I was a bit annoyed at BT’s halftime analysis which suggested Celtic were more than fortunate to be level at that stage. Salzburg had just enjoyed their best 15 minute period of the game, but, from beginning to end, Celtic’s performance was a textbook lesson on how to play away from home in Europe. We took our chances and drew our defensive line well in front of our box. This is how it’s done.
Were you as comfortable as I was during the final minutes last night?
Having watched the performance against Aberdeen on Saturday, when we bossed the game but were penned back when, with two debutants and a returning Scott Brown in the team, the legs faded in the last 30 minutes, I expected the same to happen last night.
Instead, Scott’s goal arrived on 60 minutes, which infused Celtic legs with adrenalin. This was the crucial moment of the game. We conceded that fabulous goal from Soriano during the final 30 minutes, but this was also our best period of the game. Wakaso (who is a player, b.t.w.) ran himself into the ground – literally. Brown, Johansen, Izaguirre and Ambrose all covered enormous areas of the pitch.
Instead of going through turmoil in the closing stages, we saw Salzburg drop deep, acknowledging the clear danger they could concede for a third time.
The one obvious question is, how did we pick Craig Gordon up for free?
Brand Britain
Brand Britain is damaged. Last night’s vote was a high water mark for independence, so far, but the demographic breakdown suggests support for change is strongest among the young. If the three major UK parties have any intention of maintaining the status quo they need to indulge in considerable Nation Building.
The football business in Britain is in the hands of two closed-shop cartels, one in England and Wales [controlled by the affluent], and one in Scotland [controlled by the unambitious]. This arrangement has disenfranchised Scottish football and drains our economy of tens of millions of pounds per year. It is a clear manifestation of second class status for Scotland and our economy, which is unacceptable for anyone who considers the UK to be one nation.
Politicians with an interest in pushing the buttons of the people, should use this time to call this arrangement out for what it is.
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Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They’re the finest team in Scotland, I’m sure you will agree,
We’ll never give up till we’ve won the cup and the scottish football
league.
They come from bonnie Scotland, they come from county Cork,
They come from dear old Donegal and even from New York,
From every street in Glasgow they proudly make their way,
To a place called dear old paradise and this is what they say.
Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They’re the finest team in Scotland, I’m sure you will agree,
We’ll never give up till we’ve won the cup and the scottish football
league.
There’s Fallon, Young and Gemmell who proudly wear the green,
There’s Clark, McNeill and Kennedy the best there;s ever been,
Jim Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, John Divers and John Hughes,
And sixty thousand Celtic fans who proudly shout the news.
Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They’re the finest team in Scotland, I’m sure you will agree,
We’ll never give up till we’ve won the cup and the scottish football
league.
More guff about a few hundred bone heads. We are lucky. Bone heads in other places do much worse. Way too much excitement about our thugs.
Tom
Tell me where and when I have ever said they are the same club
BT
Hopefully I don’t have the same dialogue with him as I have had with the last couple of ” pals” tohg introduced me to ;))))
My wee wager for today is Stefan Scepovic to score 2 or more 5/1 wae corals.
Let the people sing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&feature=related&v=zhkdy0AOpaM
Looking forward to the big game today
Kerry V Donegal
twentyfirstofmaynineteenseventynine
Here you go. I don’t know how to take this!!
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vmhan – ynwa wee oscar
11:40 on 21 September, 2014
G’day Celts
I’m not sure how the game will go today but decided to go for the better odds, 5-0 it is then :>)
On other related matters, 14:20 at Hamilton today- a wee horse jumped out at me, No 7 Dominic Cork at 7-2 .
Bet responsibly ✊
Oooohhh ya boo sucks playground insults.
Can I have raspberry
Haha, never had the pleasure of escorting a North Queens Cross lass home fae Clatty Pat’s. :)
tbj
shook hands at end of the night at least.
tom mclaughlin
I wouldn’t be attending but would let someone else take my ticket. My reason for not attending would nothing to do with the same club/new club issue. I know they are a new club and I don’t really care what logical gymnastics anyone else does to try and defy that fact.
