Do you remember the knot in your stomach when we were five points behind in the league race, when every game was a ‘must win’ event? Five points is a substantial gap, eight is huge. I seriously doubt Derek McInnes reckons Aberdeen have a remote chance of winning the league, but should the gap increase to eight points tomorrow, he could be excused if he gets carried away for a moment.
Celtic will win the league but only because they will improve and win important games, like tomorrow’s against Hearts. The knot’s back in my stomach; we need the win. Although Hearts are not the league challengers this season, the scenario mirrors their visit to Celtic Park a decade ago, when they were the last non-Glasgow club to open the league season with a flurry of wins.
Resist, resist, we must resist
300 years and the tune never changes. Newco chairman, Dave King, proclaimed, “This application will be strongly resisted”, as he confirmed Charles Green has been to court to enforce the contract which, apparently, obliges Newco to pay his legal fees for actions in connection with the club, a liability which was recorded in Newco’s 2012 IPO prospectus.
King seemed to confirm Green had a good case by telling journalists Green’s legal difficulties concern his time “his time as an officer of the Club”, closing speculation on one possible angle of defence.
There’s nothing unusual in this clause in Green’s contract. Company directors can be held criminally liable for acts of corporate wrong-doing. They can be fined or jailed for actions carried out by their staff, even without a direct instruction. If you are a company director, it is your responsibility to ensure Health and Safety regulations are enforced and appropriate, and that actions by the company are not criminal.
In the event a criminal charge is levelled against a director (or former director) of a company for acts carried out by, or on behalf of, the company, directors will seek the assistance of the company in preparing and funding their defence.
This is how business is conducted and the responsibility of the non-executive directors to ensure that the actions of directors are consistent with the interests of shareholders and other stakeholders (in this instance fans).
If Green holds a contract, Kings will know his protests are empty bluster. I see estimates of legal fees in the region of £500k. There will be no change from £500k on this one, not even close. That figure might cover the photocopying costs. Dig deep, Dave.
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HH
BHEAVER, As far as I know the game isn’t on the Telly. You would be relying on a pub with an illegal feed to be showing the game. I doubt very much if any pub in Dublin will be showing the game. There is one I know in Cork who probably are but apart from that your only bet would be an Internet sausage.
voguepunter
Fully agree ….I’ve always felt that, in the main, Hearts fans were more ‘hooligan’ than ‘sectarian bigots’ ……there is nothing to compare with the hatred / sinister intimidation generated by derhun, and some Celtic supporters actually want them back ….hunbelievable
Lennybhoy
We’re doing well pal .
Hope everything is good at your end . Tell M next time I’m over I’ll bring in lunch
( chocolate digestives for starters , jumbo kitkat for main and tunnocks tea cakes for dessert) :)
Hope C is doing alright , teenagers eh!
corkcelt
And what’s wrong with links or square sausages ?…..at least you wouldn’t get intergestion … :)
67Heaven. True.
Thebarcamole
If your lurking , fancy a wee day oot . We could pick you up and drop after the game and KDS , you could meet up with wee B .
MARSPAPA on 26TH SEPTEMBER 2015 10:08 AM
Glad to hear mate.
M’s mouth is watering already…:)
C is doing okay but as you say, Teenagers eh, break your Heart at times but is doing okay.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
CORKCELT
THanks for the reply. I will just have to keep up to date through CQN
Hail hail!
Tony D
Hearts would point out that their history bore no resemblance to the old Huns. No discriminatory signing policy, no international violence, no financial cheating. But yes they have a right nasty mob following them. A jambo in my work assures me their bigot element comes mostly from West Lothian and even he calls them Huns without the bus fare.
Catch you later.
Well breakfast then the bus to our derby game! Nothing better than beating this mob and meet them in the pub after the game.
I got a wee visit late yesterday afternoon from PapaJohn from these pages who wanted to hand his Living Wage form to me personally.
What a lovely man but for goodness sake change the colour of the top John!! :-)
67 heaven
I live in Hamilton , used to stay in a flat on Almada street , the worst fans to visit were
Airdrie and Hearts fans absolute scumbags , no consideration for the ordinary members of the public , violence and flying bottles everywhere …anyhow guys need to go ,stuff round the house to be done for the “Boss” …brownie points i’n’ all that .
A clean sheet and a win will suffice …..but, for some reason last night 5-2 came to mind .
