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The dirty little subject

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When (not if) the season is called, the dirty little subject will rear its head, Celtic have five postponed home league games on the season ticket.  While Celtic are likely to be Last Man Standing after the financial crisis that will engulf the game following on from the health crisis, we are set to lose tens of millions of pounds and will inevitably lose money over this period.

What next season will look like remains uncertain; we don’t know when football will resume behind closed doors, when fans will be able to attend or enough clubs will survive to give us a competition.  With so many doubts, we cannot be complacent, which is why players and execs took a pay cut and non-essential staff were furloughed.  In short, we need to retain as much income reduce costs where possible.

There is another side of this story.  We have over 50,000 season ticket holders, many of whom have been without an income in weeks, some are on reduced wages and, inevitably, some will have no job to return to when furlough ends.  As a club, we have to offer a refund for those five games, cash is too important for a family that has none, they cannot put food on the table with a Superstore voucher.

Partick Thistle offered fans a refund and those who needed it, took it, but 96.5% of season ticket holders left the money in their club.  By any standards, that is incredible.  I suspect the demographics of the Celtic support are different; we have plenty of wealthy fans, but I know many who put a huge portion of their disposable income into following Celtic, almost certainly a higher percentage than Partick.

More Celtic fans will need a refund to get through the month, so it should be offered – as soon as possible after the season is called.

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  1. HAMILTONTIM on 6TH MAY 2020 9:19 PM

     

    After the sad passing of my wife Helen (Minx 1888) on Saturday 2/05/20 the family have been inundated with offers from people wishing to send flowers or make donations to a cause. Consequently, we’re asking that donations be made to Strathcarron Hospice.

     

    https://t.co/8KKO1EpSms

     

    Thank you.

     

    Ghuys as you will know from reading CQN we recently launched the WalkwithShay Legacy Fund and set out our purpose. However, given the news of Helen’s death and on Chris launching his just giving page we would like to invite any of you that have not already donated a chance to either do so through the above just giving page or if you are unable to do so then send a donation to the WWS Legacy Fund account:

     

    Account Name: Walk with Shay

     

    Sort Code: 80-22-60

     

    Account No.: 15326765 (correct account number, I posted wrong account number last night)

     

    Please put your moniker as the reference. If you are unable to do either email us at walkwithshay@yahoo.com

     

    We have already ordered flowers, done so before Chris launched the just giving page. The flowers are from you, ‘CQN’.

     

    Helen was a massive part of the CQN family, many more worthy contributors to this blog have listed causes that she was instrumental in helping.The CQN family are second to none and always rise to the challenge, I as always have faith in you all. Helen had faith in you, please please donate via the just giving page or the WWS Legacy Fund account.

     

    Chris’s target was £1,000 at time of this post the amount donated stands at £6,161.

     

    Thank you in advance CQN…

     

    Until we meet again…

     

    Keep the Faith!

     

    Hail Hail!

  2. Big Jimmy

     

     

    My reading of it is that the SPFL are holding off calling the league until Sevco produce their dossier.

     

     

    They fear Sevco using the calling of the league as a pretext to withhold their dossier.

  3. An Dun, those were my thoughts as well. I go further and think that the Hun are doing this whole thing as a way of playing their customer base while at the same time implying that the Taigs are behind the ‘League-being-called’ moves. My opinion is that Celtic should sit tight, say nouwt, agree to any and every extension and let the Hun squirm because as sure as mushrooms love sh*i and the dark, the Hun is as desperate for the League’s money as any club. There is one club in the SPFL that can out-wait every other one, and that club know they WILL be crowned Champions!

     

     

    One other thing you can be sure of, no matter the paucity of evidence from the Dosser’s Dossier (IF it ever sees the light of day) it will not be examined, criticised or vilified by what passes for media in this country.

  4. Monaghan1900 on

    They’re FFin’ gentlemen with a dossier:

     

     

    “[Sevco] playing the gentleman over the release of the dossier – but which SPFL club will leak it first?

     

    Releasing it early to give clubs time to digest it over a weekend rather than just 24 hours notice before next Tuesday’s SPFL meeting.

     

    The club will surely know that doing so gives the dark forces more time to spin their webs of deceit and evasion.

