Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.
This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business. Not in Scotland. In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares. Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.
It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability. Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?
It’s a cop out. I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table. Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult. Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands. Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.
Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.
For that, it’s worth it.
Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights. Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s. Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then. They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.
Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg. Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs? The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals. It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.
Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.
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UK banks launch Fifa investigation
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Two UK banks have started internal reviews into whether they were used for corrupt payments by Fifa officials, the BBC understands.
Barclays and Standard Chartered, together with HSBC, were referred to in the FBI indictment of seven senior Fifa officials last week.
Meanwhile Labour leadership candidate Andy Burnham has called on England to boycott the next World Cup.
However, Football Association chairman Greg Dyke said it cannot act alone.
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Geordie
Huns on here ??… From time to time …no this morning
Hamiltontim
00:20 on 31 May, 2015
Take the 9 minutes it’s worth it.
http://youtu.be/GgVMMGOFU2s
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1st link I clicked when catching up this morning,
No words at the moment
re suitable
GM
Driving through to Bonnybrig, then finding a pub with no tv for lunch with my son. Avoiding thems like the plague.
leftclicktic
Congratulations. Collect your cyber Lisbon Lions award!
morning all
being an Inverness lhad born and bred and spending my early childhood in the Howden End watching Inverness Caley in the Highland League (untill my Da started taking me to Paradise) I have often had a fondness for ICT and always want them to do well.
It was with mixed emotions i watched the game yesterday with my son (also born in Ness but a Paradise ST holder like myself). At the final whistle we switched off, couldn’t watch them celebrate knowing we were cheated out of a treble, In different circumstances we may had gone to the game with old friends but could not face it.
Any thoughts of being happy for them evaporated after their tweet ‘thats how to win with 10 men’………..no longer will we ever look for their score and hope they do well
anyways……….onto today, i pray Murderwell do the biz BUT there will be dark forces at work this afternoon, non-existant free kicks will be awarded where ever possible, yellow cards issued early doors, everything possible will be done for the 3 year old team to ensure they complete the journey. I fully expect a catalogue of honest mistakes this afternoon, can Well come out on top.?
Pfayr,
No no. Fear of huns I meant.
They’re gonna get a penalty. They are gonna get a player sent off. The masonic ref will ensure it. The leagues will change.
I’ve heard it every game now for weeks.
DD,
Braw min. Is that not Thunder road toon?
HH
I’m going on the bus visiting to wishaw General today,
If things go right you will know me by my smile. :))))))))).
If not ye will still know me by my smile, no matter the score they are goosed,though I would prefer they were as far away from me and mine on matchdays as possible.
Hail Hail
glendalystonsils
DD is running aboooooooot the the house with is we speak :)))
Till later all
Paul67
If Clubs in Scotland were held liable for their fans’ behaviour, oldco would have been liquidated decades ago ….that’s the only reason Clubs are not held liable in Scotland….no doubt about it …..
Right. M’affit.
I have no interest in a playoff game.
But……
Mon the Well :))
HH
leftclicktic
11:21 on 31 May, 2015
I could not agree with you more …… I will be out for a walk, to avoid them polluting my TV
Geordie
Not sure if you watched the game on Thursday
Madden game them every decision possible in the last 30 mins ….thankfully there were no big decisions
I have the highest disregard for the SFA / MIB …..I don’t believe I’m paranoid …I believe my attitude has developed from years of cheating …of which there are countless examples
Hoping that a ref will officiate in an impartial fashion is a sad indictment on Scottish football
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SPFL – check
SFA – check
Referee – check
Linesmen – check
Fourth official – check
TV/Radio Broadcaster – check
Sports Media – check
Players ability – questionable :(
Wait … Barclays Bank and and the SFA both think FIFA is corrupt?
Well, they would know.
GM
Driving through to visit TR. :)
Speyside Lhad
I wouldn’t let one person’s snidey tweet spoil either your memories or affection for ICT.
The report was carried in the MSM wasn’t it ? Just another wee salve to the Deadclub’s followers, like the BBC’s remembrance of the Helicopter Sunday when we had our 4-in-a-row celebrations.
