The harmful urge to sign players early

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How many of us rolled eyes at the news this week that Issouf Bayo was off to play for Watford, a Premier League team last season, and Oliver Burke would ply his trade in the Bundesliga with Werder Bremen?  Both are forwards, both 25, both fleeting unsuccessful stints at Celtic, now they have won a ticket for wages at a high paying club.

There is a great truism in football, the fans who watch a player week-in, week-out will provide a more telling insight than YouTube clips, stats or scouting reports.  Good luck to both of them but I expect neither to succeed.

The problem with Watford and Werder is that they both want a striker in early and do not have the patience to hang around until nearer the end of the window, when talent that is actually in demand will become available.

Looking in from the outside, we can both see the rashness.  What benefit is there in recruiting guys who were so easily handled by SPFL defenders?  Watford fans will see Bayo who banged in 11 goals in a six-month loan stint a Charleroi, whereas Werder fans will wonder at how they picked up a striker on a free transfer who has twice been sold for in excess of £13m.

Having qualified for the Champions League group stage, there is, by contrast, a calm over events at Celtic.  Two of last season’s successful loanees are now on permanent deals, Dundee United’s free keeper was signed and we paid a tidy sum for what, by any measure, is an ambitious move into the South American youth market.

There are more spaces in the squad available: a third striker option and midfield cover.  Let’s not be like Watford and Werden Bremen.

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  1. AT 1.20pm

     

     

    Probably ma fault thinking you had chucked it

     

     

     

    A few days away from the internet sounds like bliss :-)

  2. Tobago Street on

    I think Tom Devine’s criticism is that an amateur, Neil is being asked to give expert analysis. Perhaps also that he is a ‘celebrity’

     

     

    T

  3. Good luck to Aiden McGeady at Hibs. I know he’s a wee rascal but sometimes the best players are.

  4. AN DÚN on 4TH JULY 2022 1:23 PM

     

     

    I agree, we have a lot to look forward to. The extra challenge this season is that our rivals know how we play now so it will be a bit harder this season. I think Ange gets that with his comments on us having to improve again. Great attitude.

     

     

    i will be looking out for energy and effort in the pre-season to hit the ground running. I am not aligned to the ‘it’s just for fitness’ theory of pre season

  5. AD @ 1.23

     

     

    We desperately need a starting CDM and a starting CB for CL credibility.

     

    Happy with loans but we have one big gap / chasm and one area for improvement.

     

     

    Hopefully we are on the case.

  6. Tom McLaughlin on

    ZIGGYDOC1

     

     

    I remember Bayo’s 2 goals against Hearts.

     

     

    During a post-match interview on BBC Sportsound, Craig Levein was at pains to point out, with a mocking snigger, that both Bayo’s goals were in fact own goals.

     

     

    So here we had a Director of Football, eager to publicly debit own goals to two of his own players, for no other reason than to demean and undermine a young Celtic player.

     

     

    As I have said before on here – Levein is a rat, a cheat and a match fixer.

  7. fanadpatriot on

    Mcphail Bhoy @ 1.08

     

    I will be looking on with interest

     

    I really think Bayo could be a special player.HH

  8. Tom McLaughlin on

    India all out for 245.

     

     

    England will now bat needing 378 to win over a day and a half.

     

     

    Interesting.

  9. SFTB,

     

     

    Don’t shoot the batsman, sorry batters as the MCC have now stipulated.

     

     

    Where on earth have you been, have you not seen the cancel culture agenda in full swing.?

     

     

    Schools, the NHS, Banking, the Girl Guides even Disney have embraced the cancel culture.

     

    With an abundance of American owners in our game its only a matter of time.

     

     

    This is not an opinion formulated by recent Daily Mail articles I have periodically expressed this over many years on here.

     

     

    Time will tell, but complacency is the friend of extremists in all forms.

     

     

    Myth you say. Really ?

     

     

    Ask the woman who got a “generation” of children to pick up a book !

     

     

    In recent diversity and inclusion seminars it was questioned if the long established civil intro ” Ladies and Gents” was now appropriate.

     

     

    I will wager that UK sport will be under pressure for name changes in the medium future. Let’s hope that Celtic will not be involved.

     

     

    I hope we can have an updated civil conversation on here in a few years time re the same subject.

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    PS : Contemplate the changes you have seen since Paul 67 launched this great blog.

  10. AN DÚN on 4TH JULY 2022 1:23 PM

     

    We got the signings we needed in early and can look forward to a settled preseason.

     

     

    I assumed our transfer business would dial down a bit after Jota, much more likely to focus on outgoings now and look to loan market nearer the end of the window to see who is available.

     

     

    Certainly no need to panic, we’ve a good squad in place.

     

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    And we are not finished.👍

     

    Window has a while to go before it closes.

     

    4 signings before pre season starts takes a bit of getting used to,allied to fact no tricky/euro defining qualifiers to get over(see if we get thro then sign attitude) becoming a better club.so at mo ready for pre season,ready then for season and see how the window goes for more additions lookin to Champs league.

