Last year we attempted to quantify the money other SPL clubs were denied by Rangers improperly registering football players – on the assumption that being found guilty of improperly registering football players was actually worthy of punishment.
Below is an excerpt of the article and figures:
Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or [then]Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and elsewhere. It is patently clear that the game in Scotland is failing fans and clubs alike. It is time for fans of SPL clubs to unite and move beyond the busted grip of the SFA.
Only SPL fans, working together, can ensure each of clubs has a viable future.
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Sunday 1st
‘I am standing on the threshold of another trembling world. May God have mercy on my soul.
My heart is very sore because I know that I have broken my poor mother’s heart, and my home is struck with unbearable anxiety. But I have considered all the arguments and tried every means to avoid what has become the unavoidable: it has been forced upon me and my comrades by four-and-a-half years of stark inhumanity.
I am a political prisoner. I am a political prisoner because I am a casualty of a perennial war that is being fought between the oppressed Irish people and an alien, oppressive, unwanted regime that refuses to withdraw from our land.
I believe and stand by the God-given right of the Irish nation to sovereign independence, and the right of any Irishman or woman to assert this right in armed revolution. That is why I am incarcerated, naked and tortured.
Foremost in my tortured mind is the thought that there can never be peace in Ireland until the foreign, oppressive British presence is removed, leaving all the Irish people as a unit to control their own affairs and determine their own destinies as a sovereign people, free in mind and body, separate and distinct physically, culturally and economically.
I believe I am but another of those wretched Irishmen born of a risen generation with a deeply rooted and unquenchable desire for freedom. I am dying not just to attempt to end the barbarity of H-Block, or to gain the rightful recognition of a political prisoner, but primarily because what is lost in here is lost for the Republic and those wretched oppressed whom I am deeply proud to know as the ‘risen people’.
There is no sensation today, no novelty that October 27th brought. (The starting date of the original seven man hunger-strike) The usual Screws were not working. The slobbers and would-be despots no doubt will be back again tomorrow, bright and early.
I wrote some more notes to the girls in Armagh today. There is so much I would like to say about them, about their courage, determination and unquenchable spirit of resistance. They are to be what Countess Markievicz, Anne Devlin, Mary Ann McCracken, Marie MacSwiney, Betsy Gray, and those other Irish heroines are to us all. And, of course, I think of Ann Parker, Laura Crawford, Rosemary Bleakeley, and I’m ashamed to say I cannot remember all their sacred names.
Mass was solemn, the lads as ever brilliant. I ate the statutory weekly bit of fruit last night. As fate had it, it was an orange, and the final irony, it was bitter. The food is being left at the door. My portions, as expected, are quite larger than usual, or those which my cell-mate Malachy is getting.’
Bobby Sands
I would love the MSM to ask Turnbull Hutton for his thoughts on the carve up. They won’t do that of course.
They were looking for a cheap headline and maybe a disrepute charge for Neil. He handled it very well by not giving them a quote but he looked, rightly, furious. They’ll do their damnedest to talk that up and distract.
As for Mr Hutton……they know he would not miss them and HIS integrity is such that I don’t believe anyone would even think of challenging him.
Henrik cheers, if you are communicating with him tell him “outoftown” was asking after him.
Hail Hail Bruv
Aye, you think I forgot:)
Árd Macha
neil lennons press conf today has in one swoop got rid of any negative feelings i might have had towards a celtic reaction to the rangers findings.
yesterday i was feeling quite angry and dissalusioned about the whole afair.i felt that we had been stitched up and a statement from lawell was going to be needed for me to continue with scottish football.
however after watching lennons bullish words i must say i was hugely impressed at the courage and honesty of the man.considering what he has been through against the rangers fan base i believe his words today where amazing and very accurate..lennon does not hide from cowards and cheats,he faces them head on.as a man he is the equal of ANY that have walked through the parkhead gates….neil lennon take a bow
Awww i liked puma too
B-(
I must admit yesterday was a body blow for all fans wanting natural justice to prevail. However, I was more shocked at myself that I was even surprised by the outcome. (We all knew the fudge was coming).
However, we must keep in mind that Dead Rangers were found guilty of playing inelligible players for AT LEAST 11 years. (Improperly registered players is how the Commission dressed it up).
