It didn’t occur to me until I read the CQN this morning that today sees a return on active duty to Bratislava for Gordon Strachan and David Marshall. 11 years ago Gordon started his competitive career as Celtic manager against previously unheard of Slovak minnows, Artmedia. The scouting had been done and Gordon was privately confident of progressing but the evening turned into his worst 90 minutes in football.
Six days later Celtic came close to overcoming a 5-0 first leg deficit, but could not add to the scoring after going 4-0 up with 20 minutes remaining.
Gordon went on to win three consecutive titles and took Celtic to the knock-out stage of the Champions League twice, no manager had previously done this once, but he never really shook-off the baggage from that night.
David Marshall wasn’t to blame for what happened on the field but Artur Boruc had signed a few weeks earlier and would soon supplant Marshall as first choice.
Chris Sutton picked up an injury away to Artmedia but I’m not convinced he really took to Gordon Strachan’s attempts to improve training ground habits. The last days of the Martin O’Neill era will never be recalled as a time of intense work. Gordon’s first job was to change this. It didn’t go down well with some senior players.
11 years later you can see the echoes of that time, as Chris wrongly tells the nation Gordon has lost interest in the Scotland job. I’m not a footballer, or manager, so don’t know if it’s possible for someone to lose interest in a job. It’s got me wondering, though, did Chris ever lose interest in a job?
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the phil blog is good today.
i always have a wee chuckle that it was green and whyte that dealt the final blows and that the solicitor for the retail deal was ireland
Panopticon – people pass it everyday and don’t know its there.
‘Manchester City have told their youth team players they must wear black boots in order to “create a culture of discipline in the academy set-up”.
City are aiming to ensure their young players remain grounded and academy policy dictates that colourful footwear is not permitted’
Tontine Tim, sorry for the delay in replying.
A Motherwell fan I work loathes McLeish . He thinks McLeish is untrustworthy and as you said leaves clubs in a worst state than they were in .
Some of his comments when he was at Ibrox and others made since have caused me to dislike him intensely.
Re Duffield Smith, you are right about Murray getting his placeman in at head of the SFA.
When Smith and Peat wanted to change the cup final in 2008 to a later date but not consulting Queen of the South about it, Murray would no doubt have been the puppet master in that instance as well as on other occasions.
Duffield leaving the SFA job to care for his parents but the follwing Sunday he was on Sky covering our game at Tannadice . Who said a man can’t multi task.
https://t.co/2etmH3gEti?ssr=true
Dembele scores again for France U 21s
MARGARET MCGILL on 11TH OCTOBER 2016 5:35 PM
Cant stand Tims that criticize SC or WGS. Great servants to Celtic.
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Surely you mean:-
Can’t stand Tims that criticise SC or WGS. Great ‘very well renumerated Celtic employees’.
MWD
bournesouprecipe
Anybody that turns up wearing pink, purple or cerise should be be forced to wear Big Jimmy’s aul bits.
Pour encourager les autres n’est ce pas.
BSR … why is that building call a Panopticon? Doesn’t really seem to be one … unless I am missing something.
Bournesoup – interesting link. Thanks
Gootie !!!!!
Footie
Mike, maybe a Pantechnicon, a hoose on wheels.
Mike
“Derived from the Greek terms Pan meaning “everything” and Opti meaning “to see”. However – it was a name that no-one in Glasgow could remember, spell or pronounce – so locally it became known as The Pots and Pans”
allegedly CSC
tom jamieson @jamiesont 10h10 hours ago
Love this time of year when the nights are drawing in, there’s a chill in the air & the whole family gathers round a roaring Galaxy Note 7
BSR …panopticons are usually prisons, or those sorts of institutions ..(see .Bentham, foucault) .. where a centralized (unseen) guard is able to observe 360 degrees (or at least, potentially see 360) in order to keep its constituents under surveillance and under control …. tends to have rather ominous, usually fascistic overtones …. just seems like a very odd name for a music hall where people are supposed to go to have fun…never understood that.
Fitba boots eh, my first pair were the George Best ones..