     

     

    HH

  11. VB vs Hertz — WC was trying to work the goal difference angle.

     

    Every little helps or might have helped.

  12. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Tolbooth. I hope you are all hale and hearty.

  13. Was lucky enough to see both Olly Burke and Timo Weah play for Celtic after being brought in by Brendan if I remember rightly. Gave us a bit of a boost in the early part of 2019. Burke needs more composure at key moments and better decision making generally, but has a lot going for him. Weah of course went on to win the French title with Lille. Both shunned and shipped out under instruction following Brendan’s £9 million departure.

  14. Tom McLaughlin on

    Just been looking at some pics from Lennoxtown this morning prior to flight to Vienna, courtesy of Celtic twitter. Sorry, can’t post a link.

     

     

    Two things. Cameron looks much more slimline than he did last season. Also, Callum still sporting the white face guard. Could it now be a permanent fixture?

  15. The transgender revolution is based on a p*ss take by US right wing mentalists to wind up feminists — laughs and giggles all round.

     

     

    Even they are surprised how this issue has grown arms and legs to the point that it could bring down Western civilisation.

     

     

    It is a wind up that too many take seriously.

     

     

    It has fallen onto the fertile ground of modern day exhibitionism — WTF cares what you are eating for your dinner — the age old concept of attention seeking / rampant individualism and the growing storm of ID politics.

     

     

    The Venn diagram is a work of art

     

     

    It is currently being encouraged / refashioned in all seriousness by the self same right wing mentalists that built it up as a joke so that the reaction when it comes can be used to take us back to the 50’s.

     

     

    That would be the 1750’s.

     

     

    Right wing mentalists in the US — they play the long game very well at the moment.

     

    Roe vs Wade — I rest my case.

  16. Tom McLaughlin on

    GREENPINATA

     

     

    You copied & pasted a fairly humorous spoof list of potential victims of the so-called cancel culture. I confess to finding it funny upon first read.

     

     

    Yet astonishingly, It seems that you have taken it to be a serious piece of journalism.

     

     

    Please tell me, even at this late juncture, that you are having a laugh.

  17. Paul, is that a way of telling us that we won’t be signing anyone else until we get a couple of loans in on the last day of the window.

  18. PROFESSOR Sir Tom Devine has expressed concerns over Neil Oliver representing Scottish history in the media after what he claims are a string of “bizarre and crass public statements”.

     

     

    Devine, one of Scotland’s leading historians, told The National of his discomfort over Oliver “pontificating” on the country’s past after the TV historian suggested there are efforts under way to “take down” a statue of David Livingstone in Glasgow due to his connections to the slave trade, despite his work on abolition.

     

     

    In an eight-minute monologue on GB News, former NTS president Oliver used the incident as an example of how there’s an agenda to “run down Britain” and “tear the old place down in its entirety”. In reality, there appeared to be no “bid” to remove the statue.

     

     

    There was a report commissioned by Glasgow City Council and written by academic Dr Stephen Mullen published in March 2022, which gave detailed examples of the city’s physical links to the slave trade.

     

     

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    In the 119-page document, there is one mention of Livingstone’s statue, explaining how he was connected to the trade.

     

     

    “David Livingstone, famous missionary explorer, was employed in Blantyre Mill, owned by Henry Monteith, who was in a partnership with two Glasgow-West India merchants in the 1810s,” Mullen writes. “Blantyre Mill paid relatively high wages to its workforce; including Livingstone from 1823 and especially after 1832 when he was promoted to a cotton-spinner which funded his education.”

     

     

     

    The council has said it has no proposals to remove any monuments on the basis of the report. Despite this, Oliver made the claim and a number of right-wing news outlets suggested Livingstone’s memorial faced removal.

     

     

    Devine had praised the report and even suggested that its contents could be used as a basis for a Glasgow Museum of Slavery and Empire. Following Oliver’s latest GB News appearance, plus the Coast presenter’s recent controversial tweets – including stating he will “never accept a microchip tag” and claim that the SNP have a “preoccupation” with children – Devine expressed his fears over Oliver being seen as a face of Scottish history, including on Glasgow tour buses and Loch Lomond cruises.

     

     

    “This individual has no formal historical training either at the undergraduate or postgraduate level but persists in being asked to pontificate on issues of Scottish history when there are so many excellent experts on the nation’s past working in our universities,” Devine told The National.

     

     

    “He also has a track record of making bizarre and crass public statements on a whole series of other topics in which he really cannot claim any authority or expertise. I know that his interventions irritate many people.”

     

     

    However, Devine stressed that “today’s media culture” is to blame rather than Oliver as an individual.

     

     

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    “For much of the present media so-called ‘celebrity’ status usually trumps knowledge and understanding, especially in the spheres of culture, history and the humanities, when seeking interviewees,” he went on. “The sciences and medicine are more insulated from this practice but even they are not entirely exempt from it. “Some sections of the print and TV media obviously think their readers and viewers still find Mr Oliver of interest. When that assumption changes, his public profile will vanish without trace.”

