The joy when great champions lose

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There is significant pleasure this morning that Juventus are out of the Serie A Champions League spots.  As prime protagonists in the European Super League fiasco, the definitive poster boys for cheating, as well as claiming titles that are not actually theirs (cough), they deserve all the antagonism coming their way.  More than all this, however, we all like to see a successful club taken down a peg.

Apart from when it is us, of course, there was nothing pleasant about going from 12 trophies in a row to an empty season.  Like Juventus, Celtic looked imperious a year ago on securing nine titles in a row.  I am of the view that fans of most other clubs have a milder form of dislike for Celtic than Newco/Oldco, it is certainly true of Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee United and I suspect even Hearts fans.  Those of a couple of teams from my native Lanarkshire will forever be the holdouts.  Notwithstanding an occasional fondness for Celtic, every other club and set of fans in Scotland wanted our run to stop.  We became the greatest scalp in Scottish football history.

Success like this was great for Celtic and Juventus, and lousy for all other clubs, but it was also great for competitions in both countries.  Every cup competition in Scotland from 2016 until Ross County knocked us out of the League Cup in November had an intensity the sponsors could not dream about.

Great sport requires great champions but the greatest sport is when the greats lose.  I watched the World Snooker Championship this month and noted the only finals mentioned on TV that involved six-times winner Steve Davis were the two he lost, to Dennis Taylor and Joe Johnson.  The former’s win ranking in the top TV sporting moments of the decade.

Those two Davis loses were a blip, he won the next three at a canter.  Great champions also know how to recover.  I expect no less from Celtic.

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  1. Apathy regarding Celtic is quite understandable. Exposure to a constant barrage negativity from supporters and MSSM alike is bound to have a negative affect on many.

     

    Cheerio for now.

  2. HOT SMOKED on 11TH MAY 2021 10:11 AM

     

    Apathy regarding Celtic is quite understandable. Exposure to a constant barrage negativity from supporters and MSSM alike is bound to have a negative affect on many.

     

     

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    The apathy isn’t caused by disgruntled supporters or the MSM.

     

     

    It’s caused by the way the club has been run.

  3. “ERNIE LYNCH on 11TH MAY 2021 10:04 AM

     

    Craig Murray banged up for 8 months.”

     

     

    Has he really been jailed for 8 months? A jail sentence seems excessive. Am I missing something?

  4. HOT SMOKED on 11TH MAY 2021 10:14 AM

     

     

    James Doleman is covering proceedings live on twitter.

     

     

    They’ve asked for sentence to be deferred pending an appeal to the Supreme Court.

     

     

    Court is in recess to consider the request.

  5. ERNIE LYNCH on 11TH MAY 2021 10:14 AM

     

    I disagree. As far as I know, the Club has been run in a similar fashion for the the last ten years. Only in this Covid season has disgruntlement been so evident.

  6. HOT SMOKED on 11TH MAY 2021 10:18 AM

     

     

    The consequences of how the club has been run, and the the agenda they were working to, have only become evident this season.

     

     

    The chickens have come home to roost, as it were.

     

     

    Hence the apathy. Although I would describe it more as alienation.

  7. squire danaher on

    HOT SMOKED on 11TH MAY 2021 10:14 AM

     

     

    He is a member of the British Establishment who has gone rogue.

  8. ERNIE LYNCH on 11TH MAY 2021 10:18 AM

     

     

    Thanks. James Doleman will have to be careful :-))

     

    Definitely off now.

     

    Cheerio.

  9. Squire Danaher @ 10.22

     

     

    He stopped being a member of the Establishment years ago when he was ambassador to Kazakhstan and discovered that Blair’s government was colluding in torture.

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    79CAPS on 11TH MAY 2021 10:27 AM

     

    Squire Danaher @ 10.22

     

     

     

    He stopped being a member of the Establishment years ago when he was ambassador to Kazakhstan and discovered that Blair’s government was colluding in torture.

     

     

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    So from the British Establishment perspective, no longer represents or upholds their interests and to compound that felony is a ‘thorn in the side’ secessionist rabble-rouser.

     

     

    Gone rogue.

  11. SQUIRE DANAHER on 11TH MAY 2021 10:22 AM

     

    HOT SMOKED on 11TH MAY 2021 10:14 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

    He is a member of the British Establishment who has gone rogue.

     

     

     

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    He’s an entitled, self obsessed and attention seeking knob who was in contempt of court, but he does not enjoy robust health, physical or mental. A prison sentence is inappropriate.

     

     

    And lets not lose sight of the fact that this whole stramash is a result of the cult falling out among themselves.

  12. Judith gave a jokey interview with Grado and the bloke with the Ian annoying voice fella recently.

     

     

    Very funny lady, catholic schooling but hearts supporting, highlight of life included signing for the pope.

