Tax Man cometh, Scottish Gov front after OBA protests

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I know there’s been widespread criticism of many in the media for not confronting former Rangers EBT beneficiaries, now working alongside ‘proper’ journalists, for not holding ex-players to account for the enormous sums of money diverted from the tax man. I’ve spoken to a few journos who have tried to make headway on this story but been denied comment, access, or even contact details from colleagues.

The defensive line on not discussing this subject was originally “My EBT was legal and is a private finance matter”. This changed last year when these EBTs were found to have broken tax laws at appeal, when the line was changed to “This is a private finance matter which is subject to appeal”.

All fair enough. A consequence of the original legal status and ongoing appeals is that no one has broken ranks on those responsible for imposing this state of affairs on a football club, the tax man, or individual players.

The Daily Record today report HMRC are pursuing players for the payment of tax on EBTs. My understanding is that many (if not all) players received a letter from the “Club” indemnifying them from tax. Watch how quickly you’re told “Not this club, it was the club that died”.

You’re going to need patience for this one, it could have years to run, but I expect ranks will break eventually.

You can read subtext, can’t you? The Times report today that Celtic and the SPFL have written to the Scottish Government telling them to keep their noses out of the running of football clubs. This was after the Government responded to pressure from Celtic to repeal the Offensive Behaviour at Football’ Act by hitting them on a subject they knew would cause conflict with some fan groups.

Push on the Offensive Behaviour Act and watch what happens with the Fan on the Board issue which you enjoy so much but seemed to have lost momentum.

Politics is a dirty business. All this to deflect criticism of an ill-conceived, ineffective, bad law, instead of just repealing it, which will happen as soon as we no longer have a majority government. Anyway, Don’t Blame Me…….

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  1. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    And maybe someone should have a look at the penalty and red cards, which favour a certain team.

     

    Highly suspicious and probably statistically impossible.

     

    Yet nothing is said.

     

    Its blatant cheating.

     

     

    HH

  2. glendalystonsils on

    BRTH

     

     

    There are also penalties and interest to consider.

     

     

    That’ll be a job for superWaghorn, then….

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 31ST MARCH 2016 12:38 PM

     

     

     

    Hard to read that FC United article. So disappointing to see the people running the club becoming so power mad.

     

     

    Corruption isn’t confined to PLC’s. Just look at “more than a club” FC Barcelona

     

     

    The Neymar transfer, the Mascherano tax conviction and so on….

  4. Looks like Wolfsburg are looking to release Lord Nicklas Bendtner

     

     

    Maybe we should sign him to keep CKR and Carlton Cole company. We could always use another oncepromisingplayerwhoclearlydidn’tcutitbecauseofacrappyattitude on the bench!

  5. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Could the letter to recipients of EBT’s had an offer of no penalties if you pay up now

  6. Geordie Munro on

    “And maybe someone should have a look at the penalty and red cards, which favour a certain team.”

     

     

    The green Man.

     

     

    Aye…

     

     

    Penalties for hearts and cards against Aberdeen.

     

     

    Mibbery csc

  7. The Green Man

     

     

    Prosecutions and banning is too good for them.

     

     

    A good stiff kick in the arse is what they’re needing if you ask me.

     

     

    Hail Hail,

     

    KevinBhoy.

  8. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    BRT & H

     

    Thanks for your very informative posts of the last few days. Very helpful and much appreciated.

     

    JJ

  9. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    Kevinbhoy

     

    My mother used to talk of someone who said, ” Hanging`s too good for them A good slap in the face is what they need,”

     

     

    JJ

  10. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Geordie Munro

     

     

    I refer to the fantastical penalty and red card stats of sevco.

     

    And the conduct of the brotherhood of referees.

     

    Or is that a figment of my imagination?

     

    You know what…i was right the first time, it stinks.

     

     

    HH

  11. JJ

     

     

     

     

    I know, it’s a brilliant saying for me. The thought behind the sentiment being that if you hung them it would be over too quick for them, and they deserve worse punishment…

  12. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    TBB

     

    I have only just seen your original comment ( Honestly. That is not another J.Titor comment). There was me thinking I was being original! Drat!

     

     

    JJ

  13. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    KB

     

    Yes. Whether it was `too quick` or not I don`t know but the general feeling was that a hanging was nothing

     

    compared with a good slap. Brilliant

     

    I used to have an image of someone with a smile on his face at his good fortune……..whilst being being hanged!!

     

     

    JJ

  14. Geordie Munro on

    Tgm,

     

     

    Who? Never heard of them ;)

     

     

    The stats in our own league are quite telling too.

     

     

    HH

  15. The Resolute Mr Pastry on

    I sense a deal of backtracking on the part of the ‘kill the board’ and ‘hang Lawwell’ brigade, on the handling of Resolution 12.

     

     

    To many who hadn’t the nous to understand the intricacies of the issue, it became a convenient bandwagon to jump on if you wanted to have a ‘dig’ at Peter and/or the board.