     

     

    READ MORE: Rory Stewart: ‘Insane’ to think of Borders and Cumbria as in different countries

     

     

    GB News has been contacted for comment. Dr Mullen, a history research associate at Glasgow University and author of The Glasgow Sugar Aristocracy, defended his report against media “misrepresentations”.

     

     

    “I was commissioned by the Glasgow City Council to author an independent audit in my area of academic expertise: Scotland and Atlantic slavery,” he told The National. “I was, and remain, independent from the political process. I made no recommendations: that is up to Glasgow’s politicians and citizens. “It is sad to see the conversation remains centred on misrepresentations of the audit rather than the history and legacies of Scotland and Atlantic slavery.”

     

     

    Oliver has long been a controversial figure in Scotland, having famously compared the possibility of indyref2 to a “cancerous presence” in society. The keen Unionist has even suggested that Scottish independence could infringe on his human rights as it may risk his British citizenship. In 2020, he stepped down from the NTS president role after saying he “loves” David Starkey. Shortly afterwards, Starkey said in interview that slavery “was not genocide otherwise there wouldn’t be so many damn blacks in Africa or Britain”.

     

     

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  19. L = Island in the Aegean — where is seemingly all started.

     

    G = The Ancient Greeks codified it / encouraged it — see above for confirmation.

     

    B = As the very old joke opined — they had twice as much chance of pulling on a Saturday night.

     

    T = (1) Hollywood Jocks vs men who go to the bingo / Victorian postcards and their effeminate men.

     

    (2) Girly girls vs tomboys — EB sold loads of books on the back of it — 5 go mad on the buckie.

     

     

    Consequently all the building blocks were in play and the splendid variety of human race was accepted — locally to begin with — in working class culture through the ages.

     

     

    That this growing equilibrium has been shattered — you have to ask why / who benefits?

     

    As in most things I start with US inspired right wing mentalists / AR fanatics and move out.

  20. Tom McLaughlin on

    MADMITCH

     

     

    Don’t worry about it too much. All us ‘real’ men go through those phases of self-doubt. Most of us in our teens mind you.

  21. SM report — thin kitchen sink job / famous name dragged in through the most tenuous of links to bulk up the document.

     

     

    Not good — in fact pretty crap.

  22. TMcL @ 2.40

     

     

    Free your Sassenach inner self — should you not be watching the cricket?

     

     

    Make the most of your current opportunity — cricket will be banned in any future Natland.

  23. Who do I owe the money too — SFTB vs Stx2?

     

    Currently having a grey moment.

  24. Funny when you think about — in a strange type of way.

     

     

    When we hit the gym / dial up the training — we lose weight.

     

    TFOD2.1 cheap buy / punt goes to the gym — they gain weight and shout about it.

     

     

    Interesting contrast.

  25. TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 4TH JULY 2022 2:20 PM

     

     

    There was no copy and paste involved. I’m sure if I had more time I could have unearthed some crackers.

     

     

    For the vast majority of us it’s quite funny how daft it all is, unfortunately for a small vocal minority its deadly serious.

     

     

    It will never catch on in the pubs in the Gallowgate, that’s for sure, the arty fatty West end establishments ?

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    PS : Our company is obsessed with manhours. They want estimates to the last hour for everything I love referring to them as personhours.. Thank God we don’t use manholes. 😀

  26. prestonpans bhoys on

    SS@2:31

     

     

    Can see where PROFESSOR Sir Tom Devine is coming from, from a football angle same can be said of Kris Boyd 😂😂

  27. bournesouprecipe on

    Round about now somebody will post – why haven’t we signed a Centre Back ?

  28. St Stivs.

     

     

    Fine article,with correct view,I see Tom’s words ion the meeja true.

     

    Wee Neil personifies perception over reality.

     

    I read Tom’s words as emphasising substance over style.

     

    It would be good in time to acknowledge fully Glasgows slave owning class and the wealth gained in human misery.A past were awareness needs raised but given context where slavery is known.

     

     

    The repetitious error is a mèeja technique used today .

     

    Wee humanleagueheid Neil does it a lot.

     

    Staunin thrown shoite at a windae he then licks.

     

    All Tom is saying is don’t ask the plumber to paint.😁

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Hh

  29. Safe standing introduced to England. Wembley included.

     

     

    Main stand redevelopment should convert front stand to a standing enclosure and include my south west corner.

     

     

    I would support that.

  30. TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 4TH JULY 2022 1:43 PM

     

    ZIGGYDOC1

     

     

    I remember Bayo’s 2 goals against Hearts.

     

     

    During a post-match interview on BBC Sportsound, Craig Levein was at pains to point out, with a mocking snigger, that both Bayo’s goals were in fact own goals.

     

     

    So here we had a Director of Football, eager to publicly debit own goals to two of his own players, for no other reason than to demean and undermine a young Celtic player.

     

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    Yep. I remember that. Pretty pathetic. He’s another one who is full of his own self importance. Just had a flashback, as I type, didn’t he blooter one of own players once (might have broken his jaw or cheek)? Great that we’ll see some football this week. Actually, I’ll be watching the women’s euros also.