Wee shades wants new boots for his birthday at the end of the month, they cost more than my first car ffs, mind you they will probably last longer.
Never had a pair of football boots,never had a football strip but did have several pairs of Everlast boxing gloves.My old man rightly forecast that I wasn’t destined to be a footballer and with an attitude and a mouth like mine ,it would be appropriate for me to learn to fight.As with many things,He was right.
only took him a year to take the 2nd rangers to the brink of administration – lest they forget .
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It is disappointing that a debate has re-emerged around the subject of Rangers’ history in Scottish football. It must be especially frustrating for the Club’s supporters who again find individuals within the structures of Scottish football unfairly targeting the Club.
As the one individual who was a major shareholder and director throughout the period that gave rise to the HMRC dispute, and again find myself in a similar capacity, I believe that I am uniquely positioned to make three important observations.
First, irrespective of the final outcome of the tax appeal (which might take several more years) the football team had no advantage from any tax savings from the scheme put in place by the Murray Group. Throughout the period in question the shareholders were committed to providing funding to the Club. The tax scheme may have reduced the need for shareholders to provide higher levels of funding so, as I have tried to make clear in the past, any advantage gained would have been to the company and its shareholders, not the team. Certain players may not have signed for the Club without the perceived benefit of personal tax savings but there was no general advantage for the player squad, or the performance on the pitch. We would still have signed players of equal abilities if one or two had decided they didn’t want to sign under different financial circumstances.
Secondly, Lord Nimmo Smith has fully and finally dealt with the legitimacy of the continuity of the Club’s history. There is no more to be debated on that issue.
Finally, it is extraordinary that representatives of other Scottish clubs – who admit the damage done to Scottish football by Rangers’ removal from the Premier League – should even wish to re-engage with this issue. It is time those individuals, who represent other clubs, recognise their legal and fiduciary responsibilities to their own clubs and shareholders rather than submit to the uninformed ramblings of a few outspoken fans to whom attacking Rangers is more important than the wellbeing of their own clubs.
This is a misguided attempt (that will ultimately fail) to rewrite history and defeat Rangers off the park when their teams could not do so on the park at the time. The history of many other clubs would have to be rewritten if this illogical argument was to be consistently applied.
Having reviewed documentation that has become available to me I believe that Rangers was harshly and, in some instances, unfairly treated in the period leading up to demotion from the Premier League. However, that is now history and I have publicly stated, with the full support of the recently installed board, that we wish to put the past behind us and move on in partnership with all clubs throughout Scotland to improve and restore the image and quality of Scottish football as a whole. This will be to the benefit of all clubs.
For the avoidance of doubt, however, I wish to make one point clear. If the history of our Club comes under attack we will deal with it in the strongest manner possible and will hold to account those persons who have acted against their fiduciary responsibilities to their own clubs and to Scottish football.
Watching the ‘Shocking Pink’ on a Scottish Stream.
Kids must have got hold of the remote after the Slovakia goal………..
How appropriate – we got a couple of minutes of the Mickey Mouse Channel.
Nailed studs were replaced by moulded boots and studs, and screw in studs.
Not that many seem interested in the Scotland game,but KT is having a good game
ive been here a few times, on the open days, just for a wander, tell you what, it really does have a distinctive aroma.
http://www.britanniapanopticon.org/history/
Scotland leading the way with our principled decision to boycott Putins World Cup.
Paterson and Bannen are murder and the 2 centre backs couldnae get a game for Sevco!
Front 2 not far behind.
If I was Griffiths or Forrest I’d get my suit on at half-time and tell WGS tae GTF.
FAC the Act
KTF
Under the management of Mr & Mrs Rossborough the Britannia Music Hall flourished. They gave the auditorium and foyer a facelift which the Glasgow Sentinel newspaper described as being “… painted with very great taste indeed….
*Irish songs were a particular favourite as much of the audience had come from Ireland during the potato famine of the 1840’s and they loved to hear Irish airs and reminisce about the Emerald Isle.