I just wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the stadium or Glasgow city centre when we played them because they have the same fans as the old club.
The scenes at George Square confirmed that to me. These people are incredibly angry. They need to validate their “culture” and “identity” with a game against us. They won’t be interested in the result, they know they would probably be hammered. Their victory will be causing trouble, deepening divisions, singing their vile songs and rampaging through the streets to proclaim that they are the people.
I want no part in that. I’d rather spend time with my family, get out of Glasgow for the weekend and maybe watch it on the TV.
I have no problem with anyone who feels differently though and would happily let another Tim use my seat.
Some of us love the Hatefest.
Some of us loathe it.
I stopped going to them a long time ago & for many years gave away my season book to somebody who enjoyed the encounter.
I will NEVER again share space with this sorry section of my community.
67heaven … i am neil lennon ….the angels are with wee oscar in heaven.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
11:14 on 21 September, 2014
stringer bell
10:32 on 21 September, 2014
but, they’re deed …. how can you play a deed team ?? …… am getting fed up with all this shoite…….thank god this SEVCO mob are next for liquidation, then the orcs and their media won’t have any straws to cling to ….. it really is truly pathetic….and just so my position is clear …..any Celtic fans who want to enter any stadium where that shower of bigoted hooligans are assembled is a traitor, and ‘needs their heads looked’ ….let the hun establishment live the lie, but we don’t need to …….they have disgraced Scotland in every way possible, and need to be shunned by every right-thinking individual in this country….hail hail….
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I disagree mate.
For too long the ‘shun them’ approach has not worked.
It’s time to confront, highlight and pour scorn on all that these bigots represent.
Bournesoupe,
To the best of my knowledge, employees of DU have not been subjected to consistent intimidation, bullets or bombs. Perhaps that is why their cojones seem to be bigger.
It would be nice to see a lot more saltires at Celtic park from now on.
delaneys dunky
11:59 on 21 September, 2014
Can I have raspberry
Haha, never had the pleasure of escorting a North Queens Cross lass home fae Clatty Pat’s. :)
Usually you had no choice as they had nipped you ;-))
som mes que un club
Cheers mate, sounds like a fancy but I’ll stick a few quid on
HH
Just a few thoughts posted earlier on about the sectarianism endemic in the Scotland of todayand my just MY thoughts on role of the media in propagating it.
That sounds like the title of a PhD thesis. Joe Bradley anyone??
gearoid1998
10:36 on 20 September, 2014
Did something happen in George Sq last night?
Couldn’t have. Nothing in MSM about it!!!
Bankiebhoy1@8.05
Spot on. Deal with it as they always deal with it. The same way “The Troubles” have been reported over here from the outset.”Ones as bad as the other”, a plague on both their houses.
Much easier to deal with that than highlight the extent of the problem which would expose rampant, unfettered and systemic sectarianism which the establishment can turn on and off at will when it suits their purpose. If they expose it through their media then someone might demand that something is done about it which in turn will weaken it. Much better to deny theexistence of these dark forces as you never know when they might be needed again.
Marrakesh
That is why the Klan excesses are never reported in the way in which they deserve to be if Scottish society is to move on.
Teuchtar/ Henrik
Breithla shona duit.
snake plissken
Neil Lennon wanted a form of Rangers back.
Martin O’Neill would have been the same.
Thousands and thousands of Celtic men are the same.
Can I have raspberry
Obviously I wisnae their type. :(
an interesting read.
England beware: The Scots will punish us terribly if they think we’ve conned them… PETER HITCHENS returned to the home he tearfully left as a boy – and was filled with a powerful sense of foreboding…
By PETER HITCHENS
PUBLISHED: 23:17, 20 September 2014 | UPDATED: 08:11, 21 September 2014
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Unlike most Englishmen, I am lucky enough to have lived in Scotland. Better still, I did so as a small and impressionable child who has ever afterwards been comforted and reassured by Scottish voices and moved by Scottish landscapes.