Anyway, I am slightly disappointed at some of the Celtic supporters talking about deserting the Club. I can understand their opinion because its seems as if basically there is no point, as even a ‘Guilty’ verdict is classed as a victory by the Press and the Sevconians etc. However, we all know these guys have no shame. So we shouldnt be surprised by that.
We all know the Football Association is corrupt and any opportunity to prevent the stripping of titles was always going to be taken. If we are disgruntled then email the Club and let them know your feelings and what you expect them to do. However, in the meantime we must continue to back the team! Nothing hurts them more than a successful Celtic…
Throughout history there have been miscarriages of justice throughout the world and there will continue to be people left feeling like there is no hope, even when the obvious verdict is staring everyone in the face. We are not the first and certainly wont be the last to experience this feeling of despair.
However, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Lets see what the options available to the Club/SPL Boards are before throwing in the towel…. Remember, they were found ‘Guilty’!! No matter how its dressed up, the SFA and Rangers (In Liquidation) are guilty of collusion and cheating.
I was brought up as Celtic fan and from a young age I always appreciated the rebel (no reference to the Irish struggle) within the Celtic supporters because regardless of how many times the support was told they were ‘Paranoid’ or had a ‘Chip on the shoulder’ they stood by their belief that the footballing authorities etc in Scotland were against us. Yesterday, we, The Celtic Support, were vindicated in having this belief!! Therefore, instead of deserting the Club we must now unite and show the SFA and the Sevconians that their cheating/collusion and hatred of our Club only makes us stronger!
Don’t let them exceed in their decades long objective of causing division within the Celtic support and destroying the Club. Remember, they would love nothing better than if we were to just go away quietly and no longer exist.
Lets show them by turning up to back the team that we will never be defeated by them and that their hatred of all things Celtic only makes us stronger.
As the old saying goes, Our Day Will Come!
jimmci
17:49 on
1 March, 2013
I would love the MSM to ask Turnbull Hutton for his thoughts on the carve up.
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He is always willing to engage in conversation.
I said to him
“Just read the Nimmo Smith report.
Ten years of cheating clubs and HMRC is subject to a nominal fine on a dead club.”
And he said,
“Says it all really……I give up!”
Celtic as anticipated have formally kept good council despite the expected result of yesterday and I would assume that this will continue at least until after, private conversations have taken place with most, if not all of the other SPL chairmen and directors.
The biggest scandal in world football was cemented when Sevco 5088 were fraudulently given a licence, to reform in Division Three, and many CQN posters and Celtic fans elsewhere recorded that event as such.
LNS and his decision was merely a reaffirmation that they would get away freely, and whilst Celtic have no plans or perhaps even a desire to somehow leave Scotland behind then they must be very guarded and guided in how we can proceed.
Meantime they are still, and always will be Sevco.
A vote of no confidence in the current SFA set up ….
Celtic Football Club Statement
By: Newsroom Staff on 01 Mar, 2013 17:45
Following yesterday´s SPL Commission decision, we have been inundated with requests for the Club to make its position clear:
Celtic FC has today made the following statement:
We note yesterday´s decision that Rangers FC has been found guilty of contravening the SPL rules on disclosure of payments over 11 years between 2000-2011. The scale of this amounts to a deliberate non-disclosure of £47 million in payments to players and staff. We also note the penalty of £250,000 which has been imposed.
Like many within Scottish football, including supporters and other observers, we are surprised by the parallel conclusion that no competitive advantage was gained from these arrangements.
However, the implications of this verdict are for the Scottish football authorities to address since the rules breached were specifically intended to defend “sporting integrity”.
Throughout this matter, Celtic has refrained from comment on the affairs of Rangers FC while the various tribunals and commissions went about their work.
We will continue to concentrate on our own affairs, and assure our supporters that at all times we will operate within both the rules of our governing bodies and the law of the land.
Our Club is in a great place at the moment and we are enjoying a fantastic season, maintaining our position at the top of Scottish football and enjoying huge success and profile across European football.
We ask our fans to unite with us once again as we look ahead to the rest of the season, to the Scottish Cup on Saturday, to the UEFA Champions League next week and to an exciting future with a young squad of high quality players and a talented manager in Neil Lennon.
Our fans have been magnificent this season, home and away, and as we head towards the end of the season, now, more than ever, we need our fans to be with us and to back the team and the Club. We sincerely thank our fans for their continued support.
