena.lv.
FederBet har även anmält tre returmatcher i Europa League till Fifa i misstanke om att de ska vara uppgjorda. Det handlar om lag från Moldavien, Albanien, Bosnien och Hercegovina, Ungern och Georgien.
RobertTressell
You can have this for free
http://archive.org/details/ragged_trousered_philantropists_th_librivox
FrankOwncsc
phil01
Excellent post. So much sense. That is the world Celtic inhabit. I wish it were different but till it is we live with reality.
Prayers and condolences to our Thai Family at this dreadful time…
TRANSLATION…..
Elfsborg against Daugava with total 11-1. Elfsborg against Daugava with total 11-1.
Elfsborg’s victory in the Champions League qualifiers may have been prearranged.
Opponent Daugava suspected of being involved in a betting scandal involving large sums of money should have been invested in at least six goals in the match.
Boras club went from 1-0 to 7-1 – in 31 minutes.
– Scary if it were true, says Elfsborg hill Johan Larsson.
Mail
Elfsborg made it to the Champions League third qualifying round after a total of 11-1 against Latvian champions Daugava.
Now Boras Club advancement partly be due to the Latvians folded.
According to the country’s sports sites suspects FederBet – a Swiss company that controls gambling in Europe – Daugava knowingly should have conceded six goals in the second half in the teams first meeting in Borås Arena.
Six goals in 31 minutes
Unusually large amounts of money should have been invested in it would be at least six goals in the match.
Elfsborg led 1-0 in the break – and won with 7-1.
After six goals in 31 minutes.
Elfsborg players do not like to think of the data and argue that it was not possible to discern any trends in the opponents’ play that they would deliberately have let in six goals in the second half.
– I have trouble believing it. They stood still with nine players around his own penalty area, it might not do if you want to let in goals, says Andreas Ready Power to Sportbladet.
– They were not a good team, simply, he adds.
“Have the confidence of people”
Back colleague, Johan Larsson, is surprised when he hears the claim läggmatch.
– It’s scary, if true. Football should be decided on the field, he says.
Did it feel like Daugava gave one hundred percent?
– So, you think never so during the game. I do not think they should have gone to bed, you’ve got faith in humans.
Was there any difference in their game in the first than in the second game?
– No, we were so much better in both. At home we are strong and away we won 4-0 even though the substrate was largely unplayable. We could have won by 7-1 over there too.
“It is absurd”
Daugava club director, Romance Lajuks:
– I do not know how to comment on these allegations, it is preposterous, he says to the Latvian port site diena.lv.
FederBet also reported three return matches in the Europa League to Fifa in the suspicion that they will be rigged. It involves teams from Moldova, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Hungary and Georgia.
Robert Tressell
Think the club and some other fans might have a problem if that group got its own section at CP … why are all those old fogies sitting together? How did they get comfy leather armchairs? And why are they allowed to smoke pipes in here?’
But, seriously, this is why CQN is my favourite site …. chat about Celtic, generally good craic, and someone (today, it was SoT) throws a point out about a book, or music or something else that I would likely never have come across otherwise …
In spite of the cattiness of the last few days…. still a generally good bunch of lads on here. We tend to forget that sometimes.
Unbreakable seats? From the same inventor of the Vandal Proof bus shelter ?
ekbhoy,
That exact point was under discussion yesterday and last night, I like you believe it’s the responsibility of the club to ensure interlopers are removed but many on here believe its the responsibility of the GB to police the area.
So now you agree that the damage might not be caused by the ticket holder (is that correct ?) irrespective of which section the damage is done are you still advocating the seat occupant should be treated as harshly as you originally advocated ? And only in the sections you consider to be high risk ?
Or have we moved on from that and it’s just down to oneupmanship ?
Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakes19m
Remember ‘Ted Smith’ and the desperation from D&P to distance?
