Running late today…….
The Celtic Supporters Association are in their seventh decade so have seen it all before, albeit the matters the felt necessary to comment on today are uncommon in modern times. After their AGM yesterday they issued the following statement:
“We do not condone in any circumstances the letting off of smoke devices of any kind, the dangers to the health of our supporters should at all times be paramount in everybody’s thoughts. We have quite a number of members who are of the senior variety, and the dangers to anyone with respiratory problems are greatly increased by coming into contact with smoke.
We also do not condone the use of pyrotechnics of any kind; again the dangers to our own supporter’s health should be paramount at all times.
Finally, the deliberate damaging of property within any stadium is not acceptable, and leaves a stain on the great reputation of the Celtic Support. The seats that were broken at Fir Park was blatant vandalism; nothing else.”
I share Association president Joe O’Rourke’s hope that this is a watershed moment for the support, but most of us know at least one person who thrives on chaos and notoriety. We need as many strong voices to step forward as possible, someone with experience of putting genies back in bottles would be handy too.
Many thanks to those who participated in our Cinc Senti’s auction, which closed yesterday, raising £102 for charity. More on where the money will be going later in the week……..
“Yes those were the days, when you didn’t reach for your laptop, phone or tablet or whatever to see what you had missed in terms of things Celtic. Those days when, unless you were from east Kilbride, you had no idea what the eather was like there— and to be honest, you had absolutely no interest in finding out!….. Back to the days when you had never heard of Kojo and his way of speaking or writing, when no one had ever Brattbakkedinanager, would recognise a cash strapped scrofulous hillbilly outside Beverley Hills, and the only Battered Bunnet you knew of belonged to your Grandad.”
From ” To Everyone on Celtic Quick News– This is about what you have all done” — Page 6 of the 2014 CQN Annual
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67heaven … i am neil lennon, supporting wee oscar..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
16:07 on 9 December, 2013
Just wondering mate thought I had missed it, says it all really about our board quick off the mark when it’s Celtic supporters not so quick with sevco and Ajax supporters HH
JohnnyClash said:
“I’m sorry for the GBers who don’t feel the need to bring Bobby Sands banners to football matches to prove their Irish identity.”
Is that why they brought the banner? Silly me. I thought it was to point out the whimsical nature of labelling according to beliefs.
JJ
Barcelona in the Nou Camp on Wednesday night in the Champions League.
Playing fantastic football, scoring loads of goals.
Financially secure, future looking good.
Really looking forward to supporting my team over the next few months as I reckon we will continue to improve.
Great to be a Celtic fan.
Don’t want to get involved in the busted seats debate but if anyone trashed the ole Gazebo I wouldn’t be looking to welcome them back.
EC67
IthoughtitwasallaboutsupportingthecelticCSC
PR disaster from the club as their actions fit with the MSM agenda of demonising the GB. We have now given them ammunition to grossly over exaggerate the size of the trouble on Friday- look at SKY’s headlines- giving the impression that hundreds of Celtic fans were involved in wrecking seats
Plus ca change
It would seem, you are “guilty, unless you prove your innocence” as opposed to “innocent until proven guilty”.
skyisalandfill c’mon wee Oscar
15:55 on 9 December, 2013
Big Nan
Petition signed.
Shame about the club statement.
Inevitable however.
HH
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Many thanks and yes a shame about the club statement which as you say seemed inevitable.
Was it a measured response as a reaction to vandalism from a few or part of a bigger struggle between the PLC Board and the Celtic fans who dared have a view different from the Board’s?
Whatever, if the Board were intent on smashing the Green Brigade (as Ass Chief Constable Campbell Corrigan wanted to do) there might come a day when they regret that they got their way in this.
No one would condone the scenes from Friday but they have been blown out of all proportion and it seems to me that the board in banning 128 (guilty till proven innocent) and rellocating another 250 are guilty of carrying out collective punishment, and that is Draconian and counter to the ethos of our club.
I don’t agree with many of the stands the GB take but I see them as being, in the main, a vibrant, creative, group who add much to the atmosphere at Celtic Park.
I am conscious that their biggest detractors are in the police, the media and these people do not have Celtic’s best interests at heart.
The Green Brigade et al
128 suspended.
Let’s call it collateral damage!
Mark my words bhoys.
The GB is only the start, the powers that be have won a major battle today.
It will escalate now, just you watch, and it will not stop till they ban the wearing of the green.
Mark my words.
HH
hun skelper
16:07 on 9 December, 2013
‘Ban the lot of them, is there anybody left to ban ?’
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I’m just coming to that.
As we all know Celtic are very pro active in protecting the Club’s intellectual property rights. Such rights are important and anyone who tries to undermine them is in effect engaging in economic warfare against the Club.
One way the Club attempts to defend its IP rights is by banning photography within the stadium.
Yet it’s now commonplace to see people, many people, blithely snapping away, even taking video footage without a thought for the consequences.
Ban them. Every one of them.
The rules are there for a reason. We can’t be selective about which ones to enforce according to our own particular prejudices.