     

    The moral high ground does of course mean nothing to the filth we are dealing with and their lackeys, both paid and unpaid, but it is good to see the club acting like this and playing things by the book.”

     

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    “Playing the gentleman got us into this mess.”

     

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    “Who’s the go to Tarrier journalist of choice?

     

    Will be more than one – each journo will be told to go down their assigned prong of the narrative – the old pincer movement. Jackson probably on the easier big bad [Sevco]. A more subtle approach required on kumbaya prong narrative”

     

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    “Regardless of our evidence and how good it is at proving the SPFL in the wrong the majority of clubs, led by Celtic (or controlled by Celtic) will have already decided to not only dismiss it but use it to attack us further. That said, depending on how good the evidence is we might be in a position to ignore them back and go straight for the jugular.”

     

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    “They are all sewer rhats and Celtic will have either paid off a few, offered incentives by way of players, or via help with loans or offered friendlies.”

     

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    ” I think the delay in issuing it earlier in the week was because the meeting of Premiership clubs on Monday was postponed until today and we were goading them into making a decision before we released the dossier.

     

    So we delayed. They‘ve now delayed as well. Co-incidence or tit-for-tat? Should we wait until tomorrow now and call their bluff again? Or have things gone too far and we have to get it out there?” (Probably, Sammy…Probably.)

     

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    “We have very little obvious support from other clubs and the evidence really needs to be like when the Scooby Gang take off the ghost’s mask to reveal it was old Mr Lawwell all the time.”

     

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    “All that’s corrupt with our game will play out before our eye” (Which one, Dave?)

     

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    “Don’t think anyone inside Ibrox is in any way worried about the content of the dossier being leaked.

     

    Good manners, having morals and playing the game as it should be played are what distinguishes human beings from products of the primordial swamp.”

     

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    “As some smart cookie here suggested it should have been watermarked,”

     

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    “Any poster who regurgitates the mhedia’s opinion on this in here should have their icon/photograph replaced by a dunce’s cap or a donkey.”

     

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    “Sitting on this while asking us to pony up for season tickets to watch a race between Shergar and Red Rum while sitting on the very thing that tells us one horses legs are tied together isn’t on.” (Don’t think it would make a huge difference with either of those horses, Sammy.)

     

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    “You never know we might not show all of our hand today. Maybe just enough to give the sweetie wifes something to chew over, and keep an ace up our sleeves for the meeting later on . Just a thought since we have played it well up to now.

     

    I think that will be an offer to deal with the cost of an investigation. That’s the biggest hurdle in getting some teams to vote as they are more interested in cash than integrity” (You mean bribery?…Sound)

     

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    “Emperor papal-tine opporates in the shadows.” (4 across, 7 letters)

  5. !!Bada Bing!! on

    The UK Government buys a shed load of fake PPE from Turkey, just about sums up the response here.

  6. Neustadt-Braw on

    !!BADA BING!! on 7TH MAY 2020 8:43 AM

     

    Just seen Fortuna Dusseldorf GM on Good Morning Britain, explained in perfect English what the situation is, if a player is positive, he is quarantined, rest of squad remain,all are tested 24 hours before a game,instant results. I wonder what it’s like to live in an efficient country?

     

     

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    smiley the short answer is awfy braw thing

     

     

    Braw

  7. !!BADA BING!! on 7TH MAY 2020 8:43 AM

     

    ‘Just seen Fortuna Dusseldorf GM on Good Morning Britain, explained in perfect English what the situation is, if a player is positive, he is quarantined, rest of squad remain,all are tested 24 hours before a game,instant results. I wonder what it’s like to live in an efficient country?’

     

     

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    What happens if a club has an outbreak and they can’t fulfill their fixtures due to players being quarantined?

  8. Say la Liga gets back playing and Messi goes down with it. Are we ignoring the fact the league outcome has been significantly impacted by corona virus ?

     

     

    Yes, we are. But this is not about integrity, it’s about money.

  9. !!BADA BING!! on 7TH MAY 2020 10:00 AM

     

    The UK Government buys a shed load of fake PPE from Turkey, just about sums up the response here.