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl17m9
Now with added audio.
https://soundcloud.com/charlotteandthefakes/tedsmith …
If embdae thinks the Club will spend money on creating a standing area………
No chance.
mncelt
By: Newsroom Staff on 10 Jul, 2013 17:02
THE views of the Celtic support are valued at the club and the appointment of John Paul Taylor as the club’s Supporter Liaison and Service Officer is part of the drive to strengthen the links between the club and our supporters.
John Paul will be the first line of communication for general supporter contact outwith these areas and in the coming months as well as meeting with all of the club´s main supporters’ groups, John Paul will also be looking to set up focus groups for various different sections within our support as we move towards giving all fans a platform to air their views and ensure we are getting it right first time in all aspects of the service we provide to our supporters
John Paul is based at Celtic Park Monday to Friday and will also be available pre-match on home matchdays, you can contact him on
Tel: 0141- 551 4209
‘For instance, among the small change of the Charlotte stuff is the revelation that Rangers were paying a retainer of £25,000 a year to a TV and press pundit who was commenting on the club almost daily in news columns and on sports pages and broadcasts. Surely worth a column?’
I take it this is Jabba? A scandal if true, regardless of who it is.
It doesn’t matter whether you’re in the green Brigade, the Old Brigade, the Fire brigade or the Sect114 Martyrs Brigade- once you get beyond a certain age you are responsible for your own actions, inside and outside Celtic Park, inside and outside football or work or the home.
The most important policeman/steward/moral gaurdian/guardianangel is the one between your own two ears.
It is called being a grown-up.
Mike in Toronto – 100% pal. Its certainly more good than bad. I’ve learned not to take any of the rows too seriously. Just guys swapping opinions and the occasional troll. No biggy……..
Thanks for the book tips.
Macanbeatha – that’s a new one on me……. LOL!
mncelt
15:41 on
26 July, 2013
I contacted overseas season ticket sales 2 weeks ago. No response. Contacted Celtic TV – reply in 1 hour. People eh?
timsrgr8
15:26 on
26 July, 2013
Changing @ 14:25
Would your Mr Innes at St Mungo s be “Big Shuggie ”
He was my English teacher for a couple of years at The Lingo in the mid sixties
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He was a science teacher as I recall when I was in Rigby Street a hundred years ago. We called him Jeff, but I’m not sure if that was his real name. You know what we were like at ‘The Mungo’ with nicknames for teachers.
Harry Redknapp did us proud – helped turn a £2m bid for a player with 18 months on his contract in to a £5.2m bid for the same player with 12 months on his contract. Nice one Harry!
if you listen to all the CHARLOTTE RECORDINGS one thing for me that stands out is whytes voice always seem to be the loudest and most audable, making me think he is closest to the mike and therefore the person doing the recording and in turn leaking all this stuff, is this what makes charlotte so fearless when threatened by the bizzies?
arranmore
‘Twas Mr Hateley
Roll Up..! Roll Up..!
It’s BIG HAPPY FRIDAY….
So It’s KOJO-TIME…..
The Best Entertainment West Of The Heathery Bar Wishaw….
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Nearly Brought Back My Croissant, When Ah Saw The Post From The Swindon Swinger….
Offering Sympathy To Macjay1…..
And Declaring That Everyone Has A Right To Post Their Own Political Views On The Blog….!
Without Receiving Scurrilous Abuse From The Un-Enlightened Trolls….
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How Come No-one Has Mentioned Thomas Hirzlsperger In This Transfer Window…?
Still….Laughin’
The boy doyle at wolves,sorry lennon not for me.he and others couldnt for the life of them help wolves avoid relagation,so if thats the type of player that lennon is hoping to sign,well im afraid which i suspected a while back ,that lennon in his judgement on certain players is not very good,and good luck to hooper,and wanyama..
Robert Tressell
If you like the Derrida stuff (it can be a bit esoteric/dry for most), there was a movie about him/his work made about 10 years ago … a good little introduction to him and his work … if interested, get my email from Paul67 …. I would be happy to burn you a copy and put it in the post.