Break the rules, get banned. It’s as simple as that.
The 128 have been suspended not banned, and I’m assuming that’s so they’ve got time to contact the club and present a reason why that suspension should be lifted before the Hibs game.
How it feels to score – for Celtic
Philbhoy
Just to backtrack on my tetchy post, should have made it more conversant, apologies.
TBB
I know folk who were there on Friday. To a man they tell me the stewards said ‘sit anywhere’ and ‘find a seat’.
The GB banner comes out and the wee neds of the day gather round it. Hide in the crowd, do what neds do.
The issue for me here is blame and broad brushes. I am not in the GB, have no need to defend them or motive to do so. The guy I knew who was hasn’t been for some time. What I do know is before you get to pick out 1, let alone 128, you have a series of other issues to look at.
Over 2 years or more the GB have faced severe provocation. The apparent radicalisation has been at least in part reactionary. This is a tangent to the original raison d’etre, it attracts another sort of following.
Stewarding is a joke. It was virtually non existent on Friday, and no arrests on the night. I would propose that any group could be infiltrated by ne’er do wells on any gathering without proper stewarding. That is also the case at Celtic Park. Section 111 has migrants from elsewhere most weeks that do not have tickets for that section. That came to a head at the last ban. However this is where the lesser known fact comes out that in fact the GB offered to steward it themselves, but that was rejected. As it stood there was no way a season ticket holder in that section with no authority could remove a migrant, and the official stewards did hee-haw.
The overcrowding uncontrolled is a massive part of the issue here. It’s a cracking stick to beat them with, and I believe unfairly.
The vandalism was absolutely abhorrent. I don’t remember the GB ever denying any other of their ‘controversial’ actions, so why reject out of hand this denial – which was laced with acceptance of their part in the ned ‘association’.
The game’s up for the GB, that’s clear. I’m just a bit fed up with the spin and vilification for events to justify a pre-disposed aim.
I look forward to alcohol advertising being removed from our jersey long before banners of justice and freedom from our stands.
HH
Eurochamps67
16:13 on 9 December, 2013
‘Barcelona in the Nou Camp on Wednesday night in the Champions League.’
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In a meaningless game because we’re already out of the competition.
Ernie lynch
A paragon of virtue moi? Far from it, I have been known to use a few adjectives during a game, god I used to even nip down to the toilet and have a wee smoke, now I don’t smoke, but sometimes I run of a wee bit with the mouth , I know, I know who da thought that, and yes sometimes my language is potty mouf, and if I was papped out for it then I could not have a leg to stand on, rules are rules, so you prob. Want to blame me now for the carry on at the weekend, is that where this is going I take it? Maybe I’ll get a three game ban like Lenny, for calling someone a f?!@&£g f#%^y
An Tearmann
been waiting 4 years to be called a cream bun. …now away and enjoy your indignation
Hooliganism pure and simple.
So we’ve had it compared to internment. Now it’s the wearing of the green. What next?
Some people playing games in their minds here.
Tony –
I think he fancies you.
Jeezy peeps,
What a pile of hysteria and hyperbole on here. A few pairs of adult sized nappies needed asap.
I was ‘banned’ a few years back for giving my ticket to another bus member who acted like a tit at an away ground.
Two phone calls later I was at our next home game which was roughly 4 or 5 days after receipt of ‘banning’ letter.
Chill the f oot ladies.
Not for nothing is he called hun SKELPER.
Oooo matron!
quonno
16:20 on
9 December, 2013
Hooliganism pure and simple.
No one is arguing otherwise. The debate is concerned with who the culprits actually were. As far as I can see, it was NOT the GB . Unfortunately, they are being blamed by rather gullible, easily influenced Celtic supporters.
JJ
ernie lynch
16:17 on
9 December, 2013
Let’s take your swearing example. Even the club have a tiny respect for the idea of due process, so I doubt anybody would ever wake up to a letter saying “You’re barred cause we know you were swearing at the last home game”.
So I’m assuming that in the course of the game somebody’s tapped you on the should (or perhaps more aggressively) asked you to tone it down.Which presumably you don’t. They’ve then gone to a steward, who has repeated the request. You fail to adhere. At which point you’re close to getting ejected from the game. Then you are.
The point is you’ll have had several requests before being ejected occurs, and that may have to happen on a couple of occasions before you’re actually barred for that type of behaviour.
My point being is that you actually need to work quite hard to get barred for breaking some of the rules.
I’d like to think that if my language was so bad I was asked to reign it in, I’d have the decency to do so.
During my schooldays, if there was any disruption in the class, of a significant level, if the perpetrators weren’t identified, the whole class suffered.
Them was the rules. May have changed since.
The GB has been on a collision course with the club since the day they set up in CP.
I said so at the time.
My reasoning was that you could not have a section of the support with an agenda that differed from the club’s Mission Statement.
Whether you agree with the club’s MS or not is irrelevent.
By disobeying the club’s policies, they indulged in anarchy.
Even though Friday ‘s disgrace was caused by some other entity, the principle of anarchy had already taken root.