  13. I dunno who Craig Murray is, or what his crime was/is ?

     

     

    I read yesterday that The GREEN Party were wrongly denied TWO seats in Holyrood due to mix ups in the Ballot Papers with some other INDEPENDENT Green candidate, who some folk voted for in error.

     

    It was the Tories who won those TWO Seats by Default !

     

    I wonder what Douglas ” Red, Red Ross will make of it ?

  14. ERNIE LYNCH on 11TH MAY 2021 10:04 AM

     

     

    Craig Murray banged up for 8 months.

     

     

    No need for that.

     

     

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    Was he sent off against the huns?

  15. BIG JIMMY on 11TH MAY 2021 10:41 AM

     

     

     

    The Greens are claiming that they lost out on two seats because some voters were too stupid/ignorant to know which party they wanted to vote for.

     

     

    Mmm.

     

     

    The Greens have gamed the system for years by being an SNP subsidiary in all but name and have relied on SNP supporters voting for them on the list vote.

     

     

    The only one of them worth a candle was Andy Wightman, who left the party in disgust.

  16. Craig Murray fought for human rights and also supported Scottish Independence.

     

    He also wrote some books…One called The Catholic Orangeman…that maybe interesting ?

  17. ERNIE LYNCH on 11TH MAY 2021 10:46 AM

     

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    Oh I see…in much the SAME Way that Unionist Labour jump into Bed with the Unionist Tories and Vice Versa whenever it suits both their Parties…akin to the Lib Dems and their Coalition with the Tories a few years ago ?

  18. BIG JIMMY on 11TH MAY 2021 10:52 AM

     

     

     

    Or Alex Salmonds SNP government relying of the support of Annabelle Goldie’s Conservative & Unionist Party to keep them in power.

     

     

    Had you forgotten about that one?

  19. Apparently The Scot Gov is ASKING Sevco to advise their fans NOT to gather this week end ?

     

     

    IF True,,its wrong…The Scot Gov should be TELLING Sevco and their Hordes that they will be Breaking the LAW…Yet again…and that this time they will be subject to ARREST

     

    The Scot Gov SHOUL;D get their finger oot over this Law Breaking Mob.

     

    HH.

  20. No I hadnt forgotten…I never liked Salmond at any time…He was also Crap at tipping horses.

     

    ALL parties do it…NOT just The SNP and The Greens…but you already knew that didnt you ?

     

    Unionist Cameron and Clegg…NOW there was a mighty Duo …NOT.

  21. King Kenny signed my FAG Packet one night just off Sauchiehall Street…when I was pissed drunk…around 1974/75 ?

     

    He had just came oot of The Pictures ” the ABC” with his then Burd…Marina. She wasnt too happy at him stopping to sign the autograph.

     

    LOL

     

    HH.

  22. Big Jimmy @ 10.48

     

     

    Yes, and he sacrificed his career by doing so. He also reported on the Julian Assange extradition hearings, which the Establishment wanted to hush up. But he supports Scottish independence, so that makes him fair game for character assassination by supporters of British human rights abuses.

  23. 79CAPS on 11TH MAY 2021 11:10 AM

     

     

    ‘he supports Scottish independence, so that makes him fair game for character assassination by supporters of British human rights abuses.’

     

     

     

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    Could I suggest that his current predicament is a consequence of his criticisms of the SNP Scottish government and the prosecution of Alex Salmond rather than anything else.

  24. Ernie

     

    I decided not to reply to you as you are always demanding that people answer your questions but consistently refuse to answer questions put to you by others – however I’ll reply just this once.

     

    Yes, you are right about the cause of his “predicament” , but the character assassination came from you. You are a nasty person. But as you spend most of your life on CQN you must also be a very sad individual, so you deserve some sympathy.

  25. 67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS –I hope you are right.

     

    With regards to Benidorm, although it is only 50 kms down the road, I have not had a single night out there in 17 years. Denia is lively enough for me :)

  26. regarding Craig Murray is this a common practice of bloggers etc of being in contempt of court

  27. 79CAPS on 11TH MAY 2021 11:31 AM

     

     

    If he hadn’t fallen out with the cult he wouldn’t be facing eight months in prison.

     

     

    Think about that.

  28. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    But as you spend most of your life on CQN you must also be a very sad individual, so you deserve some sympathy.

     

     

    My wife says that every day to me.

  29. SHAUNAMURA on 11TH MAY 2021 11:48 AM

     

    ‘regarding Craig Murray is this a common practice of bloggers etc of being in contempt of court’

     

     

     

    Reporting or commenting on live court cases is fraught with danger. Very few people do it.

     

     

    The suspicion here is that he has been singled out for particular attention by COPFOS because his reporting was partisan (pro Salmond) whereas other main stream journalists, equally partisan (pro complainers) and who published similar identificatory evidence escaped scrutiny.

     

     

    Regarding this particular case I would be surprised if the identities of the complainers were not already widely known among their own circles of colleagues, acquaintances and families anyway, though that might not be of any great relevance.

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