I think Derrida and Chomsky are the two most important thinkers of our time….
dbbia,
Agreed and was never contested by me, my contention is there are clear and defined responsibilities main point being crowd control is the remit of stewards and police, not the GB.
If the section is being overrun by inert loppers then those responsible have failed in their responsibilities and dragging the GB into it does not excuse their failure.
And interlopers too
Masty
I had similar thoughts. There is one particular recording whereby craigy bhoy can be heard in the lift, and if I remember correctly, the toilet. As they used to say in chewing the fat….hooow?
Who else would have had access to all of the e mails, accounts, personal details etc?
Hmmmm……
Bob innes was the provost of glasgow who is said to have challenged the sandyhills no Catholics policy. Possibly either teacher at the mungo or a relative of your man.
twists n turns
agreed, and the fact charlotte is goading anyone threatening him/her anytime police or internet authorities are mentioned seems to me they know they are on solid ground with legalities..
Unbreakable seats? From the same inventor of the Vandal Proof bus shelter ?
..and the fireproof bus depot.
Funbhoy 3
EH?
The Club have just recently appointed a supporters liaison officer and I believe have an established channel of communication with the GB. Instead of using these resources to have discrete, yet firm talks with all the supporters in section 111, the Club release a public statement threatening to close a section of the ground. Que media hysteria and the peddling of this idea of a support gone wild…
Celtic handled this badly imo, yes, the club is duty bound to sort out this banger nonsense but let’s not do the MSM job for them in terms of making a mountain out of a molehill. It’s fireworks and bangers, annoying, idiotic and must stop. However, listening to some, including many on here, it’s almost like the Heysel disaster.
Gonnae gees another project CSC
Of course, Terry Eagleton is quoted on Wikipedia as saying “”for the most part football these days is the opium of the people, not to speak of their crack cocaine. “.
He might not be wrong, but as he’s from a Catholic family from Salford I can guess that he has seen a certain amount of this close up.
I’m not talking horses on the blog, so I’ll talk…err…fitba. I met a man once. Now he knew a man called Jarrow who was quite a good player. Nae Lubo mind ye, but more of a kris commons type of guy. However, he lost his way and started to play a bit like Kirk Broadfoot. So he dropped down a division but still didnae play like Lubo, or even Kris. All these rubbish performances saw the man lose weight…indeed he lost about 10 lb all in. Recently, at home, the man says Kirk is starting to look more like Kris again. Anyhow, he’s going to meet him tonight at Chepstow, at 7.50 pm, and he hopes his old pal will show some better form tonight. Mind you, the bookies don’t think so, and as such have offered 8/1 that it’ll be Kirk who turns up. My pal hopes they are wrong, cos he phoned me earlier and said, twisty, you might want to risk a wee fiver that the bookies are wrong, and it’ll be Kris who turns up in Chepstow tonight. He added the caveat…. But only a fiver mind.
An Dun
16:25 on
26 July, 2013
You’ve got that totally wrong. The club said the threat was there but they HAVE met and discussed the issue with fans representatives and the area will remain open.
Read the club statement again. It makes no mention of the GB other than to praise.
However most people, myself included, class that section as “their’s” and mistakenly read it as blaming the GB for the trouble. It doesn’t say that.
Twists-is there a tip in there?
timsrgr8 at 15:26 on 26 July, 2013
When were you at the Mungo? I was at various annexes between 1963 and 1969.
Canamalr1
So now you agree that the damage might not be caused by the ticket holder (is that correct ?)
Yes ….
irrespective of which section the damage is done are you still advocating the seat occupant should be treated as harshly as you originally advocated ?
Yes ……
And only in the sections you consider to be high risk ?
No …..
Or have we moved on from that and it’s just down to oneupmanship ?
Yes and No
Are you related to Petrocelli?
I am sure whatever the club do to resolve the problem of some ill-advised, impressionable youths damaging our ground and reputation , there will be enough folk around to blame the Board and after all its only just high jinks, broken seats, fireworks ………