STV News lads with an “angry Lennon ” headline story , whilst carefully selecting the shots and comments.
I saw the interview on SSN , what are Traynors monkeys at STV trying to do? Sorry I already know…..bitter litttle men.
Poor statement from CFC ….it said nothing
So .. We will keep within rules ….when the Huns stray and the authorities let them …. We will expect the same authorities to curtail them ….
We will concentrate on ourselves
And youse fans are great
Great …thanks !!!
Just seen Lennys press conference, controlled, deliberate, truthful, accurate.
Welcomed.
NFL just stated very clearly what the Celtic Support and dare I say it others have been thinking, he did it very well indeed. It’s time for others in similar positions with the same media opportunities to tell it how it is.
The Clubs lawyers should be onto STV warning them about their dangerous manipulation of NFL’s interview.
Jmccormick
Time to start banning all the journos who deliberately run misleading content against us
These idiots have no regard for the danger that their sensationalist nonsense causes ….
Come on Celtic stand up for us and our manager
Not sure I agree with the rationale for making any statement, but I think it reads well.
Árd Macha
The fight for justice goes on.
Just dropped in to say….
jmccormick
18:09 on 1 March, 2013
STV News lads with an “angry Lennon ” headline story , whilst carefully selecting the shots and comments.
I saw the interview on SSN , what are Traynors monkeys at STV trying to do? Sorry I already know…..bitter litttle men.
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Why don’t the Celtic bored / board or, whoever made the
Celtic View of the 70’s / 80’s type of statement….grow a pair
and – ban STV / Sevco ?
Only saying….
HH
STV article on how well the secteroan law is working-cue pictures of polis at CP
BSR
By whom ?
Bada bing
Despite more arrests at sevco ….
PF
Celtic and whoever decides to join us.
….PFayr
Raman Bawbag still sensationalising the Lennon interview , what a sad wee man. I always think banning journalists is a bad idea, but have no issue with keepog people like him, Traynor etc.. out of our house.
!!Bada Bing!!
18:14 on 1 March, 2013
STV article on how well the secteroan law is working-cue pictures of polis at CP
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Exactly M8
Celtic should ban them. NOW!!! imo
HH
Just watched lennys press conference an absolute legend and a credit to the club
GBNL
bournesouprecipe
Sevco
Sevco
Who the F**k are Sevco?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHYOXyy1ToI
Hate will engender their primitive beliefs that are passed down in very early childhood.
Walter Nimmo Smith
Grrrrrrrr – I feckin hate this country
Off oot
BSR
Depends who you mean by celtic ….
Our board don’t seem to be doing much …apart from issuing statements stating the obvious
Felt compelled to watch STV sportslot tonight. Never again.
Unbelieveable that they can be quite so blatant.
Idiot Badjawi or whatever he is called twisted the narrative amazingly. Also seems that unlike Swally, Neil does not have a Christian or first name.
What a pathetic channel.
Billy “I just got paid the normal way through PAYE” Dodds having a pop at Lenny for commenting on RFC – even though he said he was keeping his views to himself!
pfayr
I dont think Celtic could have said anything different. Although I agree with you in your disappointment of the statement!
I dont really know what would have been acceptable, but, Neil’s response today was spot on. short and to the point!
STV trying to get Lenny into trouble with the huns,by portraying him as being angry, and sarcastic!
Plus ca change!
HH
The cub reporters on STV are all tenty trousered about the “stars going on the jerseys next season”
This triumphalism will carry over until the glorious day when they wrap up their 3rd division title. That`s right 3rd division, glory days at IPOX right enough.
They`ve just signed a kit deal with a poor relation of kit suppliers and a sponsorship deal with a brand favoured by jakies and is almost impossible to find on sale in any decent outlet. Enjoy your day , muppets.
I take it after scouring the globe for a sponsor the C&C was the only show in town for Sevco?
Same with the kit manufacturer, That bam from Sports Direct getting Puma on board.
Zombies in for a world of pain again next season. lol!
the bear arses are going to go mental with NFL & Celtic ,
well done to both
Jonny the Tim
We’d have been better saying nothing …or restricting our statement to our surprise at what the tribunal construed or rather failed to construe as sporting advantage
Re.. Celtic Official statement.
Touchpaper lit.
Nice one for now.
Now THAT is what you call a statement!