Kevj , seen a couple of posts from you , glad to see you in good form all the best comrade :))
22’06”
From ETims, appols if already posted, very interesting and along the way I was thinking.
http://etims.net/?p=7822
My friends in Celtic,
Both Edinburgh clubs supporters hate us with a passion, although the sectarian element is only apparent in one of them. Games over a period have taught me that.
I will not go down the Hun route of nobody likes us, but it is probably true to say that we get no favours from the non Celtic supporting General public or establishment.
Can you imagine the outcry if police officers were injured ( including a female) during major crowd disorder as what happened in the recent Morton v Motherwell game.
Government summits, banning orders and dawn raids would be plastered over the national media.
In no way are we looking for prefential treatment just equality.
HH.
MARRAKESH EXPRESS on 26TH SEPTEMBER 2015 10:23 AM
Tony D
Hearts would point out that their history bore no resemblance to the old Huns. No discriminatory signing policy, no international violence, no financial cheating. But yes they have a right nasty mob following them. A jambo in my work assures me their bigot element comes mostly from West Lothian and even he calls them Huns without the bus fare.
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Coming from West Lothian I can tell u that the above observation is bang on
HH
Tony D
I read the e-tims line and I think it is both right and wrong.
It is right in thinking that Ashley could pick up the Sevco carcas from the ruins of the Dave King regime and the Govan fans would (mostly) line up behind him like the good little soldiers they have been.
It is right in speculating that, with or without a £20m to £30m injection from Ashley they would become credible opponents for the league just as Aberdeen are managing to do (without the money being needed). By credible, I mean they will make the title race more competitive but it would take their players 2 years I reckon to get used to the higher standard of weekly competition and make a right fist of a title race. Again , I feel they can do this without Ashley’s money which, if it is made available, will be needed elsewhere in the institution and not much will be left over for player acquisition or retention (they might not need it if Barca pay £50m for Tavernier).
Where the article goes wrong is in its hyperbole about Sevco in Europe being more prestigious than Newcastle in the EPL. Mike Ashley gains nothing by taking a Scots club into Europe, whether or not they would ever be good enough to reach the Group Stages. He can earn 5 times as much with a team that retains an EPL place year after year than can ever be obtained by entering Europe.
The Celtics, Malmos, Salzburgs, Zagrebs, Anderlechts and Maribors do not become bigger clubs than Newcastle by getting one or two consecutive CL campaigns. Even clubs that are more consistently there, like Olympiakos and Basel, will struggle to compete with a just-above-the-relegation places Newcastle. One of Basel’s former stars has gone to Stoke rather than go back there even though he won’t get CL football at Stoke.
Mike Ashley will not get any more Euro success at Sevco than DD can engender for us. He will not get valuable European exposure for his companies- just ask yourself – who advertises and benefits from Basel in Europe? Benfica? Anderlecht? Naw, me neither.
If Ashley thought it was worth it he would become one of the official CL sponsors and he would not need a team in Europe to achieve this.
So, yes, Ashley could end up owning the latest shell of Sevco and yes, whether he does or does not, they could supplant Aberdeen as our closest league rivals in a few years time but the Euro stuff is fantasy IMO
Efforts bam pots United. Liked the bit about keep your criticism constructive, or your backing the MSM, so very true.
A thing that some in here should try.
https://bampotsutd.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/backing-ronnie-and-the-bhoys-and-sacking-the-smsm/
What do you think?
http://readceltic.com/2015/09/25/predicted-xi-celtic-vs-hearts-h/
Tiny Tim
Is Griffiths injured ?
Ciftci looked to have a tight hamstring on Wednesday too, I thought he’d struggle for today, especially as he sprinted half the length of the pitch in support of Johansen thereafter.
TD 67
Efe at centre back if Simunovic is out ?
BIG-CUP-WINNERS
“Striker Leigh Griffiths will return after missing the Scottish League Cup win over Raith Rovers, but utility man Charlie Mulgrew remains sidelined.”
HH
Looking forward to playing the horribles fae Gorgie. Love to pump that mob and think we will do that today. Mon the Hoops!
Thanks, Starry, just been reading back and noticed Tiny Tim’s comment that Griffiths could be out.
Griffiths will doubly enjoy the fixture.
BIG-CUP-WINNERS
He’s a stick on to stick it too the mini stickies:))
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 26TH SEPTEMBER 2015 11:15 AM
TD 67
Efe at centre back if Simunovic is out ?
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I’m cool wi that.
Wee Leigh will have to play it clever today and stay calm.
Oh! And I’m wondering if sheet house Anny will be on privy duty in the away section at Celtic Park?
Just asking like?
