Tallinn or Gibraltar in Champions League for Celtic

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Brendan Rodgers will start Celtic’s Champions League trail against Flora Tallin, from Estonia, or Lincoln Red Imps, from Gibraltar, in the tournament’s second qualifying round.

Flora, who are seeded against Lincoln Red Imps, are midseason, but went out in the first qualifying round a year ago to Rabotnicki, from Macedonia (who reached the play-off round before losing narrowly to Russians, Rubin Kazan).

Red Imps won the big (cough) Iberian derby last year when they eliminated Santa Coloma from Andorra, before crashing to Erik Sviatchenko’s Midtjylland.

Neither are the British Isles-based tie Brendan Rodgers would have preferred, travelling arrangements will cost an extra day’s training, but there were far more arduous opponents in the draw.

Games take place on 12/13th July and 19/20th July. The away tie is scheduled first – but you know the drill, don’t book flights until Uefa have ratified match arrangements.

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  1. clogher celt on

    BMCUWPs,

     

     

    If Thursday goes wrong,I’ll need to remember my passport!…

     

     

    And your Visa (not the credit card). We’ll just wave the Europeans through and make the Brits stand in line to get in:))

     

     

    Tomthetim,

     

     

    Loved Souness nearly referring to Ireland as ‘we’ last night on the tele:))

  2. channelislandcelt on

    Sad news about Charlie Nicholas Brother Stevie .

     

    That family have had it tough in recent times .

     

    Stevie stayed in Jersey for a spell in the ’90s .

     

    God Rest Him .

     

    HH

  3. What is the Stars on

    Clogher Celt

     

     

    Mick Lawlor

     

    Very well know player in League of Ireland circles.As was his father Kit Lawlor who played for Drumcondra

     

    Several of his brothers played league of Ireland also.

     

    Mick played for Shamrock Rovers in the 60s when they won the FAI 6 times on the trot

     

    Great player at that level and was capped for Ireland several times

     

    He is at the Euros with the Irish Squad as some sort of coach/kit man ( not sure) but you will see him on the bench with the backroom staff.

     

    I Played against him in the twilight of his career when he played amateur veterans football.And although he was probably 10 years older than me I couldn’t get near him….and I am brilliant by the way

  4. clogher celt on

    WITs,

     

     

    Thanks for that. I didn’t know he was involved with the squad, great to read that he is involved. I used to meet him when I worked in O’Connell Street a few years ago. Thanks for that.

  5. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    TTT,

     

    I did read it it’s exactly the same sentiment as last year and the players haven changed much either, so the snide remark stands.

     

    Great idea, let’s stick to a failed strategy.

  6. Clogher

     

    Been in Dundalk many a time, remember a testimonial for Barry Kehoe? Few Celts on show and Liam Brady as well I think. Few beers in the fane? Afterwords

  7. What is the Stars on

    Celtic Dawn

     

     

    I remember Barry Keogh,lovely lad,played for Dundalk in the mid to late 80s.Smashing player who could have went on to a higher level.Tragically died of cancer in his 20s

  8. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    Clogher Celt,

     

     

    As the days pass, GS is becoming more indoctrinated in the joys of being an Ireland supporter.

     

     

    He was in a particularly relaxed mode last night.

     

    I think they were delighted at having the better of the two games and recognising the honest endeavour and passion of the Albanian team.

     

     

    I made the mistake of watching the first half of the France game, though why would I expect to see an exciting game involving Switzerland!

     

     

    Sorry Starry.

  9. What is the Stars on

    Thomthethim

     

     

    Re the “souness conversion”

     

     

    I wonder are there any celtic minded people involved in the TV3 production for the Euros who might be showing him the error of his ways !!!

     

    Hmmm

  10. Thomthetim,

     

     

    So let me get this right. You are saying that celtic shouldnt bring in any players until we are through (or not) the CL qualifers?

     

     

    Really?

     

     

    I think it is fab how short our memories are. We had an appalling season which has only just ended. Sure some of that is down to the manager. We have got rid of guys like tony stokes and have butone striker.

     

     

    Apparntly we have loads more money this year, loads more season tickets and the old firm return apparantly we are going to get £10M extra a year for the return of the racism.

     

     

    But we shouldnt spend anything in case we dont qualify for the CL.

     

     

    Ah we just dont or wont learn will we.

     

     

    Oh dear.

  11. clogher celt on

    Thomthetim,

     

     

    I think they said they have NFL and GS tonight??

     

    I’m not sure. Good viewing.

     

     

    Till later all.

  12. OldTim and ThunderRoad – As both eluded to earlier the “Crimplene Brigade” allegedly 25,000+ descending on Falkirk on Saturday, Calander Park to bear the brunt.

