Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.
This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business. Not in Scotland. In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares. Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.
It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability. Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?
It’s a cop out. I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table. Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult. Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands. Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.
Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.
For that, it’s worth it.
Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights. Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s. Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then. They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.
Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg. Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs? The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals. It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.
Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.
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Knew him when he wiz a midgy raker :))
HH
mild mannered Pedro delgado
Their riggling gives me strength
Anyway I don’t have the football channels
This is my only vice.
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Thats it mate, there’s only so much Turk/German football i can watch, so when i can listen in and have a giggle at them that’ll do for me.
cowiebhoy
19:29 on 29 May, 2015
BT
Appointment confirmed for Thurs, Dr Carter at Ross Hall ?
Know anything of him ?
Hail Hail
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Aye. He does a grand vasectomy Ya Bawbag!
Allegedly!
StillIntactCSC
HH jamesgang
I am pleased Blatter has been re-elected as it will probably result in big withdrawals from FIFA and the World Cup and massive changes will follow.
If he had lost, FIFA would probably have carried on as normal under a Blatter puppet.
Interesting times ahead.
As a footnote, I see Stewart Regan has threatened a Scotland boycott of the World Cup. I thought Scotland had been boycotting World Cups since 2002.
Burgas Hoops…Fine..if you listen to clyde coz you find it funny, we gave different scenses of Humour…Thats allowed…
Cowiebhoy
He deals with sports injuries in rugby mostly
No text received Wednesday
have
Mighty Tim, fantastic news.
Disgraceful legislation.
HT, timing can be so effective.
Seep Blatter is an innocent man!
HH.
Aye but Sepp Blatter is as corrupt as Campbell:-)
Good ole Seep!
cowiebhoy
Profile:
Mr Carter’s surgical training was based primarily in the West of Scotland but also involved a period of training in Japan to acquire specific clinical and technical training in the management of upper GI cancers. He has been a tertiary level specialist in Upper GI disease for over 15 years and is now the most experienced of three pancreatic surgeons providing the specialist pancreatic service for the West of Scotland population. He is the past Honorary Secretary of the Pancreatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland and the Secretary of the Pancreatic Section of the British Society of Gastroenterology. He has an International reputation in his field with over 50 invited International lectures and clinical demonstrations in the last 10 years.
His clinical interests involve the surgical and endoscopic (ERCP) management of gallstone disease, dyspepsia including the surgical management of reflux oesophagitis. He has over 15 years experience in the field of bariatric surgery.
BGX
19:39 on
29 May, 2015
Burgas Hoops…Fine..if you listen to clyde coz you find it funny, we gave different scenses of Humour…Thats allowed…
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Agreed :)
Burgas hoops
Wrong one mate
Orthopaedic surgeon at Nuffield eh
16 Rosds –
I am cool with that. I wasn’t demanding his arrest and imprisonment.
Cowiebhoy, Carter’s nickname at his previous hospital was the butcher. The one before that he was referred to as Dr Mengalie.
No idea why.
C4..Do You support the rail strike next week..answer..Eh Eh Eh…Do you support the Steel Strike thats been called..answer…Eh Eh Eh…who was asked both questions..A..david cameron or B..a potential leader of the ( dont laugh) labour party..
MightyTim–that’s brilliant news. That it should not have occurred in the first place seems to go over the heads of the cops. If your son is in Belfast tonight tell him to get up to Casement Park—there’ll be several drinks waiting for him.
Captain Mainwaring – “Don’t Panic”
His only crime was to look after his friends, and they have rewarded his loyalty with another resounding endorsement.
HH.
Hi bhoys and ghirls a wee appeal my daughter Elizabeth a long time season ticket holder since our return from hampden, and now has a son and daughter, season ticket holders, is running the Edinburgh marathon next Sunday 31/5/2015 on behalf of Celtic charity, the Celtic foundation. She has been training very hard and is looking forward to the run. If anyone would like to donate to the cause this is her address.
https://mydonate.bt.com/fundraisers/elizabethgemmell1
A wee aside Elizabeth’s birthday is on 6th November 1987 exactly one hundred years to the day, brother Walfrid, formed Celtic, a born Celt.
No runs or anything before Sunday, she is doing light gym work. Hail Hail
‘It serves the other teams right for whit they did to us’
‘Celtic will have more to lose than us, wait till you see their star players leave’
‘The real loser will be Lawell, can you imagine how beelin’ he will be’
‘ Scottish football just won’t be the same, it is essentially dependent on us, there is a danger if we don’t go up, it may never recover from this’
‘Ah know we are no ready, no one needs to tell me that, but see them, they are Shyte. They are no great shakes, and their stadium is empty, by the way. They will be begin us next year to get promotion’
‘Aye, see last year, last year they got knocked out of Europe 3 times, what was all that all about? I think and I believe we will get the goals on Sunday, and see them, they will no like it, cause see King, King knows what’s required, King knows the score, King knows fitba, he knows who we need and what to do’
‘When, just when will they get sick of it, after 10 in a row? 20? The whole thing is a joke by the way. When will they be playing to 5000? Will it dawn on them them?
Edinburgh airport
Departures
Head down, buried in my iPad, trying no take guffaw.
Phils having a Ball…Llambias and Leech aint been paid..and the pr firm for sevco,Well ( see what i did there) they aint been paid Either…its Hottin up at the doome dome..
Few quick responses.
BT, for what it’s worth, I agree about the songs not being sectarian (anti Protestant).
Burgas, I was asked about Irish Republican songs.
Those of you who are fearful about hatred towards Catholics should stay well away from The Guardian. The reader comments are beyond vitriolic.
heroes are forever
19:52 on 29 May, 2015
Struck a cord…
Will contribute & especially as I share 6th Nov
But 1960
Bedt of luck to her
Best..
Hope you have all been watching the brilliant Danish TV series namely 1864? If yes, anybody know when the next episode is on BBC?
Captain Beefheart
That’s where the problem comes from
Neganon,
Careful. You might need a lawyer. That comment about the MSP was unwise.
;)))
burgas hoops
19:45 on 29 May, 2015
BGX
19:39 on
29 May, 2015
Burgas Hoops…Fine..if you listen to clyde coz you find it funny, we gave different scenses of Humour…Thats allowed…
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Agreed :)
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Haha…ditto.
BT,
The old bigotry is fading away. The OO are loathed or laughed at by much of Scotland.
The bigotry from progressives is flourishing. They have more influence than a couple of zombie chumps from Lanarkshire.
Apologies Bhoys, brother popped in there
Right Big J, he is in training to remove fitted beanies from ones napper :-)
BT, that’s the one. Trauma and Orthapedic
Does your number finish 1688 ? Or is that the old one ?
Right where was I with my rant :-)
Oh Aye FTSFA & OBAFA
Apparently Jon Daly has left Sevco, with his 32 pieces of silver. Hope twas worth it Jon, ya big shyte.
Captain beefheart…Just wondering what you mean by progressive…Just asking…
Neganon2 –
Mhairi Black MP is a Catholic.
bgx
I have also been informed they owe someone who done work for them £500k, can’t go into detail, but came from a very good source
Hail Hail
mighty tim supporting wee oscar
Three reasons to be cheerful…
The Mullet’s Charges got gubbed by being pitted against a Club going 129 years against his fledgling 3 year old Club.
Sean found NOT GUILTY of an offence under an unjust Act
Sean passes his Exams on one of his happiest days of his life.
A happy and proud day for the MT family.
Soon it will be four in a row when he gets Wed.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!