I enjoy the seriousness of the place. You can keep your Golden Gate and your Sydney Harbour Bridge – no prospect gives a more powerful demonstration of man’s heroic triumph over gravity than the original Forth Bridge, and the setting – stern and wild – is matchless. Though, like many such imperial prospects, it would look even better with a few huge grey warships nearby.
I wept when I left – for an England I didn’t know – on a steam-hauled southbound sleeper, and still remember looking longingly from the train through the flashing diagonals of the great bridge, wishing I wasn’t going.
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Alex Salmond takes a moment to take in the Forth Bridge as he flew over it on his way to Edinburgh
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Alex Salmond takes a moment to take in the Forth Bridge as he flew over it on his way to Edinburgh
To this day I’m thrilled whenever I return. I love the exhilarating difference between us and them, and have enjoyed most of the growing assertion of Scottishness in recent years, though I can manage without Gaelic signs on railway stations, which I suspect are as baffling to most Scots as they are to me.
So I could never really join in what I saw as a shallow English resentment at the Scottish aspiration for independence. The Scots are a people, Scotland is a country, and the demand for self-rule is reasonable.
We wasted many years, and made enemies out of friends, by refusing Home Rule to Ireland. Why make the same mistake again? I couldn’t be romantic about it because I understand – as most in Britain do not – that there is no true independence for any territory ruled by the EU. But I could see why Scots got cross when they were told separation from England would make them poorer.
So what? The power to rule yourself is priceless. Isn’t our history full of people who put liberty above money? So I set out for my old home in Rosyth, and the lovely ancient capital in Dunfermline, in two minds.
I didn’t fit neatly into anyone’s preconceptions, and nor did the Scots I spoke to. It was easy to fall into conversation with people, easier than it would have been in England.
There was the quietly humorous shopkeeper who gave me a quick run-down on Dunfermline’s modern political geography – still very much a matter of Catholic and Protestant, whatever anyone may tell you. It wasn’t all that different from what you might have heard in Armagh City in Northern Ireland.
He was keener on the Union than I was, one of the lost legion who once made the Tory Party the biggest political force in Scotland, most of them now well over 50. They are not making them like that any more, and when they are gone the ‘yes’ vote will be far more powerful.
His Scotland was the country I remembered, the smell of coal smoke on the sharp winds, the mines and heavy industry, and the thin-faced, serious people educated in stern and rigorous schools. That’s all gone.
Scots living in England were unable to vote in the referendum, but people of foreign nationality living in Scotland were
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Scots living in England were unable to vote in the referendum, but people of foreign nationality living in Scotland were
The schools these days are as soppy and comprehensive as ours, and outside one of them – being used as a polling station – I encountered another feature of the new Scotland.
I was chatting to a teller from the ‘No’ campaign when we were approached by a man who could barely speak English and who looked to me as if he might well be Burmese. Touchingly, he had no idea how to vote, and wanted to have it explained to him.
We sent him inside for official advice, but I had two sharp opposite thoughts. The first was a sort of joy at a fellow-creature having his first taste of democracy; the other was to wonder why such a person should have more power than I did to change the face of my country.
The next person I met was a cheerful citizen who had decided that morning to vote ‘Yes’. It was a pure gamble, a gesture of revolt against a life that hadn’t offered him much – he hated, above all, the absence of any work except on miserable wages.
Independence (as I think he knew) wouldn’t change that one bit. He just wanted to show he was alive, and relished the power to hurt those who had done nothing for him.
Then I took a train to Cowdenbeath, once a coal-mining town, deep in Gordon Brown territory, its wonderfully bleak name best known from the weekly recitation of the football results.
Now it’s a town of people who used to work, their occupations gone – though it has somehow managed to acquire a sizeable Polish population and a small Turkish community.
