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Had your fill of international football for the year? Good. Let’s get on with business. Delighted Mark McGhee’s back in football, and at Motherwell. I had a soft spot for Mark back in the days, ‘Hammer of the Hearts’, as he was.

By watching Mark McGhee you saw a profound change take place in the game. Until the mid-80s it was possible to get by in the game aligning brute strength with decent levels of skill, as Mark had, or even sublime skill with compulsive inertia, which was enough for Charlie Nicholas to carve out a career for a while.

Almost in an instant the game changed. Mark was praised (and valued) with the most unflattering chant, Nicholas was finished after the debacle of Raith Rovers. Not that he’s bitter.

Best of luck to big Mixu too. I’m long on record saying we don’t need a ‘strong Rangers’ (sic.), but the flip side of this is that we do need teams like Aberdeen and United meeting the grade.

Murray Capital Group posted a £13.6m pre-tax profit. I’ve been writing about this wolf in wolf’s clothing for long enough to know the script with this matter.

I know many CQN’ers have helped Glasgow the Caring City over the years. You should take a look at the work they carried out with Syrian and Afghan refugees in Serbia this month. If you are on Facebook, give them a like here.  It helps the volunteers to know their efforts are appreciated.

Then maybe ask older Celtic fans what they know about Novi Sad, it’s a story worth telling, even 48 years on.

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  1. Not sure I can see the wisdom in the alleged signing on loan of the boy Wilson from Man U.In fact,I cant.If its only until the end of the season,then how does that help us for next seasons CL qualifiers?.He will go back to Man U,and we will be no better off.If we are looking to sign a permanent striker,the boy from the Bundesliga,why would we want another striker,for such a short period?.

     

    Just cant see the wisdom in this.

  2. southside on 14th October 2015 1:12 pm

     

     

    TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels –

     

     

    Its the calm before the storm….. baton down the hatches

     

     

    HH

  3. TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels on

    Dena

     

     

    We get a Better quality of conversation on Facebook

  4. Paul67

     

     

    Ah! the old 1/4 finalist foes Vojvodina Novi Sad.

     

     

    The unknowns from Serbia were a bit of a mystery back in the days!

  5. Turkeybhoy on 14th October 2015 1:18 pm

     

     

    I am of a similar opinion to yours

     

    but am thinking the deal for the Bundesliga boy is not so close and Wilson is a cheap version to maintain cover in the interim

     

     

    HH

  6. Can any clever CQNers enlighten me as to what the comment regarding Murray Capital Group is in reference to? Way over my head.

  7. TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels –

     

     

    You know what they say about “fools seldom differ” :-))

     

     

    HH

  8. Margaret McGill on

    Phew!

     

    Great!

     

    Now we can focus Tim attention on our own abject failures instead of living vacariously on the abject failures of the Dutch National side. Someday soon the ever diminishing spiral of paul67 drivel will catch up with you numpties !

  9. Margaret McGill on

    Any if you sanctimonious gits checked yet to see if you have hastened the repugnant beheading and crucifixion of that innocent Saudi kid yet with your petition garbage?

     

    Naw ?

     

    Wait

     

    Hod oan

     

    Decapitato horribuls cuntuntus soon to happen

  10. Hi Paul67

     

     

    …..I’m long on record saying we don’t need a ‘strong Rangers’ (sic.), but the flip side of this is that we do need teams like Aberdeen and United meeting the grade.

     

     

    Totally agree, think Jackie Mac got it a bit tuff, he was doing okay, yet Dundee United have lost so many decent players in the last few Seasons it was bound to effect performance. Still hope Mixu does well and of course all the best to Mark McGhee.

     

     

    tonydonnelly67 @ 1:06 pm,

     

     

    Thanks… Yes as you say so many unknowns, just thought it was worth pointing out that the fallout from the outcomes of these cases are not that predictable. If RIFC lose the case and have to pay Charles Green’s costs it isn’t necessary Ice Cream and Jelly time.

     

     

    In fact Barcabhoy suggests that the smart thing to do was for RIFC to do what they can for Brown’s acquittal as the implications of a guilty verdict could really be catastrophic.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  11. TURKEYBHOY on 14TH OCTOBER 2015 1:18 PM

     

    Not sure I can see the wisdom in the alleged signing on loan of the boy Wilson from Man U.In fact,I cant.If its only until the end of the season,then how does that help us for next seasons CL qualifiers?.He will go back to Man U,and we will be no better off.If we are looking to sign a permanent striker,the boy from the Bundesliga,why would we want another striker,for such a short period?.

     

    Just cant see the wisdom in this.

     

     

    We need to get into the qualifiers first so he might just come in handy?

     

    Back to work

     

    HH

  12. Turkeybhoy,

     

     

     

    Celtic needs another striker and one will not be bought till there’s at least one off the books imo.

     

     

    Hopefully we are still in 4 comps come January and another decent pair of hands (feet) can only help.

     

     

    It also gives the guys concerned a little longer to get their finger out and bring in a long term signing that’ll enhance the side.

     

     

     

    HH

  13. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    MIH company premier property was a contributing factor to their downfall as much as Murray ‘s ego. The better properties that premier property owned were sold off to members of Murray’s family for reasonable prices , allegedly for below market price. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the above properties have been sold on for a good profit. This might a reason Murray Capital group have recorded s profit.

     

     

    Murray still being in business is a sad state of affairs following his part in the fall of HBOS and the mismanagement of his previous businesses.

     

     

    It will be good to get back to league football this weekend.