All this entertainment under the one roof brought the in public in droves, but the building was no longer called Britannia Music Hall, it was now advertised as The Grand Panopticonwhich is a name derived from the Greek terms Pan meaning “everything” and Opti meaning “to see”. However – it was a name that no-one in Glasgow could remember, spell or pronounce – so locally it became known as The Pots and Pans.
Soon after the reopening of the Britannia in its new guise as the Panopticon, a young man aged sixteen approached the Yorkshire show man and asked him if he might have a chance to perform on the stage. When Pickard asked the boy, “Why?” the lad apparently replied “Because I’m Funny” and that was enough to secure him a slot on that coming Friday’s amateur night. His name was Arthur Stanley Jefferson and his first joke went something like this “Did you hear the one about the two butterflies? One butterfly said to the other butterfly, “I am bothered, I am bothered”.”Why’s that then?” said the other butterfly. “Because I couldn’t go to the dance.”said the first butterfly. “Why ever not?” asked the second “Because it was a moth ball.”
That young lad could not have dreamed where that first joke would lead him, but the world still knows him today as that young lad was Stan Laurel, one half of that famous comedy duo Laurel and Hardy. A. E. Pickard was always proud of the break he gave that young lad and Stan never forgot it either and revisited Pickard some years later in the 1930s.
‘everything to see’ …. got it now …
Absolutely shocking.
Will Young has walked away from Strictly.
RON BACARDI on 11TH OCTOBER 2016 8:24 PM
Nailed studs were replaced by moulded boots and studs, and screw in studs.
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Nailed studs. Brought back a painful memory from my childhood of my ma buying me Co-OP football boots.
An even more painful memory was wearing them.
Blimey I’d forgotten how bad Scotland are.
Young Kieron is the stand-ut player. the rest – almost to a man utter garbage.
The interesting thing for me is that many of these players play in the English Championship. They are all probably on higher wages than most of our squad and if we wanted to buy any of them we’d be quoted fees in the multiple millions. But Barry Banner, Grant Handly, Ritchie, the Fletchers look considerably worse than the player we currently have.
Griff and Jamesie lucky not to be playing against a bunch of hackers that are being given free rein by the referee to hack with impunity. Robert Snodgrass singled out for a few kicks. We don’t need the injuries.
KT head and shoulders above everybody else on the pitch.
Bournesouprecipe, Saint Stives,
Magic and amazing bit of history. All the times I have walked ( Staggered ) past there I never thought for a minute the history behind that building.
One thing is for sure, when I have time and I’m in the vicinity I will check it out.
Indeed, everyday is a schoolday on CQN.
Cheers and HH.
http://thecelticblog.com/2016/10/blogs/one-painful-lesson-hasnt-been-enough-for-ibrox-fans-thats-why-another-is-on-its-way/?
DESSYBHOY on 11TH OCTOBER 2016 7:04 PM
Having read PhilMac, not much chance of Sevco paying for damage to Celtic Park when the wrecked the toilets, I wonder though if the club have sent the bill?
Dessybhoy, it wouldn’t surprise me if this is the mystery bill that hasn’t been paid. Lots of Celtic Tweeters suddenly saying, late last week, that they knew of “at least one” overdue bill.
Would not surprise me if it’s ours and our club are leaking the info. Just for fun, like…
Obviously WGS hasn’t used ‘Panopticon’ during training…………………
hardly one cross/pass has found a teammate – dreadful performance!
Tontine Tim
Aye, Big Jock sure made Bob out to be better than reality, but he did have a few endearing qualities :-)
I was hoping someone would come on and correct me or enlighten me, my memory ain’t what it should be.
HH
Just watching the half time ‘highlights’ on some kind of loop. When Slovakia scored, 3 of our players appear to run toward the ref appealing for something. Goal looked OK on the highlights. Anyone know what it was about?
Mikebhoy, Stephen Fletcher was fouled on the edge of their box 20 seconds before the goal. Should’ve been a free kick to us in a dangerous position.
It looks to me like WGS does not have a clue. KT not picked for Saturday, Griff who has probably scored more than the combined goals of the other forwards in the pool, not started again. Bizarre team management.
C’mon my beloved Slov…….oops typo