I know what you were thinking; Zenden, like Ljungberg, but older. We need experience in the squad but with Commons, Ledley, Samaras and McCourt all able to stake a claim for the left midfield position this is the last place we need to bring in a 35-year-old. Best of luck to the player but I’m pleased he has left Glasgow.
Today’s Sun report that a senior policeman witnessed a crime being committed but instead of doing what he is paid to do, he reported the incident to Uefa. You have to wonder about the veracity of the crime. The officer will do well to explain his actions if they amount to anything more than a few lines in a newspaper.
We are all partisan in this city but Justice is blind to such emotions and taxpayers (that’s you and me) do not sponsor lazy gossips.
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The difference between a hun and a Celt (apart from the looks thing, obviously), I think, is that we don’t hate them per se, but rather what they stand for; they hate us for what we are. And man o man, some of them really hate us. This should be kept in mind when they meet their Hunaloo.
No compromises Lawyell.
Snake Plissken says:
12 November, 2011 at 14:52
That’s very interesting.
I remember one or other of Rangers’ assaults on continental Europe – I think it was Villareal. At the first suggestion of trouble the phone lines to Sportssound were jammed. These eye-witnesses in Spain told the usual police brutality, heavy-handedness story.
To underline their credibility at least three of the dozen or so callers stressed that they were serving officers with Strathclyde police. That’s a high proportion I thought. And, how many were at Manchester?
Like Snake I know some very fine people in the police but I do feel their recruitment policies should be open to scrutiny
2010 Never Again
The de-ranged on FF are stating the following below. I think it has to be clarified rather quickly who actually done the reporting and what exactly they reported.
I wonder why the sun didn’t name the senior police officer responsible and apparently they can on FF?
And I’ll say it again. Why if an offence was committed didn’t the police act accordingly. The smell from this is overpowering.
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Re: uefa probe celtic over hate songs
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Originally Posted by mully10
Match commander for that game was Eddie Smith confirmed by somebody I know in the police. It’s certainly ironic that the complaint is coming from one of their own so they cannot complain about masonic conspiracies. I am also told the chants were their choruses of oo ah up the ra. They can say they are political all they want, last I heard the ra is a proscribed terrorist organisation, so its not acceptable as political, it would be like singing oo ah up the al quaeda…..
The referee?
I thought his job in the Police was training of match commanders.
fritzsong says:
12 November, 2011 at 15:20
Their recruitment policy is open to scrutiny. Controversial I know but they are not prejudice to an individual’s creed and that I know to be fact. However, once individuals get in that is a different story…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Mort: 12 November, 2011 at 15:17
No. The three or four people involved are all ex-employees of a club on the South Coast of England.
James Forrest
I read your earlier submission. And I thought it a episode of ill conceived hangwringing.
You’re obviously a lad that knows his way around an adverb, but… why get all “foostered” & tell the world of your intentions? Do it, or don’t. To be, or not to be.
But, here’s where the sugar kicks in…
I left Scotland as a 23 year old… Full of hopes, dreams & positivity. Grew. Learned. Loved. Embraced.
Your hypothetical leaving would only scar your future. Dampen you & others. Fill you will defeat. I ran away. Because that’s why you left right? Not an ideal, nor a dream, nor a passion… a fear.
I’ve admired your writing, and even used your arguments as my own… but your on the wrong thought tracks my learned friend.
Love in Celtic
tbdJ
Is it only Me??
But..
Read this.. Then , we’ll Talk:
“Celtic, dinnae want , Bolo”
Hmmmmm
Look. Ah didnae want , Bolo.. or Campbell, or the Guy we goat fae the U.S.
and .. why didnae Ah want any of those Geriatrics.. well..
Mebbe , it wiz because..
THEY UR .. GERIATRICS!
It is food fur wonder.. why .. Lenny.. wid evah consider tae Bring in an auld Has Bin..
into oor line-up..
and expect any help fae any of them.
These Guys ,are deid ,but the wullnae Lie Doon..
Yep, some of the ideas that Lenny and his Crack team of Helpers
come up wi.. in order tae Help oor Strugglin’ Team..