It emphasises to me just how much Celtic’s success hurts them.
Having been in Lourdes all week and just returning last night, I have had a lot of catching up to do. I prayed at the Grotto for all CQNers, believers or non-believers. I remembered Sean in a special way last weekend. So MT, I am delighted to hear the result of Sean’s court case and of his exam results. You have all been through much, but I am sure you are stronger for it. You are aware more than ever of the strength of the CQN Family around you also.
HT. No word yet from Sturgeon, Cunningham or Mc Millan. Will give them a week and then I will challenge them again. Will keep you informed. Still continue to be amazed that some people have not signed the anti-OB Act petition. Where are you all then?
Ststivs, cannot remember if it was a good day on that morning in 1973 in Holy Family, PG, but I do know that if you contact Cursillo you will be amazed at what such a group can achieve. I did a Cursillo weekend in Derry many years ago and participated in two others later on. It is a truly great experience which you might benefit from.
You know what, I’d like the huns to score in the last minute to win 1 -0, how sweet it’d be,eh
KINGLuBO
Watch Brother Thomson give Sevco as many cheap fouls as he can,to enable them to get a ball in the box,it’s their only hope.
KINGLuBO
I’d prefer a Well player to score in the last minute to make it 1-2.
But then,I’m just a bitter Fenian b…..d apparently.
….pfayr supports weeoscar
11:26 on 31 May, 2015
ABSOLUTELY…….and it has all resulted in the demise of derhun…..and they also all ignored murraymint skimming off the top ….Doo doo
Re bank investigation concerning Fifa
Did I miss the investigation into Gavin Masterson.
On a completely diff subject(not really)
Read phill,s last blog and the links to Alex Thompson jabba story were grill.l know it wasa while ago but I,d. Never read that before
Jaba really couldn’t lie straight in his bed
https://youtu.be/3dDrO4eyI8U
This takes me back, my ole Granda played this a lot…
HH
Grill someone must be cooking the books
Shit ahv broke it
‘Well’, I’m away out now for a wee visit to see the grandchildren, a long walk in the countryside, and then I’ll go for a wee swim, returning home around about 5pm…..
Not sure about the early goal theory. McCall will be happy if it’s 0-0 at half time.
They will keep a very deep back four and play long balls. Wouldn’t be surprised if Boyd plays.
Wonder if Well might go with Sutton to hold the ball up. Won’t get the same counter-attacking opportunities.
Could be meltdown in Sevconia today.
Would be a great end to the season.
Well shouldn’t fear a team as gash as Sevco…..stifle Lee Wallace…go at their crap defenders with Ainsworth and Erwin.
Well are at home….go for the throat from the kick off….they wont live with it.
HH
Can’t help the feeling that if the situation was reversed and we had issued that tweed the various agencies of hunnery would be all over us.
Best reply is to keep winning, it’s clearly cutting very deep at the moment.
!!Bada Bing!!
That and the wide players flinging the ball in to the mixer will be their only chance.
Madden was great in the first half. But in the second, what a change, he ignored repeated fouls on Motherwell’s forwards, whilst awarding innocuous (at best) stuff to Sevco.
TET (I think) often observes, how good Thomson is at changing a match subtly, almost unnoticed.
Motherwell must play the game as high up as they can. The new club are statuesque in their defending when opponents pass and move.
Allowing them possession in Well’s half, will just invite high balls on top of heir keeper.
Elbows will start, Boyd too. Did you see the latter’s joke claim for a penalty ?
King Lubo don’t say that FFS’s.
Injury time will last ’til they get another
Skippy McDonald WILL score today.
Will the Huns score 3 ,I doubt it.
offski
I just can’t see sevco losing today. It just depends on how many they score. An early ‘well red card or penalty would certainly help save Scottish football, over to you Craig Thomson.
I hope I’m wrong .
A message for Mr (head in the sand) keevins…..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZBT8CjbjhY
They’re staying down!
#LindaLovelaceSunday
Who are the guilty Tims who’ve been lumping on the Huns to qualify?
Odds cut from 6/1 to 9/2 overnight.