     

    A special BMCUWP “Rain Dance” would be nice!!

     

     

    HH

  13. UEFA won’t investigate ‘Resolution 12′ Rangers Euro licence claims

     

    Grant Russell

     

    Grant Russell

     

    13 mins ago

     

     

    The governing body won’t pursue allegations because of the club’s three-year ban from Europe.

     

     

    End of the road: UEFA say Rangers won’t be probed over unpaid tax bill.

     

    End of the road: UEFA say Rangers won’t be probed over unpaid tax bill. SNS Group

     

    UEFA will not investigate allegations that Rangers were incorrectly awarded a licence to play in European competition in the 2011/12 season.

     

     

    A statement to STV draws a line under the matter from the governing body’s point of view, saying Rangers’ three-year exclusion from playing in Europe after going into liquidation was the major factor in a case not being pursued.

     

     

    A group of Celtic shareholders have actively campaigned for a review of the decision for several years and recently contacted the governing body for clarification as part of an ongoing campaign referred to as Resolution 12.

     

     

    Their questions centred on whether the Ibrox side fully disclosed the details of an unpaid £2.8m tax bill to HM Revenue and Customs, commonly known as the “wee tax case”, ahead of their participation in the Champions League five years ago.

     

     

    UEFA rules demand participants in the Champions and Europa Leagues declare to them any “overdue payables” to the taxman, with details on whether there is a commitment to repay amounts, or a dispute over any bill.

     

     

    Failure to disclose accurate information during what is referred to as the “monitoring period” can result in sanctions.

     

     

    A UEFA spokesperson told STV: “As a consequence of decisions taken against Rangers FC in 2012 as well as the administration of the club and the events and measures that followed (including the club being ineligible to apply for a licence to participate in UEFA competitions for three seasons), there is no need for UEFA to investigate this matter any further since the club was not granted a licence to participate in the 2012/13 UEFA club competitions, the club entered the fourth tier of Scottish football and it was not able to play in UEFA competitions for the next three years in any event.”

     

     

    STV asked the governing body for further clarification on whether an investigation took place, and on whether they were satisfied the correct procedure was followed. UEFA replied that they had no further comment to make.

     

     

    As a precedent, clubs who fail to declare or repay overdue amounts to the tax authorities have typically been banned from UEFA from playing in Europe for one season in any of the following three years after a sanction is imposed.

     

     

    Rangers lost to Malmo in the third qualifying round of the 2011/12 UEFA Champions League.

     

    Rangers lost to Malmo in the third qualifying round of the 2011/12 UEFA Champions League. SNS Group

     

    The role of UEFA

     

    UEFA ask clubs to inform them by June 30 each year whether they have any outstanding amounts due to the tax authorities. This is known as the monitoring process.

     

     

    Owing money does not automatically result in a sanction. Money is not termed by the governing body as “overdue” if an agreement is in place between the club and tax authorities to make payment at a later date, or if a legal dispute over the validity of any bill is ongoing.

     

     

    Rangers had to send a declaration to UEFA on June 30, 2011 stating the true position on the status of the bill.

     

     

    The Celtic shareholders behind the complaint to UEFA allege that the status of the bill changed shortly before that deadline. The clarity they sought from the governing body was over whether the relevant conditions were met.

     

     

    The onus to investigate falls on UEFA’s Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) and they hold the power to impose disciplinary measures if a club fails to fulfil the monitoring requirements.

     

     

    Any investigation by the CFCB which leads to a guilty verdict has a limited scope of sanctions available to it, ranging from a warning to a maximum fine of €100,000. Clubs can also reach a settlement agreement with the CFCB.

     

     

    The body also has the power to refer any case to the more-powerful Adjudicatory Chamber. They have a wider range of punishments, including disqualification from the UEFA competition in question or a ban on qualification in future years.

     

     

    Many clubs have reached settlement agreements in the past, or had their cases referred to the chamber, as a result of non-compliance with the monitoring process.

     

     

    In the 2013/14 season, Serbian side FC Crvena Zvezda were found to have submitted misleading information with regards to overdue payables to employees. They were banned from participation in the 2014/15 UEFA Champions League.

     

     

    Other clubs who accurately reported overdue payables to UEFA during the years 2013 to 2015 were also banned from future participation for one season after failing to then pay the amounts back in full.

     

     

    The role of the Scottish FA

     

    The Scottish FA effectively act as a sponsor for any team entering European competition, ensuring clubs comply with licensing criteria handed down by UEFA.

     

     

    A deadline of March 31 is imposed for clubs to submit the relevant facts to them, before UEFA take over.

     

     

    Chief executive Stewart Regan, speaking to STV earlier this month, said that questions on the Scottish FA’s actions had been answered, that the requisitioners had been satisfied with the response and any further questions should be directed at UEFA.