Are a Crock of.. Tommyrot!
Noo, if Lenny, brought in Mair Youngsters..and gied them a Chance..
THAT .. tae ME.. wid show the Lenny and His Minions wur Thinkin’
AHEID…
Ah dinnae see any reason, whitsoevah.. that Lenny.. couldnae
Gie Wan or two or Three o’ the Promising Youngsters that we Noo
hiv in oor Stable.
Furget.. bringing in Paddy or Sammi.. as a Sub.. in the Dying Minutes..
Those Two guys hiv shown us whit they kin Contribute..
We need tae find oot whit some of Oor Younsters kin Contribute..
Right?
Right.
Lenny, could Gradually, bleed in a Young Promising Youngster, in .in any game , where we wur Comfortably
Aheid..and dae that FREQUENTLY, and Well ordered Manner!
Sadly , these Kids.. are Suffering fae the Catch 22, Syndrome..
Sure,,they Need Experience..everybuddy know that… but… well, ye know how the Catch 22 goes?
Lenny, get with the Program… start thinking The Right Wey..
and stoap awe this nonsense of trying tae Resurrect the Careers
of Creaky Colonel Blimps.
Maks Sense Tae me.
Kojo
with
Uefa are quoted as confirming the receipt of the complaint and the investigation.
Questions to answer
-What songs were being sung (allegedly)?
-What was sectarian about them?
-What precedent has been set by an “on duty” senior police officeracting in this way?
-Was the police officer merely offended by the song or did he submit clear evidence of scetarianism?
-Does Uefa recognize the difference between Offensive and Sectarian singing?
-Do we recognize the difference between songs that offend us and songs that are sectarian?
-Was the police officer acting under his own initiative or under instructions from above?
-Was there political interference to conveniently ensure that Celtic fans who are campaigning against being unfairly criminlaized by proposed legislation, were implicated in sectarian singing accusations?
-Will the police officer be identified and subjected to the same scrutiny as the agency and staff who correctly identified sectarian singing by Rangers fans?
-Why do any Celtic fans bother with the Sun, when it seeks to exploit Armistice Day by isolating Celtic and it’s fans as outsiders in this way?
-Is this why Celtic FC decided to make much more of a fuss this year over Armistice Day, than I can ever recall? On the club’s own website we had a lengthy article about all the Celts who fought and died during WW1 and then a picture of the whole youth squad and coaches standing in silence at the appointed hour. Did the club decide to retaliate in advance of this Uefa complaint story breaking?
-How many of us hope that the move to the Dutch league is not just a fanciful notion?
HH
RWE CSC (vacationing)
Ooh Ah Samaras is a perfectly legitimate chant. It’s the huns trying to make mischief by bringing the IRA into it.
Sad to hear a bunch of thugs ruined the FAC meeting by forcing people to leave.
I have to laugh reading about burberried up huns making remarks about the wearing of poppies when a. none of those shitebags would last two minutes in the army and b. the club they support refused to pay its taxes to help the troops.
You couldn’t take an torch to their rednecks.
To Kitalba at this time…
Darling by Jackie Kay
You might forget the exact sound of her voice,
Or how her face looked when sleeping.
You might forget the sound of her quiet weeping
Curled into the shape of a half moon,
When smaller than her self, she seemed already to be leaving
Before she left, when the blossom was on the trees
And the sun was out, and all seemed good in the world.
I held her hand and sang a song from when I was a girl –
Heil Ya Ho Boys, Let her go Boys
And when I stopped singing she had slipped away,
Already a slip of a girl again, skipping off,
Her heart light, her face almost smiling.
And what I didn’t know, or couldn’t see then,
Was that she hadn’t really gone.
The dead don’t go till you do, loved ones.
The dead are still here holding our hands.
Matthews showing up well for Wales.I think Martin Bains house in France got a wee visit around the time ‘Arry got a tug.
Kojo@15.37
I must agree with you for once. The last and best “Auld Yin” we signed was by Jock Stein and that was one Pat Stanton….