Clouds clearing in Clydebank. Sun coming out along with many hooped tops. Looking like a big turnout for the game later.
COYBIG
Interesting article today on Newsnow about CG lamenting not taking his cut of the fee when he went to Sunderland. Eye opening comment in it – not his quote – about Hearts coming out of Admin and saving their history……unlike Rangers. In the DR too!
Can’t C/p as I’m on a kindle……can anyone oblige? Very interesting reading.
Izzy should start today, though if things are going well we need whoever is going to be selected v Fenerbace to have a run out. Most likely it will be Blacket but does anyone know if Simunovic can play LB?
Nani running at Blacket or Mulgrew (if he’s fit) doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.
HH!
Delaneys Dunky
I’m always excited by a game against Hearts.
One of the games I remember was a Scottish cup win in 1983.
They might’ve been in the First division, or just promoted. And they had lots of ex-Rangers players in their team: Jardine MacDonald and Willie Johnston. The latter got sent off for hitting Davie Provan.
They really fancied their chances and they brought a massive support (relatively speaking) through. They got the whole of the old Rangers end.
We put them to the sword that day too – 4-1 !
Phils Up
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Since 2010, I have encountered a recurring theme among The People.
Put simply there has been a stubborn refusal to openly acknowledge that this site had developed excellent sources of information on matters Ibrox.
Despite this, time and again the narrative outlined here has been subsequently vindicated by events.
I was having something of a digital clear out last night and looking back over the last three years it was quite interesting.
Although I often implore my readers to use the search function on this site, I rarely do so myself.
Here is a piece from May 27th 2012.
The world was young then dear reader and Rangers were still alive.
You will note that within the short piece I mentioned the …ahem…possibility that the forces of law and order might have an interest in the Duff & Phelps chaps.
Obviously these are now live proceedings and cannot be commented upon in the media.
However, when I was writing this, the stenographers were standing in line waiting for the next instalment of good news from Ibrox.
Another factor over these last three years has been the childlike impatience of the average Fitba fan.
I told one Celtic affiliated chap at a Q & A evening, also in 2012, that this Ibrox saga would not be concluded to a timescale of his liking.
The poor fellow fidgeted as I addressed him.
I related that one well-placed source (yes one of them dear reader) had confidently assured me that the entire Rangers/Sevco saga would generate “a decade of litigation”.
His prediction was made to me after the Initial Public Offering of Rangers International Football Club (RIFC).
At that Q & A, I could call on the expertise and good counsel of the late Paul McConville.
PaulMcConville
I still have to do a double take at times that my big blogging buddy has passed on.
There was a time, in early 2013 when I was writing ‘Minority Reporter’, that I was delighted that Paul was taking up the slack on the Sevco saga.
The moral of this story is that it is sometimes worthwhile to take a pause, look back and assess what you have been doing.
Moreover, three years is probably a good chunk of time to work out if you’ve been wasting your time or not.
I recently came to the conclusion that I had squandered that amount of my existence on a failed project, but my motives were the best.
Some endeavours have a birth defect, and they simply can’t be fixed along the way.
However, this journalistic exercise hasn’t, in my opinion, been a waste of my time.
Throughout the last three years the Fitba Fourth estate has, in my opinion, looked the other way as all things Ibrox imploded.
During this time, the stenographers just stood in line hoping to be rewarded with the next succulent press release and simultaneously trembling in fear of upsetting The People.
I recall in 2012 speaking to one tabloid journalist who worked for a major title in Scotland.
He had discovered that, because of his brief professional association with me, the klan was trying to access his home address and other personal information.
I can still recall the panic in his voice as he spoke of his young family.
Consequently, I was not surprised when his title fell into line and obeyed klan’s diktat.
This was not an isolated incident in 2012.
I now have trusted sources of information that I did not have in the year that Rangers died.
The basic lesson is that if you keep working on a story then other doors are opened for you.
However, you must knock on those entrances and be prepared for rejection again and again.
I am convinced that, three years on, The People would rather it was only succulent fantasies that were on offer.
Hopefully, you are of a different mind dear reader.
Billy Bhoy
here’s the passage:
“While the Jambos support mobilised with impressive cohesion and vigour to raise money to keep the club going in its darkest hours, Gordon admits he feared the club might not be saved and face liquidation, as Rangers did before them.
He said: “It was a possibility. It would have come back somehow, whatever route it had to go down. The pleasing part is to keep the club as it was. While it had an administration to emerge from, for it still to be the same club with the same history is massive for the fans.”