A magnificent, upright old lady with an umbrella, walking stoutly to the polls through the drizzle, filled me with guilt by denouncing, in beautiful, grammatical and clearly enunciated English, the silly delusions of the ‘Yes’ campaign, who were promising to spend money they hadn’t got on things they couldn’t afford.
She wouldn’t say how she was voting – like a lot of ‘No’ voters – partly because she had been brought up to believe in the secret ballot. But it wasn’t hard to guess. Yet the young woman with the two children, one in a pushchair, made an equally moving case for ‘Yes’.
Deserted by her husband, stricken early in life with cancer, anxious to work but compelled to travel miles to do so, she truly believed that an independent Scotland would treat her better than the decayed and patchy welfare state she now relied on.
Back in Dunfermline, a woman from England – who moved to Scotland because she liked it so much – told me a worrying story about a neighbour who had tried to put a ‘Yes’ poster on their shared lawn. When she had asked him politely not to, he unleashed a torrent of filthy insults, so menacing that she called the police (who, to their credit, came quickly and put him in his place).
Yet a few miles down the road a young mother complained to me about a ‘Yes’ canvasser who had ludicrously told her a ‘No’ vote would leave Scotland undefended from the terrorists of the Islamic State, who could then come and cut her head off. It wasn’t clear what would bring the Islamists to Fife at all.
By this time I was back in my old home town of Rosyth, where there are still 1940s Naval married quarters (including the one where I lived, instantly recognisable after nearly 60 years) amid the modern housing.
The Rosyth dockyard, built to calm an Edwardian panic about the German naval threat, is a solid symbol of the Union, overshadowed by the enormous crane used to build the new ‘Queen Elizabeth’ aircraft carriers.
I found plenty of obvious ‘No’ voters at Rosyth’s polling stations, some of them clearly English and linked with the dockyard. But the surprising thing was the number of ‘Yes’ supporters in a place so heavily dependent on the Ministry of Defence.
The following day, this being reserved Fife rather than rebellious Glasgow, there was little desire to go over the battle again. I got the impression from the disappointed ‘Yes’ voters that they do not think the issue is closed, and believe that – perhaps ten years hence – their day will come.
English politicians, toying with fudging the promises they made in the last days of the campaign, should beware. From all my conversations, I am fairly sure that Gordon Brown’s intervention swung many thousands of Labour votes from ‘Yes’ to ‘No’. Mr Brown and those voters will punish us terribly if they think we have bilked them.
It is believed that Gordon Brown’s intervention swayed many Scots to vote against independence
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It is believed that Gordon Brown’s intervention swayed many Scots to vote against independence
One disappointed supporter of independence was plainly sick of being characterised as some sort of mindless anti-English bigot. He took me aside and said very seriously, ‘Please tell your readers this. I am not voting ‘Yes’ because I am anti-English. You would be utterly wrong to think that this is what motivates me or most of us.’
He was not the only one to say that it seemed to him that most English people know very little about Scotland and its people. I think this battle will be fought again (most Scottish battles are). But need we be so sad and bitter if it is, and if it goes the other way (as I suspect it will)?
One young couple, he a determined ‘Yes’, she a severe ‘No’, gave a little hope to all of us. They disagreed utterly on the best future for Scotland, but with laughter rather than venom, and went off happily holding hands into the windy dusk.
Why ever not? Nobody was suggesting that we went to war with each other. I never saw why we in England should make such a fierce business of this, saying that a ‘Yes’ would be forever.
Ours is a willing Union, not a forced marriage like those that imprison Flanders in Belgium, and Catalonia in Spain. The door is not locked against those who would leave. Why then should it be locked against them returning?
Alex Salmond asked, powerfully, ‘If not now, when?’, and I think the answer may well be ‘Ten years hence, when the older generation is gone’.
If the Scots want to go, as they may, then I think we should make it clear they would always be welcome back, and leave a light burning in the window. We will never have better friends, and you don’t keep friends by threatening them.