IMO
Lennon n Mc….Mjallby: 12 November, 2011 at 15:40
“I have to laugh reading about burberried up huns making remarks about the wearing of poppies when a. none of those shitebags would last two minutes in the army and b. the club they support refused to pay its taxes to help the troops.”
Aye.
Given their unhealthy obsession with the British Armed Forces you would think more of these Huns would be keen to join up and see a bit of action.
Kitalba
I’m picking up that you are home but your mum passed away.
My condolences and also sorry fate conspired to stop us meeting this time. Lets hope another opportunity arises.
So the geniuses on Fascist Fascist know the match commander’s name.
How did they get it yet the Sun didn’t print it.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
They haven’t even said what was sung that caused the offence.
Was it Ooh Aah Up the Ra?
Was it Paddy McCourt’s Fenian Army?
Was it TBOTOB?
The Fields of Athenry?
Some clarity is required and if it is a Celtic supporting copper, why did he choose this particular game?
These chants have been heard before so why this match and why go running to UEFA rather than arrest those responsible?
It looks more and more as an attempt to give legitimacy to this Bill to attack Irish identity dressed up as Offensive behaviour which the gutter trash press keep on calling Sectarianism.
This is deliberate.
Do not doubt it for a second.
Steinreignedsupreme@15:48
Not for nothing are they more commonly known as the I Cant Fight crew
Auld Neil Lennon heid says:
12 November, 2011 at 15:48
Kitalba
I’m picking up that you are home but your mum passed away.
My condolences and also sorry fate conspired to stop us meeting this time. Lets hope another opportunity arises.
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2010 Never Again
Apologies if I’m wrong but I thought Estadio was meeting up with Kit some time today in Glasgow
The Village People had a hit with YMCA, a cover version has been released, it is called:
HMRC
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
PS: Neil Lennon does the introduction and prelude.
Snake, just to back up some of the point already made, there are loads of tims in the police, and while I support King Lubo’s comments that there is still def a core of orcs the situation is no where as bad as it used to be or the numbers so lopsided as you would have us believe.
Kojo
Rangers have won the important games and trophies in the last few seasons with geriatrics.
We need youth but for youth to develop they need quality experience around them. How are our young centre backs going to develop into top players? We might get lucky and they’ll develop all by themselves but I think you’ll find that the best players around today were developed alongside the best players of yesterday. Young players need talked through games and older, experiences pros can help them develop as people and athletes as well as footballers. I’m not talking Majstorivic here, I’m talking about someone who has played at the top and has that knowledge to pass down.
I firmly believe we have the players to win the league, and have had the past 3 seasons, but they’re not doing it. Not because they are not able but because the mentality and experience hasn’t been there.
good afternoon cqn
i was looking at photo of christine grahame MSP and having seen her on TV at Scottish Parliament dont you think with her hair she looks as if she has just got off a motorbike,just an observation
Ten Men Won The League: 12 November, 2011 at 15:51
“Not for nothing are they more commonly known as the I Cant Fight crew”
That’s why they go around in scores – intimidation by numbers.
Snake Plissken says:
12 November, 2011 at 15:49
So the geniuses on Fascist Fascist know the match commander’s name.
How did they get it yet the Sun didn’t print it.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
They haven’t even said what was sung that caused the offence.
Was it Ooh Aah Up the Ra?
Was it Paddy McCourt’s Fenian Army?
Was it TBOTOB?
The Fields of Athenry?
Some clarity is required and if it is a Celtic supporting copper, why did he choose this particular game?
These chants have been heard before so why this match and why go running to UEFA rather than arrest those responsible?
It looks more and more as an attempt to give legitimacy to this Bill to attack Irish identity dressed up as Offensive behaviour which the gutter trash press keep on calling Sectarianism.
This is deliberate.
Do not doubt it for a second.
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2010 Never Again
The Neanderthals on FF are naming Eddie Smith as the match commander on the night in question.
It would be interesting if one of the lesser lights did the reporting to UEFA.
Either way we need to know who it was and why no action was taken at the game if they are insisting an offence occurred.
