We play plenty of no-win games, where all that can be achieved is an expected result and the avoidance of a humiliating loss, or draw. Tonight is different. Tonight we play the team who won the Europa League last year and who are significantly better resourced that Celtic. When Celtic entered this group, opposition from Spain, Italy and France ensured that expectations were never going to get wildly out of proportion. Indeed, after Sion, defeat in Madrid and a solitary point at home to Udinese, many expectations were of an early exit.
But, after four games, Celtic have it all to play for. Two solid performances against Rennes delivered four points and a big performance this evening would give Celtic an excellent chance of progressing to the business end of European football.
This is a test for a young and emerging Celtic team. Don’t underestimate them….
Read the unofficial Celtic v Atletico Madrid programme here.
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Emergency call…
just met oldtim.. he is without his ticket…
any spare bhoys?
forgot to mention stupid old git
Thank God Brother Walfrid never thought like some on here today. We are the club formed to help the poor and needy – long may it continue.
Jobo Baldie (15:10)…
E v e n i f w e w i n t o n i g h t , i f a l l t h e r e m a i n i n g
g r o u p g a m e s a r e w o n b y t h e h o m e t e a m s w e
w i l l n o t p r o g r e s s . S o b o t h A t l e t i c o a n d U d i n e s e
c a n a f f o r d t o l o s e t o n i g h t a n d s t i l l p r o g r e s s
b y e a c h w i n n i n g a t h o m e i n t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e
f i n a l m a t c h e s.
I f U d i n e s e d r a w b o t h t h e i r r e m a i n i n g m a t c h e s ,
w i t h t h e m a t c h a g a i n s t C e l t i c e n d i n g 0 – 0 , t h e n
U d i n e s e w i l l p r o g r e s s . I n t h i s c a s e A t l e t i c o
w i l l j o i n t h e m i n t h e n e x t r o u n d i f t h e y t o o
d r a w t h e i r r e m a i n i n g t w o g a m e s … o r b y b e a t i n g
R e n n e s a t h o m e s h o u l d C e l t i c w i n t o n i g h t b y
a s i n g l e g o a l ( o r b y t w o g o a l s s h o u l d A t l e t i c o
a l s o s c o r e ).
E v e n i f w e b e a t A t l e t i c o 3 – 0 a n d d r a w 2 – 2 i n
U d i n e ( g i v i n g u s t h e h e a d – t o – h e a d a d v a n t a g e
i n b o t h c a s e s ) , w e w o u l d s t i l l b e e l i m i n a t e d i f
b o t h t h o s e t e a m s b e a t R e n n e s i n t h e i r o t h e r
g a m e.
T h e o n l y s c e n a r i o t h a t w o u l d a b s o l u t e l y g u a r a n t e e
C e l t i c ’ s q u a l i f i c a t i o n i s t h a t w e w i n b o t h r e m a i n i n g
g a m e s . T h i s w o u l d a l s o g u a r a n t e e u s t o p s p o t
i n t h e g r o u p.
The Token Tim
Don’t delete; you are right.
Sorry Jobo, that didn’t paste onto the blog as expected… it’s even worse than before!
You’ll just have to work it out from my original post.
Basically what I am saying is: Win tonight and then again in Udine. Anything else and we are relying on favours from others.
Row Z.
I will not attempt an economics lesson. I point out only that if your premis holds we would still be living in caves.
Kojo. Im a fan of Jo Schumpeter and Hayek – Lehmans was allowed to destruct quite successfuly. Their are adequate protections to protect the little man.
Let the creative destruction begin.
Citiboy
You are very sure of the unaffordability of the pension schemes, considering that the Government has suspended valuations of my scheme (Scottish Teachers), thus preventing any sensible debate.
The recent pension proposals are simply a pay cut and have been rushed through in bad faith by the government, despite a very workable agreement reached in 2007 with my union.
Kojo at 15:06
You of course have right to express such opinion but in my world said opinion is extreme.
Apologies to those not interested. Promise no more but for those who are here are some other interesting quotes. Lincoln, JFK and many others are on record too foretelling the evil plans of a handful of dominant wealthy bankers.