Celtic’s mistake was in originally trying to accommodate a group who have no intention of accepting club or UEFA rules; rules, which if broken, bring punishment to the club.
Nobody who has a favourite pub would consider acting against the management’s rules, for fear of the consequences ,I.e. “yer barred”.
Simple. Support Celtic and keep your agenda for the ballot box.
No agenda, but Celtic’s agenda.
rather smile in truth thanstir the bile
Ernie-it’s marginally better than playing Raith Rovers in The Ramsdens.£1 mil up for grabs,a chance for all involved to learn ,players and management,in the best Club competion in the world.
Back to back fantastic performances that we cant celebrate because of the neds. What a mess, bet you the nutters – the ones who actually caused the damaged – are laughing their faces off, they’ll see all of this as a victory, “what a stooshie, all over the media and were the guys that done it!” Well done ya bunch of….better not say it on here. My sympathy is 100% with the club who are in an awful cant win position.
The scoddish msm have never needed a reason to put the boot into the Bhoys – especially given the glowing reputation the Club has in relation to the horrible reputation of the former klub most of them support.
As far as media management goes Jackanory and his wee storytellers will have been out in force driving the agenda way from the panto farce at “The Crumbling Edmiston Empire”
-” Look away a’body! ”
Our Club is on a hiding to nothing, always has been. The support need to minimise the oportunity our opponents have to stick it to us.
SmarterThanThe AverageBear? CSC
Jungle jim –
The GB have already admitted it was them. Are you being fooled by the “they were with us but weren’t members” line? If it wasn’t the GB, then why did they say “Sorry. It won’t happen again?”
I know son, it sounds preposterous but really if you don’t believe me check it out; there was a time when we actually used to be part of the atmosphere in the Celtic Soccer Stadium. Sure, that was when there was a working class support and they used to attend the soccer matches out in the cold the wind and the rain. OK, we weren’t actually part of it but we could enjoy it nonetheless if we opened the lounge window just a wee bit to get some of the noise, the feel, the togetherness of it all… CELTIC………CELTIC……..CELTIC……. GLASGOW’S GREEN AND WHITE…………. Booming out from what used to be 111, you know where the Celtic Media Centre is now. Well that used to be a sea of colour and noise famous the world over. Admittedly this was in the days before Wee Eck S and Rich Davy C………
Aye, I suppose I miss that side of it but don’t quote or repeat what I said or we might have our CSS Privilege Cards taken away from us – for good this time – Celtic Soccer Stadium may well be a soulless place nowadays but some would say a cold body next to you is better than none and ‘piped lounge musak’ improves the ambienece eh! So keep that card safe son and don’t voice any opinion that might see us losing our membership eh!
To think that ‘the Friday Night Fir Park fix-up’ could have such ramifications….. You know, don’t you that some of the underground rebels still believe it was part of a long-term strategy to homogenise the then support.
To what aim you ask? I told you son don’t question, just enjoy the privilege!
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Sanitised Celtic with no European football about to die a death. The morons and neds need to be banned but there were not 378 neds at Fir Park.
I was on the verge of chucking it after our last two European capitulations and the boards total lack of ambition in the transfer market.
This has made my mind up.
Thomthethim
You nailed it there, very well put, I doff my cap to you sir.
In the interest of accuracy I would just like to point out that the Beverley Hillbillies, unlike their Gondwanaland brethren, were far from cash strapped.
bankiebhoy1
16:31 on 9 December, 2013
The scoddish msm have never needed a reason to put the boot into the Bhoys – especially given the glowing reputation the Club has in relation to the horrible reputation of the former klub most of them support.
As far as media management goes Jackanory and his wee storytellers will have been out in force driving the agenda way from the panto farce at “The Crumbling Edmiston Empire”
-” Look away a’body! ”
Our Club is on a hiding to nothing, always has been. The support need to minimise the oportunity our opponents have to stick it to us.
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Easier said than done Bankiebhoy.
Friday night match with a young team high on drink/substances and the euphoria of a sparkling display with a handful of goals was always going to be problematical.
Throw in a few agendas and the mix is a potent one.
SmarterThanThe AverageBear? CSC
Shares in Celtic Football club reach a 12 month high, as Sevco shares hit new all time *a whole year and a half* low.
How sad Ernie!
For me all Celtic games have meaning.
I look forward to seeing if our recent form can in some way be replicated against superior opposition? Will our defence look as good when faced with a world class forward line? Can our midfielders match the best in the business? Can we play in the CL game without resorting to Sammi and/ or wee Jamesie? Are Stokesy and Teemu able to look effective at that level?
But as you say Ernie, meaningless as we are already out of the competition, no point in practising for future tilts at the big time.
EC67
Bada @1630
It’ll also play Its part in seeing who will top the group.
Well that’s the first one away in protest.
This still has a way to go. There are 4 full days until the Hibs game. I’m sure the numbers ‘banned’ will be significantly reduced by kick off.
There should not have been the knee jerk hysteria which followed Friday night and there should be none now.
TGSC,
Sailing On….