According to BBC Scotland
S/clyde police did report offensive chants/ singing and investigations are ongoing.
Celtic know nothing yet, officially.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon says:
12 November, 2011 at 15:51
There are a few CQNers meeting Ktalba:
Blantyretim, CRC, Estadio for sure, not sure who else but they were meeting in O’Neill’s in Merchant City at 13:00
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Lennybhoy…Supporting Neil Lennon and CFC until I die says:
12 November, 2011 at 16:00
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon says:
12 November, 2011 at 15:51
There are a few CQNers meeting Ktalba:
Blantyretim, CRC, Estadio for sure, not sure who else but they were meeting in O’Neill’s in Merchant City at 13:00
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
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2010 Never Again
Cheers for that.
Auldheid was looking to catch up with Kit I hope he sees your post
McTall
I was only giving examples of my own experience. I never said it was apartheid (that would be silly and untrue), I just said it was top heavy in my experience.
There are many fine people in the police and in all professions but in recent times we’ve heard a lot about our fans being under attack by them if you believe the Green Brigade.
I am not offering absolute positions, just reflecting personal experience and trying to make sense of this development today. It may in fact be much better than when I was working there. I stopped working at Celtic park a long time ago so things may well have changed as you say.
I don’t like to deal in stereotypes but it does seem that there is still a core there based on the fans we read on these pages talking about heavy handedness at certain matches. It is certainly worth debating and discussing.
I did not mean to tar everyone with any kind of brush and I don’t think I did that.
Seems Celtic are surprised that this situation has went so far and they have not been approached by anyone surely they should have a right of reply by correspondence or at the UEFA meeting on december 8th.
I read an article in today’s Irish News in which a columnist, Patrick Murphy, gave his definition of Irish nationalism. He said, “Our New Nationalism believes in the principle of Irish unity but recognises the legitimacy of partition……”
Not for me I’m afraid. In fact the more I read the more I became alarmed about the ole BP!
Later I received an e-mail which cheered me up.
YOU KNOW YOU’RE FROM BELFAST WHEN….
1. You’re never cold but sometimes baltic.
2. The sight of 12-year-olds smoking is normal.
3. Castle Court – the traditional and best – is well better than that Victoria Square place.
4. You have owned a pair of Nike Air Max at some stage.
5. You will fight anyone who claims Callum Best’s Da wasn’t the best footballer EVER.
6. You’re passionate about an English or Scottish football team.
7. You know what real rain is like.
8. You think if you can’t see the Haarland and Wolfe cranes from your bedroom window your a culchie.
9. You remember when it was OK to smoke (anything) in the KFC in Corn Market.
10.So it is
11.You know what the word bull-root means.
12.You use the word ‘sweet’ and ‘powerful’ as a substitute for almost any adjective.
13.You are a half decent pool player and know your way around a snooker table.
14.You know what the words ‘space-cadet’ and ‘rocket’ really mean.
15.Your friends still call you by your childhood nickname.
16.You cringe when you hear someone from your city speak on national TV.
17.You’ve been told wha’ at least once in your life.
18.You know at least one person called Mackers.
19.Ballycastle/Waterfoot is your most frequented holiday destination.
20.Your Granny had a framed picture of the Pope or the Queen in the living room but never both.
21.Jim McDonald from Coronation Street and Eamon Holmes embarrass you.
21.The most common phrase used when you are slightly surprised at something is: ‘Here’s me wha!!??’
22.You can tell what religion somebody is by the side of the road they walk on.
23.You spend every Christmas Eve in your local and have the EXACT same conversations as the year before.
24.You are 27 married with 2 kids, a dog and have a mortgage of your own, but if you are home for Christmas and your parents are away for a couple of days you still think : ‘Sweet, free house!’
