There is an unusually sombre tempo head of tomorrow’s Champions League last 16 tie, a consequences of the 0-3 reversal at home three weeks ago and the general sentiment around Scottish football this week, but this match is an excellent test for both manager and playing squad.
We are a Champions League team again with aspirations to achieve at this level next season. Having finally overcome the hoodoo of never having won away from home in the competition, we must use occasions like tomorrow to continue our growth in the competition.
We defended our 18-yard line in the Camp Nou and almost got away with a point. The plan was wrong in Lisbon, where a talented Benfica controlled midfield and recorded a narrow win, but the win against Spartak in Moscow was deserved.
Celtic might not be able to qualify for the quarter finals but they can win the match tomorrow; this is an achievable objective which would sweeten the inevitable medicine.
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some people have laughed at the sevco fans for being gullible and believing everything they are told by their leaders and they must button up at the back, well what would you call supporters who are willing to accept cheating and worse who are paying for the previlage of being cheated?
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS:
Mate, I think it’s going to take a club to go to the Court of Arbitration in Sport with this. Left to the people here, who, understandably, in the face of the shrieking gale and in the crosshairs of the bullet senders and bomb makers, and with the peculiarly “Scottish understanding” we see applied to so much of this we’re never going to get restitution here.
Take it outside the country. Where it should have been in the beginning. The SPL no longer wants to act. The SFA are compromised at the highest level. This is a scandal with no parallel anywhere in sport.
Left here in Scotland, it will never resolve itself. LNS verdict has left us the worst of all possible worlds. Rangers are, now and forever, branded cheats, but with no sanctions and a media treating them as if they’ve won the historical lesson will never be learned and they will never move on. We will never move on, as we’re the one’s who’ve been done up.
This needs to be resolved outside Scotland. And that means one of our clubs, or one of the clubs in Europe, needs to take this to CAS.
BRTH.
Belli ?
Acted for the Rolling Stones when they arranged to play at Altamont . He helped to deal with some of the mess that ensued . He makes an appearance in the Gimme Shelter film.
thomthethim
I agree, and there is a shadow cast over the game, somewhat ironically that is stretching all the way to Turin.
A boycott however, is never unanimous in most cases, and I fear it would apportion the Celtic fans, who would be torn between supporting Celtic in hugely important games, and demonstrating to the SFA that we know they are prejudiced.
I’d prefer the club to take the lead in the coming days rather than for example the CSA backing a boycott, and the GB saying no. Celtic are unique and our unlikely allies may disappear like tears in the rain.
The Celtic statement was welcome but minimalist, and when Celtic have Juventus out of the way, I’d expect directorship, coming from Celtic Park, let them earn the astronomical salaries, initiate historical groundbreaking guidance for Celtic.
What precisely the club whether in conjunction with other SPL sides or not, have in store for the future of Celtic the club and it’s supporters in light of another being found guilty of a generation of cheating, without appropriate sanction?
Interesting times.
I was thinking(dangerous) I no longer buy and enjoy reading a paper.I no longer listen to football chat shows.I hardly ever watch a football match on the TV (except Celtic games)I have stopped going to football games (even Celtics).I hate this wee boring bigoted country
An Inter supporting pal said to me this morning – “If you win 4-1 you will qualify on away goals!”
HH!!
We play all season long in some of the darkest corners of Scotland to be in with a chance of playing in the Champions League.
Here we are tomorrow at the big table where we want to be, and we surely must give our 100% support to the Bhoys in what will be a tough match.
To qualify is probably beyond us, but a win or even a draw would mean that we finish the campaign on a positive note, and continue to build up our profile in Europe.
This season has been the first in many that we can honestly say we have competed with the best. Lenny and the Bhoys must take great credit from that.
We are already talking about next season’s quaifier’s.
Surely it’s not all about raking in the CL cash?
Gardez la Foi
Rieperman and philbhoy,
I love your optimism.;)
Hx2
JAMES FORREST
I made a similar point to one of our regulars on the phone the other day,and as I said on hearing the verdict,I feel like the wee undertaker in THE GODFATHER who foolishly put his faith in justice.
I effin hate being done over and do not bear grudges lightly.
For me,like that undertaker,I want whatever means are necessary used in pursuit of what is right.
Just wanted to wish my little sis, confirmed lurker and occaisional poster under Paradise Found if I recall correctly, Hoopy and Happy Birthday today.