John O’Neil
That’s very true, although independent BBC broadcaster Jim Spence only mentioned new club once and was abused with his family in the streets of Dundee, and could have lost his job, and considered his position. Sevco abused the Dundee Utd support including spitting from the upper tier, and are documented as being prepared for mayhem at Tannadice.
All of this underlines that Celtic have to be very careful, but they could at least continue in the manner they did before liquidation, by dropping ‘Old Firm’ which they hadn’t mentioned in official media for years.
I still prefer to think that Celtic will mark the inevitable introduction of Sevco to the SPL in the manner they would with any other new club.
delaneys dunky
12:08 on 21 September, 2014
Can I have raspberry
Obviously I wisnae their type. :(
A pocket full of pound notes on a Sunday night tended to do the trick, you got a lot for a pound in the 80’s. B—->
hamiltontim
12:02 on 21 September, 2014
you’re allowed to disagree, but I will never understand how any Celtic Supporter could bring themselves to be anywhere near that mob of cheating / corrupt / bigoted orcs ……..my seat will be empty ………
Dundee Derby on SS3,Ajax- Feyenoord on at 1.30
Been delving into the online ‘Sunday Herald’, and their take on Friday’s events.
They are telling it as it is, and should be commended for doing so.
The editor, Richard Walker, was in my year at school. A thoroughly decent, intelligent guy who was never really into football. Music was his big thing.
Not seen him in years, but would gladly shake his hand again and say “well done.”
HH!!
full house at Dens
#armageddon
Best of luck to the bhoys today and to anyone going to croke park hope you really enjoy a great occasion and a Kerry win
Donegal’s version of the wattenachio does nothing for me
67Heaven
I’m not just talking about their support of their football team, I’m referring to their entire culture of bigotry and hatred.
Because Celtic have never said the old club died,anything said before the first Sevco game,will be condemned by all as “inflamatory”,and we will get the blame of all the trouble at that game.
What’s wrong with the truth. They are a new club and if that hurts the Huns, what’s not to like, of course.
My observation is this: for the employees of Celtic eg Deila and the wee guy writing the magazine, they are not aware of the significance of what they are called. It is not an issue.
No one has explained what it means to them.
It matters greatly to a lot of guys on CQN and rightly so. But to many other Celtic fans they don’t give a fig. I’m sure you have spoken to them and felt a little bewildered ?
Simples, they are dead. Liquidation is not just for Christmas and the Face painters have STILL not been paid.
When we play them it will be for the first time and they need to be told this at every opportunity and I do.
That modbro app that was mentioned earlier. …now tried 3 times to download and gave up after spending 10 minutes answering stupid surveys where you will be bombarded by junk e mails and texts….any other route?
jmccormick
Lemonsports
hamiltontim
12:18 on 21 September, 2014
So am I ….. after their corrupt 9 and even more corrupt 3 in a row, they were found out and liquidated …… whilst the establishment are promoting the myth, we must retain our morals and continue to work at destroying the LIE
gearoid1998
Do any of them actually talk about it ? Haven’t had that experience. It’s only when they get together that the mantra is chanted.
They have the amazing ability to be able to lie to them-self. Always found that somewhere between bizarre and hilarious. They know the truth and it belies their ridiculously false sense of superiority.
Like a dog chasing it’s tail, bizarre and hilarious at the same time.
MickTT
10:03 on
21 September, 2014
Need to get to Harmony row after game for my bhoys football trial, where would that be? haven’t an Ayrshire clue.
HH
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braehead shopping centre at the campanile hotel, near dobbies,
gearoid1998
12:27 on 21 September, 2014
CORRECT ….!!!!!!!! HH
BIG CUP WINNERS
Good shout.
But I think the ‘bewildered’ are very small in number though, and we have a duty to younger Celtic supporters to tell it as it happened, with thoughtful writing given the official version is missing in fact, and they are allowed by some quirk of fate at least to be named the same, as they were before and have the same supporters.
The new Celtic generations must be able to read from archived history about HMRC, LNS and EBT’s how Rangers, did in fact die, just in case it does all get airbrushed.