What the article doesn’t do is distinguish between Hearts an ordinary football club and a clumpany with law with an incubator plan………..and thousands of wee hurting Huns steeped in cheating and malfeasance………and of course the ability to get way with threatening anyone who tells the truth.
Td67 if we took the approach that we only ever supporters those who run Celtic because there a range of enemies across Scotland against us I gues it would seem prettupy attractive huh. A nice cosy we are all in this together sort of feeling. United against our enemies sort of thing?
Yeah?
Wouldn’t that be great. I could go back to CP and we could really feel together.
That’s exactly what I want.
But you see those who run Celtic most definitely are not all in it together with us. They don’t view you and I as us. They only see the support as a source of money (who occasionally start asking questions they don’t like).
That’s bad enough right?
But then if you add to that those who run Celtic collude with the very media we think we are up against (loved the £5.5m planted story on deadline day in the DR). Even worse than that the collude with the s f a and the Huns.
Do you remember that wee story about the s f a and police Scotland saying it was ok to call Celtic fans Fenian bs. And how Paul assured us that Celtic would pursue?
Wonder what happenned to that?
Buried.
Six feet down.
Celtic say absolutely nothing as usual. Why? Dos they probably don’t care what we are called as long as we pay our money. I mean it’s okay to ridicule us about being smelly etc and of course Celtic said nothing about that either.
So Tony the problem is that, while we all want to be in this together, the only we is your fellow supporter otherwise you are simply snuggling up with the Sharks.
Phil’s up …
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/staying-the-course-and-assessing-the-past/
Billy bhoy.
Had a look at that story from Craig Gordon,seems like a good guy,you asked if anyone would C/P the article for you.here it is.
STEPHEN HALLIDAY
09:01Saturday 26 September 2015
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HAVE YOUR SAY
Craig Gordon cannot help wondering where the money Hearts earned from his record £9million transfer to Sunderland went. Perhaps only Vladimir Romanov and his erstwhile colleagues really know the answer to that.
Now Celtic No.1, Gordon was sold by his formative club Hearts in August 2007 in a British record deal for a goalkeeper. At the time, the Edinburgh club were £36million in debt, a noose around their neck which would eventually suffocate them into the coma of administration.
As he prepares for the return of the top-flight fixture between Celtic and Hearts this afternoon, Gordon has revealed he even donated his share of the transfer fee to the Gorgie outfit eight years ago. It was not an inconsiderable amount – believed to be a six-figure sum – which Gordon hoped would go towards the youth development arm of Hearts.
“Maybe it did go towards that, maybe it didn’t,” says Gordon. “I’ve no idea. But it would have been nice if a certain percentage of it had managed to filter through.
“I don’t know what happened to my transfer fee. I think it’s long gone, but I’m saying nothing! When I left Hearts, I didn’t take anything with me from the transfer fee or any signing on fees. I left that with the club. Maybe it would have been better if I had taken it with me so I could put it back in now.
“I waived what I could have taken. I thought that was the right thing to do. The club did well by me. They gave me my chance to come through and showed a great deal of faith in me. They put me on a good contract before I left for Sunderland, which was not long after it. I certainly didn’t feel the need to take any more than was necessary. I did say that I would rather leave it to the youth development which had helped me, to put it towards perhaps a few more players coming through.”
Gordon could only watch in horror when the team he grew up supporting lapsed into administration in June 2013. “When Hearts got into trouble, I didn’t do very much at all to be honest. Until things settled down and there was clear road forward, I didn’t do very much at all. It was a difficult time until things looked as if they were heading in the right direction and they were going to get out of it.
“Ann Budge came in and she was the catalyst to that happening. She has done an unbelievable job, setting things up the way that she has. There wasn’t a way forward and it looked as if it wasn’t going to be worthwhile and there were some pretty dark days.
“We didn’t really know where the club was going to go but thankfully it seems to be on the right path now. The club is very stable and there is a huge difference on the park as well.
“I thought at one point it was a possibility the club could have gone. I think it would’ve come back somehow, whatever way, whatever route it had to go down to do that. For it still to be the same club with the same history is massive for the fans.
“I’m happy the Celtic-Hearts fixture is back. It’s a good game, good for the league and good to play in. The fans always make it a great atmosphere and there can be some lively games. So I think everyone is glad it’s back. No matter whether it’s at Celtic Park or Tynecastle, it is a big game.”
BCW
Remember that game against Hertz in 1983 well.
Brian McClair hat trick.
Similar today I hope. LG hat trick? :)