25.You have been to “Dempsey’s” for an 18th/16th birthday party
26.You can remember seeing soldiers walk down your street with guns in the middle of the day for no apparent reason
27.Lavery’s Middle Bar was the height of your teenage social life
28.You have purchased a single cigarette a some stage of your life (gis a No6)
29.A member of the opposite religion has been “after you”
30.You frequented a country park or wasteground each weekend to drink alchohol
31.When the police were in the vicinity some one always greeted them with the phrase “SS RUC”
32.You have used the phrase “will you see me/my mate”
33.You have shoplifted in Virgin Megastores/Woolworths (RIP)
34.You have been “de begged”
35.Your main arguement for anything you disagreed with was ‘That’s ballacks, so it is, ya windy licker!’.
36.The smell of slurry in the country makes you gag.
37.You still think people who live in the cities of Newry and Ballymena are culchies.
38.You didn’t do graffiti, you gave yourself a ‘mention on a wall’.
39.You remember Leisure World being the best toy shop in ‘the whole whil’ world’.
40.You have “pinged a windy” at some stage
41.Anyone who doesnt have a No1 back and sides is a “hippy”
42.You have at some stage shaved your head, leaving a stupid wee fringe at the front, which you may have dyed blonde for that distinctive belfast look
43.You know what a steeko is, and have a tendency to turn into one after a few beers
44.You have had a telling off from your da which began with the phrase ´Listen, sonny Jim…´
45.You have a mild addiction to pastie baps
46.You have at least once in your life considered sniffing glue
47.You have at least one ginger mate, who you call ´fanta pants´ at least three times a day
48.You know what a barrack buster is, and at one time this was your favourite carry-out
49.You have at some point slegged someone for wearing two-striper trackie bottoms
50.When some millie’s annoyed she says, “Oh mummy!! What are you like!!”
51.When your granny says “Yer arse is parsley!!!”
52.When you say in disgust at a lie yer mate told, “Aye rite. Dead on ball-bag!!”
53.When you’ve ordered drink after hours from ‘dial a drink’
54.Everyday you call at least 1 person a ‘melter’
55.You’ve said ‘i’m gonna get my big brooar for ye, or im gonna get my da for ye.”
56.You have walked to the top of the cavehill until you get to what is known as ‘napolean’s nose’
57.You have told the taximan to leave you to the wasteground where you learned to drink, ran away until you are a safe distance away to shout slurs at the taximan, such as
‘and here, if you try and chase me, my mates gona steal your car’
58.You have bought ‘5 lighters for a pound!’
59.You have been in some sort of riot
60.If you want to buy something semi-legal like a dope pipe or martial arts weapons (ninja star, nunchucks that sort of thing) you go to Smithfield market
I see STV and others are jumping on the Sun’s bandwagon about an alleged ‘offensive’ singing story.
Suppose it was only a matter of time before they tried to drag Celtic into their filthy sectarian mess, and when the new legislation
passes these claims will be frequent, all on the back of not being able to deal with the source and the already convicted.
God bless Glasgow Celtic and all it’s supporters.
It’s snowball time on shortbread re the UEFA complaint. This story is going to roll and roll until somebody becomes accountable be it CFC, the Rag which published it or the officer from SP who made the complaint (allegedly) Where are we going in this day and age when a team has been sectarian for over 110 years is able to escape its responsiblities and yet a team which embraces all creeds and religions is subjected to the whims of an individual. God help us if that is what we face in our “greatest small country” if we secede from the UK.
Saint John Doyle;14:37
Cheers for update on FAC meeting.
Whitehill School Dennistoun???
Trouble at meeting, meeting hi-jacked,well,well,well me thinks i could of told you so…
I hope that you all get home safe. Thanks for your efforts today. “We shall not be moved”.
Camlachiebhoy67 i am neil lennon
FansagainstcriminilisationCsc
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon says:
12 November, 2011 at 16:04
I texted Blantyretim to let him know, suggested that if one of them has Auldheid’s number they could text or phone him if they are still out…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Imatim
I think Auldheid is in Spain hence being unable to meet up with Kitalba.
Taxpayers (that’s you and me)… love it Paul!
camlachiebhoy67 I am Neil Lennon says:
12 November, 2011 at 16:09
How you doing mate? You never did give me shout to catch up with Colin and Denis.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!