Winning Captains!!!1
Are you accusing me of being– dare I say it— Verbose?
That Nimmo Smith piece was nowhere near 10,000 words—– 3,906 to be precise!
Had I wanted to use 10,000 words I would have done so- had I chosen to use but two I would have done so– and “Funny” and “Handshake” would have been neither.
See the subsequent article on Belli– yes he did appear in Gimme Shelter— he uses one of the words often enough! lol
Paddy playing for U20’s this afternoon.
BMCUW
Bonasera the undertaker in ‘The Godfather’ – “I want them to suffer as I have suffered.”
Seems fair to me!
HH!!
Whatever happened to the dogooder bear Edward never seen him on here for a while.Please note I did not refer to him as a hun so as not to annoy his friends on here.
In a modern world were people still cannot get enough to eat, medicine nad clean water this story makes me want to vomit.
‘Saudi Arabia’s Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal has accused Forbes magazine of understating his wealth.
In its 2013 list of the world’s richest people, Forbes estimated Prince Alwaleed’s net worth at $20bn (£13bn), putting him in 26th place.
According to reports, the prince estimates his net worth to be $29.6bn, which would put him in the top 10.’
am i the only one who see’s juventus match as really unimportant considering what has been deemed as official cheating?the only thing about being in italy to play juventus now
should be our international highlighting of this scandal a perfect oppurtunity with all the media from abroad there, whats wrong with highlighting what uefa did to sion publically
and then stating do fifa rules not apply in scotland? now that would show our leadership
have what it takes to fight this, just a thought.
BMCUW
Amerigo Bonasera *wee undertaker*
Vito Corleone CSC
Beaten by Tallybhoy *appropriately*
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN
It could have been ten times as long and still held my attention.
Pay no attention to the snipers and keep those,erm,big nuggets coming.
Philistines the lorrathem….
A nice analogy mate.
We’ve tried going through “proper channels”. At the top of those “channels” is a guy who was involved in the fraud, aided and abetted by an old enemy of our club.
Which brings me to another sunny point …
Part of this is our own damned fault, you know. Part of it is our fault for not using our position, and our influence, as the biggest club in the land, to clean out the ranks of these people, people who will never play it straight.
The guy in charge of registrations was involved in the CADETE SCANDAL for Gods sake … why did our club ever allow him to remain in post?
We are inadvertently the architects of our misery at times.
Don Corleone wouldn’t have needed telling this …. If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.
Why we let these people continue to operate at the top of the game really baffles me.
Paddy + Rami Gershon both playing for the U-20’s against Aberdeen at Firhill at the moment.
TIMJIM
Strangely,he ain’t been on since I left him a glass of his favourite tipple behind the bar of his favourite pub on January-though as you might expect he thanked me for it on here.
I wonder if that would work with TSD?
bsr
Well done for remembering Bonasera’s christian name.
It had escaped me.
Can remember most of the others ‘tho.
HH!!
Thomthetim
Agree 100% but fear nothing will happen and many will simply have had enough of the corrupt charade that is Scottish football and drift away to watch or take part in other sports.
Sad that Ranger’s lowest moments will probably be the genesis of our decline and they will pass us on the way down in the not too distant future assisted as they will surely be by the Masons in black and the regulatory body (no laughing at the back).
Could Shareholders/Fans Group use a type of “Class Action” ,and approach the Court for Arbitration in Sport?
Clutchingatstrawscsc
Vado fuori.
That’s Italian for ‘off oot’.
HH!!
Tally
“Tell Mike it was only business. I always liked him.”
― Salvatore Tessio
Couple of Fleetwood Mac programmes on Sky Arts just now.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan
Certainly not a snipper of your contributions. The one from earlier today was certainly a great read. On the subject of 3906 words (or less) -have you done your homework?
Folly Folly, BSR,
Thanks gents, for taking the time to read and reply to my post.
I, as a non Scottish resident and now non attending fan, am always reluctant to suggest anyone staying away from a particular game.
My preferred option would be for the SPL clubs to have acted in this matter.
However, it appears that they have been neutered by the nature of the appeals process, i.e. in house SFA, who, I contend, have always been the real villains of the piece.
They have contrived to facilitate the mess that the game is in.
Therefore, like last year, only the active supporters can act in a meaningful way.
Apart from banners in Turin tomorrow, which would be a great idea:-
WHY SION – NOT RANGERS
what other powers do the fans have?