     

     

    He said: “There has been a reply. We’ve been in dialogue with Celtic Football Club on the matter.

     

     

    “My understanding is that the requisitioners have accepted that they have no issues with the granting of the licence to Rangers in 2011.”

     

     

     

    Regan continued: “What they [the requisitioners] do have an issue with is the monitoring period immediately following that licence in March 2011.

     

     

    “Our position on that is that we have complied with UEFA requirements in the period immediately following March 2011 and clearly if there is still an issue with the requisitioners then that’s for them to take up with UEFA.

     

     

    “We’ve said if they do that then we’ll fully cooperate and comply with any requests for information from UEFA and we’ve provided details at UEFA for the requisitioners to make contact.

     

     

    “So we believe that the matter has been communicated to those involved and they will deal with it as they see fit.”

  14. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    NEG2

     

     

    I gave the reasons for my thoughts.

     

     

    1. Different manager ,with a reputation.

     

    2. Availability of suitable players, considering the Euros.

     

    3. Quality of player available at this time.

     

    4. Possible higher standard on qualification.

     

    6. Lack of time to acclimatise new men.

     

    5. Time to assess what he keeps and who he needs to move on.

     

     

    If it is just about bringing in players, no matter who, then, tell me, who and where are they coming from.

     

     

    I am not saying that we should sign anyone, merely the other factors that come into play when we have such a narrow window and our ability to sign players of proven ability,who can walk into the first team virtually straight off the plane.

     

     

    it’s called the Real World.

  15. “A UEFA spokesperson told STV: “As a consequence of decisions taken against Rangers FC in 2012 as well as the administration of the club and the events and measures that followed (including the club being ineligible to apply for a licence to participate in UEFA competitions for three seasons), there is no need for UEFA to investigate this matter any further since the club was not granted a licence to participate in the 2012/13 UEFA club competitions, the club entered the fourth tier of Scottish football and it was not able to play in UEFA competitions for the next three years in any event.”

     

     

     

    This comment has absolutely nothing to do with the question asked in Res 12, why is he commenting sole on matters after the season in question.

     

     

    Is it the view of UEFA that the dirty cheating’ stinking’ huns have been punished enough??

  16. So, if this is factual news, then it all boils down to a judicial review by shareholders v the SFA?

     

     

    HH

  17. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    UEFA have completely ignored the collateral damage of clubs being denied a Euro place, due to the illegal issue of the licence.

     

     

    They are hiding behind the Appalling Vista ruse, as the ramifications of their actions are too far reaching.

     

     

    They will act similarly if the improper registrations scam ever gets revisited, as this would involve European and International teams,

  18. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Guys,

     

    A couple of wee points of interest here.

     

     

    First off, please wait our the statement.

     

     

    At no time did we ask for UEFA to investigate rangers, we are seeking investigation of the SFA’s administration of the licensing process, quite different from what the STV and the UEFA statements are talking about.

     

     

    You will see from the statement that UEFA have provided more information that contradicts the SFA’s previous statements and claims.

  19. “As a consequence of decisions taken against Rangers FC in 2012 as well as the administration of the club and the events and measures that followed (including the club being ineligible to apply for a licence to participate in UEFA competitions for three seasons), there is no need for UEFA to investigate this matter any further since the club was not granted a licence to participate in the 2012/13 UEFA club competitions, the club entered the fourth tier of Scottish football and it was not able to play in UEFA competitions for the next three years in any event.”

     

     

     

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    Seems to cement the notion of the same club narrative so far as UEFA are concerned.

     

     

    Maybe Celtic will have something to say about it all.

     

     

    Maybe.

  20. ERNIE LYNCH on 20TH JUNE 2016 3:32 PM

     

     

    What was the reason that the club were ineligible to apply for a European license for 3 seasons?

  21. Afternoon all.Took my Dad and his wee sister, a mere stripling at 89, to see the new Parkhead. At the Park, my aunt asked who some of the players were on the walls. When I pointed out Jimmy McCrory, she uttered “Of course it is. He looks just like his sister.” His sister and her family lived above them in Springfield Road.

  22. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Starry..,

     

    It actually looks like they have seen the reply from UEFA and have removed some of the more meaty enjoyable bits :)

     

     

    The statement is with BRTH and I don’t want to be a spoiler, we were discussing how to publish the statement but it looks like the STV are trying to force our hand here.

  23. UEFA have just issued a lets “Muddy the Water” statement. Wonder who put them up to that? Por cierto

  24. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Strange that Res12 was never important enough for publicity until they thought it was all over.

  25. CANAMALAR

     

     

    Grant standing by that he has printed the full statement por cierto.

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