  14. The Battered Bunnet on

    Ally McCoist was a really big fan of McGhee’s, although he always admitted that he preferred Greggs.

  15. Afternoon Timland from a warm hun free mountain valley.

     

    Chairbhoy

     

    Who Is Brown ?

     

    If the huns need CG to be aquited, he will be, and the blame will be laid elsewhere, mark my words.

     

    HH

  16. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Geordie

     

     

    What I ventured on the last thread was that the short term gains we make through developing the likes of Denayer for other clubs, actually reduces our chances of blending in our own kids, gaining finances through transfers and of course, the thing we all want, qualifying for the CL.

  17. Parkheadcumsalford on 14th October 2015

     

     

    Vojvodina – the toughest opponent en route to Lisbon. As the crowd was began to settle for a replay Billy got the winner.

  18. Big cup,

     

     

    I read ye neebs and replied. I get what you saying.

     

     

    Last year was unfortunate regarding Deneyer. His big buddy also was leaving us at some time soon.

     

     

    I honestly believe celtic thought they had a chance of getting him back on loan. I also believe vvd woulda stayed till January if we had qualified for cl. But that’s another story.

     

     

     

    I’m the same as everyone else and I’d rather we signed a guaranteed future success on a long term contract than a short term loan but in this case I can see no problem in taking Wilson for a bit.

     

     

    HH

  19. THE EXILED TIM @ 2:01 PM,

     

     

    “Who Is Brown ?

     

     

    If the huns need CG to be aquited, he will be, and the blame will be laid elsewhere, mark my words.

     

     

    Good point…

     

     

    Sometimes instead of Oldco, Newco I think of Rangers in colour, like Picasso…

     

     

    There was the Whyte period, followed by the Green period, leading to the…

     

     

    Anyway Green = Brown – Apologies.

     

     

    You have a point and your words are certainly marked, but it may not be that simple…

     

     

    The Ibroxians are calling for blood, who do they acquit? CW an awe?

     

     

    Then there’s the guys waiting in the wings with the lawsuits – so much will come out during the trial that the newco maybe untenable either way, i.e. who owns what? In that case maybe a scapegoat(S) is/are needed, an excuse to start again with no blame on Real Rangers men.

     

     

    It’s a tough call either way.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  20. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Geordie

     

     

    Yes, you’re right, he could help short term.

     

     

    The wider issue of planning at the club is a concern. I agree with the opinions you offered re an extension of Denayer’s loan and VvD being retained to January, at least. Thes possibilities were undermined by the lack of a striker, Left back and a creative midfielder.

     

     

    There will be a reason why the club failed again of course. Finances ? Ambition ? who knows, but there’s a reason why we are declining.

  21. Whatever Chuck did or didn’t do, one thing that should be remembered is that his initial plan was derailed by The Bears themselves who resisted Green’s attempts to do a deal re limited title stripping for cheating and go into the second tier.

     

     

    Salary led the charge to act like Rangers always acted and spend, spend spend – even as they started again in the forth tier.

     

     

    Chuck was holed up in that three star hotel under the Kingston Bridge in fear for his life as The Bears threatened him.

     

     

    He ‘took advice’ and pretty soon was playing the No Surrender bigotry card which always calms a Bear you’ve annoyed.

     

     

    He is no mug and realised he could give them their history fix as the feeble football authorities would do or say nothing. All he needed was the media onside so Traynor was recruited.

     

     

    That The Bears would actually buy the continuing history myth and the the football authorities and the media would about face and concur must have been a source of amazement for Chuck. No wonder his co-accused, currently residing beyond the reach of our courts in Pakistan, said what he did about the way things are in Scotland.

  22. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 14th October 2015 2:03 pm

     

     

    Let’s say at the time though they thought O’Connell might be ready for the start of this season but wasn’t quite there yet.

     

     

    Do you bring in a quality loanee (like Denayer) or spend money on a permanent signing and end up with a player on your books that you don’t really want?

     

     

    I’m not saying that’s what happened but it’s one of the scenarios where I could see a season long loan being a better idea than a permanent signing.

  23. Not sure I can see the wisdom in the alleged signing on loan of the boy Wilson from Man U.In fact,I cant.If its only until the end of the season,then how does that help us for next seasons CL qualifiers?.He will go back to Man U,and we will be no better off.If we are looking to sign a permanent striker,the boy from the Bundesliga,why would we want another striker,for such a short period?. Just cant see the wisdom in this. –

     

     

    The wisdom lies in the application of a strategy based on just doing enough to get bye.

     

     

    See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/the-instant-football-changed/#sthash.BGbWDFil.dpuf

  24. Winning Captains @ 2:30 pm,

     

     

    Thanks for that insight, remember the Blue Knights putting pressure on CG, who was talking long term at one point and had a viable business plan for that.

     

     

    Wondered about the change of direction, the quick IPO then getting the heck out of Dodge.

     

     

    Very enlightening…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  25. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Weeminger

     

     

    Yes, I’d have accepted that if we had signed someone to replace Denayer………at the correct time. Now the narrative is we may have secured Denayer again IF we’d qualified……….without his services. Surely we didn’t gamble to that extent ?

     

     

    You referenced O’Connell, another example is Henderson. I cannot fathom why we loan out these aspiring youngsters and bring in other clubs players. The kid Henderson is a player, performeed well at 17 in the Hoops, scored goals and looked the part……..why has he been farmed out ?

  26. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 14th October 2015 2:50 pm

     

     

    Not sure. We just to trust the managers and coaches that think they’re ready for the pressures associated with playing week in, week out but not the additional pressure of being in a team expected to win every one of those games.

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