     

    ******

     

    Fake gear from Turkey, what a surprise. On the other hand, my middle daughter works in The Coved ward and was given a present from a friend in NHS England of a rather splendid NHS approved PPE “jacket/top” and another present from a NHS Scotland consultant psychiatrist of a face mask and was told she couldn’t wear them as they were too good, i. e. Better than everyone else’s on the ward. Great, eh.

     

    Sort of get their point, but…..

  10. @Kheredine

     

    @Kheredine2018

     

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    14m

     

    The @RangersFC

     

    ‘dossier’ has landed … 41 football club chairmen/women and chief execs in Scotland currently reading what it says …

  11. Monaghan1900

     

     

    Your FF quotes included the following:-

     

     

    “A more subtle approach required on kumbaya prong narrative”

     

     

    Is that Ulster Skats? I can’t make head nor tails of that metaphor.

     

     

    Maybe the Kumbaya Prong Narrative headlined at the Oul Burns Howff at one time

  12. BAZZA67 on 7TH MAY 2020 10:38 AM

     

    @Kheredine

     

     

    The @RangersFC

     

     

    ‘dossier’ has landed … 41 football club chairmen/women and chief execs in Scotland currently reading what it says …

     

    ********

     

    A good way to spend 5 minutes

  13. Playing Countdown

     

     

    KUMBAYAPRONGNARRATIVE

     

     

    11 letter word wins it: BANKRUPTING

  14. Ernie & BADA at 10:19

     

    *******

     

    Don’t think anyone has addressed the issue of player’s insurance. Discussed on here for a short while but ignored elsewhere. Would elite players risk their livelihood?

  15. The 400,000 PPE gowns sentby Turkey,seemingly don’t meet British safety standards,whatever that means.

     

    So far,British safety standards seems to be not having gowns.No complaints from Italy and Spain,who they also supplied.Maybe it’s just a “British”thing.Surprising,as they were sending their armies into combat with the wrong uniforms,no boots,,for their wee invasions of countries with warmer climes.

     

    Maybe it’s just a very British thing.

  16. Last thought on the PPE from Turkey.Before recieving 400,000,you would have thought it might have been a good idea to say,OK,send us over a couple of samples for testing.No?

  17. Turkeybhoy

     

     

    Yes, but they should have asked for samples weeks before they did. That would then have given them the time to decide before it was needed.

  18. The first shipment of PPE kit that arrived in Ireland from China also contained a quantity of gowns that were unfit for purposes, The sleeves were not long enoigh, just came to below the elbows .

     

    Things seemed to get sorted out fairly quickly and we heard of no more complaints since.

  19. So apparently the dossier has been delivered. Call me a cynic but the fact Sevco haven’t leaked it at this stage suggests to me they’ve got nothing.

  20. Apparently their bloody Dossier has over 200 pages, feckin hell it’s not Brexit or is it.

     

    Hope the Printer got paid in advance,

  21. CORKCELT on 7TH MAY 2020 11:28 AM

     

    Apparently their bloody Dossier has over 200 pages, feckin hell it’s not Brexit or is it.

     

    Hope the Printer got paid in advance,

     

    ——————————————————-

     

    Page one – Refer to page two.

     

    Page two – Refer to page three

     

    Page three – Refer to page four

     

    Page four ………………………………..

     

    Page 200 – Refer to page one.

  22. CORKCELT on 7TH MAY 2020 11:28 AM

     

    Apparently their bloody Dossier has over 200 pages, feckin hell it’s not Brexit or is it.

     

     

    Hope the Printer got paid in advance,

     

    ***********

     

    Forget the 5 minute read from earlier – straight to the shredder.

  23. Turkeybhoy,

     

    Yep you make good points. Apologies for being so derisive. And another thing… my grandson’s fake Celtic top bought from Dalyan market last July has outlasted the one bought at the Celtic Superstore last September.

  24. If it’s 200 pages, it’s many things but evidence isn’t one of them.

     

     

    There’s no way they’ve 200 pages of evidence.

     

     

    They’ve 200 pages of complaints, perceptions and innuendo.

     

     

    Who was bullied ? What was said ? Why should Doncaster and McKenzie be suspended exactly ?