The money in their pockets seems to me to be all.
In a situation as serious as this, I don’t accept that the team need our backing at Hampden for the semi.
Our team should be inspired by such an action.
Alternatives?
Don’t attend Celtic Park, because the Board did nothing? Who will that hurt?
Walk away and don’t renew SBs? That’s going to happen for many if there is no challenge to the SFA.
Withdrawing attendance for the semi, will have the least fiancial impact on Celtic as the combined semi gates are split between the four clubs, after the SFA get their cut.
I look on it as an “Ask not what your club can do for you, but what you can do for your club”, opportunity.
Otherwise, let’s stay in our comfortable victim role. It’s what we’re used to.
Tallybhoy
Leave the debt. Take the titles.
Clemenzaloyal
Just a wee thought…
Does anybody think that, well I’m saying this with the benefit of hindsight….that, maybe, just maybe…the Celtic board have taken the decision to – look the other way and, not go down the road of an appeal…based on the opinion of Stewart Reagan(which was swept under the carpet) about – the social disorder issue that would probably have been the order of the day had – LNS took the tainted titles ?
I mean…we’re talking about hun-savages on a scale that would make Manchester 08 look like handbags – on the streets of the west of Scotland were we(Celtic fans) would be outnumbered by 16-1(I think) ?
We’re talking about the possible loss of a Celtic supporter or, supporters lives here.
If, the Celtic Board by taking this action / inaction has or will prevent the above coming to pass then, I for one, would understand this position.
P.S. I’m under the impression that – UEFA know that the huns are band of savages and, will not – under any circumstances take them on. Notice how the huns have escaped with little more than – slaps on the wrists for their misdemeanors on the continent.
Can’t reply to anybody just now – laters
HH
Off oot
Paul67 et al
Never commented on the first match against Juve, such was my disappoinment at a result that gave us little or no chance of progressing. And the wrestling of course. Not sure offhand but I think that 0-3 defeat is possibly our worst ever defeat in Europe, at Celtic Park. Certainly up there anyhow. And to later hear Neil Lennon describe our start to the game as “brilliant” only compounded the pain. Losing a goal after three minutes, at any level of football, is not and never will be brilliant. Of course we could still have taken something from the game, but the record shows, we didn’t. Even, so tomorrow is our twelfth night in Europe this season, and should we somehow conjure up a win, then eight wins, three defeats and one draw would represent a terrific effort by all concerned.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
Everything in life can be explained through the Godfather. An amazing piece of work. The first two films were outstanding.
LB
Still disgusted over the whole LNS fiasco and inaction by us or the rest of the SPL.
Two things the club should announce immediately after the Juve game:
1) A demand that Ogilvie be removed from position at the SFA
2) That Celtic are scratching from this season’s Scottish Cup. ( Ideally they would be supported by others but, hey, I accept we live in the real world)
These are tokens but would somehow make me feel the board are actually listening to the fans.
Thomthetim,
I agree totally with the sentiments you expressed in your post.
I am extremely reluctant to support a boycott of any football matches at this stage though.
In my view we need to put the LNS thing to one side and go after the real culprits who you have rightly identified as the SFA. CO, SR et al must be removed from office before confidence in the impartiality and competence of the ruling body can be restored.
I would like to see fans of all clubs lobby their boards to move for a vote of no confidence in the SFA. Further action could be co-ordinated through a petition to Supporters Direct Scotland or http://www.scottishfans.org/
The ship may have sailed as regards the LNS enquiry but we can make sure it never happens again by going for the jugular at the SFA.
http://anunlevelplayingfield.wordpress.com/
thomthetim@ 15 45 .
” Why Sion Not Rangers ”
Cynical me thinks that such a banner would see Celtic being punished by UEFA for bringing the game into disrepute .
Sion’s crime was to challenge UEFA ‘s authority and to tell the world —— Here — have a look at this lot . UEFA appear to be perfectly content to allow the SFA to manage Scottish football.
Dont think ive ever felt so down about Celtic,football and Scottish football in particular . The final humiliation is that our club just meekly accept the LNS / SFA collusion and then we have Ogilvie making a draw . I know you are trying to put positive spins on your article Paul and I doff my cap to you but Im sure that there must be a lot of people like me who just think its not worth the grief………..the rebels havent won ……….the cheats have :@(