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
– David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years… It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
– David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
– Henry Ford
Mc Nair.
can you point out anything that has been said by myself which contradicts the values of Brother Walfrid.
Heading out shortly to get the supporters bus to the game. Rain pouring it down here in Inverclyde,
I take it its the same in Glasgow and will not be getting any better?
C’mon the Celts, and beat this rotten mob tonight, would be a little bit of justice for the game in 74.
Hail Hail
Row Z
Pal.. Lehmans wiz important.. no question…
And.. Ah dare tae Say that
Lehmans Going tae the Wa…
Was Not A GOOD THING..
Fur it Opened the Floodgates..
In Ma Opinion..
Lehmans should have bin.. Helped. Financially Speaking..
It was a Big Mistake..and the Powers that be..Know that . Noo.
Kojo
The Token Tim says:
30 November, 2011 at 15:36
Don’t run away , I have a few things to say to you.
My last Submission shoulda Bin Directed at
CITIBHOY..
Sorry aboot that..
“Ready,when You are, C.B.!”
Kojo
BigChipsUK –
No, actually that’s much clearer!
Currently on another tab on The Celtic Viewer watching Celtic v Cologne from 1982. A full half hour of highlights featuring McStay, Collins, Mowbray, Galloway and Co.
Great stuff.
Jobo
Kojo
You’re right about the banks. However, without Gordon Brown’s success in persuading other EU leaders to take up his radical measures to recapitalize the banks and restore liquidity to the lending markets, there really would have been a catastrophe.
Palacio67
pretty wet here and I’m about two miles from the ground
out here in india,just noticed the game will be on tv(ten sports) at 1130.Hope to be very tired but happy at work tomorrow!
I`m hoping for two victories after the dust settles on today:-
Celtic to beat Atletico Madrid, avenge 1974 and take a big step toward securing European football post Christmas;
The Unions to secure a just settlement on pensions for the oridnary working people they represent and defeat the coalition of creeps, weasels and selfish runts that make up the UK Government.
Francis Maude is actually even more loathsome than Kyle Lafferty and Steven Naismith combined, quite a feat.
C`mon the Hoops!
I live in a cave, not everyone who lives in a cave is uneducated BTW.
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Mr.Z
My opinion..on this Subject…is a well thought oot wan..
One That is Based oan My Life Experiences..
Pal..
Like Ah said…
If ye are content tae Remain Mired in Poverty..,
then .. Ye Will remain Mired in Poverty..
And
You, Ma Friend.. Strike me as a Man who has
Had a
VERY WELL ORDERED LIFE..
Ye hiv AMBITION.. and Ye Want the Very Best For YOUR FAMILY..
And the reason that You are in The Financial Position which you are
This Day..
Is Because..
YOU MADE DAMN SURE that your Economic Health would Remain
Sound and.. well . Healthy.,.
And It would not be in the Healthy State that it is ,Today..
If..
You, Mr. Z..
Did not conduct your affairs with The Thought in Mind..
that You..
Did Not Want to Slip into Poverty..
Which. Could Happen..if
Ye .. well..
Like Ah Say..
ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN..
Kojo
yer pal..who likes ye aloater.
City Boy
Don’t haud back on my account (sic). Please proffer me a ‘lesson in economics’ anytime you feel able to leave yer penthouse and do so. Ye’ll need to be quick though. I’m off to the game shortly.
Citibhoy Shoulder to Shoulder with Neil Lennon says:
30 November, 2011 at 15:42
Mc Nair.
can you point out anything that has been said by myself which contradicts the values of Brother Walfrid.
I stopped reading your posts on the last article – you seem quite narcissistic!!!
Larsson80 15.42
thanks for the quotes – informative in content and attribution.
I refer you to my earlier post – Fascism and Socialism both have their roots in Zionism. John D Rockefeller was a big supporter of zionism as indeed was Cardinal Gibbons a keen supporter of unions.
I stand only for the primacy and freedom of the indivdual over the State
We’ve got a live one.
Public sector v private sector. Who gains from this tussle? Who is enjoying standing back and watching each side snipe at the other? Divide and conquer.
Remember, there’s one common denominator, we are all workers trying to make a living. We all pay tax and NIC (well, some of us do).