     

     

    There are a number who post the same prejudiced and unfounded drivel, day after day on Resolution 12, who could not negotiate their way out of a dark close.

     

     

    Peter Lawwell and the board will continue to make decisions that they see are in the interests of Celtic and the VAST majority of its supporters – those on here who take issue,usually do so without scintilla of evidence and, in my opinion, are driven by predjudice, self-importance and an over-active imagination.

  16. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Geordie Munro

     

     

    I still cannot get my head round the fact, that members of secret fraternities are involved in refereeing.

     

    It is medieval.

     

    It would be funny if it wasnt so sinister.

     

    Dan Brown would be in his element.

     

    The crazed world of scoddish fitba….Bigots, Blazers, and Brogues:)

  17. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Pastry

     

    You dont know what your talking about, you don’t have a clue if it’s the clubs best interests but you’re damn sure he has his own best interests as ha primary concern.

  18. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Mr Pastry

     

     

    That wont wash….stop romanticising people who make millions from Celtic.

     

    Spare us the self-righteous lecture.

     

    Ive told you before….we will not worship at the altar of wealth.

     

     

    HH

  19. The Resolute Mr Pastry on 31st March 2016 2:17 pm

     

    “Peter Lawwell and the board will continue to make decisions that they see are in the interests of Celtic…”

     

     

    That’s exactly what he did when he “persuaded” the requisitioners to agree to the AGM 2013 adjournment of Resolution 12.

  20. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Kill ultra,

     

    More shite,

     

    The fact they wanted to kill Ivan’s vote against, that’s preheat happens now is it ?

  21. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Preheat, God knows how that was a suggested text

     

    NOT WHAT

  22. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on 31st March 2016 1:22 pm

     

     

     

    There is another aspect that has so far been avoided by the MSM and that is that the individual recipients of EBTs did not declare their true income on their annual tax returns which by the nature of their employment they would be obliged to complete. They fraudulently withheld their real income. There is no doubt about it. For some of them to suggest that they did not worry about salaries / tax / NIC etc is not a defence. The only person liable to ensure you pay the correct amount of tax is yourself. Each EBT recipient would have received a P60 from Rangers and they would see the amount of tax they paid. They would receive annual tax vouchers from investments and savings etc. Again this information would be used in their tax return. It is simple. Put in the amount of income you have received from all sources. Put in the amount of tax you have paid. Hector will let you know if you are due a refund or if you owe him some cash. These EBT recipients did not declare their total income.

     

     

    They are due to pay the underpaid amount + interest + a fine for fraudulently avoiding tax. No-one else. Not the old club, not the new club, not their financial adviser nor their agent. It is their personal responsibility.

     

     

    While I’m on a rant what really does my nut in is that the BBC, funded in the main by by taxpayers, continues to employ tax dodgers such as Dodds, Thompson and now Peter Lovenkrands. It really is a disgrace and one that will come back to bite them.

  23. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Terje Vigen,

     

    Excellent point :)

     

    If that’s the case, bang goes any early payment offers.

  24. So how many players do you think are so willing to maintain the same club myth that they won’t produce side letters that indemnify them from that tax?

  25. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    The Resolute MrPastry

     

    Whilst I agree that too many have been too hostile without sufficient information, I do not believe the style of your post is very helpful in encouraging those same people to reconsider.

     

     

    JJ

  26. CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 31ST MARCH 2016 2:32 PM

     

    “Kill ultra,

     

     

    More shite,

     

     

    The fact they wanted to kill Ivan’s vote against, that’s preheat happens now is it ?”

     

     

     

    I find your post almost unintelligible, apart from your use of faeces-centric abuse, seemingly a trait you share with certain fellow requisitioners when attempting to defend the indefensible.

  27. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Oh and when I smell shite I call it for what it is, is no a fixation, it is an appropriate metaphor

  28. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BRTH 122

     

     

    Ronald Waterreus is on record that he did not want to sign a contract which was EBT-dependent.

     

     

    He and his agent were told that it was not a choice,but a condition of signing.

  29. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Mr Pastry

     

     

    You still there?

     

    Lets hear you then.

     

    Identity Crisis again?

  30. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    No long ago I’d have invited you to wipe your mouth with toilet paper

  31. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    THEGREENMAN 233

     

     

    Also,a Protestant minister taking charge of Celtic v Rangers,etc.

     

     

    Can you imagine a Catholic priest officiating at one?

     

     

    Me neither.

  32. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Its a case for Dan Brown.

     

    He goes to Edinburgh, and discovers a secret cavern.

     

    Inside, he finds John Knox, 500 years old, and as fit as a fiddle, staring into a crystal ball, and mumbling…Kaffliks..Kafflicks.

     

    Dont want to give away the plot…but at the end,….theres an earthquake, and ipox is sucked down into Hell….where they belong:).

     

     

    HH

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