C’mon the hoops tonight.
City Boy
I should also have responded to yer dig re pension management. As you well know the Law prevents me managing my own pension (scheme). Whilst I could elect for a SIPP, I would need to engage even more ‘experts’ who could veto any of my preferences which seems rather counter intuitive (but a great wee earner for the industry hustlers). As you also well know employers (mainly) in either sector do not sign up to providing for those who believe they can hustle better than the hustlers.
Not the ole CQN Keynes vs Hayek debate!
On a European night too!!!
‘Mon The Hoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul67 et al
To defeat Athletico Madrid tonight would be a terrific achievement for Neil Lennon’s Celtic team, and it would also mean that we had gone undefeated in four European matches this season. It would also keep our group alive until the last match. I am confident we will score, we are a better team than when we played Fc. Sion, so by my reckoning a clean sheet will take us to victory. Come on the Hoops!
the glorious balance sheet says:
30 November, 2011 at 15:51
I`m hoping for two victories after the dust settles on today:-
Celtic to beat Atletico Madrid, avenge 1974 and take a big step toward securing European football post Christmas;
The Unions to secure a just settlement on pensions for the oridnary working people they represent and defeat the coalition of creeps, weasels and selfish runts that make up the UK Government.
Francis Maude is actually even more loathsome than Kyle Lafferty and Steven Naismith combined, quite a feat.
C`mon the Hoops!
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Yup, we have a coaltion government of multi-millionaires and they think they can get away with trying to say that when it comes to ‘cuts’ that we are all in it together. And don’t get me started about F@nny Alexander
is the match on anywhere
Jobo 1547
Think you mean 1992, 2 nil down from 1st leg and 3 nil home win?
Don’t think I ever got to see those goals, might check that out later.
george osbourne 4.5 m
david cameron 4m
nick clegg 1.5m
big phil 4k in the hole to the cu
but we er all in it to gether so thats alright
Mc Nair.
Thanks for your honesty if not your closed mind.
That you make a sweeping statement having limited recourse to the facts speaks for itself
Its not private V public.
It’s I’ve paid into my pension scheme for over 30 years.
Now I am getting towards retiral they say ” Haud oan, we want you to pay 50% more into the fund, work for another 3 years longer, then get less out than you had agreed to away back in 1979.”
Why? Because they spent our money unwisely.
It’s like The Huns don’t pay their taxes, buy players they cannae afford, win trophies they wouldn’t have been able to if said players weren’t signed but SPL dock CELTIC 10 points for the Hun going into administration.
Argue with that my fellow Celtic fans.
My dear,dear,dear,friend..Up over Goal
Sure, Ah am Right… Thanks.’
Noo..
Ah never mentioned…
How the Banks Goat intae the Mess which They Did..,
And the Reasons are.. as they say .. Manifest.. as to why they
messed up..
And..
Pal..
Let me tell you..
Wi Extreme.. Confidence…
That..
We shall get oota this Financial Maelstrom..
Eventually.. in Fact..
Next Year..Here, in the U.S. we will be making Giant Strides..
in Lowering the Unemployment Rate…
Things are oan the Upswing.. Here..
In Europe.there will be a Little mair Pain tae Go Thru.afore
It’s Financial Ship is Righted..
But..
It will Be.. Ah hiv Nae Doot…
A year after America regains some Financial Stability..
Europe shall.
Capitalism, causes Pain..
But.. It WOIKS…
Ye must hiv a Little Rain afore the Flooers wull Grow…
That’s Life Pal..
Ye hivtae Mak mistakes.. in order taee
well
STOAP MAKING THAE SAME WANS,again..
of Course..
There Wull by New Wans,in the Offing..
It is a Cycle..
Life, is A Cycle..
even
THE SUCCESSES and UNSUCCESSES of a FITBA TEAM..
Runs in .. Cycles..
Ye canny avoid.. well..
Cycles..
Cycles, ur Whit Makes the World Go Roon…
And.. Ye canny argue wit THAT.
Right?
Kojo
yer pal… Who likes ye mair and mair.
bigphil47 at 16:01
Yes
Mort